1. I'm a newb.
2. I've tried to research a good amount on my own.
I know that much customization will require root as a starting point. I'm not sure I want to run a custom rom or not yet as there doesn't seem to be much of a benefit at this current time. The overclocking interests me a bit.. because, why not? I guess that's my question. With using Dag's root and overclock, are there any stability issues at all? Other issues I might run in to? I just want to be positive of what I'm doing before I mess anything up. Should I run a backup of some sort or are roots relatively harmless?
Thanks in advance.
If you do a backup before you do anything its dam near impossible to brick your phone.
Make sure you understand what your doing before you do it not just do it because someone said it works.
Rooting releases your phone as it should be.
Just learn and enjoy
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If you do a backup before you do anything its dam near impossible to brick your phone.
Make sure you understand what your doing before you do it not just do it because someone said it works.
Rooting releases your phone as it should be.
Just learn and enjoy
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Not only that, ODIN makes it damn near impossible to brick your phone
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Odin is used in dags method, correct? what's the best way to backup?
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edit: everything i'm seeing seems to imply the backup programs can only be installed after root. is there a separate backup i can do before root, or should i needn't worry about backup before rooting?
Overclocking kills battery life. Theres the risk of failing the rooting process too(doubt that will happen...). Flashing also increases flash counter and voiding warranty(go learn how to reset it)
flashing a lot damages internal memory also(you will prolly notice it after 1.5 yrs)
So are we recommending against doing this just for the sake of overclocking? or..
Sorry like you guys said I don't want to do it just to do it, want to be sure I'm doing this for a reason. If nothing else I can remove bloatware after root, right?
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flashing a lot damages internal memory also(you will prolly notice it after 1.5 yrs)
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What is a lot for you?
I ran OC and honestly I can live with out it. Not worth the battery killing any faster. This thing is fast out of box, rooting and removing bloats will make it faster. Using a superscript takes away any other lag issue that I had with keyboard, touch screen responsiveness etc. My advice, don't OC.
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flashing a lot damages internal memory also(you will prolly notice it after 1.5 yrs)
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Who keeps their phone that long? LOL
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Who keeps their phone that long? LOL
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I agree. I would get sick of a phone if i had it that long.
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shaolinx said:
...Flashing also increases flash counter and voiding warranty(go learn how to reset it)
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Nope. No one to our knowledge has ever actually been denied a warranty claim because of the counter.
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flashing a lot damages internal memory also(you will prolly notice it after 1.5 yrs)
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Definitely nope. This is just silly.
OP: It's great fun and the best way to unlock the potential of your device. Just make sure you do your research first!
Ok I guess I'll just root and remove bloat and see where that gets me
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Who keeps their phone that long? LOL
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LOL Seriously!! Those of us who tweak the phones this much will want something new well before 18 months! I had my Atrix almost exactly a year before I went to the Note.
Rooted. It's amazing how much easier that was than the equivalent process with Wp7 (getting a student dev account free was a pain in the ass). So I'm pretty sure I have Dag's kernel (pda.tar) uploaded. I want to try out holo's (don't see why not). I thought I could've just substituted his for Dag's initially, but couldn't figure out how. There was only one pda.tar file available and I saved both kernels in the same folder. It's really just the boot.img file that you're flashing, isn't it? I might not know what I'm talking about so rather than continuing if someone could just let me know how to update with holo's.
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LOL Seriously!! Those of us who tweak the phones this much will want something new well before 18 months! I had my Atrix almost exactly a year before I went to the Note.
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I had the atrix for like 6 moths and went to the note, and prolly gonna get the galaxy s3 when it comes out
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Definitely nope. This is just silly
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enlighten yourself http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1189544
Yes you can remove bloat
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enlighten yourself http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1189544
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+1. Flashing does degrade non-volatile memory over time. Eeproms can't handle being written to over and over and over. Things like USB drives get around this by writting files non-contiguously to random blocks/sectors (and by using other methods), and keeping a table of blocks that have gone bad. So you can write a 1 mb file over and over and it isn't writing it to the first meg on the drive, it is going in pieces all over the place, randomly each time. If it writes a block and that doesn't pass a checksum test, it will write the block again to another area and mark the block as bad so it never writes to it again.
Of course this isn't great for performance on a USB drive, but that is why this IS a problem on something like the OS partition of a phone. There you can't write randomly, you need contiguous files for performance, so each time you flash a new rom you are writing to the same memory space every time. Eventually you wear it out and there is no "bad block" table to help.
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I agree. I would get sick of a phone if i had it that long.
