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I have a 5-6 year old media net unlimited plan $20 from AT&T which I got when I was using a Motorola MPX220. After that phone I used unlocked smartphones (tilt - UK version and tilt2 - Australian version).
Is there any way to keep this plan after buying this phone? Can I be grandfathered in or is that only possible with the $30 data plans?
no more media net
you WILL get switched to a $25 plan
fincan said:
I have a 5-6 year old media net unlimited plan $20 from AT&T which I got when I was using a Motorola MPX220. After that phone I used unlocked smartphones (tilt - UK version and tilt2 - Australian version).
Is there any way to keep this plan after buying this phone? Can I be grandfathered in or is that only possible with the $30 data plans?
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Buy the phone with no commitment and you can use it.
lsxrx7 said:
no more media net
you WILL get switched to a $25 plan
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What plan is the $25 plan?
harolds said:
Buy the phone with no commitment and you can use it.
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That is what I did. I have the same plan, if I get a contract I lose my unlimited plan.
No its possible. ATT will recognize your imei number and bump you to a data plan. You have to buy a phone that is not in ATT system such as bell version of atrix. Other wise no chance.
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okay so between James62370 and sl8125, one of you is spreading FUD.
it seems like for one person it works but according to another, it wouldnt. whats up with that?
i have a $10 unlimited data plan for messaging phones that i am currently using with a no commitment TILT2 and the phone prior to that was an iphone 2g.
so James62370, it works? if you buy the phone no commitment?
You wil get switched to a smartphone data plan if you use a smartphone they recognise the imei number of.
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You wil get switched to a smartphone data plan if you use a smartphone they recognise the imei number of.
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That's what I said. Anyways even some n1 user have been switched over. I am just one of those lucky one.
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Ok ... here is how you can see if you can keep your old plan:
Check the features you have on your line ... If you have a feature called "Smartphone Exclusion" then no matter what ... AT&T wont be able to put the required data plans on you line automatically (the $15 or $25 / month)
If you have unlimited texting for the family as well ... then by providing a non-smartphone IMEI for your line you can get unlimited internet for $10/month.
hgn842001 said:
Ok ... here is how you can see if you can keep your old plan:
Check the features you have on your line ... If you have a feature called "Smartphone Exclusion" then no matter what ... AT&T wont be able to put the required data plans on you line automatically (the $15 or $25 / month)
If you have unlimited texting for the family as well ... then by providing a non-smartphone IMEI for your line you can get unlimited internet for $10/month.
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I can confirm this as well. I spoke to an AT&T rep last night and he explained to me that all of my phones have "Data Exclusion", and that even if I bought the Atrix at the 2-year contract price from AT&T's website, it would not be able to apply a smartphone data plan to my account. I have the Media Net plan on one number with the Tilt 2, and no data on line 2, and I bought the Aria for line 2 and they did not apply any data to it.
He did warn me that if I made any changes to the data features on any phone I MIGHT lose the data exclusion, and that if I bought a phone from an AT&T store the rep might screw up and add the data, since Data Exclusion is such a rare feature, but that if I bought online the system would just leave me alone.
Now I just need to know if "4G" data works on the old Media Net plans.
blognc said:
Now I just need to know if "4G" data works on the old Media Net plans.
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Theres no real 4g anyways
just use the standard APN that was posted here for "unlimited tethering"
Since I have been on the phone with ATT for the last 3 days it has been one thing after another..first data issues coming from the iPhone they switched me over to a 2GB cap called them up they "fixed it" (basically added the smartphone pack. Yesterday got a few calls at work I let them go to VM...so i thought. Somehow my VM got messed up had to call about that. This morning I didn't get one text from anyone found a bit odd since me and the wife text a lot during work when we can. Checked online I had no text plan??? WTF!?? Called them up and guess what I had an older 1500 text plan they don't offer that so i cant get it...really?? come on ATT I just bought a phone no contract nothing should have changed.
So as of now everything seems ok, still working have a case open for my text plan and have gotten some credit back for the data stuff. But really i should have never gone through this whole mess when all I did was buy a phone out right and put my old sim in it.
sl8125 said:
No its possible. ATT will recognize your imei number and bump you to a data plan. You have to buy a phone that is not in ATT system such as bell version of atrix. Other wise no chance.
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AT&T recognizes the IMEI on all of their iphones. When I put my sim into my friends iphone, it asked me to update my data plan. Obviously, I did not...
