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I know this may have been discussed, but I went to look at the samsung nexus and samsung galaxy sII and wow do theses phone blow the 3d away. I was really surprised. The 3d is not even in the same ball park. I like my 3d but the 2 just make it feel so cheap. The screen doesnt even compair to either 2. The cameras are so much better than the 3d. If anyone says different they are on crack. Come a few more weeks i'll be able to upgrade and once sprint gets the samsung nexus I will defiantly make the switch. I have always had htc phones but its time to move on to bigger and better things.
They may seem nice at first but I've had nothing but bad experiences with samsung phones. I'm just one person though...I'm gonna stick with htc. Just my 2 cents.
We're comin from a pure power source.
it's just you.
to each his own though. my honest opinion of the s2 was that it felt cheap like a toy and had no "robust" feel to it. the earpiece speaker/call quality was **** compared to my 3D, the screen was low resolution, it had all kinds of bugs, and the OS looked like something from a nintendo game.
i will reluctantly be buying a nexus as well, reluctantly. and it will just be to try it out. i am skeptical simply because it is a samsung.
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I know this may have been discussed, but I went to look at the samsung nexus and samsung galaxy sII and wow do theses phone blow the 3d away. I was really surprised. The 3d is not even in the same ball park. I like my 3d but the 2 just make it feel so cheap. The screen doesnt even compair to either 2. The cameras are so much better than the 3d. If anyone says different they are on crack. Come a few more weeks i'll be able to upgrade and once sprint gets the samsung nexus I will defiantly make the switch. I have always had htc phones but its time to move on to bigger and better things.
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I'm gonna help you out and predict most people's responses:
Troll, have a good life, great story bro, etc.
You might consider giving a better argument. For instance, my gf's galaxy nexus seems to have a brighter and sharper screen. It's also a light phone. The camera appears to instantly take the shots. In fact I took a photo with it of a moving car and the car was barely blurred.
Yeah im in no way bashing Htc I was just really surprised. I know getting updates from samsung is like pulling teeth thats why im going with the nexus straight google.
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I'm gonna help you out and predict most people's responses:
Troll, have a good life, great story bro, etc.
You might consider giving a better argument. For instance, my gf's galaxy nexus seems to have a brighter and sharper screen. It's also a light phone. The camera appears to instantly take the shots. In fact I took a photo with it of a moving car and the car was barely blurred.
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True ... The argument just go see for yourself and compair. Like I said i like my 3d, but these just seem to be in a different class.
I hated how the EVO 3D felt in contrast to my Exhibit II 4G. Something about the overall plasticness that makes it feel lighter and more better.
Not to mention, the plastic body helps absorb shock much better than the dense material HTC uses. I'm glad I got rid of my EVO with its crappy radio.
My 2¢
I've had them all.
Motorola - best antenna
Samsung - lightest
HTC - most development
Or you could just go buy an iphone. Studies have shown, if you own an iPhone you're more likely to have sex
Go for it and enjoy! I'm happy with my 3D and the better dev community here.
Yes it is in the same ball park! I had the SGS2 for about 5 months and yes it was very good and I loved the super amoled plus screen, the things i don't like about it is that if feels cheap in the hand and the lack of Led Notifs (yes you can get bln but that doesn't cut it) Also Touchwiz sucks. From personal experience I would say the SGS2 devs are superb and it does have a great community, I have not looked around the 3D's forum to compare the two, even if it did have a bad community I don't mind as I got this phone at a great price and ill hopefully have it until it's life is over (which I hope isn't soon)
If you want a phone that feels like you could break it apart with you hands by all means go for the Sgs2. The galaxy nexus on the other hand I have to agree that it does look like it's in another league.
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Go for it and enjoy! I'm happy with my 3D and the better dev community here.
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THIS!
Dev support here is huge, and never liked Samsung aside from their screens to an extent...
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I liked using my Evo 3D. I'm using a Nexus S 4G right now (got a really good deal), and I just love the screen. The amoled screen, to me, looks much better than the TFT displays HTC uses. The 3D screen is light years ahead of the Evo 4G screen with it's pink hues when displaying at white background.
I will also say the camera sensors in the samsung devices are of better quality than what HTC uses. Again, this is in my experience, and I'm also not a professional photographer.
To say the 3D is not in the same ballpark as the SGSII, or Galaxy Nexus really isn't fair. At the time of release, the 3D was almost on top of the world. Shortly thereafter, the GSII came out, with its exynos processor, which has better performance than the Snapdragon used in the HTC devices.
