Coming from an iphone 4s to sgs2 and now to xps... Man... Charging is a pain for andriods phones... Xps is a great phone.. But got to get use to the slow charging and lousy battery life...
How many time since you first turned on your XS?
If you say something that is less than 2 weeks, man, you gotta be kiddin me.
I'm gonna create a topic with capital letters to everyone who is complaining about the battery. You're making storm for nothing.
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hexproject said:
Coming from an iphone 4s to sgs2 and now to xps... Man... Charging is a pain for andriods phones... Xps is a great phone.. But got to get use to the slow charging and lousy battery life...
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Mine is fine and i have had mine for 2 days
I got mine a week ago and the battery life has improved and it charges up quicker over the week.
Just use for a while and it should get better.
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My phone takes about 2 hours and 20 mins to charge from 5% to 100%. That's pretty decent, isn't it?
It does charge slowly if you keep the screen on and use its multimedia functions, as I suspect the drain is substantial, but if simply on standby, mine charges reasonably quickly.
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It does charge slowly if you keep the screen on and use its multimedia functions, as I suspect the drain is substantial, but if simply on standby, mine charges reasonably quickly.
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2nd that!
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I found charging from usb port is very slow. Try use the charger, it will be fast.
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It does charge slowly if you keep the screen on and use its multimedia functions, as I suspect the drain is substantial, but if simply on standby, mine charges reasonably quickly.
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3rd that
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lol i used a tablet usb port and it charges from 15%-100% in around 90mins
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I use the bundled charger and it takes 1hr 15 minutes from 0 to 100. MUCH faster than the iPhone4 I used to use.
For the first week the charging is very slow, then it will go faster, same for the battery duration, I think it' just a battery calibration ^ ^
I charge XS with 2A-output charger
and Modify Micro-USB Cable ....D+ / D- 2pin short
The Cable only have Charing Function
now XS can enable Quick-Charing...Charing with 1.4A
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the cable...
5% to 100%
In like 1hr - 1hr15min
SE EP850 Charger
Ya, mine no longer charges from PC USB when PC is sleeping. When PC is awake the charging is way too slow. My old HD2 could charge fine from PC and this saves me from having to plug in its dedicated charger to power socket.
Hmm, im reading that most of you get a full charge, from 0%, in just about 1 hour. Mine is taking 2 hours, why is that? I've had the phone for a week.
EP800 charger maybe?
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Ya, mine no longer charges from PC USB when PC is sleeping. When PC is awake the charging is way too slow. My old HD2 could charge fine from PC and this saves me from having to plug in its dedicated charger to power socket.
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I believe you can pull from 100 to 400 mA from the USB port on a computer.
And the wall charger should put out at least double that. So ofcourse a charge will be slower when you can't pump as much juice into the battery as you can with a dedicated wall charger.
You can on some mainboards let the USB ports stay alive while the rest of the system is a sleep. But sure it's only logical that when you put your computer to sleep, so will the USB ports.
HD2 is able to get charged through USB when PC is asleep, but not XS. For those who're interested.
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HD2 is able to get charged through USB when PC is asleep, but not XS. For those who're interested.
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I'm not. But maybe the HTC HD2 users will care.
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So, first let me say the XRON CM7 is amazing and big thanks to leoisright for working so hard to bring us to a beta version. Now I know in the early versions of the CM7 alphas there were some people having SOD problems and even some that could not charge there touchpad and had to send it back for service.
So for all those that are on the fence, because of this, lets lay this out there and use personal experiences to help. Please share:
- how do you charge your unit, USB stock charger or touchstone
- do you charge in WebOS, or while in the Android operating system
- have you ever drained your battery and were able to charge it normally?
Feel free to share any other battery issues or tips to increase battery life, specifically XRON
My own experience is:
-i haven't let the battery drain fully since being on XRON CM7 Rom, and I charge in WebOS, with touchstone charger. Battery life has been awesome with moderate usage.
Thanks to all that share
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Anyone?
How do u guys charge ur TP? And in what operating system?
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I always charge mine within Android, using the stock charger. A standard charger (like my Droid X) has a lower output (I never though .3 volts would make a difference) and it takes forever to charge.
Haven't ran the battery down yet since using XRON.
I charge in both systems with the stock wall charger.
