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I know that x86 project has many android OS's, but why hasn't android made it to the PC scene, that would be EPIC.!!!! Lol
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Google will grab that also , i think u gave great idea to them , so you will be the next CEO .... Lol
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Google will grab that also , i think u gave great idea to them , so you will be the next CEO .... Lol
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Lol if only..... (in dream world lol)
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I guess it will just be a new brench of linux distribution with android like ui
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An android desktop would be slower than a version like linux or windows and android just doesn't have the software of any desktop os so would be a poor choice to use as one.
For example say you want to convert a video or add subtitles to it, make a rom or do some developing etc. Bit hard on what is meant to be a mobile os. Next android version could change that but not anytime soon.
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The Linux 3.3 kernel is bringing in Android features. There is also the Ubuntu for Android project going on. I imagine if Android stays popular that someday you'll be able to easily run Android apps right in Linux. This would help out Linux as it would get some popular apps out there like Neflix and may make it more appealing to people.
At this point, an Android desktop ui wouldn't be of use to anyone, really. As stated before Android doesn't have any desktop applications, and it would likely be a few hundred mb's to get a fairly usable set of apps. Why go through the trouble, when you can just use a launcher like kde plasma?
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At this point, an Android desktop ui wouldn't be of use to anyone, really. As stated before Android doesn't have any desktop applications, and it would likely be a few hundred mb's to get a fairly usable set of apps. Why go through the trouble, when you can just use a launcher like kde plasma?
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What is kde plasma.?
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What is kde plasma.?
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... plasma is basically a ROM for actual linux.
its very pretty, has some cool features, and is featured in kubuntu
Another problem is that for all apps that use native arm code would not run on an x86 processor
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... plasma is basically a ROM for actual linux.
its very pretty, has some cool features, and is featured in kubuntu
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Nicer than Ubuntu.?
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Nicer than Ubuntu.?
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yes, ubuntu is enough if same marketplace here.
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... plasma is basically a ROM for actual linux.
its very pretty, has some cool features, and is featured in kubuntu
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No. Plasma is not basically a Read Only Image (ROM) of a system.
Plasma is the desktop shell of the K Desktop Environment (KDE).
Your android device is more of an actual Linux system than various systems you can run KDE on, as KDE is in not limited to systems running on top of a Linux kernel.
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No. Plasma is not basically a Read Only Image (ROM) of a system.
Plasma is the desktop shell of the K Desktop Environment (KDE).
Your android device is more of an actual Linux system than various systems you can run KDE on, as KDE is in not limited to systems running on top of a Linux kernel.
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I don't know the ins and outs... Sorry.I'm still rather new to Linux, just installed Ubuntu via wubi on my laptop.... Anyways, I just meant it more like "kde is the front end of the whole shebang, just like a ROM is" I guess I probably should've said launcher...
Sorry for any misconceptions
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I'm eagerly awaiting an android desktop environment. I've been using osx for a decade, and I'm getting a little sick of it. Windows is on my gaming machine, and always will be. Plus I can use that machine for heavy CPU stuff like video conversion. But I would love to switch to a smooth Androud environment for every-day use (web browsing, facebook, email, IM, etc).
In the same vein, my friend's daughter corrupted her netbook with viruses within about 2 weeks of getting it, despite anti-virus protection, etc. I offered to install Linux (Newborn) for her to try, which she did, and loved it. Now her only complaint is that she can't download cool apps like she can on her Android. That's another perfect Android scenario. Unfortunately Android x86 isn't compatible with half the hardware on the device (yet). But hopefully someday...
I know it is very early.....but I was who seeing whether it was possible to port jellybean on HP touchpad via SDK....devs at Acer A500 have done it...
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I know it is very early.....but I was who seeing whether it was possible to port jellybean on HP touchpad via SDK....devs at Acer A500 have done it...
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it is possible... theres somebody on the evo 3D doing it, same chipset so its not a far fetched idea.....whether we get a working version, who knows, we'll have to wait for the cm team like last time and they never do things without source, and if anybody wants to port it via SDK, good luck i guess cuz i dont think anybody tried SDK ports for ICS on the touchpad
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it is possible... theres somebody on the evo 3D doing it, same chipset so its not a far fetched idea.....whether we get a working version, who knows, we'll have to wait for the cm team like last time and they never do things without source, and if anybody wants to port it via SDK, good luck i guess cuz i dont think anybody tried SDK ports for ICS on the touchpad
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And since Jelly Bean is just like a small step from ICS.... It shouldn't be that hard.... Only project butter stands in our way...