Also, the Galaxy Nexus is a newer phone, with a larger screen, higher resolution, plus it's running the latest version of Android. This phone will eventually become "crappy" as the quad core devices come out, or future versions of android roll out that make this phone "sluggish". No phone stays on top for very long. The Nexus One, and Evo 4G are the only phones that have largely kept their halo status, despite their age.
in my opinion from first glance its easy to choose the gs2 or galaxy nexus over the e3d. but after having played with all 3 and knowing ppl with the others and there expierence im gonna go ahead and stick with htc..
screen wise although i love how awesome the super amoleds look the low resolution on the gs2 with such a big screen is a super turn off for me. the galaxy nexus on the other hand is just pure awesomeness screen wise. but the e3d's size and resolution are way more important than how vibrant it is. and this one might just be me but i find the slcd color reproduction to be way more accurate and not excessively vibrant as oppsed to samoled but the blacks suck..
as for the processor i still cant figure out why everyone goes crazy over the exynos its an awesome processor but as is the msm8660 in the e3d neither chip beats the other outright both having strong and weak points. and if uve played with a sense 3.5 or ics rom u know how awesome this phone will be when we do eventually get our update. right now thou its still great sense 3.0 isnt as fluid as 3.5 or above but its fast and runs apps amazingly. i cant stand touchwiz but thats not important because some ppl do. only stock android or sense for me
camera ill give that one to samsung they win big time haha. but the e3d camera still gets the job done and with the right settings i still manage to get some great shots.
i want to get the nexus ive been wanting one forever but the only thing stopping me is the lack of a microsd which isnt to crazy because id still have the same amount of memory i do now but there is no room for expansion which sucks. and i might actually miss sense to much. the widgets mainly but for me sense makes android so easy to get around.
and the build quality of sammy phones is just terrible. such great hardware put into this cheap plastic shell feels like a toy. i love my evo and my e3d ive dropped em several times and have no dents or scratches on my screens and ive never used a case the worse ive gotten is wear marks from using them for so long...
dont overlook the e3d it stands up really well against those two. they all got their perks that make em great just pick which is right for you.
I'm not sure why everyone gets hung up on the "poor build quality" of the samsung devices. They are made of plastic, and are light weight. Other than that, they are built very solidly. They do have glossy plastic, which shows scratches much easier than on matte plastic. The Evo 3D is entirely encased in a plastic wrapper, but it's heavy. The weight is the only difference in "build quailty".
HTC has had issues with light leakage around their screens. Dust getting between the digitizer and the LCD. I've heard of samsung phones getting blown speakers, lower signal quality (both wifi and 3G/4G), and lack of updates, but beyond that, their devices are fairly solid. HTC has recently been putting out better quality devices, so they have learned from past mistakes.
I'm just curious to see if there are truly a higher percentage of breakage with samsung phones, vs HTC phones.
Please note: I'm not hating on HTC phones, as every smartphone I've ever owned, with the exception of the Nexus S 4G, have been made by HTC. I just don't hear about samsung phones breaking all the time.
The nexus just came out, it should be "better"
The gs2 is good too but they have made like 10 skus of one device and mismatched different hardware on each one which blows for the end user
big screen with no HD, this one has this chip, 4g here not 4g there.... pure milk age of there first widely popular phone
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It's you. One word. Touchwiz.. At least we have the option of either sense, aosp, or miui.
I love my 3D. My next phone will be the next HTC Lte phone in sprints lineup.
Sprint EVO 3D.
HW version: 002
TWRP v1.1.1
Hboot 1.4.1000
Radio: 1.06.00.1216
for me its the glossy plastic that feels cheap. the lightweight is nice but i prefer a lil weight like the e3d gives u a better grip on it in my opinion. my cousin had the vibrant and any drop wouldnt break the phone but would eat chunks of that plastic were with the plastic htc uses it doesnt dent so easily worst u get is a nice scratch. the galaxy nexus seems interesting because it looks and feels much higher quality imo but i havent heard much if it actually is.
now for defects i havent experienced any and this is my 3rd htc android phone (hero, evo, evo3d) now im probably just lucky as both my evos were launch day and my hero i bought after at&t decided to rape me with some bull**** bill lol. i know there have been defects and although they r bad i much rather have light leakage or dust as opposed to weak signal and no gps.. but thats what warranties are for. there will always be a bad apple in a bunch as long as i can get it replaced for free i wont complain about it
i dont hate samsung btw. there phones are nice ive been considering getting one but for now im liking what htc has been doing and unless samsung changes it up its probably gonna stick that way because from the rumors of sense 4.0 i think im going to fall in love all over again..
only gripe i have with htc that i think they should consider is jumping on the samoled bandwagon as long as they keep the high resolution it would make them the top choice haha
Having had the Sprint version of the SGSII for a few months, I can definitely say this phone is in the same ballpark. My main issue with the SGSII (again, I'm only referring to the Epic Touch 4g here, I have no experience with the other versions) was the build quality, followed by the array of annoying bugs.
The build quality was particularly bad, the plastic felt very cheap and was scuffed extremely easily. The back of the phone is made from some of the thinnest and flimsiest plastic ever, it would come off so easily. The redeeming factor here was the screen, it was fantastic and easily one of the best screens on the market right here. The resolution was a little low but definitely not bad.
Moving on to the bugs...
The first bug that became apparent to me (and practically everyone else) was the random loss of service that would occur. It became very annoying when your phone would randomly drop out of service and stay like that until you clear the RAM or reboot the phone. Many people couldn't even use the phone for a business phone because they had to remain in contact with people, and having to check constantly for LoS was a HUGE annoyance. Next is the GPS, utterly terrible, there are no other words to describe it, it would take up to 20 minutes at times just to get a lock. I remember on one occasion a few days after buying the phone, I was planning on going to a concert and using it to navigate (Between the Buried and Me/Tesseract/Animals as Leaders ) but on the way back I could not receive a lock on the satellites and by the grace of god I somehow managed to make my way back home.
