Hi Guys,
I know that a lot of people hate verizon's skype. I like it because it has the BT working and is using a phone not data.
Minutes are not considered toward monthly cap and it is very reliable as far as a connection goes .
Unfortunately it says not supported by this device. Use the other.
The normal skype app is not that good, resource consuming BT does not work, and it eat up a lot of data.
Esp bad when moving or insinde some buildings where signal is poorer.
My questions is if it could be modded to work on note 2.
On my GN works fine.
Many thanks
Abe
abe_cedar said:
Hi Guys,
I know that a lot of people hate verizon's skype. I like it because it has the BT working and is using a phone not data.
Minutes are not considered toward monthly cap and it is very reliable as far as a connection goes .
Unfortunately it says not supported by this device. Use the other.
The normal skype app is not that good, resource consuming BT does not work, and it eat up a lot of data.
Esp bad when moving or insinde some buildings where signal is poorer.
My questions is if it could be modded to work on note 2.
On my GN works fine.
Many thanks
Abe
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Im sure if u found an older version of skype mobile it will i had to do that with my droid 4
will try
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Im sure if u found an older version of skype mobile it will i had to do that with my droid 4
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It could also b that vzw does not support it in jb. I cant find the app with my nexus on the market but installed and it worked on a custom rom.
I am hoping once custom rom will b released I can try.
I have an OG droid. I can extract the app from there.
I did install several apps 1.6.0.0 and the latest. None of them work.
One tells me that this app works only on verizon the others that there is a better version of skype.
My gripe is with the main skype app. Poor. Heavy on resources, a lot of data, battery, cpu, does not have BT working.
I cannot use when moving it sounds horrible and I am in a very good LTE area. That app works fine while still in a spot with good LTE connection or WiFi.
I love the original skype because is a simple verizon "phone call". No, it does not uses minutes since is a in network call, and the BT works. It always did. Also there is not data used almost at all
I use skype a lot with people abroad and is as good as any phone call but free and I can get the reliability of VZW network.
Now I have my GN with me and the Note 2 as well. Not a pleasant solution
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Abe
Wow, I totally forgot about this.
Yeah, that would be cool as hell to use minutes and bluetooth.
Wonder if there are any existing XDA modded versions.
Some google searching is turning up repeated mentions of such a mod .apk.
So infuriating that newest skype doesn't support bluetooth.
GRRR
Some people point to mono audio app in market as a way to force routing audio to bluetooth. This may be a partial solution fwiw.
I have RAZR Maxx HD and when I was on ICS there was a way to do it... when I tried to send an IM using Skype, it was automatically loading "Verizon's version" of Skype and then I could call anybody and anyone could call me using verizon's cellular network (not data)... not anymore... JB plugged the hole and many other. Courtesy of Verizon wireless, where customer comes last and primary goal is to milk us and generate hefty profits and bonuses... darn it.
JB vs ICS
I might be JB vs ICS. I have a Gnexus ( toro) with custom JB on it and it works fine.
I am hoping that some aosp rom would make this app work again.
I have tried in a store all the motorola and the S3 not of them would run this light Skype.
I think it has to do with the model number.
Ok. I found a way to do it. Uninstall new Skype and install "Verizon's" skype.
Next click on People and choose IM and person's nick you wanna call (it has to be assigned as skype contact) it will take you to "Verizon" skype and no need to use data.
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A site I work at has no cell coverage, but does have wifi (no internet, just on-site wifi). I'd like to get a couple "portable data terminals", and while there are some very nice commercial/industrial solutions, they're ~$1-2k/pop. Looking at specs, my cheapest option is a cell phone running Gingerbread (native VOIP) and the basic mail/IM apps.
Would one of the LG Optimus S/T/V/etc phones (that I can get, non-contract, for ~$100/pop) be a good fit?
My criteria are:
1. Decent wifi support
2. At least one Gingerbread-based ROM with no major known issues
3. Battery life of (at an absolute minumum) 12 hours with moderate (VOIP + email + IM) use (please note, that's with wifi on but GPS and 1/2/3G radios off), and preferably more like 16 hours.
