[Q] Why choose Ubuntu Touch over Android - Ubuntu Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am wondering why people would want to use Ubuntu Touch over android. I don't see many (if any) benefits of using it over Android.
I see that the section isn't very popular, but I hope someone can answer my question.
Thank you

I want a change. I'm tired of Android in a way. I'm the kind of guy that used to install a new Linux distribution every week. Not anymore though, no distro is compatible with my wireless adapter.
The prospect of a swipe based OS excites me. Plus, it's Ubuntu. I actually don't need a reason more than that.
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Alucai Vivorvel said:
I want a change. I'm tired of Android in a way. I'm the kind of guy that used to install a new Linux distribution every week. Not anymore though, no distro is compatible with my wireless adapter.
The prospect of a swipe based OS excites me. Plus, it's Ubuntu. I actually don't need a reason more than that.
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These are exactly the reasons why I am using Ubuntu Touch as well (except that I've never installed another Linux distribution than Ubuntu).
And I like the community. There's one on Google Plus and for bugs, you've got Launchpad. That way you can contribute to the project and discuss bugs very easily. Moreover, Canonical is very open towards ideas from the community. They do weekly Q&A sessions and they give you many information about what they actually do. And there are these daily updates which you can install if you want to (I do ).
Additionally, I like how simple app development is for Ubuntu Touch (at least what I've seen so far, working on my first real app).
You should, however, keep in mind that it's still in a very early stage. There's no native email app yet, you need to use webapps (there's one for Google Mail for example). Nevertheless, there are new apps every day.
If you're lucky there's a dual-boot solution for your phone. For a lot of Nexus devices there's MultiROM by @Tasssadar. This is what I currently use. I rarely reboot to Android though.

I'm looking for a more open alternative to google/android. Google is building a walled garden as they move their apps to close source and more tightly integrate google with the device. Try using stock aosp without a google account. I like being able to customize and mod my phone, but lately, I can feel uncle google getting a little too pushy about what I can and can not do on my phone. I can understand google's business model and the individual users who choose, knowingly or unknowingly, to subscribe to it, although it is not to my taste, so I am looking for alternatives that are truly open where my data and privacy are under my control.
Putting aside my issues with google, other advantages of ubuntu touch would be a linux based OS that integrates with my desktop (also linux). I think Canonical/Ubuntu/Shuttleworth has hit the nail on the head with device convergence. To me, the phone and the desktop are just hardware that I happen to use in different places. The content, the data, and the connectivity are the things that are important to my user experience. The hardware is merely the finger pointing to the moon.

gee one said:
I'm looking for a more open alternative to google/android. Google is building a walled garden as they move their apps to close source and more tightly integrate google with the device. Try using stock aosp without a google account. I like being able to customize and mod my phone, but lately, I can feel uncle google getting a little too pushy about what I can and can not do on my phone. I can understand google's business model and the individual users who choose, knowingly or unknowingly, to subscribe to it, although it is not to my taste, so I am looking for alternatives that are truly open where my data and privacy are under my control.
Putting aside my issues with google, other advantages of ubuntu touch would be a linux based OS that integrates with my desktop (also linux). I think Canonical/Ubuntu/Shuttleworth has hit the nail on the head with device convergence. To me, the phone and the desktop are just hardware that I happen to use in different places. The content, the data, and the connectivity are the things that are important to my user experience. The hardware is merely the finger pointing to the moon.
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Completely true. We definitely need more privacy and the convergence idea is great. :good:

can't wait one minute more
Androids Google+ integration gets more and more annoying. Don't wanna deal with that social media crap.
...and I will never forgive Google for ditching Talk which was a huge opportunity to establish an open format.

Alucai Vivorvel said:
I want a change. I'm tired of Android in a way. I'm the kind of guy that used to install a new Linux distribution every week. Not anymore though, no distro is compatible with my wireless adapter.
The prospect of a swipe based OS excites me. Plus, it's Ubuntu. I actually don't need a reason more than that.
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Broadcom got you too eh? Haha, and I agree. The first Ubuntu distro I installed on a PC was 8.04 LTS. After having to mess around with the terminal to get ANY wireless adapter to work back then, really set me up for the era of Android smart phones. I love Ubuntu, I love the philosophy of Ubuntu. And when Ubuntu touch takes off, I'll definitely be excited to flash it onto a phone. Like you said, I don't need any more of a reason other than it's Ubuntu.