Still, the SGSII is an amazing phone with great specs, but in my personal opinion, from the build quality and support from htc alone, this is better.
Jesus guys....... no offense, but are we comparing a phone that was released June of last year. Buy what you like!! All three are great phones!!
I've handled the E4GT, the GNex, and, of course, my own Evo 3D.
And I prefer the 3D by far. The E4GT, while fluid, feels too insubstantial for my tastes. The 3D is thick and heavy, and I love that. My Evo 4G survived drop after drop and it still works, and I'm confident my 3D will be able to do the same (In fact, near the end of my time using the OG Evo, I would throw it every time it overheated and shut off; still nothing wrong with it besides a few scratches and that overheating issue).
The E4GT may have a better camera, but the 3D is no slouch itself. I have been very satisfied with the pictures I have taken; I'm not a professional photographer by any means, and most of you are in the same boat.
I have always looked at Sense as superior to Touchwiz. Touchwiz is more fluid, but Sense seems to have better integration and it just feels more solid.
It's the development community that makes the difference though. Compared to the 3D, the development community for the E4GT is abysmal. As said by Viperboy, "I really can't wait to get the Galaxy Nexus & get rid of the E4GT. What a development failure, IMO. Phone is great but no good development." Last I checked they barely if at all have CM and MIUI, and they don't have much at all for ICS.
The GNex is a good phone, but the specs are a bit disappointing and I don't see it as being an immensely better phone once other phones start to run ICS. It's main advantage is the screen.
Screen sizes are not significantly different (especially after the lost pixels due to the Honey bar), IMO, plus the Note will get ICS in the near future. Also, having experienced with both Wacom and N-trig digitizers, I generally favor Wacom (which is what the Note has). Of course there is a huge price difference between these two at this time, but the Note is also a phone right out of the box (unlocked version is about $650, and AT&T version with two year plan is $300).
So what do you think? Worth shelling out the extra money for the Note? Or remain faithful to the Flyer/View?
Get both! Its what I'm doing! BTW If you get a new two year contract you can take another $100 off the Note price, link through retailmenot
I guess it depends on whether you actually use the stylus for writing BC if you do, I think that the apparently small screen difference will probably be quite apparent. I've never tried out the note, so I could be wrong....but looking at the engadget review writing sample, it looks like I may be correct.
I use the stylus quite a bit. Honestly, for serious inking/annotating for professional purposes (I am a college professor), anything less than a 10-inch screen just looks too small to me, so I use my ThinkPad Tablet. For lighter inking/note-taking, the Flyer is better, also because it is significantly less bulky than the TPT. In this regard, I think the Galaxy Note may be a good substitute.
I'm intrigued by the idea of having both. But personally still on the fence about whether the Note is too big to be practical as a phone.
On a side note, I think its ironic that the stylus is coming back to smartphones (LG is copying the idea also). Everyone was all like "its so cool that the iPhone came out and you don't need the stupid stylus to poke the screen". Now people are realizing that they have some really useful and cool applications, and never should have gotten rid of them. Sure the stylus concept is updated, but the basic idea is the same.
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I'm intrigued by the idea of having both. But personally still on the fence about whether the Note is too big to be practical as a phone.
On a side note, I think its ironic that the stylus is coming back to smartphones (LG is copying the idea also). Everyone was all like "its so cool that the iPhone came out and you don't need the stupid stylus to poke the screen". Now people are realizing that they have some really useful and cool applications, and never should have gotten rid of them. Sure the stylus concept is updated, but the basic idea is the same.
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Yeah, I used to try so hard not to have to use the stylus on my Windows Mobile phones. Now I am like, huh...really...styluses are cool now.
Since I haven't touched either yet I don't have much to add. But I was just debating this before I recently ordered the Flyer. With the Note around $600 (no contracts for me) and the flyer at $200 it was just easier to take a chance on the Flyer. If the Note fails at taking notes then what did I just buy? If the Flyer fails my kids get a new toy. And I am hoping to do more writing than I think I'd want to do on 5".
The review of the Note on The Verge says that the Note has the better pen then the Flyer, accuracy etc. fwiw.
ive only had my note for two days, and i havent used the stylus much yet, but if im making a call id peg the flyer pen as more accurate
Pressure sensitive stylus are useful. The plastic stick palm pilots had allowed poor ui choices
I've been using both. The Note has far better accuracy in writing than the Flyer in my opinion. In addition, the ability to zoom in in portrait mode is much better for fine details. I still can't understand why the Flyer doesn't have this.
That being said, the Flyer's Evernote integration is still hands-down better. The fact that it seamlessly integrates with meetings and reminders as well as automatically syncs with Evernote makes it a lot easier to move between devices with. Also, having the erase button on the stylus is really convenient.
In the end, I'll probably end up replacing my Flyer with the Note just because the Note is a lot more convenient and I only have to carry around one device, but there are still some nice features to the Flyer that you can't find on the Note. Hopefully, Samsung can replicate some of the great functionality HTC worked into the Flyer.