4. Aftermarket parts (like screen protectors and cases)
Get Opt T. Comes with Tmo's Wifi Calling. Then just flash a custom 2.3 ROM with fserves goldenleaf kernel for battery life.
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Get Opt T. Comes with Tmo's Wifi Calling. Then just flash a custom 2.3 ROM with fserves goldenleaf kernel for battery life.
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I don't think there's WiFi calling on p500 ROMs so that might be a problem.
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Your best bet, go with GingerLOL, it has the best battery life I have heard from any user who is using official gingerbread, our phones never came with the official gingerbread, atleast not that I know about, I'm in the US, figured all OpT devices that aren't rooted are still on froyo....as far as price range, I'm not sure but you might be able to grab em off eBay for alittle under a hundred bucks
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There is an unofficial port of gingerbread that has Wi-Fi calling...I can't remember the name of it but I think it's RevOpt...just go through the stickies in android development of our forum and you'll see a post by ciaox, he does a good job on of keeping up with all rom versions and updates
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901247
This link will take you to ciaox one in all Opt page, great use of information...each rom is separate by version
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There is an unofficial port of gingerbread that has Wi-Fi calling...I can't remember the name of it but I think it's RevOpt...just go through the stickies in android development of our forum and you'll see a post by ciaox, he does a good job on of keeping up with all rom versions and updates
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Isn't that froyo based?
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A site I work at has no cell coverage, but does have wifi (no internet, just on-site wifi). I'd like to get a couple "portable data terminals", and while there are some very nice commercial/industrial solutions, they're ~$1-2k/pop. Looking at specs, my cheapest option is a cell phone running Gingerbread (native VOIP) and the basic mail/IM apps.
Would one of the LG Optimus S/T/V/etc phones (that I can get, non-contract, for ~$100/pop) be a good fit?
My criteria are:
1. Decent wifi support
2. At least one Gingerbread-based ROM with no major known issues
3. Battery life of (at an absolute minumum) 12 hours with moderate (VOIP + email + IM) use (please note, that's with wifi on but GPS and 1/2/3G radios off), and preferably more like 16 hours.
4. Aftermarket parts (like screen protectors and cases)
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Judging by the phones you've listed you're in the U.S. The HTC Wildfire S is the cheapest GB Android with native WiFi calling.
1. Any T-Mobile Android includes native WiFi Calling via Kineto and works really well.
2. Gingerbread with WiFi calling on the Optimus T is a no go. Froyo only.
3. Really depends, "moderate" isn't descriptive enough.
4. Opt T has a plastic screen, screen protector is a must.
Also, consider Wifi calling via GrooveIP which uses Google Voice and is FREE. Call quality isn't top notch and receiving calls via WiFi doesn't work well. Upside, it'll work on any Android and with all carriers.
Cheapest option. A SOHO ATA with a standard cordless phone. I love my OBi100
For battery life i suggest getting an extended battery pack. Using your phone as a "data terminal" and wanting to have 12 hours is near impossible
Yes, I am US-based. I know the TMobile UMA (wifi-calling) system, it's pretty cool (works great in basements etc). Unfortunately, won't work in this case due to lack of Internet access. VOIP calling would be via a SIP server on the local network.
I'm expecting "moderate usage" to be a couple minutes of calling a day and some IM/email (again, talking to servers on the local network), it's probably "light-to-nonexistant usage" relative to the modern teenager. Goal is to replace/supplement existing walkie-talkies, which get flaky at longer ranges or when more than one person is trying to talk at the same time. (If you're wondering why I think wifi will work better... because we already use the wifi for other stuff in most of the places we send people.)
Reverend_Dave said:
Yes, I am US-based. I know the TMobile UMA (wifi-calling) system, it's pretty cool (works great in basements etc). Unfortunately, won't work in this case due to lack of Internet access. VOIP calling would be via a SIP server on the local network.
I'm expecting "moderate usage" to be a couple minutes of calling a day and some IM/email (again, talking to servers on the local network), it's probably "light-to-nonexistant usage" relative to the modern teenager. Goal is to replace/supplement existing walkie-talkies, which get flaky at longer ranges or when more than one person is trying to talk at the same time. (If you're wondering why I think wifi will work better... because we already use the wifi for other stuff in most of the places we send people.)