It works on the Atrix, though I don't doubt if AT&T knew which phone I had, they would probably want me to upgrade. I asked a rep many years ago, they said I have some sort of legacy feature grandfathered in, but if I make any type of changes to my plan, I would lose it. I cannot remember what they call it. Thus I cannot purchase a phone with an AT&T contract. Pretty lame, but that has been my experience and what I have been told. Not all reps know what they are talking about.
I'm not here to argue with anyone. I know which plan I have, and I know I have an Atrix. All I did was take my sim from my old phone out and put it into my new Atrix and it works without complaining for me to upgrade my data plan.
However, I am not impress with the HSUPA speeds, and it seems everyone has the same issue whether they are on a $30 unlimited plan, or $20 medianet bundle.
I hope this helps, good luck guys!
Well, I don't see anything called "Smartphone Exclusion" in either of my lines (this is a 2 line family plan, only my phone has the medianet unlimited).
I guess I'll need to wait and buy a Bell Canada version of the phone?
If you are checking it online, it doesn't show as a regular feature. There is a link that shows "other features" ... or just call them up and ask if you have it.
I did upgrade one of my lines, they added $15 in the store. I just called them and got that off of the line, luckily the smart phone exclusion did not go away!
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The smartphone exclusion feature only covers you for your current device. If you put your SIM into a phone that Att recognizes as a valid smartphone that is different than the one you currently have on file, your grandfather status is gone and you get a smartphone data plan. Happened to a few people I know. No commitment pricing has nothing to do with it, since its in the Att terms of service, I think. If you are getting grandfather status back, the sales people are likely making exceptions.
i dont know but Mine too is media net plan since touch pro 2, nexus one, captivate and atrix.
My co-worker complained to AT&T and they grandfathered him into the unlimed data plan.
Gervin said:
My co-worker complained to AT&T and they grandfathered him into the unlimed data plan.
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Did he buy the phone subsidized or off the contract? And can you learn if he complained after he got the phone and AT&T automatically switched him to the limited plan?
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Can somebody tell me if the gophone plan for 50$ works and does it have internet?
Thanks.
Mom's AT&T go-phone ($25 plan) runs on call minutes. Not sure about $50 plan or T-Mobile, but I think internet is a no-go on go-phone.
Of course, you could go Google go-phone and find out... I just wanted to say no-go go-phone...
Since GoPhone is an AT&T service:
1) No need to unlock. However:
2) AT&T will detect that it is a smartphone based on IMEI and will block the $50 unlimited plan.
Entropy512 said:
Since GoPhone is an AT&T service:
1) No need to unlock. However:
2) AT&T will detect that it is a smartphone based on IMEI and will block the $50 unlimited plan.
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Tmobile does the same... I have [email protected] phone with tmobile unlimited plan with tzone but it only gets edge.. And I want to move to 3g or 4g data. I am looking into this http://www.straighttalk.com/
It appears to be a great and cheap unlimited plan, do not know if it will work with 3g or 4g network..
secret GoPhone user? Entropy?!?
I didn't start that rumor...
Najuto9tail said:
Tmobile does the same... I have [email protected] phone with tmobile unlimited plan with tzone but it only gets edge.. And I want to move to 3g or 4g data. I am looking into this http://www.straighttalk.com/
It appears to be a great and cheap unlimited plan, do not know if it will work with 3g or 4g network..
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It's possible but difficult. The carrier used by ST varies from phone to phone - some are T-Mo, some are AT&T, some are CDMA!
Also, many have SIMs that are device-locked (kind of the opposite of a SIMlocked device).
As I understand it, there are two $200 Nokia models that you can purchase which have non-locked AT&T-compatible SIMs. These will work in unlocked (and maybe locked?) AT&T phones. HOWEVER - you must NEVER activate another SIM in the original Nokia - if you do, your old SIM will get deactivated. So the $200 Nokia needs to sit collecting dust.
A few guys in the Infuse forums did this, I never did though.
Entropy512 said:
It's possible but difficult. The carrier used by ST varies from phone to phone - some are T-Mo, some are AT&T, some are CDMA!
Also, many have SIMs that are device-locked (kind of the opposite of a SIMlocked device).
As I understand it, there are two $200 Nokia models that you can purchase which have non-locked AT&T-compatible SIMs. These will work in unlocked (and maybe locked?) AT&T phones. HOWEVER - you must NEVER activate another SIM in the original Nokia - if you do, your old SIM will get deactivated. So the $200 Nokia needs to sit collecting dust.