I did take some comparison shots in case anyone was looking at it from a size standpoint. You can find them on my Google album -https://plus.google.com/photos/101248606811583627981/albums/5711273582828842705
Wow, those are great comparison shots. Thank you so much for posting them. I am receiving my Note tomorrow to replace my trusty old Nexus One. I am really pumped-up now!
I have both the Note and the Evo View. I use the Note as my main driver and a phone. My Evo View is used for times I need bigger screen to watch movies or surf the net or play games... I guess I can do all those on my Note but I baby my Note so it doesn't get abuse while my View gets toss around. My kids watch videos on the go on it. It's nice to have the 7" screen for kids to play on as well so that they don't touch my Note.
I do like the pen input better on the View since it's got a bigger screen to draw on and ink as well as better intergration of selecting options for the pen. As far as accuracy and lag... I think they are pretty similar... slight lag and okay accuracy.
Oh..and battery on the View last a lot longer since I have it in airplane mode and wifi on only. It last about a week with about 6 to 7 hour screen on time. During standby.. it only drops about 1% in 24 hours.
If I had to choose just only one device, then it would be the Note though since it can do everything that the View can do. But it is also a lot more expensive as well. My Note was $500 more than the View unless you get the Note on contract then it's only about $100 difference then. But if you just want a tablet with stylus input ability, then I would get the Flyer/View while they are on clearance.
I just tried the Note yesterday and here are my impressions:
1) TAKING NOTES: C-
The thing that struck me the most odd about the Note is that they call it the "Note" and yet have engineered it in such a way as actually taking "notes" on it is almost impossible.
If you are like me and like to rest your fat old palm on the screen as you are writing, the Note simply will not work for you. I assumed that the Engineers at Samsung would have done something clever like disabling the hard buttons at the bottom of the screen anytime the s-pen was within an inch of the screen. But no, they didn't. If you attempt to write notes and your palm hits the hard buttons at the bottom, literally all hell will break loose on the screen. You simply cannot take notes. It is impossible. With the View, after a while you sort of get the hang of resting your palm on the screen in such a way to not trigger the keyboard or menus, but with the Note this is simply not possible.
One HUGE benefit of using the View to take notes is the ability of the pen to quickly highlight typed text. I LOVE this. The s-pen on the Note does not have this ability (that I could tell anyway).
Horrible, horrible implementation by Samsung.
2) SPEED: B
The thing is slow. This REALLY shocked me given the specs but there is no way the Note I tried was nearly as quick as my View. When I scrolled webpages I even saw the dreaded checkerboard pattern occasionally. I was shocked.
3) FORM FACTOR: A+
The size is nice and it's light and thin. I use a bluetooth headset anyway so would never be holding it up to my face and looking like a dork.
Conclusion:
Overall nice device but needs some serious software tweaks to be a contender.
P.S., Guess, what? The Sprint Rep told me that he heard from TPTB that Sprint will be getting the Note this summer.
Did you try the Unlocked International version? Or the AT&T version?
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Did you try the Unlocked International version? Or the AT&T version?
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AT&T Version.
I have both the note and flyer. I use the two Devices interchangeably.
Aside from the clicks noise the pen makes on the flyer screen, it's pen is still better IMO. it has eraser on it - v convenient. Taking screenshots is more straightforward. When. Taking notes, u can just continue to write, page extends to accommodate writing. On the Note however, u must open up a new page after first is full. you must also save the first full page separately...as separate document. Being able to just continue writing on the Flyer is an advantage for note-taking at meetings. But, you need somewhere to put your pen, on the flyer, there's no stylus slot option..
Screen and camera - in some respects is leaps and bounds ahead on Note; brighter images. Although, flyer is still v good for brightened. Flyers have advantage though with regard to current quality control. In snore forums you will notice several concerns about pixilated dark images on stills and videos. Also, concerns about artifacts on some Note screens - visible on dark grey backgrounds.
Calendar - Note has more functionality and pen can be used to arrange calendar appointments - I don't think this can be done on flyer.
Seven screens on Note vs 5 on Honeycombed HTC flyer. However, the note will never be able to touch the Flyer for screen transition animation and weather animation. If you like your bling, it's got to be the flyer, no competition.
Battery...I have been finding the note battery much much better than my flyer battery. With note on low to moderate use, I can go for 2 days. With the flyer, it's only a day. Difference is really apparent when upping use to moderate.
They are both good in own ways. If u can get flyer dirt cheap, buy it alongside the note. If not, stick with Note. Note wins as it easily works as multifunction device. But Flyer is more of a Web-surfing, video and brief note device. Even for the 32GB 3g flyer, phone functionality is difficult (pls correct me if I've got this wrong - as I have wifi-only Flyer but have read moans on 3g threads). So if phone accessibility and quality is important, go for Note. But of you're floored by minor quality control flaws, go for the HTC.
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But Flyer is more of a Web-surfing, video and brief note device
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I've had my note for a couple of days, and the above review is pretty much spot on. I'd like to also add that the Note, despite its size, still feels like a phone, with additional note-taking capabilities and a nice screen. The Flyer, on the other hand, feels more like a small tablet (which is exactly what it is!)