A new OS, it's Ubuntu!!!, awesome gestures, and when ACL is setup you'll be able to have all your favourite android apps on Ubuntu Touch.
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blmvxer said:
A new OS, it's Ubuntu!!!, awesome gestures, and when ACL is setup you'll be able to have all your favourite android apps on Ubuntu Touch.
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Sure about that? I heard that Ubuntu will never support Android apps. Sailfish and Tizen do, but not Ubuntu. Correct me if I'm wrong (sources?).
I agree with you though. The gestures are much more fun than Android's soft buttons.

blmvxer said:
A new OS, it's Ubuntu!!!, awesome gestures, and when ACL is setup you'll be able to have all your favourite android apps on Ubuntu Touch.
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I can't see why they wouldn't be easily ported to Ubuntu. Both are Linux based
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I thought the same thing with webOS. It's Linux, why not port? But even though the core is the same the code on top is not. Difference between c++, qml, java, and JavaScript. For ACL, There is a sense of moving towards other Mobile Linux OS's. Money is the factor.
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atmu5fear said:
I can't see why they wouldn't be easily ported to Ubuntu. Both are Linux based
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Well, they removed Dalvik and ART from that part of Android which they are using in Ubuntu for phones. So there won't be Android apps. (The Android design wouldn't fit into Ubuntu as well.)
Quote from an Engadget interview:
Since Android is also Linux-based, is there any plan for Ubuntu to run Android apps?
Many Android developers already use Ubuntu as their desktop OS and we have a very close affinity with them. We intend to encourage them to make their Android applications run on Ubuntu, but we won't engineer any middleware for running Android apps. Developers are intelligent and capable enough to make their apps run on our devices. We have an active initiative right now to directly help them achieve this.
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EDIT: Have a look at this as well: http://askubuntu.com/questions/247973/will-android-apps-be-compatible-with-the-ubuntu-phone-os

I want to switch because I want all my devices to be uniform and work with each other in a way Apple and Microsoft are failing to do. Having Ubuntu on my laptops, tablets, phones, desktops and televisions, and them working flawlessly together is going to be killer. Too bad this won't happen for another couple of years or so.
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'Murica said:
I want to switch because I want all my devices to be uniform and work with each other in a way Apple and Microsoft are failing to do. Having Ubuntu on my laptops, tablets, phones, desktops and televisions, and them working flawlessly together is going to be killer. Too bad this won't happen for another couple of years or so.
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You could technically already do this with android and chromium no?
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atmu5fear said:
You could technically already do this with android and chromium no?
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Not completely. You can't have all your devices (TV, Mobile devices, computers, etc.) Running one unified platform. What Canonical wants to do is use one OS across all devices with changes to the UI so it fits with whatever you are using. So you will (in the future) be running Ubuntu desktop across all your devices with changes to the UI.
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'Murica said:
Not completely. You can't have all your devices (TV, Mobile devices, computers, etc.) Running one unified platform. What Canonical wants to do is use one OS across all devices with changes to the UI so it fits with whatever you are using. So you will (in the future) be running Ubuntu desktop across all your devices with changes to the UI.
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You already do, except those 5 % which Unity makes up.
The Unity version is the only thing that's still different.

Nothing yet?
No news about this? D: i need Ubuntu on my phone xDDDD

nikwen said:
You already do, except those 5 % which Unity makes up.
The Unity version is the only thing that's still different.
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I want complete uniformity. And that's what Canonical is doing.
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Blakebn2012 said:
I am wondering why people would want to use Ubuntu Touch over android. I don't see many (if any) benefits of using it over Android.
I see that the section isn't very popular, but I hope someone can answer my question.
Thank you
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I want the Ubuntu Touch for my Samsung Galaxy S3 do to the fact it's able to sync to the desktop, this would all be work-friendly as I use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and have this setup as my OS.
Still looks underdeveloped and I don't want to flash as I think my bootloader is jammed. I'm happy with the android but would like to venture into this.
Hope that answers your question for you.
Kent C.