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I know it is very early.....but I was who seeing whether it was possible to port jellybean on HP touchpad via SDK....devs at Acer A500 have done it...
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They use unmodified cm9 kernel
So we just need someone to compile the sdk
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They use unmodified cm9 kernel
So we just need someone to compile the sdk
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We could contact the cm team but I guess they would not build the sdk one....so we will need to contact other devs
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And since Jelly Bean is just like a small step from ICS.... It shouldn't be that hard.... Only project butter stands in our way...
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don't be saying things down that road lol...you'll get alot of backlash like the e3d forums.....froyo to gingerbread wasn't a huge step but it took people a very long time. Lets just wait for source to be out next month it isnt a very long time. Then since the base framework is similar, it won't take that much longer then it should. I'm more interested in the PDK feature which gives basic source codes for the hardware side of things, exciting times
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don't be saying things down that road lol...you'll get alot of backlash like the e3d forums.....froyo to gingerbread wasn't a huge step but it took people a very long time. Lets just wait for source to be out next month it isnt a very long time. Then since the base framework is similar, it won't take that much longer then it should. I'm more interested in the PDK feature which gives basic source codes for the hardware side of things, exciting times
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U don't understand small step...the base is the same...the framework has been tweaked and the system has been made more fluid due to project butter so.....it should not be took hard to port from the sdk
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U don't understand small step...the base is the same...the framework has been tweaked and the system has been made more fluid due to project butter so.....it should not be took hard to port from the sdk
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Porting anything from the SDK has always been horrible, its not that easy and even if it were that isn't to say it'll be any good.
Remember those SDK ports of Honeycomb...horrendous. There's a reason nobody bothered with an SDK port of ICS for the Touchpad...there terrible.
I'm fine with just waiting until source code is ready. Unlike the switch from GB to ICS on a tablet which was huge, JB isn't really groundbreaking. It has some nice new features but after playing around in the SDK for a while I didn't really see anything that I couldn't wait a few months for.
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U don't understand small step...the base is the same...the framework has been tweaked and the system has been made more fluid due to project butter so.....it should not be took hard to port from the sdk
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I understand it perfectly......it is a small step yes, but in the grand scheme of things when you get an SDK port, when has it always worked perfectly?? If we're testing proof of concept here i can understand but you people want jelly bean to use straight away and to tinker with it. Devs I think have lives and if someone wanted to do it, they would've done it by now cuz its already being booted (albeit black screen) on the one x. Instead of the frustration of porting something using SDK they'd rather wait for source, because then people will start complaining that "this doesn't work, that doesn't work" so on and so forth
Anyone else think it's weird how they went back to the phone layout for the nexus 7? Will it be that way on larger tablets? I'm not a huge fan of how notifications work on my touchpad but the controls may be hard to reach if they go with a phone layout.
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I'd like to mess with SDK port. If a dev would do it. The port for one x has already been updated. They are really going at it...even if they know it wont ever fully work. Maybe they are just getting head start on development.
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its a waste of time. why would any dev spend their time on it,just to have to start over when the real source
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Why don't you ask the one x dev working on SDK port why he is deving it? Jb source will be out in 2 weeks.
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People do it because they want to. Why should that affect others?
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Anyone else think it's weird how they went back to the phone layout for the nexus 7? Will it be that way on larger tablets? I'm not a huge fan of how notifications work on my touchpad but the controls may be hard to reach if they go with a phone layout.
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while the current tablet ui layout is mostly functional, its not very pretty and a bit disjointed when coming from a phone version of android. it also doesnt allow manufacturers to put physical buttons on a tablet without them being redundant, and is called fragmented when compared to the ios on the iphone to ipad. it wouldnt surprise me if they went with this design as their new tablet layout. and it probably wouldnt be as bad as you think. with future cm9 or aokp customizations, youll probably be able to adjust the positions of the nav bar however you want.
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while the current tablet ui layout is mostly functional, its not very pretty and a bit disjointed when coming from a phone version of android. it also doesnt allow manufacturers to put physical buttons on a tablet without them being redundant, and is called fragmented when compared to the ios on the iphone to ipad. it wouldnt surprise me if they went with this design as their new tablet layout. and it probably wouldnt be as bad as you think. with future cm9 or aokp customizations, youll probably be able to adjust the positions of the nav bar however you want.