Since I had them both, I would prefer using view than note. I bought note when it first released in my town. And I became so frustated after several days using it due to its form factor isn't note taking friendly. So I gave my note to my wife, and I bought the view. and yes, I am very satisfied with the view.
Saw the 'S' today in the flesh and................what a disappointment. Compared it to Galaxy 2 just on appearance and thought............
Not impressed.
It may have some technical tour de force BUT the physical appearance of the device leaves me cold. It is heavy, p-lasticky and does not exude quality at all. Arc S was ther too and looked so much better and my X10 looked like a nicer device than the 'S'.
it was going to be my next phone BUT this has really turned e off. it does not come across as a quality product in its 'box presentation'. Note I am not commenting on its technical performance. On looks alone it is, in the flesh, a piece of large, fresh water fish.
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Saw the 'S' today in the flesh and................what a disappointment. Compared it to Galaxy 2 just on appearance and thought............
Not impressed.
It may have some technical tour de force BUT the physical appearance of the device leaves me cold. It is heavy, p-lasticky and does not exude quality at all. Arc S was ther too and looked so much better and my X10 looked like a nicer device than the 'S'.
it was going to be my next phone BUT this has really turned e off. it does not come across as a quality product in its 'box presentation'. Note I am not commenting on its technical performance. On looks alone it is, in the flesh, a piece of large, fresh water fish.
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Well maybe for you but for me it's the best phone in years (and have seen them all lol)
But why post in a user forum here puzzles me when you don't like it...
If somebody compares X S to SGS II, which looks like a plastic piece of shoot,
and says X S is "less impressive" or whatever, I say: buy better glasses,
or just don't use this stuff because it influences your perception.
How long will we read here about the ****n.. Scheissung.
I mean everybody has a different taste and for sure X S can be controversial.
But it's still well made, impressive and distinctive device.
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I mean everybody has a different taste and for sure X S can be controversial.
But it's still well made, impressive and distinctive device.
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But, what a feel - just got my S
Well it's your opinion of course but the SG2 is butt ugly compared to this phone and that's my opinion I love the design and look of it, the sg1 and 2 feel like a fischer price toy phone in my hands.
Oke, thx for your opinion.
But mine is totally the other way around, I think this is one of the most awesome smartphone designs since whatever.
I in fact like the weight, the SGSII is way to light for me, feels like a plastic toyphone from wallmart or something. And it feels way more plasticy than the Xperia S imo.
I should receive mine this week and will be able to give my opinion, but I must say that until now I've never touched more plasticky high end devices than Samsung phones... Samsung sports nice specs, pentile or low res screens and the most shiny scratchable plastics... so much that their most advanced development in terms of materials so far has been non shiny plasticky battery covers...
Maybe Xperia S is 2 mm thicker and that could be a problem if you only want the slimmest device, but apart from that I seriously doubt it could feel worse than a Plastic-Samsung phone
And for the Arc, the plastics were not so good, in fact X10i seemed to use a nicer soft touch battery cover.
Maybe you just don't like the design, and that's all right because nothing appeals to everyone, but low quality plasticky compared with a Samsung? Hilarious.
Hey, Just curious what everyone think about screen sizes.
I love how samsung keeps pushing the envelope, I'm not sure if they were the first ones with 4.5 with some gs2 models, and then 4.65 with the nexus.
And they came out with our beautiful note! Everyone said it would fail, but as we all know, it became very popular, and the note 2 is getting alot of publicity now.
And other companies try and leech off of samsungs sucess, like lg with their piece of crap! and there are some other ones that the jury is still out on, like HTC's... but i heard its only going to be 5 inches... the note 2 will be 5.5!
And Then they announce theyre flagship phone at 4.8.
So;
the question is, how far can they go?
First of all, i already know that some people (probably very few) dont like the gs3 because its too big for them. Of course most people understand that we use our phones less and less for talking and more and moree for apps, games, web browsing, movies... so, bigger is better.
But, how much bigger can they go with the flagship phone? when the Galaxy S4 comes out? do you think itll be bigger??
And now, the note,
Samsung thinks, and i agree with them, that they are going to sell a ****load of note 2's. remember, the note 1, was only on att.
This time next year, when the note 2 is announced, what size do you think itll be, and the next one, and the next one....
I tr to picture myself sometimes using the galaxy tab as a phone. but no. thats too big, if it cant fit into a shirt pocket or pants pocket.... then it wont work...
so what do you think? will it stop at 6"? Bear in mind that for at least this year, next year and the year after, Apple will be sticking with 4 inches while everyone else heads up to 5.
Let me just finish by saying that i love the looks and comments i get when using my note in public the top 3 comments are get are "Wow! is that a/your phone?!" "Wow!what phone is that?!" and... youve all heard this.... "Is that a phone or a tablet!!"
And one more thing, I'm sorry you naysayers but, Make it thinner, a little narrower so its easier to hold, a little bigger screen, TWO GIG RAM, 1.6 GH QUAD CORE!, and an absolutely insane battery!! and hey, maybe all the extra software will be nice too,
I'm picking up one of these bad boys as soon as i can get my grubby paws on it!!!