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LOL, I kept my last phone 4 1/2 years because nothing came close in specs until the Note. It was the first phone with a 5" screen, video out, removable keyboard, 8 gb hard drive (back when a 2 gb SD card was "big").
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LOL, I kept my last phone 4 1/2 years because nothing came close in specs until the Note. It was the first phone with a 5" screen, video out, removable keyboard, 8 gb hard drive (back when a 2 gb SD card was "big").
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Are you referring to the HTC Athena? I loved that device... kept mine a few years, too. That phone was way ahead of its time.
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Probably a stupid question, but can you damage, or wear out the internal memory by flashing the phone over and over? I think I've flashed over 20-30 times by now, I'm just wondering if I'm running the risk of causing damage by overflashing. Thanks.
Honestly, flashing every possible second of every day for 2 years, you night star to notice some degrade, but the number of write cycles for the nand in the phone, you wont notice anything.
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I was curious about this too..
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The development guys flash daily with no issues. Risk? Maybe. Real life problem, nope....
Ive been flashing like more than 50times found no prob. But wondering if i hv blank folders in my sd, will it affect phone performance? I hav like 30 blank folders dnt kw where they r from..
thanks for the replies guys, I thought that would be the answer but I wasn't sure. Thanks again
I flash at least onece a day. Have been for almost a year now. No problems here.
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Jeeze I sure hope not
I would suspect that the internal memory would have the same typical lifespan of any other form of flash memory. I have heard varying degrees of expected life - but you will probably have another phone before you get to that point.
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Honestly, flashing every possible second of every day for 2 years, you night star to notice some degrade, but the number of write cycles for the nand in the phone, you wont notice anything.
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Vibrant doesn't have nand memory, just an internal sd card
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Vibrant doesn't have nand memory, just an internal sd card
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Pretty much all flash storage used in devices right now is nand flash. However, the control of of that nand, or flash memory, differs from application to application. But, it is nand flash storage ;-)
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Vibrant doesn't have nand memory, just an internal sd card
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Probably a stupid question, but can you damage, or wear out the internal memory by flashing the phone over and over? I think I've flashed over 20-30 times by now, I'm just wondering if I'm running the risk of causing damage by overflashing. Thanks.
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It might have an adverse effect on your ability to score with the opposite sex. During your next night of bar-hopping or date night with your significant other, try explaining the purpose and the reason for the need to flash frequently and watch most women disappear. Such technical intricacies about custom ROMS, kernels and mods are like kryptonite to them.
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It might have an adverse effect on your ability to score with the opposite sex. During your next night of bar-hopping or date night with your significant other, try explaining the purpose and the reason for the need to flash frequently and watch most women disappear. Such technical intricacies about custom ROMS, kernels and mods are like kryptonite to them.
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+1. Not doing the bar thing anymore, but my wife would like to flush my phone down the toilet most of the time.
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+1. Not doing the bar thing anymore, but my wife would like to flush my phone down the toilet most of the time.
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Just ask her if she'd rather have you at home working on EDT stuff or getting **** faced at some bar. I bet I know the answer. My wife doesn't understand the whole flashing thing either. But she does understand a flash addiction is much better than a meth addiction.
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Just ask her if she'd rather have you at home working on EDT stuff or getting **** faced at some bar. I bet I know the answer. My wife doesn't understand the whole flashing thing either. But she does understand a flash addiction is much better than a meth addiction.
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hey.... what did meth ever do to you
My girlfriend doesn't understand my flash addiction, but then again she has an iphone...go figure!
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As for the overflashing of a phone, Ive never had any problems. I'm still flashing my loveable relic g1 with no problems and trust me its seen a lot of roms.
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It shouldn't cause any problems.
The devs would have had problems already had it been the case.
I always hear the warnings "rooting can brick your phone" but I was wondering how many have reported truly "Bricking" their phones trying to root?? I have a new GS2 and naturally a bit reluctant to root since it will void my warranty, but I am not a stranger to modding, I had a LG VU and with the help of guys from the LGVU forum I totally modded that phone to do be either a iPhone, Android or Storm looking/acting phone.. It took replacing system files and so on but I always backed up the originals so after 2 years of modding I was able to get the phone back to it factory state easily... The only "Bricking" resulted with LG VU members was due to having little tech sense or reading instructions on the correct procedures when modding..
That said, I felt the risk with the VU was minimal since I purchased it on ebay so there wasn't a warranty issue and more importantly it would have only cost me $100-150 to replace compared to this $500+ phone
My main reason for rooting is to get rid of the AT&T bloat and increase my battery life, a very knowledgeable member from the AT&T forum is also a Senior member/adviser here at XDA and reported increasing his battery life BIGTIME after rooting and making some changes post root.. TIA
If you do it perfectly, back up things you have to and flash kernels safely and absolutely by-the-book, nothing SHOULD happen. I've bricked an old GalaxyS1 by flashing a kernel but if you be extra careful and only get kernels that have been tested and generally, not f**k around, you'll be safe.