I want to see Ubuntu on my phone and tablet because then once the real initial hurdle happens it will be fork season. If there are only small changes needed underneath to make Ubuntu run on any android device that can already run cyanogen mod it will be trivial to modifty each new version quickly to run on compatible devices. When forking the distro takes off we will probably see an automated system to build the needed underparts for each device pop up.

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[Q] Android on iPhone/s...why??

I've just been watching loads of YouTube videos about people trying to install android on iPhones. My question is why?? Android is open source and iOS is closed source. Android users don't see developers porting iOS to android devices do we? Because its pointless and its never going to work. If they want android....buy an android device....simples
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1, to do what is unconventional
2, to bring it to an apple store and piss off the apple fanboys
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in china,we can't watch youtube because of the Great Fire Wall
Android was designed so that it could be installed on any device. It's up to the developers to fix the drivers to work. Practical? No. Do it because we can? Hell yea!
Edit: for Yall that didn't know.. we got android on microwaves and washing machines now. Seriously. Look it up.
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Android was designed so that it could be installed on any device. It's up to the developers to fix the drivers to work. Practical? No. Do it because we can? Hell yea!
Edit: for Yall that didn't know.. we got android on microwaves and washing machines now. Seriously. Look it up.
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I just don't get it because nothing works on the iPhone version. So then its pretty much pointless. That's like me having iOS on my i9000 but nothing working within lol waste of space and pointless in my opinion
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- as a challenge, to see if it's possible and if they'll get it working
- as a hobby
And last but not least:
- because they can
Or to say it completely freely:
- for the lulz
There doesn't need to be a deeper meaning behind such endeavors. They're geeks. Let them be geeks. Different people do all sorts of different stuff, these people port their favorite OS to every device they can get their hands on.
cvbcbcmv said:
Because they thought the iPhone was better than android and when they bought it and used an android phone they were pissed they got such a crappy phone.
Plain and simple.
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+1 its just ridiculous, want android?? Get an android phone right? Lol
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Why no android PC.?

I know that x86 project has many android OS's, but why hasn't android made it to the PC scene, that would be EPIC.!!!! Lol
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Google will grab that also , i think u gave great idea to them , so you will be the next CEO .... Lol
mamoo said:
Google will grab that also , i think u gave great idea to them , so you will be the next CEO .... Lol
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Lol if only..... (in dream world lol)
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I guess it will just be a new brench of linux distribution with android like ui
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An android desktop would be slower than a version like linux or windows and android just doesn't have the software of any desktop os so would be a poor choice to use as one.
For example say you want to convert a video or add subtitles to it, make a rom or do some developing etc. Bit hard on what is meant to be a mobile os. Next android version could change that but not anytime soon.
Dave
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The Linux 3.3 kernel is bringing in Android features. There is also the Ubuntu for Android project going on. I imagine if Android stays popular that someday you'll be able to easily run Android apps right in Linux. This would help out Linux as it would get some popular apps out there like Neflix and may make it more appealing to people.
At this point, an Android desktop ui wouldn't be of use to anyone, really. As stated before Android doesn't have any desktop applications, and it would likely be a few hundred mb's to get a fairly usable set of apps. Why go through the trouble, when you can just use a launcher like kde plasma?
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At this point, an Android desktop ui wouldn't be of use to anyone, really. As stated before Android doesn't have any desktop applications, and it would likely be a few hundred mb's to get a fairly usable set of apps. Why go through the trouble, when you can just use a launcher like kde plasma?
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What is kde plasma.?
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What is kde plasma.?
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... plasma is basically a ROM for actual linux.
its very pretty, has some cool features, and is featured in kubuntu
Another problem is that for all apps that use native arm code would not run on an x86 processor
new ion? said:
... plasma is basically a ROM for actual linux.
its very pretty, has some cool features, and is featured in kubuntu
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Nicer than Ubuntu.?
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ognimnella said:
Nicer than Ubuntu.?
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yes, ubuntu is enough if same marketplace here.
new ion? said:
... plasma is basically a ROM for actual linux.
its very pretty, has some cool features, and is featured in kubuntu
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No. Plasma is not basically a Read Only Image (ROM) of a system.
Plasma is the desktop shell of the K Desktop Environment (KDE).
Your android device is more of an actual Linux system than various systems you can run KDE on, as KDE is in not limited to systems running on top of a Linux kernel.
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No. Plasma is not basically a Read Only Image (ROM) of a system.
Plasma is the desktop shell of the K Desktop Environment (KDE).
Your android device is more of an actual Linux system than various systems you can run KDE on, as KDE is in not limited to systems running on top of a Linux kernel.
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I don't know the ins and outs... Sorry.I'm still rather new to Linux, just installed Ubuntu via wubi on my laptop.... Anyways, I just meant it more like "kde is the front end of the whole shebang, just like a ROM is" I guess I probably should've said launcher...
Sorry for any misconceptions
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I'm eagerly awaiting an android desktop environment. I've been using osx for a decade, and I'm getting a little sick of it. Windows is on my gaming machine, and always will be. Plus I can use that machine for heavy CPU stuff like video conversion. But I would love to switch to a smooth Androud environment for every-day use (web browsing, facebook, email, IM, etc).
In the same vein, my friend's daughter corrupted her netbook with viruses within about 2 weeks of getting it, despite anti-virus protection, etc. I offered to install Linux (Newborn) for her to try, which she did, and loved it. Now her only complaint is that she can't download cool apps like she can on her Android. That's another perfect Android scenario. Unfortunately Android x86 isn't compatible with half the hardware on the device (yet). But hopefully someday...