I get better battery life in webOS. No exact #, but I probably get 1 more hour using it similarly. I've found that I'm using webOS more. Probably about 65/35. If I could only have one os, I'd probably choose webOS, though I've used Android a lot longer.
I'm running OTA 3.0.4, Uberkernal @ 1.5 max and 192 min. In android it's CM7 Xronified, vB1.1, oc to 1.5 max and 384 min.
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I always charge mine within Android, using the stock charger. A standard charger (like my Droid X) has a lower output (I never though .3 volts would make a difference) and it takes forever to charge.
Haven't ran the battery down yet since using XRON.
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O yeah makes a huge difference
Does anyone have a touchstone, I'm curious how induction charging reacts in android.
I use a combination of both standard wall charger and touchstone, whichever happens to be nearest at the time. At night it gets put on the touchstone so I start each day with a topped up battery.
I never let the battery get lower then 20% and always run Xron.
I have WiFi on all the time and Bluetooth on when out and about to enable navigation.
10 hours is just about possible from full.
That's more than enough for "allday use".
Great thanks, im trying it on the touchstone now under the android system.
The touchstone is so much more convenient way to charge.
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I use a combination of both standard wall charger and touchstone, whichever happens to be nearest at the time. At night it gets put on the touchstone so I start each day with a topped up battery.
I never let the battery get lower then 20% and always run Xron.
I have WiFi on all the time and Bluetooth on when out and about to enable navigation.
10 hours is just about possible from full.
That's more than enough for "allday use".
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according to engadget experiments, Touchpad has about 8 hrs of battery if you use it continuously..so if we are getting 10 hrs on it then i thinks it good enough...
I use it for around 3-4 hrs daily on android and charge once in 2-3 days....but it always connected to WIFI...
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according to engadget experiments, Touchpad has about 8 hrs of battery if you use it continuously..so if we are getting 10 hrs on it then i thinks it good enough...
I use it for around 3-4 hrs daily on android and charge once in 2-3 days....but it always connected to WIFI...
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I can see how 8 hrs would be appropriate for non stop use, but, in all honesty my usage is on and off all day. I resently read via kindle reader for 6 hrs at a stretch and had over 30% still showing.
One thing I do believe is that the battery satus monitor (like all devices on android ROMs) is wildly innacurate and definitive values can only ever be established by comparative clinical "lab" tests.
I'm on Xron latest and getting great battery life.
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So I charged for the first time my tp in android with the touchstone and it works great. After full charge and heavy usage I received almost 17 hours with 20% battery left.
why doesn't the battery charge while it is plugged in while I'm watching a movie or talking to somebody online it's ridiculous amber light never turned green only when it sitting idle
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Most likely because what you're doing, especially the movies is drawing more power than what's actually being pumped into the battery. Get battery monitor widget by "3c" in the market. Very very detailed info about your battery. Ish you never even thought about/existed. Haha. Its very helpful.
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How is it being charged? USB or AC... The answer is important, as USB only charges half as fast as AC.
Regardless, the reason is that if you are using the phone heavily, you are using a lot of power. If you are using a lot of power, you may be using all or almost all of the power coming from the charger just to operate the phone.
I have seen power use rates when using the phone heavily that are around 700mA, that is more than the 500mA that you get when charging via USB, and almost as much as the 1000mA that AC provides.
Heck, I have seen power use rates that are up to 1100mA a few times. That is higher than even the AC input.
Here is a screen shot of my charging over the last 12 days. I have NEVER gotten 1k+ (results may vary. As to why, stated in the following) you can see on the bottom screen the max mA peeked at 972. USB doesn't charge at "half" the mA as wall chargers. I thought that too, but did some tests (while VERY bored at work. Haha) and have seen 600 to around 800 mA. It varies on a number of things.
Ie: the USB cord itself. As some are designed for data only or faster transfer rates rather that charging taking priority. (charging light may be on, but thats just because it knows somethings plugged in. Or you could just have a Bonk one. They're are MANY different USB cables today.
The phones kernel, because you'll notice when the phone is damn near dead, USB or wall, will charge at a higher mA and fluctuate at different battery percentages.
A good/stock kernel will charge super fast when battery is very low to get you somewhat charged quickly. Then in the upper percentages it should slow way down especially in the high 90%'s to effectively complete/finish out the charge rather than just throwing rediculous power into the battery across the whole process. Also what other stuff you may have turned on, on the phone like "enable always on mobile data" may be detrimental. Hope this helps man.
