I know that x86 project has many android OS's, but why hasn't android made it to the PC scene, that would be EPIC.!!!! Lol
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Google will grab that also , i think u gave great idea to them , so you will be the next CEO .... Lol
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Google will grab that also , i think u gave great idea to them , so you will be the next CEO .... Lol
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I guess it will just be a new brench of linux distribution with android like ui
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An android desktop would be slower than a version like linux or windows and android just doesn't have the software of any desktop os so would be a poor choice to use as one.
For example say you want to convert a video or add subtitles to it, make a rom or do some developing etc. Bit hard on what is meant to be a mobile os. Next android version could change that but not anytime soon.
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The Linux 3.3 kernel is bringing in Android features. There is also the Ubuntu for Android project going on. I imagine if Android stays popular that someday you'll be able to easily run Android apps right in Linux. This would help out Linux as it would get some popular apps out there like Neflix and may make it more appealing to people.
At this point, an Android desktop ui wouldn't be of use to anyone, really. As stated before Android doesn't have any desktop applications, and it would likely be a few hundred mb's to get a fairly usable set of apps. Why go through the trouble, when you can just use a launcher like kde plasma?
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At this point, an Android desktop ui wouldn't be of use to anyone, really. As stated before Android doesn't have any desktop applications, and it would likely be a few hundred mb's to get a fairly usable set of apps. Why go through the trouble, when you can just use a launcher like kde plasma?
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What is kde plasma.?
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What is kde plasma.?
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... plasma is basically a ROM for actual linux.
its very pretty, has some cool features, and is featured in kubuntu
Another problem is that for all apps that use native arm code would not run on an x86 processor
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... plasma is basically a ROM for actual linux.
its very pretty, has some cool features, and is featured in kubuntu
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Nicer than Ubuntu.?
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Nicer than Ubuntu.?
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yes, ubuntu is enough if same marketplace here.
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... plasma is basically a ROM for actual linux.
its very pretty, has some cool features, and is featured in kubuntu
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No. Plasma is not basically a Read Only Image (ROM) of a system.
Plasma is the desktop shell of the K Desktop Environment (KDE).
Your android device is more of an actual Linux system than various systems you can run KDE on, as KDE is in not limited to systems running on top of a Linux kernel.
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No. Plasma is not basically a Read Only Image (ROM) of a system.
Plasma is the desktop shell of the K Desktop Environment (KDE).
Your android device is more of an actual Linux system than various systems you can run KDE on, as KDE is in not limited to systems running on top of a Linux kernel.
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I don't know the ins and outs... Sorry.I'm still rather new to Linux, just installed Ubuntu via wubi on my laptop.... Anyways, I just meant it more like "kde is the front end of the whole shebang, just like a ROM is" I guess I probably should've said launcher...
Sorry for any misconceptions
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I'm eagerly awaiting an android desktop environment. I've been using osx for a decade, and I'm getting a little sick of it. Windows is on my gaming machine, and always will be. Plus I can use that machine for heavy CPU stuff like video conversion. But I would love to switch to a smooth Androud environment for every-day use (web browsing, facebook, email, IM, etc).
In the same vein, my friend's daughter corrupted her netbook with viruses within about 2 weeks of getting it, despite anti-virus protection, etc. I offered to install Linux (Newborn) for her to try, which she did, and loved it. Now her only complaint is that she can't download cool apps like she can on her Android. That's another perfect Android scenario. Unfortunately Android x86 isn't compatible with half the hardware on the device (yet). But hopefully someday...
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Hello,
I was just about to buy a cheap desktop to run ubuntu. However I thought now that my phone can be overclocked to 1.5 ghz. This makes it easily fast enough to run ubuntu when my hd2 can run ubuntu fast enough. So why couldnt we have ubuntu running on our sgs2 as well as running the phone os through kies or something similar? However we dont have the mhl cable cable but when it is released then webtop would be very useful and save people a lot of money. If you agree then please make a comment so hopefully developers will not feel like it is a waste of time developing it.
Thanks,
Billy
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I guess were not getting webtop ported then
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Even if somebody developed a webtop-esque environment for the SGS2, how would you control it? The one port would already be taken up by an mhl/hdmi cable and there is no Bluetooth HID profile.
I would like to see this, have seen videos of youtube of people running windows 7 / linux environments on their smartphones such as HTC HD2 & Nexus One, saw the article of the X10i getting some linux love and wouldn't mind trying it out as well.