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I understand now. In that case any phone would work. However, Gingerbread is only available via an unofficial port. I'm currently using miks unofficial port of CM7 6.5.8 (Gingerbread) on my Optimus T and it's stable and bug free for daily use IMO.
The native SIP app in Android is very immature. SIPDroid is the best option available IMO. Battery life should meet your requirements, a stun server will help with battery life. My opinion of SIP on Android as a whole isn't good though. I've used it with pbxes and voip.ms. I had audio delay issues but your local setup may help reduce the affect.
I suggest you buy a couple and see how it goes. There's a 30 day return policy so you have nothing to loose (except time).
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The native SIP app in Android is very immature. SIPDroid is the best option available IMO. Battery life should meet your requirements, a stun server will help with battery life. My opinion of SIP on Android as a whole isn't good though. I've used it with pbxes and voip.ms. I had audio delay issues but your local setup may help reduce the affect.
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How would a STUN server help with battery life? If it does, it's easy to set up, but phones would all be living in the same IP space (with the SIP box), so NAT traversal isn't an issue.
I've looked at bits of the Android source associated with the SIP stack (and the API for accessing it), and yeah, it doesn't inspire awe. However, given that LTE is native(ish...) IP, and voice-over-LTE is SIP (admittedly, with a lot of extensions from the 3GPP), I'm expecting Android SIP support is going to get better.
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How would a STUN server help with battery life? If it does, it's easy to set up, but phones would all be living in the same IP space (with the SIP box), so NAT traversal isn't an issue.
I've looked at bits of the Android source associated with the SIP stack (and the API for accessing it), and yeah, it doesn't inspire awe. However, given that LTE is native(ish...) IP, and voice-over-LTE is SIP (admittedly, with a lot of extensions from the 3GPP), I'm expecting Android SIP support is going to get better.
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As a user I remember battery life was better when I connected to a STUN server. I've only used SIP on Android connecting via the internet, you're right it's useless in your scenario.
Audio latency was my biggest gripe and may not have been entirely Androids fault. I think your situation is about as ideal as it gets. Lack of opposing side (internet) and your ability to control timeouts and packet size may be the answer. If you do decide to try it, please let me/us know how it works out.
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Audio latency was my biggest gripe and may not have been entirely Androids fault. I think your situation is about as ideal as it gets. Lack of opposing side (internet) and your ability to control timeouts and packet size may be the answer. If you do decide to try it, please let me/us know how it works out.
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Most of my (expected) use is to replace what goes over the walkie-talkies, stuff like "come to the office" or "Bob, go to the back gate", which tends to be short and not terribly latency sensitive. I'll probably try it, but it won't go live for a couple months.
There's a nifty spec for push-to-talk-over-cellular, which is actually a 3GPP-written SIP extension, which is way, way, way beyond anything the SIP stack in Android is capable of dealing with at this point. Oh, well...
I used to have a nokia phone: N900, and a lower end Android phone: LG optimus V. The Nokia has superb VOIP calling quality with their building client, I can't tell the difference at all when on WiFi network. LG is a bit worse, but sipdroid were good enough for non-serious conversation. GrooveIP/3CXphone also works.
However, with droid X2, it is such a disappointment. I cannot hear the other party at all with SipDroid, nor can they hear me, even I only allow GSM codec. With GrooveIP, it is ok for me to hear, but the other party always have issues. 3CXphone does not even work with my local server (I have verified the setting many times on my Optimus). I am always using it on wifi network. Meanwhile my desktop client has no issue at all.
I am still running the stock rom since I heard Eclipse has a pretty bad battery life. Also, I kind of like the blur interface. Regardless, I googled a little bit, one post complained the same issue.
Just want to check whether you guys have the same issue? Any know solution? Does customized rom help at all?
Thx
You could try the 2.3.6 "nandroid port" it is totally non-verizon if they might be messing your
Sop/voip. It's in the DEV section.
I use grooveIP and cm7 was the best quality I had. You have to kill everything that is using data and hope it doesn't Start back up again.