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Here is a screen shot of my charging over the last 12 days. I have NEVER gotten 1k+ (results may vary. As to why, stated in the following) you can see on the bottom screen the max mA peeked at 972. USB doesn't charge at "half" the mA as wall chargers. I thought that too, but did some tests (while VERY bored at work. Haha) and have seen 600 to around 800 mA. It varies on a number of things.
Ie: the USB cord itself. As some are designed for data only or faster transfer rates rather that charging taking priority. (charging light may be on, but thats just because it knows somethings plugged in. Or you could just have a Bonk one. They're are MANY different USB cables today.
The phones kernel, because you'll notice when the phone is damn near dead, USB or wall, will charge at a higher mA and fluctuate at different battery percentages.
A good/stock kernel will charge super fast when battery is very low to get you somewhat charged quickly. Then in the upper percentages it should slow way down especially in the high 90%'s to effectively complete/finish out the charge rather than just throwing rediculous power into the battery across the whole process. Also what other stuff you may have turned on, on the phone like "enable always on mobile data" may be detrimental. Hope this helps man. View attachment 895606
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It was only a few times I noticed the power use that high.
USB can vary, but general rule is 500mA can be counted on as that is the max that the standard provides.
All charge rates will vary. The main problem is the fact that we usually charge a device that is powered on. The varied power use will cause fluctuations in charge rate.
I need to research more into how Li-Ion charges when the device is still in use. I do know how they charge when not in use, and all the little details of it. The biggest problem is that powered on really messes with how a Li-Ion battery can charge.
I need to get out my stand alone computerized Li-Ion battery charger and do some testing. I have been wondering exactly how much these batteries hold if actually charged properly. Too bad that the Stock OEM batteries are 3.8v nominal, they charge to a higher overall voltage and my charger is not set up to handle the new voltage so I couldn't charge the stock to a real 100%.
if u charge by AC with a 1000 mA you should be fine
Are you watching the movie on your phone or do you have it connected to a TV? The screen being on will draw a lot of power I believe.
Always always wall charged; only used USB to adb stuff never let it charge via usb
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If you're charging by USB, forget it.
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I reckon Im a heavy user. 2hrs of telephone calls, 2hrs of on screen time in a period of six hours at an average.
Therefore I find it difficult to make the batt last through the day on a single charge. Since the battery is not removable I was thinking of buying a portable battery backup which I can use to charge it on the move. Have the following questions regarding the same. Please help if u can.
1. Is it safe to use a backup portable on the go charger?
2. What are some good brands?
3. Do they have a good life?
4. Any ones you would like to recommend?
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I have an Xperia P. But I guess the answer would be valid to the entire Xperia NXT line.
I would try a Duracell one
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I'm thinking about getting this one (Powerocks Stone3): http://www.powerocks.com/a/2/1/2011/1212/42.html
Plan to use it also on my Nexus 7 when available here...
Do you have any experience with it?
It has 2.0A & 2.1A power output ports, but I'm not sure it will be able to fasty-charge my XPS.
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I'm thinking about getting this one (Powerocks Stone3): http://www.powerocks.com/a/2/1/2011/1212/42.html
Plan to use it also on my Nexus 7 when available here...
Do you have any experience with it?
It has 2.0A & 2.1A power output ports, but I'm not sure it will be able to fasty-charge my XPS.
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The "official" unit that will be able to fast charge just like your plugged into the wall with the EP851 is the Sony CP-A2LAS. It has a 4000mah capacity so it will be able to give your phone two full charges from zero. It was just released in Japan and will be around the world globaly soon.
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I've used the zagg sparq 2.0 for a while now and carry it everywhere with me. Suggests up to 4 full charges, on average I get 3
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The "official" unit that will be able to fast charge just like your plugged into the wall with the EP851 is the Sony CP-A2LAS. It has a 4000mah capacity so it will be able to give your phone two full charges from zero. It was just released in Japan and will be around the world globaly soon.
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Just received mine! 4000mah, lets see how it works! I will post my impressions after i use it!
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Just received mine! 4000mah, lets see how it works! I will post my impressions after i use it!
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I wonder how great the charger is. But for more or less 100$, I wonder if I have other options...
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The "official" unit that will be able to fast charge just like your plugged into the wall with the EP851 is the Sony CP-A2LAS. It has a 4000mah capacity so it will be able to give your phone two full charges from zero. It was just released in Japan and will be around the world globaly soon.