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I guess were not getting webtop ported then
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You would need to find somebody to spend their time carrying out such a task .
Offer a $7000 reward somebody might .
jje
I've just been watching loads of YouTube videos about people trying to install android on iPhones. My question is why?? Android is open source and iOS is closed source. Android users don't see developers porting iOS to android devices do we? Because its pointless and its never going to work. If they want android....buy an android device....simples
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1, to do what is unconventional
2, to bring it to an apple store and piss off the apple fanboys
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Android was designed so that it could be installed on any device. It's up to the developers to fix the drivers to work. Practical? No. Do it because we can? Hell yea!
Edit: for Yall that didn't know.. we got android on microwaves and washing machines now. Seriously. Look it up.
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Android was designed so that it could be installed on any device. It's up to the developers to fix the drivers to work. Practical? No. Do it because we can? Hell yea!
Edit: for Yall that didn't know.. we got android on microwaves and washing machines now. Seriously. Look it up.
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I just don't get it because nothing works on the iPhone version. So then its pretty much pointless. That's like me having iOS on my i9000 but nothing working within lol waste of space and pointless in my opinion
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- as a challenge, to see if it's possible and if they'll get it working
- as a hobby
And last but not least:
- because they can
Or to say it completely freely:
- for the lulz
There doesn't need to be a deeper meaning behind such endeavors. They're geeks. Let them be geeks. Different people do all sorts of different stuff, these people port their favorite OS to every device they can get their hands on.
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Because they thought the iPhone was better than android and when they bought it and used an android phone they were pissed they got such a crappy phone.
Plain and simple.
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+1 its just ridiculous, want android?? Get an android phone right? Lol
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So I wanted to see peoples reaction to porting android to a Xbox or wii ? I have been contemplating putting some time and money into porting a rom for the wii I think it would be really crazy! I managed to get the android live disc running on my modded Xbox but no controls yet. Would anyone be interested in a rom for the wii if I get it working? Let me now!
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Sounds intriguing. I for one would want to see it.
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Sounds intriguing. I for one would want to see it.
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Ok thanks for the input. Would you be interested in testing it when I get to the beta stage?
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I would be interested as well
I'm interested in honeycomb on the
Wii
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I'm interested in honeycomb on the
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My same thought with a few modifications of course
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I'll test it on the wii. Or Xbox 360.
Hell this would give me a reason to turn my wii on
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I'll test it on the wii. Or Xbox 360.
Hell this would give me a reason to turn my wii on
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Sweet Im still in the contemplating phase so well see
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The Wii would be helped by the fact that it has a massive Linux porting community. Check out Whiite Linux. Sadly, they barely have X Window running on most implementations.
On that matter, most of the android functionality is already there, it's a matter of looking pretty. Short Of Angry Birds, they've beat you to it in a lot of ways. They've got apps and even an appstore called the Homebrew Browser. Everything is very slow, but what can you expect from it? Yes, most of the good stuff is running by putting Devkit Pro on top of a weak linux, so some improvement could be had. It's not android, but it does the same things.
So far as the 360 goes, if you could put an indie game out with an intentional bug that lets you run Androidx86 off a thumb drive, you could use the Kinect to emulate touch screen. USB keyboard is available to fill in the rest.
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The Wii would be helped by the fact that it has a massive Linux porting community. Check out Whiite Linux. Sadly, they barely have X Window running on most implementations.
On that matter, most of the android functionality is already there, it's a matter of looking pretty. Short Of Angry Birds, they've beat you to it in a lot of ways. They've got apps and even an appstore called the Homebrew Browser. Everything is very slow, but what can you expect from it? Yes, most of the good stuff is running by putting Devkit Pro on top of a weak linux, so some improvement could be had. It's not android, but it does the same things.
So far as the 360 goes, if you could put an indie game out with an intentional bug that lets you run Androidx86 off a thumb drive, you could use the Kinect to emulate touch screen. USB keyboard is available to fill in the rest.
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Thank you I'm exploring home brew I was just thinking honeycomb would be sick!
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It'd be great, but considering that the Wii is running on 2001 State Of The Art, I doubt it will be able to handle much without the official devkit (Which is illegal unless you are a major label dev). Also, everything has to be put into a binary to load, so even Whiite is being done a convoluted way. I have a bit of knowledge of running homebrew on Wii, so I can get you any info or testing you need.