[Q] What are the interest of XDA developers to get their hands on Ubuntu OS?

First of all. I'm not a developer. I consider myself a power user.
With that said. I do love the idea of try Ubuntu OS on my SGS3. And when Canonical announced that they are bringing their Ubuntu to mobile phones, I became very excited.
My question is this. How many developers and power users are interested in getting their hands on Ubuntu OS to try to get it working on the devices they own? As an individual, I have no power to go to Canonical and tell them that I am interested in Ubuntu OS for mobile phones. However if we, as the XDA family of users and developers, among the biggest of hobby developers out there, and probably one of the biggest Beta testers you could find, connected with Canonical, there is a possibility that we could get their attention.
I for one would love to see an image for the S3. As a dual boot or just plain Ubuntu on the phone.
So here is my proposal. I would like to create a petition for XDA to contact Canonical on behalf of the members of the XDA forums, to offer our services to Canonical as Beta testers and to make Ubuntu compatible with our devices that we have in our possession. Android is great, but we still don't have the full power of our devices the way we are individuals are yearning for. Ubuntu to me is representing that freedom.
Your comments and thoughts are appreciative.
Hans-Erik
Count me in! I would like to port Ubuntu for my Xperia Neo xD
I'd love a port of some sort - would be willing to report bugs etc.
Well from what I have read Galaxy Nexus users will be able to install Ubuntu for Android on their device in the coming weeks, and with Ubuntus schedule I am guessing late February. Once the installer is out it will only be a matter of time before there are unofficial images for the SGS3 etc.
One thing I am looking forward to exploring is the porting of Android APKs to the Ububtu software.
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Hope the Galaxy Ace gets a port, I'll try it but I'm kinda worried about Androids apps on Ubuntu OS
Im sure that android apk wont work on ubuntu. Ubuntu has there own softwarecentre
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They said there OS I'd going to support android kernels
This post uses the patented TingTingin®™ method I would teach it to you but you are not yet worthy (come back in a hundred years)
I've definitely interested in getting my hands on it.
I would love a dual-boot on my Nexus 4 Count me in.
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me tooo..:good:
This thing does a very good job in handling one issue: fragmentation! I'm definitely going to test this out and try to port it to the I9100.
I want it in my Xperia PLAY :3
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Count me in!!! btw ive been thinking about doing the switch from windows 8 to Ubuntu 12.10 on my laptop and getting use to it, just not sure if it would benefit having Ubuntu on my Note 2 and Laptop in terms of any more than just sticking with windows 8 on my laptop. Anyone going through the same thoughts?
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Count me in!!! btw ive been thinking about doing the switch from windows 8 to Ubuntu 12.10 on my laptop and getting use to it, just not sure if it would benefit having Ubuntu on my Note 2 and Laptop in terms of any more than just sticking with windows 8 on my laptop. Anyone going through the same thoughts?
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I would say do it.....i did it a few years a go.....en will never turn back to windows.....the nice thing off ubuntu is ypu easly make a dualboot with windows on your pc...so yoi dont have to give op windows directly....after a while youl see that ubuntu is faster saver and very easy to use....and you start to use windows more less.....then you can decided if you completly delete lacky windows from your pc......with introducing ubuntu phone you will get a complete new experience...because you can use the apps on your phone aswell on you pc...and thats awesome.....