So, who's next?
I'll race you. First to get their pre order in wins. Prize to be determined. Jumping all over note 2 day 1 pre order.
I think the Note 2's 5.5 non pentile size is about perfect t for me. For me, I like the 16:9 ratio much more than the Note 1's 16:10. The two camps seem split about 50/50 on ratio preference but as an avid movie watcher, the 720p screen is actually gonna give more usable real-estate for many things (smaller black bars during movies, etc)
I have a note 10.1 3g and man. This exynos quad is wonderfully smooth and battery life is GREAT. Can't wait to see an even higher clocked version on the Note 2. Only thing I was worried about was battery life but seeing a 3300MaH and seeing how efficient this exynos is, my fears have eased quite a bit.
I still fear LTE though.... H+ is plenty fast for me (1.5 - 2 megs per sec here) and WAY less demanding of battery. In all honesty if ATT offered a 3g and LTE version, I'd probably go with the 3g. I'd rather have 3g and 24+ hour battery than LTE and a 14 hour battery.
Either way Note 2 is a big big upgrade and I'll be all over it the second its available.
Oh and for those that think the screen is a downgrade, look at the android authority in-depth comparison between note 1 and 2 screen. In a nutshell the Note 2 screen dominates. If anyone hasn't read it or naysayers show up in the thread ill post the link.
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I KNOW the Note 2's "screen is bigger with 13 DPI less, failzorz!!" naysayers are gonna pop up so here's the link to the screen comparison.
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-note-2-display-comparison-112812/
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I'm not a naysayer but would like to see the article nonetheless.
As for my opinion, Samsung has my loyalty due to their screens. It started with the Captivate, where I fell in love with Samsung's amoled screens. I could care less about the pentile sub pixel arrangement, the colors on the screen and the truly black blacks meant more to me than the pixels.
After the Captivate was my Infuse, which again was a great phone, and Samsung blew me away again. Yes, it was a plus screen, so it had full sub pixel arrangement, but the benefits of the arrangement compared to the Captivate were marginal due to the difference in screen size.
Then came my Note. With the Note, away went any qualms with pentile, as the resolution is high enough that it really doesn't matter anymore. Plus, with the Note, I can hold my phone twice as far away as my Captivate and comfortably read, which makes the pixels indistinguishable. I also really enjoy the 16:10 aspect ratio for reading articles and forums on my phone in portrait mode.
Same story with my Nexus now. The arrangement is pentile, but I could care less due to the high resolution in such a small package. I have a tough time deciding between my Note and Nexus as to which I want to carry each day. I feel spoiled with the screens on these two phones.
Due to how great the screens on the Nexus and Note are, the screen on the Note 2 isn't improvement enough for me to upgrade. I'm sure its great, and probably better than both my Note and Nexus, but the screen alone won't sway me.
As for the processor and RAM improvements, again, nice upgrades, but I don't game much on my phones and the Note and Nexus are plenty fast for my uses, especially with the great dev community we have. The increased battery life would be nice with that 3000+ mAh battery, but in the course of a day there's no way I could deplete both batteries for my Note and the one in my Nexus.
The way I see it, the screen technologies overall are to the point where most improvements are going to be marginal from here forward...1080p maybe or a more efficient screen...and Samsung's amoled technology puts them on top of all OEMs. My next phone will either be the next Nexus (if it has an amoled screen, hopefully made by Samsung) or the Note 3, and if not either of those two, some beast of a phone that Samsung has up their sleeve.
Hands down, IMO, Samsung makes the best screens out there, and since the screen is what you interact with most on a smartphone, I will stay loyal to Samsung as long as they're on top of the screen game. It will take something better than amoled, truer blacks (somehow?), and better color gamut/representation to end my loyalty.
Edit: I know my post was already long, but I guess I didn't talk about screen size all that much. I could see myself using a 6 in screen if it had a 16:10 aspect ratio, and smaller bezels to keep the overall size down. Give me that with 1080p (slightly more with the 16:10), amoled, and you have my perfect, maximum sized phone screen. With my Note I have no need for a tablet, and a 6 inch Note would make that need even less.
That being said, compared to my Note, I also appreciate the size of all of my other phones. The Nexus is a great size overall, I just can't run tablet mode as nicely. The Infuse was basically the same size phone as the Nexus overall, and I loved that as well. Sometimes that smaller size is nice. As for my Captivate, I still love playing with it whenever I'm with my dad (who uses it now), and think even that was a great size for a phone. I would love to see a phone with a 4 inch 720p screen and great internals. The great thing about Android, is that there are so many choices for screen size, and all sizes have their merits.
I just really hope that OEMS don't go completely 4.7+ inch phones from now on for their flagships, and somebody produces smaller, still top notch spec phones. I know many people that would love a phone that runs as smoothly as my Nexus or a GS3, only with a smaller screen. My gf is 5 foot flat with tiny hands. I would love to guide her to an Android with top notch internals and an iPhone sized screen.
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I didn't quote respond because that'd be even longer lol. I posted the link to the screen comparison above in case ya missed it.