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I have exactly this one, it's an excellent portable charger, works great, at least for me ^^
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can you send me the link where did you buy that? badly needed for sony xperia P.. thanks
This one works well, it's the smaller version. I use it with my Arc and S.
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-CP-ELS-P...ie=UTF8&qid=1344682032&sr=8-1&keywords=cp-els
it was here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1573397
search next time
sony CP-A2LS is very very slow. it's not like ep850/851. it's just like USB in PC - 0,5A...
what bother me is if it is a possibility of cross two cables in one, so it would be 2x 0,5A for Xperia
powerocks has 2,1A but is too big. smaller has only 1A...
i have this one http://www.amazon.co.uk/TeckNet®-Du...46YY/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1345377498&sr=8-3 works a treat
The http://www.portablepowersupplies.co.uk/portapow-usb-battery-pack/ just came out last month.
4400mAh
Its good this battery?
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take at least 1500mA output for a quick charging
very good topic
Look at the one have 2A output for faster charging.
I have an anker that i bought for germany and it preduces 3amps max and can charge 2 devices simultaneously it was only £40 on a discount but i still have it after nearly a year and it still works perfectly and is a 10000mah so it can charge the xperia u 4-5 times i can only drain 25% over a whole day with gps,bluetooth,wifi,3g permanently on so i can use google maps
this battery looks intresting...i also have the same battery drain issue...thinking of giving this external battery a try...
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I've had this N9 LTE for about a week and a half, so i'm still not used to it fully, but this, this can't be normal right? I havn't seen a device take 10 hours to recharge 75% since the first iPhone in 2007. Plus I have ElementalX Kernal with fast recharge enabled...I don't get it
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find a good cable and a good 1.5A-2A charger, the junk HTC gave us is something out of their "just include something" bin. I haven't even taken the stock charger out of its packaging. its good in a pinch when you must have a charge, but not worth using on a higher power device like the N9.
also, give a kernel like elementalX a try, it should enable faster charging..
anker makes some good self regulated (based on needs) multi port chargers, give those a try with some anker 1' cables.
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Stock charger works fine here. Takes 6 hours or so to charge.
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Migamix said:
find a good cable and a good 1.5A-2A charger, the junk HTC gave us is something out of their "just include something" bin. I haven't even taken the stock charger out of its packaging. its good in a pinch when you must have a charge, but not worth using on a higher power device like the N9.
also, give a kernel like elementalX a try, it should enable faster charging..
anker makes some good self regulated (based on needs) multi port chargers, give those a try with some anker 1' cables.
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I'm using my note 4 fast charger and cable. Can't be better quality than that. And as mentioned, I'm already on ElementalX
After you change the cable you might realize that this won't solve the problem. Most of the times it works better if you simply reboot the tablet, the charging time will significantly decrease (~3-4 h depending on your kernel). Share if something changes.
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I'm using my note 4 fast charger and cable. Can't be better quality than that. And as mentioned, I'm already on ElementalX
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You didn't mention if you have a custom rom? I'm using a cm based rom and there is a known bug that the tablet does not show the correct battery status... I have to reboot it to see the true batters stats
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You didn't mention if you have a custom rom? I'm using a cm based rom and there is a known bug that the tablet does not show the correct battery status... I have to reboot it to see the true batters stats
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Stock android, ElementalX Kernel
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Stock android, ElementalX Kernel
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Yeah that's not normal... I would now try the stock charger... That's what I use and it works fine... If that doesn't help then I'll would call Google for a replacement
I'll wait for 5.1 to come out and will take a decision then. Thanks for your input
it's not normal for this to happen, but i've seen a few threads where this does happen and it doesn't matter the kernel, charger or cables. sometime the device gets stuck at charging at less than usb 2.0 speeds. it doesn't happen all the time, but it's pretty crappy when it does happen. one suggestion was to unplug and replug each time you charge it to hopefully not get stuck with the bug through that charge session. when i do catch it trickle charging i just replug it. i generally charge in just over 4hrs for a full charge using a samsung note charger and cable.
I have been using the stock charger with a third-party USB cable (I needed something longer) and it has never taken more than 3-4 hours for a full charge.