Start with Froyo. Honeycomb won't happen. Maybe Ice Cream Sandwich, but not Honeycomb, for this type of project, you'll NEED kernel source.
I'd be willing to test on Wii or 360. Sounds awesome.
Wow! Right up my street. My two favs mashed together. So INTERESTED! I'm new to the 'DEV', but addicted, and learning at lightspeed. Xboxs ready and waiting 2 serve! Xbox nandroid would revolutionize the world. It would be one of the most popular PCs ever, not to mention cheap.
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It'd be great, but considering that the Wii is running on 2001 State Of The Art, I doubt it will be able to handle much without the official devkit (Which is illegal unless you are a major label dev). Also, everything has to be put into a binary to load, so even Whiite is being done a convoluted way. I have a bit of knowledge of running homebrew on Wii, so I can get you any info or testing you need.
Start with Froyo. Honeycomb won't happen. Maybe Ice Cream Sandwich, but not Honeycomb, for this type of project, you'll NEED kernel source.
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Honeycomb kernel sources are out, its the rest of the source not available.
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Found A Way
Okay, so i was doing some searching and i found something called android-x86
(wwwDOTandroid-x86DOTorg) and they have full source code for a x86/PPC version of android, gingerbread currently. which is good because of the wii which has a PPC prossesor. If you do some editing im sure someone can make android for wii.
I'd be willing to test either system android TV would be cool if we could figure that out .. wii or 360 would be excellent to have android os on it I'm thinking wii would be easy for everyone to use since its so easy to mod and the hbc delivers downloads for everyone
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I would be a full time lab rat on 360. I'd feel feel like I'm in wonder land
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I hate to be cynical here, but the Wii only has 88mb of ram. I dont know if thats enough to run Android. Not to mention that Android was written for the ARM platform and the Wii is PPC.
I would be happy to see android ruining on the xbox 360. Its got to be under of the best ideas I have heard yet.
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I would be happy to see android ruining on the xbox 360. Its got to be under of the best ideas I have heard yet.
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Yes this is the best idea
Is there any that we'll see Ubuntu custom roms? Or will i have to buy an Ubuntu Phone in order to experience it?
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Chances are quite high that we will. Also IIRC Ubuntu said that they will be making their OS compatible with many popular Android devices, so an official Ubuntu ROM can be flashed instead of an Android ROM.
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It's possible to see an Ubuntu ROM.
Also they said that they will release an Emulator & SDK for Ubuntu Phone Development until next week, so there is a big chance to see an official ROM released soon....
Ubuntu Phone Devs...Prepare!!!!!
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Sounds Awesome! A smart move by them would be to somehow make android apps compatible with it cuz it will take them a looooong time to get to the amount of apps android already has (if it ever will)...
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It's possible to see an Ubuntu ROM.
Also they said that they will release an Emulator & SDK for Ubuntu Phone Development until next week, so there is a big chance to see an official ROM released soon....
Ubuntu Phone Devs...Prepare!!!!!
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Sounds Awesome! A smart move by them would be to somehow make android apps compatible with it cuz it will take them a looooong time to get to the amount of apps android already has (if it ever will)...
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Im pretty sure you can get android apps to work in ubuntu if you use multiarch.
Ubuntu OS is meant to run on Android (multi-core devices) only I believe. So if you meet this requirement you will get this They also mentioned that other flavors of linux will be released. (Not supported by Ubuntu however)
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Is there any that we'll see Ubuntu custom roms? Or will i have to buy an Ubuntu Phone in order to experience it?
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If you are satisfied with running Ubuntu in parallel with Android, you can always make an Ubuntu ROM yourself, following my HOWTO in my signature.
Good assumption
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Chances are quite high that we will. Also IIRC Ubuntu said that they will be making their OS compatible with many popular Android devices, so an official Ubuntu ROM can be flashed instead of an Android ROM.
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I was just reviewing the release notes and it appears you are correct my friend.
Jayfla
would be nice
hope soon an alpha build would be uploaded:highfive:
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i think it will need a couple of weeks untill ubuntu "custom roms" will be portet to non nexus devices, because teh only devices that r officially supportet by ubuntu phone are the nexus 4 and the galaxy nexus.
You should know that Ubuntu Phone needs high resources to run on any devices.