A few guys in the Infuse forums did this, I never did though.
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I had a conversation via email with support from straight talk and they will send me a sim card for use with at&t network using their 45$ unlimited plan. They explained to me with details how it works and I am really happy for their support.
Compared to the offer they give here where I live 50+ 25 of data= 75$ and the same with them for 45. I am saving 30$ every month.
Najuto9tail said:
I had a conversation via email with support from straight talk and they will send me a sim card for use with at&t network using their 45$ unlimited plan. They explained to me with details how it works and I am really happy for their support.
Compared to the offer they give here where I live 50+ 25 of data= 75$ and the same with them for 45. I am saving 30$ every month.
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Wait... They sent you a SIM card to use with an arbitrary smartphone???
That surprises me...
gotta watch data usage tho on st. theyll kill the card first time warning then they kill the phone
Entropy512 said:
Wait... They sent you a SIM card to use with an arbitrary smartphone???
That surprises me...
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yeah they advertise this every where....
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Najuto9tail said:
I had a conversation via email with support from straight talk and they will send me a sim card for use with at&t network using their 45$ unlimited plan. They explained to me with details how it works and I am really happy for their support.
Compared to the offer they give here where I live 50+ 25 of data= 75$ and the same with them for 45. I am saving 30$ every month.
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If you don't mind, can you pls post the ST info in detail?
I've never heard of ST until lately but couldn't find any info about it.
All I know that people keep saying ST has $45/month UNLIMITED but have no clue how that unlimited got defined.
Thanks
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Got it here, StraigthTalk plan but still wondering it is truly unlimited or any restriction behind.
I but the One outright at the T-Mo store today. I'm new to T-Mo. I want to use it with the prepaid plan. However, when I'm going online to activate the SIM that came with it, they ask for an activate code. Can't find that anywhere in the box, can anyone help?
How much did you pay for it?
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$609 (before tax). Why?
The code is on the sim card that the sim was attached to, the barcode #'s at the bottom on the back
Joshnor713 said:
I but the One outright at the T-Mo store today. I'm new to T-Mo. I want to use it with the prepaid plan. However, when I'm going online to activate the SIM that came with it, they ask for an activate code. Can't find that anywhere in the box, can anyone help?
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i assume your going to run the 30$ - 100min, unlimited txt, unlimited data (up to 5g) plan and use a VOIP service like grooveIP to tunnel through for phone service?
i've heard some widely varying stories about that. some say it works fine some say theres alot of lag and quality is quite poor. I'm not sure but i use my stuff for work so i cant take that chance.
Let me know how it goes if that IS the way your going
-Ed
syaoran68 said:
i assume your going to run the 30$ - 100min, unlimited txt, unlimited data (up to 5g) plan and use a VOIP service like grooveIP to tunnel through for phone service?
i've heard some widely varying stories about that. some say it works fine some say theres alot of lag and quality is quite poor. I'm not sure but i use my stuff for work so i cant take that chance.
Let me know how it goes if that IS the way your going
-Ed
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Grooveip didn't work well for me. Talkatone was much better. Vonage was decent too.
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C Murder said:
The code is on the sim card that the sim was attached to, the barcode #'s at the bottom on the back
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The SIM code is different from the activation code. I'm starting to think the box didn't come with an activation code, because they expect the rep to activate it to their "plan" when you get it. Going to go to the store later today.
Joshnor713 said:
I but the One outright at the T-Mo store today. I'm new to T-Mo. I want to use it with the prepaid plan. However, when I'm going online to activate the SIM that came with it, they ask for an activate code. Can't find that anywhere in the box, can anyone help?
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Did they SIM unlock it for you or is it locked to T-Mo still?
phositadc said:
Did they SIM unlock it for you or is it locked to T-Mo still?
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They didn't SIM unlock it, but does it matter for now, since I'm going to use it on T-Mo? Apologies if that ends up being a stupid question. I've always been on CDMA, so new to dealing with SIM's
Update: I didn't know the $30 prepaid plan was only available online, this is why you cannot activate it in the store. I just purchased the activation kit for $10 and I'm going to activate it online when it comes.
Guess I'm gonna have to keep using my old phone for a couple days longer . Just wish I knew these prior to buying the new phone so I would've been ready. So convoluted T-Mo!