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Hey guys I've started a petition at change.org so of you are interested in getting their attention you should try and sign! Won't hurt to try!
https://www.change.org/petitions/ca...evelopers-com-as-testers-for-ubuntu-for-phone
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liawim said:
I would say do it.....i did it a few years a go.....en will never turn back to windows.....the nice thing off ubuntu is ypu easly make a dualboot with windows on your pc...so yoi dont have to give op windows directly....after a while youl see that ubuntu is faster saver and very easy to use....and you start to use windows more less.....then you can decided if you completly delete lacky windows from your pc......with introducing ubuntu phone you will get a complete new experience...because you can use the apps on your phone aswell on you pc...and thats awesome.....
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I think the longest period ive ever used Ubuntu after installing it was for a month after which i started getting frustrated due to the unavailability of certain programs that i used..not sure what release it was but it was at around the same time the iPhone 3G was released. I could get iTunes to work on it but it had to run through Wine and even then i had issues with the itunes recognizing the phone. Honestly, i felt like i had to go through 10 different steps to perform a simple task whereas on the windows it was as easy as installing and just running the program..quick and very convenient. But im sure those issues have long been tackled so ill still give it another try..i hope this time it would be worth it. Thanks for the input.
Nethojs29 said:
Hope the Galaxy Ace gets a port, I'll try it but I'm kinda worried about Androids apps on Ubuntu OS
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The ace cant run ubuntu.
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I'd like to see it on my Xperia sola. I think it would be great
And I don't know, but if it's a native OS it would work a few times more quickly that Android which is using a dalvik emulator. So it seems to be a great experience.
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EcHoFiiVe said:
Hey guys I've started a petition at change.org so of you are interested in getting their attention you should try and sign! Won't hurt to try!
https://www.change.org/petitions/ca...evelopers-com-as-testers-for-ubuntu-for-phone
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Not that I think it will make much a difference, but I did sign your petition. Source will be out soon and our guys over here will be all over it. I miss Ubuntu dearly, my companies software will only run from windows and worse yet internet explorer, so I cant wait for a couple of our awesome devs. to take a crack at this.
Hopefully Ubuntu for phones will make an even bigger hit than android and get more Americans running Ubuntu. Then maybe big corporations and companies will stop forcing its employees to use Micro$oft products.
bushako said:
I think the longest period ive ever used Ubuntu after installing it was for a month after which i started getting frustrated due to the unavailability of certain programs that i used..not sure what release it was but it was at around the same time the iPhone 3G was released. I could get iTunes to work on it but it had to run through Wine and even then i had issues with the itunes recognizing the phone. Honestly, i felt like i had to go through 10 different steps to perform a simple task whereas on the windows it was as easy as installing and just running the program..quick and very convenient. But im sure those issues have long been tackled so ill still give it another try..i hope this time it would be worth it. Thanks for the input.
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The trick with ubuntu is you dont want to learn how to use windows apps in ubuntu....but how to learn working with de apps those are provided in ubuntu....almost for 98% of the windows apps is a ubuntu alternative...learn to work with them and u dont need windows...
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Ubuntu Developer Preview DNA Compatibility