There r few Devs at the moment that know how to port this on any device, and most of this r the devs of Ubuntu itself.
I would not name Ubuntu Phone a custom rom because it's not based on Android => it's a mobile OS based on linux but not on android
The first UbuntuPhones will be selled much later there are no at the moment
I am wondering why people would want to use Ubuntu Touch over android. I don't see many (if any) benefits of using it over Android.
I see that the section isn't very popular, but I hope someone can answer my question.
Thank you
I want a change. I'm tired of Android in a way. I'm the kind of guy that used to install a new Linux distribution every week. Not anymore though, no distro is compatible with my wireless adapter.
The prospect of a swipe based OS excites me. Plus, it's Ubuntu. I actually don't need a reason more than that.
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I want a change. I'm tired of Android in a way. I'm the kind of guy that used to install a new Linux distribution every week. Not anymore though, no distro is compatible with my wireless adapter.
The prospect of a swipe based OS excites me. Plus, it's Ubuntu. I actually don't need a reason more than that.
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These are exactly the reasons why I am using Ubuntu Touch as well (except that I've never installed another Linux distribution than Ubuntu).
And I like the community. There's one on Google Plus and for bugs, you've got Launchpad. That way you can contribute to the project and discuss bugs very easily. Moreover, Canonical is very open towards ideas from the community. They do weekly Q&A sessions and they give you many information about what they actually do. And there are these daily updates which you can install if you want to (I do ).
Additionally, I like how simple app development is for Ubuntu Touch (at least what I've seen so far, working on my first real app).
You should, however, keep in mind that it's still in a very early stage. There's no native email app yet, you need to use webapps (there's one for Google Mail for example). Nevertheless, there are new apps every day.
If you're lucky there's a dual-boot solution for your phone. For a lot of Nexus devices there's MultiROM by @Tasssadar. This is what I currently use. I rarely reboot to Android though.
I'm looking for a more open alternative to google/android. Google is building a walled garden as they move their apps to close source and more tightly integrate google with the device. Try using stock aosp without a google account. I like being able to customize and mod my phone, but lately, I can feel uncle google getting a little too pushy about what I can and can not do on my phone. I can understand google's business model and the individual users who choose, knowingly or unknowingly, to subscribe to it, although it is not to my taste, so I am looking for alternatives that are truly open where my data and privacy are under my control.
Putting aside my issues with google, other advantages of ubuntu touch would be a linux based OS that integrates with my desktop (also linux). I think Canonical/Ubuntu/Shuttleworth has hit the nail on the head with device convergence. To me, the phone and the desktop are just hardware that I happen to use in different places. The content, the data, and the connectivity are the things that are important to my user experience. The hardware is merely the finger pointing to the moon.
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I'm looking for a more open alternative to google/android. Google is building a walled garden as they move their apps to close source and more tightly integrate google with the device. Try using stock aosp without a google account. I like being able to customize and mod my phone, but lately, I can feel uncle google getting a little too pushy about what I can and can not do on my phone. I can understand google's business model and the individual users who choose, knowingly or unknowingly, to subscribe to it, although it is not to my taste, so I am looking for alternatives that are truly open where my data and privacy are under my control.
Putting aside my issues with google, other advantages of ubuntu touch would be a linux based OS that integrates with my desktop (also linux). I think Canonical/Ubuntu/Shuttleworth has hit the nail on the head with device convergence. To me, the phone and the desktop are just hardware that I happen to use in different places. The content, the data, and the connectivity are the things that are important to my user experience. The hardware is merely the finger pointing to the moon.
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Completely true. We definitely need more privacy and the convergence idea is great. :good:
can't wait one minute more
Androids Google+ integration gets more and more annoying. Don't wanna deal with that social media crap.
...and I will never forgive Google for ditching Talk which was a huge opportunity to establish an open format.
Alucai Vivorvel said:
I want a change. I'm tired of Android in a way. I'm the kind of guy that used to install a new Linux distribution every week. Not anymore though, no distro is compatible with my wireless adapter.
The prospect of a swipe based OS excites me. Plus, it's Ubuntu. I actually don't need a reason more than that.
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Broadcom got you too eh? Haha, and I agree. The first Ubuntu distro I installed on a PC was 8.04 LTS. After having to mess around with the terminal to get ANY wireless adapter to work back then, really set me up for the era of Android smart phones. I love Ubuntu, I love the philosophy of Ubuntu. And when Ubuntu touch takes off, I'll definitely be excited to flash it onto a phone. Like you said, I don't need any more of a reason other than it's Ubuntu.