My fiancé is 5'1 with teenie hands so she can't handle the Note either lol.
I agree - Samsung displays are wonderful. Samsung devices in general are wonderful. I actually like the plastic builds - they are high quality but arguably hold up a lot better than metal/glass. Sure there are odd stories of minor falls seriously buggering up a device but that's the same with most phone makers. There are some "duds" that aren't as durable but I've loved my Samsung devices.
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I prefer plastic and light weight over metal and heavy bricks anyday of the week. Phones aren't made for physical abuse and if so, there are cases and screen protectors for protection. This is my third Samsung device and so far, no disappointment. I would agree that the Galaxy Note is NOT a smartphone, it's a SuperPhone!
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
[Lady]: "How do you carry that huge phone in your pocket?"
[Note User]: "I'm used to having huge stuff in my pants"
To a "large" extent I think smartphones need some portability. Screen size of 6" would push the limit on "my" ability to pocket the phone as I maneuver through the day. I could care less about the requirement of many that say they need one-hand ability to work their smartphone...I think that is just an excuse to sooth their jealousy. However, I do find myself moving my Note from front pocket (for sitting) to back pocket (for walking) or laying it on the seat or tabletop at a restaurant.
My favorite thing about my Note is the ability to go larger font size and still fit a decent amount of text on the screen. Hey, I'm getting older and I can't dig the super small print without glasses. That's why I avoid those very nice ROMs that allow tablet, phablet mode, etc.
Personally, I'd like for Samsung to figure out how to eliminate the bezel and have an all glass front. Maybe then they can increase the display and keep the same size xy dimensions of the total Note smartphone. For example, even though the Note II is taller than my Note...it is narrower and thinner so I am considering the possible move to the new one.
Note 1 screen is a winner ....
Note 2 screen is a winner as well.
But I'm always Leary of new device hype, and tend to wait until the rubber hits the road so to speak.
We'll have to wait until these new phones get going, before any grand claims about how much better the screen is etcetera.
Often times the reports and specifications are stretched to a maximum, just to gain market share.
Not unlike the claims made about the note 1, that performs at about 80% of it's rated performance.
And I'm thinking that the note 2 will be the same. A good device, but hyped beyond reality ....
This is simply my opinion .....g
gregsarg said:
Note 1 screen is a winner ....
Note 2 screen is a winner as well.
But I'm always Leary of new device hype, and tend to wait until the rubber hits the road so to speak.
We'll have to wait until these new phones get going, before any grand claims about how much better the screen is etcetera.
Often times the reports and specifications are stretched to a maximum, just to gain market share.
Not unlike the claims made about the note 1, that performs at about 80% of it's rated performance.
And I'm thinking that the note 2 will be the same. A good device, but hyped beyond reality ....
This is simply my opinion .....g
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I might agree with you Greg but there is one thing that makes me disagree.
My note 10.1 has virtually identical specs to the Note 2 and it meets (and sometimes exceeds) the same performance claims made by Samsung about the note 2.
The note 1 was about 80% of its claimed performance but there wasn't something else on the market to really compare it to. With the note 2 we already have the note 10.1 with identical specs except for a 200mhz slower processor clock. The only "unknown" factor of the note 2 is the screen, which, knowing Samsung and early reviews, will NOT be a disappointment.
What I'm saying is if I put the 5.5 inch note 2 screen on my note 10.1, I'd have a note 2. My note 10.1 performs as well as the claims made about the note 2 and I'm not even running jellybean yet. Jellybean provides a huge performance boost with the oem implementation (most jb roms have seen a decrease in performance whereas oem jb builds have greatly boosted performance by 40% in some cases)
I have no doubt the note 2 will 100% live up to the performance hype. We basically already have a 10.1 inch note 2 with a slightly larger resolution to predict how the note 2 will perform.
I'll bet you anything the note 2 in the US does indeed have a quad exynos, LTE, 2GB RAM, and the other claimed stats. Wait and see
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Err0xx said:
My fiancé is 5'1 with teenie hands so she can't handle the Note either lol.
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Heh heh... I'm 5'1/2", yes, half an inch, and I handle my Note just fine. Eh, maybe my hands are a bit bigger or something.
Anyway... I think 6" is probably the biggest that phones can get without just being tablets that can make calls. I don't think they'll get bigger than 5.5 though, to be honest.
I get a lot of "omg what is that?!" comments when I pull my note out too. I've gotten completely used to the size, it looks & feels just normal to me now, but apparently it looks huge to everyone else.
My sig.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
[Lady]: "How do you carry that huge phone in your pocket?"
[Note User]: "I'm used to having huge stuff in my pants"
I just wanted to chime in and say the as great as it is was not the first five inch phone the I have used. I had the Dell Streak and we had some great devs. The Note was an obvious next phone and really is a great unit.
I used in tablet mode most of the time as this is how I used the dell streak.
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Hi Nexus fans,
I love the specs of Nexus 10 esp the awesome display plus the fact that - NO Touchwiz
But its the design (looks) which is troubling me, cant Google/Samsung do better than this?
I am not Apple fanboy but when I see iPad n Nexus 10 side by side in any video, its the iPad which stands out better !!!