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I was just wondering if there is a tmo wifi calling app for any of the JB roms that are currently available for our Vibrant...
I've been through a lot of threads and haven't seen any mention of it. Haven't yet flashed JB yet (should be tomorrow though!).
Thanks.
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There are several VOIP apps on the market, namely Google Voice, which allows free calling irrc. I am not aware of any VOIP apps by TMo though.
Google voice is only for the States. Use talkatone, ChatON, Kakaotalk, or just search on Google play store. Sorry can't give links, I'm on my phone so just search it. Not too hard to find. Good luck!
No, no, no. T-Mobile users can use the T-Mobile WiFi Calling App. Its been made to work on Froyo, GB, and ICS.
In areas where you have little to no cell signal, you can connect to WiFi, and this little app allows you to send and receive calls and texts just as if you had perfect cell signal.
My original question, was inquiring as to whether or not anyone had tinkered with it and made it compatible with any of the current JB builds.
JB is still new, so it comes as no surprise that it hasn't been done yet.
No big deal. Reason I originally posted that, was because if one ROM had it working over another, then I would have tried that ROM first as I said no biggie.
anyone find anything? my cell signal at my house is terrible, but I'm loving Slim JB
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anyone find anything? my cell signal at my house is terrible, but I'm loving Slim JB
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AFAIK, T-Mobile wifi calling was made to work on froyo and GB, but never on ICS, several devs tried it, but weren't able to make it work. I doubt there'll ever be T-Mobile wifi calling for the Vibrant on JB.
Have you tried bobsled app?
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ascallop said:
AFAIK, T-Mobile wifi calling was made to work on froyo and GB, but never on ICS, several devs tried it, but weren't able to make it work. I doubt there'll ever be T-Mobile wifi calling for the Vibrant on JB.
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Look for a jelly bean version and stumbled across this posting. For the t-mobile G2 there is an ICS version which works.
We just bought a Galaxy S2 from t-mobile, it came preinstalled with the new ICS update on it already (brand new device). The device has Wifi calling built in. It's not a separate app though, its built into the device settings, enabled and disabled from there. Looking for it on my Vibrant though :s
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We just bought a Galaxy S2 from t-mobile, it came preinstalled with the new ICS update on it already (brand new device). The device has Wifi calling built in. It's not a separate app though, its built into the device settings, enabled and disabled from there. Looking for it on my Vibrant though :s
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You can get it for lots of Froyo, GB, and even some ICS roms (I think), but no JB yet.
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Have you tried bobsled app?
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I'm using Bobsled app on my Defy with Android 4.1.2 without problem, but I'm pretty sure it can be configured with another "standard" SIP client like CSIP or 3CX (just don't know how to do it...)
I'd tried to see what's the SIP credentials on my own account using wireshark in the middle, but only have on clear that the SIP gateway is: wvp.vivox.com:5062
If anyone could help us on the right direction, should be nice...
Guys
I need you help please. The much maligned skype mobile is one of my fav apps. It does not work. I wonder if it is a device ( specific Note 2 ) or is a ROM issue, AOSP vs official.
Can someone try to install it and see if they get same error? See attachment. I have tried on beans version 2 ( I am running it) , no avail. I have also tried the app on a stock S3. My question is can you get to the log in screen. The app needs verizon data connection won't work on WIFI or other networks.
Much appreciated,
Abe
Works for me. Unlocked and rooted in stock. Also worked for me with beans 1
Sent from my big ass Note 2
different app
my_handle said:
Works for me. Unlocked and rooted in stock. Also worked for me with beans 1
Sent from my big ass Note 2
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This is the wrong skype.
I am talking about the skype mobile on Verizon.
The one you are talking about works indeed. But lets say it has it limitations.
Can you please try this one. See attached.
Thanks for you help.
Abe
abe_cedar said:
This is the wrong skype.
I am talking about the skype mobile on Verizon.
The one you are talking about works indeed. But lets say it has it limitations.
Can you please try this one. See attached.
Thanks for you help.
Abe
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Sorry, I use the video on the main one and that's only time I use Skype. The one you posted didn't work for me. Same error
thanks!
my_handle said:
Sorry, I use the video on the main one and that's only time I use Skype. The one you posted didn't work for me. Same error
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You are right about the video. The adv of the other one is that it works with Bluetooth and it uses a Verizon phone number.