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I've long thought that the tablet UI for large tablets makes a lot of sense as if straddles the ground between desktop and phone quite nicely. Google aren't making the Nexus 7 UI default for these tablets either, if you emulate a touchpad withe the sdk then you get the UI we have now. On my small A100 the layout is pretty poor, and of course the resolution isn't all that great either but it's so crowded. The Nexus 7 UI works out nicely for smaller screens I think
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Yeah I tried a Galaxy tab 7 at the store yesterday and the ics tablet mode is a little tight. Maybe it wouldn't be a bad thing for a 7" tablet.
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Does that mean that all the work that has been done so far to get a working camera and microphone on ICS for the TP will go to waste with a new firmware?
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Does that mean that all the work that has been done so far to get a working camera and microphone on ICS for the TP will go to waste with a new firmware?
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No, it shouldn't be a waste. ICS is 4.0.x, JB is 4.1.x and is a refined ICS. So all the progress should be able to migrate over.
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Hi gang.
Here is an idea brewing in my head. I know it will spin your head. I am embarking on a mission to bring AOSP to this forsaken land... Fair warning. As you see, there is no "recognized developer" tag underneath my name and for a good reason, I am not one! An average newb here as far as AOSP deving is concerned. I do know the very basics, I did build a couple AOSP builds for the Dinc2 and Transformer prime, but that was trivial as those devices were already supported. This device is not. So, I'll need to figure out how to first setup the environment for this and then learn to make a kernel from the source HTC has (if they released it that is).
So, anyone here who can point me to the right direction to kick this off!?
This thread is intended to be a platform for all those interested in helping bring AOSP to our device. Any and all helpful suggestions in this regard will be appreciated!
Hell yeah! I'm pretty sure if we all pull together we can get something cooking. I was wondering though obviously we aren't on jelly bean. Would it be easier to build an ics cm9 and then add select features like the lock screen, camera, animations etc?
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Hell yeah! I'm pretty sure if we all pull together we can get something cooking. I was wondering though obviously we aren't on jelly bean. Would it be easier to build an ics cm9 and then add select features like the lock screen, camera, animations etc?
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Dunno. I was actually thinking if it is better to build Jellybean 4.1 rather than the latest and greatest 4.2.1. But if there aren't significant changes, may be we can pull off a 4.2 build. I just want to first learn to compile AOSP so that it even boots. I believe I need to mod files to build it for our environment... I wonder where I can learn this stuff..
Nits, Andy, help please!
My new laptop is running Windows 8 and I believe it will be a PITA to get Linux running natively on that due to the UEFI fiasco... I wonder if VM linux will be as fast as native... If not, I'll use my current machine to build and use the new one to due my regular stuff...
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Dunno. I was actually thinking if it is better to build Jellybean 4.1 rather than the latest and greatest 4.2.1. But if there aren't significant changes, may be we can pull off a 4.2 build. I just want to first learn to compile AOSP so that it even boots. I believe I need to mod files to build it for our environment... I wonder where I can learn this stuff..
Nits, Andy, help please!
My new laptop is running Windows 8 and I believe it will be a PITA to get Linux running natively on that due to the UEFI fiasco... I wonder if VM linux will be as fast as native... If not, I'll use my current machine to build and use the new one to due my regular stuff...
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I don't know as there are significant changes but most of the changes are with the lock screen and launcher.
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Im up my incredible comes friday
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My new laptop has just arrived. I wanna ask, will building android be significantly hampered on a virtual machine instead of natively? This new machine comes with windows 8 and potentially will be a pain to load Linux on it. Plus this laptop is meant for someone else and I dont think they will be pleased with Linux on their PC...
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My new laptop has just arrived. I wanna ask, will building android be significantly hampered on a virtual machine instead of natively? This new machine comes with windows 8 and potentially will be a pain to load Linux on it. Plus this laptop is meant for someone else and I dont think they will be pleased with Linux on their PC...
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its always better to have full ubuntu, personally i have win8 too but i installed wubi for ubuntu and everything looks fine(for being a pentium) ubuntu doesnt take much
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its always better to have full ubuntu, personally i have win8 too but i installed wubi for ubuntu and everything looks fine(for being a pentium) ubuntu doesnt take much
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OMG! First build in progress. The damn thing is ACTUALLY building, I think! But still, if I were you, I wouldn't hold my breath. 99.9% sure the end result will most likely not boot!