Joshnor713 said:
Update: I didn't know the $30 prepaid plan was only available online, this is why you cannot activate it in the store. I just purchased the activation kit for $10 and I'm going to activate it online when it comes.
Guess I'm gonna have to keep using my old phone for a couple days longer . Just wish I knew these prior to buying the new phone so I would've been ready. So convoluted T-Mo!
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If you already have a blank SIM card all you need is the activation code that's on the booklet labeled Activation Card. I have 3 activation codes that came with SIMs I used to replace my old SIM cards. PM me if you or any one needs one.
They had one but I would have to change to everything plan. Is it really worth it to lose my unimited data and off contract on two devices just for this watch???
ronaldheld said:
They had one but I would have to change to everything plan. Is it really worth it to lose my unimited data and off contract on two devices just for this watch???
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I dont think so. just wait to buy it outright.
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I dont think so. just wait to buy it outright.
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They will not let me do that as it changes my unlimited data plan. I would pay retail price to do so if I were allowed.
ronaldheld said:
They will not let me do that as it changes my unlimited data plan. I would pay retail price to do so if I were allowed.
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Hell NO don't give up your unlimited data for that damn watch what is wrong with you unless you are not a data hog and you don't mind paying overages for your devices
I am looking for opinions before making a rash decision. I appreciate the previous comments and am looking for others.
Edit: a store rep did some research. I can keep the unlimited for my phone if I buy the gear s as a separate device paying $25/month with no 2 year contract.
I am wondering if this would work. I have a at&t galaxy s5 and want to buy a nano sim adapter. http://microsim-shop.com/
i would buy the watch off contract. When I want to take just my watch I pop in the nano sim and go, when I want my phone, I put the nano sim in the adapter for the s5.
This way I won't lose my unlimited data, wonder if it will work?
ampm325 said:
I am wondering if this would work. I have a at&t galaxy s5 and want to buy a nano sim adapter. http://microsim-shop.com/
i would buy the watch off contract. When I want to take just my watch I pop in the nano sim and go, when I want my phone, I put the nano sim in the adapter for the s5.
This way I won't lose my unlimited data, wonder if it will work?
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Good question. Anyone know? I have a couple of weeks to decide.
ronaldheld said:
I am looking for opinions before making a rash decision. I appreciate the previous comments and am looking for others.
Edit: a store rep did some research. I can keep the unlimited for my phone if I buy the gear s as a separate device paying $25/month with no 2 year contract.
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So with 25$ a month no contract would you just pay 25$ what ever month you needed it? or ,,,
Uniquebarbee said:
So with 25$ a month no contract would you just pay 25$ what ever month you needed it? or ,,,
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Yes as far as I was told by the store sales rep. I do not want to be locked into a two year contract with smartphones/watches evolving so quickly. For all I know I will use the gear s for a while and find it is not worth having or paying $25/month. I still should be able to connect via Bluetooth at no Verizon cost.
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Yes as far as I was told by the store sales rep. I do not want to be locked into a two year contract with smartphones/watches evolving so quickly. For all I know I will use the gear s for a while and find it is not worth having or paying $25/month. I still should be able to connect via Bluetooth at no Verizon cost.
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I agree I just bought from AT&T outright I have Sprint I'm just going to bluetooth for free and put my google voice number on the watch I think I can do that we will see. If not I will see if a pre-paid sim straighttalk net1o something with At&T If I feel the need to talk w/o phone
Uniquebarbee said:
I agree I just bought from AT&T outright I have Sprint I'm just going to bluetooth for free and put my google voice number on the watch I think I can do that we will see. If not I will see if a pre-paid sim straighttalk net1o something with At&T If I feel the need to talk w/o phone
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I really want a standalone device at least to see if it is viable as such. I can always go the Bluetooth route but it might be harder the other way as Verizon plans change.
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I really want a standalone device at least to see if it is viable as such. I can always go the Bluetooth route but it might be harder the other way as Verizon plans change.
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I see what your saying
I am waiting to see a full review of the watch and the gear manager to appear in the Play store for my Note 4. I also cannot afford it plus the time in the store until later this month.
Gear Manager wont be in the play store its on Galaxy App store.
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I'm told you can add the gear s to a grandfathered family plan with the old data lines 9.99 + 20/300mb 30/3gb 50/5gb. Im waiting to buy one off contract and put one of my unlimited line's sim card in it. There's no reason it shouldn't work unless they have the gear imei's flagged (like a tablet in an unlim phone plan). I haven't found anyone saying they've done it yet though.