Anyone know if sideloading the Ubuntu Developer Preview would work with CWM on our phone?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBJ7U3omGps
We need to get a working CM build before we can do that. Currently, the N4 and GN builds are using a CM kernel as a base for the Ubuntu Dev preview. Theoretically, we can build something that boots (since we do have a booting CM build) it would lack a ton of things though such as voice and data.
If someone knows a bit more info, feel free to correct me.
The developer preview is limited in these functionalities anyway as far as I'm aware
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The developer preview is limited in these functionalities anyway as far as I'm aware
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It has no cdma or LTE compatibility as of now. Gsm only. There is an extensive list of known issues. Its pretty sweet though. Got it on my nexus 7.
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I think the dev preview is only for the nexus products for now. They will come out with more support later.
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I think the dev preview is only for the nexus products for now. They will come out with more support later.
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They have instructions for porting it to any device.
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to my knowledge the preview doesn't even have mobile data functionality for gsm for now its only wifi, text and calls
After watching several videos on Ubuntu, I'm both excited to try it, and little confused. In almost all videos, it looks almost exactly like Android. The task bar looks the same, it pulls down the same way, the icons look basically the same.
Don't get me wrong, I love having options, but it doesn't seem to be very unique.
Any thoughts on this?
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Serinety said:
After watching several videos on Ubuntu, I'm both excited to try it, and little confused. In almost all videos, it looks almost exactly like Android. The task bar looks the same, it pulls down the same way, the icons look basically the same.
Don't get me wrong, I love having options, but it doesn't seem to be very unique.
Any thoughts on this?
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There are several differences. First of all, the thing you will most readily notice is that there are not button/hardware or otherwise for the ubuntu phone OS, it uses gestures similar to the blackberry 10 OS. In some instances this is better at other times, it is nice to have a button. In the long term, your benefit will be the ability to have a larger screen on a smaller device since you won't have to have a longer device to accomadate the buttons.
From a more technical standpoint, using pure linux removes some of the more contentious parts of android like the use of Java. Some of which may provide a faster user experience on the same hardware if Ubuntu can manage to ditch xorg. You could also, argue that the app availability and scalability of ubuntu is greater than android. In other words, soon you'll be able to walk around with a linux device that you can plug into a monitor and blu-tooth keyboard and have a full fledge desktop all from the same hardware -- Carry one device - access it anywhere and in whatever capacity you need it at that time.
Put it on my galaxy nexus it's not really all that it is fun to play with but I had problems with calls. DNA is much better but stock android will make this the best device all day. If only it had the front stereo speakers powered by beats this phone would never need to be upgraded
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It has no cdma or LTE compatibility as of now. Gsm only. There is an extensive list of known issues. Its pretty sweet though. Got it on my nexus 7.
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And how do you feel about it so far? Been thinking about doing the same thing with my N7..... but not having the ability to use my already purchased apps and what not is deterring me at the moment.
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And how do you feel about it so far? Been thinking about doing the same thing with my N7..... but not having the ability to use my already purchased apps and what not is deterring me at the moment.
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I love the look of ubuntu as an OS, and this kind if follows suit. It is buggy as hell though. I no longer am using it. Its fun to tinker with but that's about it.
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idkwhothatis123 said:
I love the look of ubuntu as an OS, and this kind if follows suit. It is buggy as hell though. I no longer am using it. Its fun to tinker with but that's about it.
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I guess we'll have to see when it stabilizes whether it's worthy of replacing OG Android

Nexus 5?