EDIT: Of course, all that I said before is of any value only if this thing finishes compiling without errors. And I already had a few errors (which I was able to fix). God, I hope this thing compiles! :fingers-crossed:
Update: Several compilation errors. Failure guys :/ Will retry tomorrow...
Hey litetaker, just wanna say thanks so much for doing this I really appreciate it and I'm sure many others do too!
Ill work with him today on my free time, also welcome the new team fireballas member litetaker
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Ill work with him today on my free time, also welcome the new team fireballas member litetaker
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Thanks buddy! Let's do this!
Watching you guys closely love what your doing for this community so for this and all future projects you may have plesse know I'm always willing to load up (Flash) any software you create no matter what beta stage it may be in, it is the least I can do for you and the rest of this great community since I can't develop which I wish I could oh do I wish but seriously keep that in mind my friends.
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Watching you guys closely love what your doing for this community so for this and all future projects you may have plesse know I'm always willing to load up (Flash) any software you create no matter what beta stage it may be in, it is the least I can do for you and the rest of this great community since I can't develop which I wish I could oh do I wish but seriously keep that in mind my friends.
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Great to have volunteers, but by now we are just getting close to get a booteable cm10, will tell you when it boots
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Great to have volunteers, but by now we are just getting close to get a booteable cm10, will tell you when it boots
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Awesome, just awesome.
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I've been informed that AOSP has booted on our phone..
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I've been informed that AOSP has booted on our phone..
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First, news of s-off. Now, AOSP has booted. I don't know how this day can get any better.
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Like I said I'm really starting to love this phone very happy with all the activity in this forum.
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I've been informed that AOSP has booted on our phone..
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Do you know who else is working with this?(only if you can tell)
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Aosp booted
Heres a video of my progress on aosp on this device(never developed a rom without proper files so this is new to me)
will put right here when it uploads
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ_AmZJ5Fu4
The evo 4g lte seems similar in specs to our phone in some regards and it has aosp. Could any of their work help us?
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Ubuntu phone ROMs are available for Nexus devices, and from what little I've read, if you can install CM10 you can install Ubuntu. I know we have some CM10 projects, but is anyone interested in trying to get Ubuntu phone to run on a Player?
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I dont have a linux system currently or any dev experience at all (other than making a "hello world" app)lol but im extremely interested in this project, im at least up for testing if necessary
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It is definitely possible however it hasn't been fully released yet, it would be quite difficult to port it at this stage.
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It is definitely possible however it hasn't been fully released yet, it would be quite difficult to port it at this stage.
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Not really there is a really simple quide on the ubuntu site
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Not really there is a really simple quide on the ubuntu site
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If you find it simple then you port it. I don't find it simple.
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Just to give you guys a heads up.
The Ubuntu touch Dev preview is just a preview. Hardly anything works and it's just not made to be used right now. So I don't think the D's devs would waste their time on this.
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Yeah, I noticed that when I went back to the site for a closer look. Still, glad to see I'm not the only one interested.
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Just to give you guys a heads up.
The Ubuntu touch Dev preview is just a preview. Hardly anything works and it's just not made to be used right now. So I don't think the D's devs would waste their time on this.
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You are right if it was stable then i was building it but now im not gonna waste my time on something that is a little to much unstable now!
Could I request a port of Ubuntu touch? I think it would rock to see that beast in action!
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We are all dying to try it, but we need a Dev to take on the port.
Darn... If I had more knowledge on how to do this I would totally take a wham bam whack at it. I guess reading the forums its a branch off CM 10... I could be wrong. It did say it uses a mirrored git repo and is supported for all official cm10 devices.
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My tablet has a ubunto rom i have the Acer Iconia A500, its a rough build n most things dont work...itll be cool to run somethin new
From what I've heard Ubuntu touch is basically android running Ubuntu touch on top of it, but that was the tablet version so idk about the phone version. Later versions of Ubuntu touch should be full Ubuntu base though.
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Touch runs along side the android virtual machine. In about a year we should see the full Ubuntu mobile app on there own hardware running natively without an android base. The Ubuntu mobile is supoost to be one of the biggest leaps ever in terms of mobility. Its sup post to run on your phone dock with a tablet and even have the ability to use as a low end computer. In short its gonna be awesome!
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I've started a port but I need to find the cm dependencies to complete a full build
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