Very useful on the go. I can get the thing to work without a hitch. The other skype not so much. Too bloated. Nice if I use it with video on wifi or
somewhere where the LTE is good. On top of that the video app uses 10Meg/min. A lot.
Thanks for trying.
Abe
Why don't you want to use the one from the play store.?
why
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Why don't you want to use the one from the play store.?
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This one is from their store too. It used to work. Works fine on my nexus ( 4.1.2 Slim Bean)
Like I've said this one I highly recommend it when on the go why:
Does not uses data- but in network verizon minutes ( zero) - due to this calls rarely drops
Has Bluetooth support.- cannot get it (BT) to work on the other on any of my 5 android devices.
I use the other app with great pains when I am in my car for example. For voice only the BW requirement for skype is to high. When moving this leads to chipmunk sound and breaking voice. I am in a very good LTE area but skype it is what it is.
Skype is my fav app because it bundles ppl from desktop to mobile platforms and that everywhere in the world and I can do that while on the go.
I am at times in metal buildings where the signal is poor. The verizon skype always works the other never.
Thanks,
Abe
Hey, isn't that weird? I cannot find any 3G Video Calling option in my Galaxy S2 i9100, although 3G connection is available in my area. Doesn't galaxy s2 support video calling?
It does on stock, yes.
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It does on stock, yes.
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Do you want to say that the STOCK ROM has got video call? I am not using stock, I am using Cyanogenmod. When I asked them about video calling, they said that neither the ROM nor the ANDROID has to to anything with video calling, SAMSUNG must put video calling support for their device.
That's what I just said. If the network you're using supports it & your 'plan' with your carrier allows it, you should be able to video call with stock. The phone has the necessary hardware which allows it, and the firmware also allows it.
Bottom line, if you want stuff 'to just work', you don't run AOSP, you run Touchjizz.
People can whinge all they want about sources/whatever but the bottom line is Samsung has no obligation whatsoever to release proprietary code, they're a business, not a charity. For a lot of stuff to work on AOSP, release of said code would be required. So the AOSP 'devs' whip the Android fanboys into a frenzy demanding Samsung release code that would be against their commercial interests to do so.
Also, just because you have '3G connection is available in my area', as I said above, your carrier needs to support it, and the plan you're on with your carrier has to allow it. And it is somewhat expensive to use, which is why alternatives which use your data allowance are more popular.
Edit - I'm not 100% sure if this is the case, but some stock roms for some carriers might not have the capability enabled, because those carriers may not have supported video calling at the time those roms were released (but they might now; we are talking about 2+ yrs ago for ICS & 18 mths ago for JB stock roms)
So, you want to say that, all the people around the world who are using AOSP roms (e.g. Cyanogenmod, AOKP, Carbon) would never be able to make a 3g video call? That's really crazy if that's true.
@rkoby13 @Spaulding89 @eskriminal @fusionjack
*shrugs*
You asked a question, I gave you an answer. I don't really care whether people using AOSP can/can't do something.
Next post you make to this thread you'll be having a conversation with yourself, I'm done here.
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So, you want to say that, all the people around the world who are using AOSP roms (e.g. Cyanogenmod, AOKP, Carbon) would never be able to make a 3g video call? That's really crazy if that's true.
@rkoby13 @Spaulding89 @eskriminal @fusionjack
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I never saw the use for 3g video call. Use viber/skype/similar if you're using AOSP. Can't say I've ever felt the need to make a 3g video call, so I don't see why it's crazy. If it's not a feature you need, it doesn't matter if the ROM doesn't support it.
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I never saw the use for 3g video call. Use viber/skype/similar if you're using AOSP. Can't say I've ever felt the need to make a 3g video call, so I don't see why it's crazy. If it's not a feature you need, it doesn't matter if the ROM doesn't support it.
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Well, that's true. 3G Video calling is not that important. But say what, 3G is completely new in our country, I just wanted to test it.
So bottom line is, AOSP roms doesn't have 3g Video Call?