Any active support for the nexus 5?
SuperMiguel said:
Any active support for the nexus 5?
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+ 1 ! ! ! Loved using it on my Nexus 4 & GS III, would lo e to see it available for the nexus 4 !*
+1
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Is Ubuntu touch still using android as a base? I wonder how hard that would make this port considering the source available for the n5 is 4.4.
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quinman22 said:
Is Ubuntu touch still using android as a base? I wonder how hard that would make this port considering the source available for the n5 is 4.4.
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Ubuntu Touch has never used android as a base, you may be talking about this:
In the original porting guide, we had Android as the main OS, having Ubuntu separated in a container. We had that as our first solution as it's easier to just boot Android and bootstrap Ubuntu once Android is up and running (which was a base requirement for Touch). This architecture was traditionally called 'unflipped', and it's part of the raring and first saucy images we produced.
As we continued developing the platform, more issues we found with such architecture, making it harder to improve the quality for the Ubuntu side (ueventd x udev, full control of the services, upgradability of the compat layer, etc). So to be able to further improve the Touch images, we decided to flip the systems, making Ubuntu as the main host, and separating Android in a container, getting us to what we call 'flipped' images.
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In any case the support will come in time, probably not from Canonical though, as they are quite busy at the moment If you want to read more about what is required in porting Ubunu Touch to a device check out this guide. (sorry for the formatting, I'm apparently not yet allowed to post links)
wiki.ubuntu . com/Touch/Porting#Touch_Developer_Preview_-_Porting_Guide_2.0
cynicist said:
Ubuntu Touch has never used android as a base, you may be talking about this:
In any case the support will come in time, probably not from Canonical though, as they are quite busy at the moment If you want to read more about what is required in porting Ubunu Touch to a device check out this guide. (sorry for the formatting, I'm apparently not yet allowed to post links)
wiki.ubuntu . com/Touch/Porting#Touch_Developer_Preview_-_Porting_Guide_2.0
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Yes I looked at that link, unfortunately after I posted that misinformed tidbit, thanks!
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Just realized I had written that I loved using it on my Nexus 5 lol obviously I meant Nexus 4, I wanna use it on my nexus 5 or Note 3 &/or 8
Even on my G2 would be nice (I am a phone/tablet collector lol everyone tells me I have way too many. But my a phone collection is tame compared to my guitar collection )
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anything new on nexus 5?
XDA Developers has a news section. There was a post here. It states:
Not much is needed to get started. You need to be running Android 4.2 or higher on an AOSP-derived ROM, 2.7 GB of free space, ADB on your desktop and your phone’s bootloader must be unlocked. Currently, this has only been tested by Canonical on the Google Nexus 4, but they state that other Nexus devices should work as well.
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It should work but it is risky.
codemonkey98 said:
XDA Developers has a news section. There was a post here. It states:
It should work but it is risky.
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but it doesnt work
miHah said:
but it doesnt work
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I'd assume the team is working on it. After all it is a Nexus device.
codemonkey98 said:
I'd assume the team is working on it. After all it is a Nexus device.
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I imagine they actually don't, I think at this point they have at least one handset lined up and are focusing development towards that unannounced device.
I do think someone is working on this in their spare time though
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Chuckatron said:
I imagine they actually don't, I think at this point they have at least one handset lined up and are focusing development towards that unannounced device.
I do think someone is working on this in their spare time though
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The Nexus line is the only true device they are supporting at this moment. You can find a list here with the devices that are/not on the official Ubuntu site.
I doubt we're going to be seeing another Ubuntu Edge coming out. That failed unfortunately but ti was a good project.
codemonkey98 said:
The Nexus line is the only true device they are supporting at this moment. You can find a list here with the devices that are/not on the official Ubuntu site.
I doubt we're going to be seeing another Ubuntu Edge coming out. That failed unfortunately but ti was a good project.
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Maybe you missed the news: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57615107-94/ubuntu-touch-os-wins-its-first-smartphone-partner/
Slinkwyde said:
Maybe you missed the news: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57615107-94/ubuntu-touch-os-wins-its-first-smartphone-partner/
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It is a business partner, so I'd assume that business partner is making the devices. Ubuntu Edge was supposed to be the team's first device with Ubuntu, but that KicKStarter project failed. But thanks for giving me that information. I personally haven' been following the foot steps of the development of Ubuntu Touch OS in awhile.
I'm thinking this may be the issue:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DualB...phone_calls_to_work_in_Ubuntu_and_Android_4.4
The radio image shipped with Android 4.4 is reused on the Ubuntu side to make phone calls or use WiFi or sound, and it is not yet supported in Ubuntu.
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If the radio currently isn't supported, we would kind of be SOL even with it booted up. They mention a fix, but that requires using a 4.3 radio, something not available to us.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49168595&postcount=34
I think I'll just drop that there.
I think that sums it up.
EDIT (13/01/2013 - 16:33):
According to OMGUbuntu! (http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/01/ubuntu-touch-wont-support-nexus-5-will-drop-support-nexus-7-10) there will be NO official support for the Nexus 5. Though considering how awesome XDA is, I doubt that will put the determined off. Here's to an unofficial Nexus 5 ROM with convergence included!
Shiggity said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49168595&postcount=34
I think I'll just drop that there.
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I definitely think that sums it up, Shiggity.
I too have recently grabbed a Nexus 5. I really look forward to when we get a ROM for it because I really want to try it out. I think through patience I will be rewarded.
According to the irc channel, it's being developed.
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