No sim card in Verizon's version. I will see what I can get out of the sales rep when I buy it for retail price.
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No sim card in Verizon's version. I will see what I can get out of the sales rep when I buy it for retail price.
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cool let us know
I gave up my unlimited plan. I save 100 bucks a. On the for 4 lines. ATT throttles you after 3gb of data use to 2G speed.
marinefighter said:
I gave up my unlimited plan. I save 100 bucks a. On the for 4 lines. ATT throttles you after 3gb of data use to 2G speed.
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I decided that unlimited data was more important. If i cannot keep it, , no Gear S.
I have verizon service If I wanted to use the device just paired to my phone no sim card could I get a T-mobile Version of the gear as it is bit cheaper off contract then the vzw version
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jolly_roger_hook said:
I have verizon service If I wanted to use the device just paired to my phone no sim card could I get a T-mobile Version of the gear as it is bit cheaper off contract then the vzw version
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Yes you could, hell I believe the t-mobile data plan is only like $15 off contract but yes, without a Sim it would work fine just over Bluetooth or wifi.
If that's is all you are going to do with it. Att has it for 300 I believe the cheapest of all the carriers. That is what I did...with a option to go sim if I want.
unless you plan on rooting or anything like that, then go T-Mobile, their mobile plan is by far the cheapest (if u use it) and it's not worth the $40 savings to buy an att watch and then a t-mobile sim when u want service.
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unless you plan on rooting or anything like that, then go T-Mobile, their mobile plan is by far the cheapest (if u use it) and it's not worth the $40 savings to buy an att watch and then a t-mobile sim when u want service.
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Lol...true unless you are talking coverage...att blows tmobile out of the water. They can always go h2o...etc which uses att towers for emergencies.
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Lol...true unless you are talking coverage...att blows tmobile out of the water. They can always go h2o...etc which uses att towers for emergencies.
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I guess it depends where the op lives , I went from AT&T to T-Mobile and don't have issues, but I do live in an area that has good coverage. price wise, t-mobile is much cheaper than AT&T for me at least and unlimited lte is nice, the wife alone uses like 15gb a month.
Yea but we talking watch here not phones...lte speed on phones is nice to have not that much on watches....besides since now if you buy "out right" you get the "unlock sims code". Wow 15g.....I am lucky to use 500m if that on the phone.
Other options are if they decide to get a plan:
300 att (coverage) = att/tmobile
put on friends att plan 10/month
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350 tmobile (price)=tmobile/att
put on friends tmobile plan 5/month.
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Yea but we talking watch here not phones...lte speed on phones is nice to have not that much on watches....besides since now if you buy "out right" you get the "unlock sims code". Wow 15g.....I am lucky to use 500m if that on the phone.
Other options are if they decide to get a plan:
300 att (coverage) = att/tmobile
put on friends att plan 10/month
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350 tmobile (price)=tmobile/att
put on friends tmobile plan 5/month.
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yeah, about that.... every member that I know with an unlocked att watch trying to use another provider has ended up with that mm6 error, I dont know whether they got it resolved or not. The whole family share thing and all that jazz is just confusing. I have been off bluetooth for quite a while at times and I dont think Ive used any data. When I first got my plan and saw it was 500mb for the watch, I kind of panicked but 3 months in and barely used more than 20mb , its all good.
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yeah, about that.... every member that I know with an unlocked att watch trying to use another provider has ended up with that mm6 error, I dont know whether they got it resolved or not. The whole family share thing and all that jazz is just confusing. I have been off bluetooth for quite a while at times and I dont think Ive used any data. When I first got my plan and saw it was 500mb for the watch, I kind of panicked but 3 months in and barely used more than 20mb , its all good.
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That is so strange....about the mm6 error......have no issues with that what so ever...I pop in my tmobile card that I don't have active select tmobile and can make calls .......of course I get the tmobile cust servc since I am not a cust....but I am registered to the network and all is good. I must be one of the lucky ones.
Same here on the watch data since I am on h2o for emergencies I too was worried, but the gs eats data like a bird your lucky to hit 100m a month.
thanks
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Yes you could, hell I believe the t-mobile data plan is only like $15 off contract but yes, without a Sim it would work fine just over Bluetooth or wifi.
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thanks for that post I am looking to do the same but I want to try to use a prepaid sim on an international unlocked 750W do you know if anyone has tried this?