Try using Ampere app from the play store to test different chargers and cable combinations. It helped me to eventually go with a iPad charger and a 20awg 1m cable which charges at an average of 1700mha which means a full charge of about 3hrs or less (stock ROM + ElementalX fast charge enabled)
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Not sure if this is the same issue, but when I charge my n9 overnight, the battery indicator only shows like 23% charge. However, if I restart the n9 it updates and shows 100%.
Anyone have that issue? Buy
I think my Nexus 9 charges faster with the Fire-Ice Kernel
Hello I made this thread so people could post their charging mA with the fast charge, Im getting around 960-1010 mA charge while my phone is plugged... I think my result is kinda low for a fast charge charger, I used my Galaxy Tab S charger on my Nexus 5 and I could get up to 1400 mA! And thats with the "old" snapdragon 800 quick charge, also, it charges much faster than my S6 with only 300 or 400 mAh less capacity than the S6...
What is your current charge mA? You can use Ampere or type current charge in the play store to see how fast your phone charges! Compare with others and see if theres something wrong with your charger or battery.
Sorry about my english I learned it through MMOs.
Here is a picture of my current charge!
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I also use Ampere and with the fast charger it shows about 2700mA charge, but I heard somewhere that the fast charging only works when the screen is off, so you might possibly be getting a lower charge because you are using the phone while charging it, when using the fast charge I don't use my phone at all. You might ask them how am I able to even see the charge if I don't even use my phone? I turne the notification settings on the pro version of ampere so it shows the charge on my lockscreen always
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I also use Ampere and with the fast charger it shows about 2700mA charge, but I heard somewhere that the fast charging only works when the screen is off, so you might possibly be getting a lower charge because you are using the phone while charging it, when using the fast charge I don't use my phone at all. You might ask them how am I able to even see the charge if I don't even use my phone? I turne the notification settings on the pro version of ampere so it shows the charge on my lockscreen always
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Whats your current charge with screen on? And why is my nexus getting up to 1400 mA when my screen is on when fast charge is supposed to be much faster than the snapdragon 800 quick charge.
Edit: my phone says itll take 31mins to charge from 82% to 100% with fast charge, is that normal?
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Whats your current charge with screen on? And why is my nexus getting up to 1400 mA when my screen is on when fast charge is supposed to be much faster than the snapdragon 800 quick charge.
Edit: my phone says itll take 31mins to charge from 82% to 100% with fast charge, is that normal?
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Uhm I'll first have to test that, and about the lower charge from 82 to 100, it is normal because with the Adaptive Fast Charging you get a high charge initially and towards the end it lowers, that is how it's supposed to work in order to charge the battery properly
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Uhm I'll first have to test that, and about the lower charge from 82 to 100, it is normal because with the Adaptive Fast Charging you get a high charge initially and towards the end it lowers, that is how it's supposed to work in order to charge the battery properly
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Aight let me know about your charge mA when the screen is on with ampere!
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Aight let me know about your charge mA when the screen is on with ampere!
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Okay I tested today and I got 1020mA with the fast charger while using the phone.
it is normal because with the Adaptive Fast Charging you get a high charge initially and towards the end it lowers
If you can charge from 0 to 50% in about 30 minutes. Then it is working fine. It charges much slower after that percentage to protect the battery and etc. It's normal for all fast charging capable phones.
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Guys I stopped fast charging after reading that it possibly fries the accelerometer.. I haven't charged by phone with the adaptiv fast charger yet. Use a 5v/6amp charger which is quite slow. Please advise me if I can start using the fast charger without causing issues to accelerometer thanks
Moto g5 plus
I get around 900mah to 1200mah.
I have Moto g5 plus having Quick charge 2.0
Yeah, I can confirm that fast charge only works while the screen is off. The voltage the charger spits out reflects that.
Screen off: 9V
Screen on: 5V
PunkOz said:
Hello I made this thread so people could post their charging mA with the fast charge, Im getting around 960-1010 mA charge while my phone is plugged... I think my result is kinda low for a fast charge charger, I used my Galaxy Tab S charger on my Nexus 5 and I could get up to 1400 mA! And thats with the "old" snapdragon 800 quick charge, also, it charges much faster than my S6 with only 300 or 400 mAh less capacity than the S6...
What is your current charge mA? You can use Ampere or type current charge in the play store to see how fast your phone charges! Compare with others and see if theres something wrong with your charger or battery.
Sorry about my english I learned it through MMOs.
Here is a picture of my current charge!
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