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in my opinion the design is okay.. not awesome not bad its just well, okay
I agree with deluxxe. It isn't horrific. It just isn't great.
Yeah I definitely think they could have done better as well.
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it's not as beautiful as LG nexus 4 but i think i love the design of it. I've been waiting for the grippy plastic material for a tablet rather than steel or aluminium.
i love the front facing speaker design and overall i think it's quite beautiful. but then, i haven't see the actual product just like most of us. So i think this is too early to decide.
Not overly impressed with it, it looks too much like the Galaxy Note 10.1 to me.
back looks ugly :/
wis it was more like the n7
Looks fine to me.Should be easy to hold and is still light weight.Gives an impression of durability.
I am much more concerned with the way it works than the way it looks.
No Touchwiz means no dual view which I find extremely disappointing. I would love to true multitask some things on the tablet.
in times where apple sues you for a rectangular shape this is the result for trying to avoid any legal issues...
I think it is not too bad, can live with it..
Yeah well, it definitely won't win style awards, but it also definitely looks like being designed to be pratical... And I like that!
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No Touchwiz means no dual view which I find extremely disappointing. I would love to true multitask some things on the tablet.
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Maybe this isn't the tablet for you.
But to answer OP's question; I think the design is okay, I wouldn't be embarrassed to be holding one. But next to tablets like the Transformer Infinity and even the iPad. It looks not so good.
nexus 4 looks more nice
The whole 'not trying to look like iPad' thing isn't really an excuse for it to look ugly. The Nexus 4 does not look like an iPhone 5, nor did the Galaxy Nexus look like a 4S. Yet they both look amazingly sleek.
If Google let Asus design the Nexus 10, instead of Samsung, I am pretty sure it will look much much better. Of course, Samsung needed to tweak the design, so Apple won't sue them. That's the reason Samsung come up with this design starting with Galaxy Tab 10.1N, then Note 10.1, so design carried over to Nexus 10.
I agree that Nexus 10 does not stands out like iPad, but believe the specs and pure Android 4.2 will be the biggest selling point.
I am still debating whether or not should grab Nexus 10 since already have Nexus 7 (loving it!). But considering how good Nexus 7 is, I might not stop myself and order one!!
im sorry i dont like it hehe
im prefer sony
Looks to me are pretty much irrelevant. I'm not saying it is ugly or pretty or anything like that. I just don't really care, so I don't think about it. Function is what matters to me. How something looks and what others think about those looks is the kind of thing Apple fans tend to obsess over (and no I don't mean that as a dig toward the original poster).
Those kinds of things just don't really matter to me. It's function/usability does.
I will say this about the design: I like the high resolution display but really wish they hadn't gone quite that far in the pixel count unless they were going to put an even faster CPU/GPU in. I also wish they had added microSD. I will wait to pass judgement on the shape until I've had a chance to use one since I don't know if I will like how this shape works for me yet. I do like the 16:9 aspect ratio.
To me it's borderline ugly The strip to attach a back cover is atrocious. But if it has great performance and bright crisp display i'm willing to look past the design.
2560*1600p screen is better than my 23" lol !
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Maybe this isn't the tablet for you.
But to answer OP's question; I think the design is okay, I wouldn't be embarrassed to be holding one. But next to tablets like the Transformer Infinity and even the iPad. It looks not so good.
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Thing is, ever try to USE the Prime/Infinity for long periods? That metal gets uncomfortable fairly quickly, and those whirls in the back retain an unsettling amount of biological matter in a short period of time.
I have a Tab 8.9 LTE, which has a soft touch back (looks to be much the same stuff they're using on the N10), with rounded corners, and it's comfortable for hours. Granted, it's not a brick like a 10" Transformer Infinity (and the N10 will weigh about the same), but the materials used go a long way towards making it more comfortable.
Not to mention letting Google/Samsung sell it at a competitive price, because machining aluminium or magnesium is far more expensive than injection molding plastic, especially on a device the size of a tablet.
You want a more premium device, hold out for the next-gen Samsung or Asus tablets that are sure to show up at CES early next year.
25x16 IPS/PLS screens will be commonplace, Samsung will quite likely have a quad-core Exynos 5 ready by then, Asus will be using something like the S4 Pro or Tegra 4. And they'll be "sexier", made out of more costly materials.
But they won't be stock AOSP, they will be more expensive, and they're several months off, not a week and some change.
If Google let Asus design the Nexus 10, instead of Samsung, I am pretty sure it will look much much better.
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And if Google let Asus design the Nexus 10, it would have light bleed, screen lift, and just about every other problem that's been endemic to the Transformer (and N7) line. I love my N7 for what it does, hate the fact that I'm on unit #4. I've owned every model of Transformer (OG, Prime, Pad, Infinity) and had to either RMA, return, or sell every one of them. Same with their Zenbooks. Asus makes sexy looking devices, but they can't control quality at ALL.
Samsung's industrial design wins no awards for beauty, but they build their devices MUCH better than Asus. My two year old original Galaxy Tab is still rock solid, as is my year-old-and-much-used Tab 8.9 LTE. And the Tab 10.1 I bought last year and gave to my sister is also holding up great.