A new OS, it's Ubuntu!!!, awesome gestures, and when ACL is setup you'll be able to have all your favourite android apps on Ubuntu Touch.
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A new OS, it's Ubuntu!!!, awesome gestures, and when ACL is setup you'll be able to have all your favourite android apps on Ubuntu Touch.
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Sure about that? I heard that Ubuntu will never support Android apps. Sailfish and Tizen do, but not Ubuntu. Correct me if I'm wrong (sources?).
I agree with you though. The gestures are much more fun than Android's soft buttons.
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A new OS, it's Ubuntu!!!, awesome gestures, and when ACL is setup you'll be able to have all your favourite android apps on Ubuntu Touch.
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I can't see why they wouldn't be easily ported to Ubuntu. Both are Linux based
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I thought the same thing with webOS. It's Linux, why not port? But even though the core is the same the code on top is not. Difference between c++, qml, java, and JavaScript. For ACL, There is a sense of moving towards other Mobile Linux OS's. Money is the factor.
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I can't see why they wouldn't be easily ported to Ubuntu. Both are Linux based
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Well, they removed Dalvik and ART from that part of Android which they are using in Ubuntu for phones. So there won't be Android apps. (The Android design wouldn't fit into Ubuntu as well.)
Quote from an Engadget interview:
Since Android is also Linux-based, is there any plan for Ubuntu to run Android apps?
Many Android developers already use Ubuntu as their desktop OS and we have a very close affinity with them. We intend to encourage them to make their Android applications run on Ubuntu, but we won't engineer any middleware for running Android apps. Developers are intelligent and capable enough to make their apps run on our devices. We have an active initiative right now to directly help them achieve this.
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EDIT: Have a look at this as well: http://askubuntu.com/questions/247973/will-android-apps-be-compatible-with-the-ubuntu-phone-os
I want to switch because I want all my devices to be uniform and work with each other in a way Apple and Microsoft are failing to do. Having Ubuntu on my laptops, tablets, phones, desktops and televisions, and them working flawlessly together is going to be killer. Too bad this won't happen for another couple of years or so.
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I want to switch because I want all my devices to be uniform and work with each other in a way Apple and Microsoft are failing to do. Having Ubuntu on my laptops, tablets, phones, desktops and televisions, and them working flawlessly together is going to be killer. Too bad this won't happen for another couple of years or so.
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You could technically already do this with android and chromium no?
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You could technically already do this with android and chromium no?
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Not completely. You can't have all your devices (TV, Mobile devices, computers, etc.) Running one unified platform. What Canonical wants to do is use one OS across all devices with changes to the UI so it fits with whatever you are using. So you will (in the future) be running Ubuntu desktop across all your devices with changes to the UI.
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Not completely. You can't have all your devices (TV, Mobile devices, computers, etc.) Running one unified platform. What Canonical wants to do is use one OS across all devices with changes to the UI so it fits with whatever you are using. So you will (in the future) be running Ubuntu desktop across all your devices with changes to the UI.
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You already do, except those 5 % which Unity makes up.
The Unity version is the only thing that's still different.
Nothing yet?
No news about this? D: i need Ubuntu on my phone xDDDD
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You already do, except those 5 % which Unity makes up.
The Unity version is the only thing that's still different.
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I want complete uniformity. And that's what Canonical is doing.
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Blakebn2012 said:
I am wondering why people would want to use Ubuntu Touch over android. I don't see many (if any) benefits of using it over Android.
I see that the section isn't very popular, but I hope someone can answer my question.
Thank you
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I want the Ubuntu Touch for my Samsung Galaxy S3 do to the fact it's able to sync to the desktop, this would all be work-friendly as I use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and have this setup as my OS.
Still looks underdeveloped and I don't want to flash as I think my bootloader is jammed. I'm happy with the android but would like to venture into this.
Hope that answers your question for you.
Kent C.
I want to see Ubuntu on my phone and tablet because then once the real initial hurdle happens it will be fork season. If there are only small changes needed underneath to make Ubuntu run on any android device that can already run cyanogen mod it will be trivial to modifty each new version quickly to run on compatible devices. When forking the distro takes off we will probably see an automated system to build the needed underparts for each device pop up.