READ, READ, and READ some more. The best way to determine if something is safe or not is to really understand *what* you're doing.
What is "rooting" actually doing to your phone? How is it doing it? Answer that and you'll know if it's safe or not.
Spoiler Alert: If you don't do anything stupid, and aren't unlucky, it's perfectly safe.
its actually kinda hard to brick these phones by just attempting to root it. As long as you stay away from bootloaders, you'll be fine.
Buy a jig and go wild.
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its actually kinda hard to brick these phones by just attempting to root it. As long as you stay away from bootloaders, you'll be fine.
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Yup, the most important thing is:
Do NOT flash anything meant for the I9100. If the package includes bootloaders (many do), it will likely hose your device. Similarly, don't flash the UCKJ1 leak unless designgears has put up a "bootloader-free" version. While it won't brick you, it does eliminate the ability to use a jig to reset your "custom binary count" counter.
Other than that - anything linked to from the first post of a thread in the dev forum should be safe. (although some stuff, such as netchip's kernels, will result in you getting some experience with un-hosing your device with Odin/Heimdall.)
It's next to impossible to brick most Samsung phones, including ours, unless you mess with bootloaders. If you see the files boot.bin or Sbl.bin in a flash package, be VERY wary.
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Yup, the most important thing is:
Do NOT flash anything meant for the I9100. If the package includes bootloaders (many do), it will likely hose your device. Similarly, don't flash the UCKJ1 leak unless designgears has put up a "bootloader-free"
It's next to impossible to brick most Samsung phones, including ours, unless you mess with bootloaders. If you see the files boot.bin or Sbl.bin in a flash package, be VERY wary.
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thanks guys, not sure what bootloaders are yet but I now know I don't want them lol.. I've got lots of reading to do, I never jump into anything halfcocked.. Can you please tell me how rooting will greatly improve my battery life?? is it the rooting itself or things I can or should adjust or eliminate that helps increase battery life??
ALSO:will it help with the slight lag experienced with Gingerbread??
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thanks guys, not sure what bootloaders are yet but I now know I don't want them lol.. I've got lots of reading to do, I never jump into anything halfcocked.. Can you please tell me how rooting will greatly improve my battery life?? is it the rooting itself or things I can or should adjust or eliminate that helps increase battery life??
ALSO:will it help with the slight lag experienced with Gingerbread??
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http://androidcommunity.com/android-101-bootloaders-20110527/
info about bootloaders
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thanks guys, not sure what bootloaders are yet but I now know I don't want them lol.. I've got lots of reading to do, I never jump into anything halfcocked.. Can you please tell me how rooting will greatly improve my battery life?? is it the rooting itself or things I can or should adjust or eliminate that helps increase battery life??
ALSO:will it help with the slight lag experienced with Gingerbread??
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Rooting itself alone won't do anything.
A more aggressive debloating than what AT&T lets you do likely will.
Can't anything be fixed with Odin?
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Can't anything be fixed with Odin?
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anything, like what?
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anything, like what?
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Literally flashing a rom from another device with a different bootloader. Can't Odin just completely reflash all stock stuff?
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Literally flashing a rom from another device with a different bootloader. Can't Odin just completely reflash all stock stuff?
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The bootloader is the phone side of download mode. Break it, you break Odin.
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The bootloader is the phone side of download mode. Break it, you break Odin.
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Scary stuff.
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Scary stuff.
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It is along with being all greek at the moment... lots to read and research before doing anything..
As someone who just rooted his sg2 (which I got after getting rid of my iPhone this week), and as someone who had never used an android device previously, rooting was easy as pie.
And by that I mean things will turn out great if you take your time, chose a flavor (research), and follow the recipe (instructions).
I rooted and installed a ROM today. No issues at all. Just don't rush things and be sure to research.
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It is along with being all greek at the moment... lots to read and research before doing anything..
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Its not that hard to actually do the rooting and installing of custom roms. Once you get the hang of it, its nothing. The scary thing is that it becomes so easy that you could easily make a mistake and flash a corrupted bootloader and have a big problem on your hands.
Its almost too easy.
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So I rooted with the method sticked in the development center for cdma and now my computer has a virus. Currently paying dell $200 for trying to fix it.
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So is there.... anything I can do for you sir?
What else where you doing at the time? No one else has reported any virus from acquiring root the same way as you. Been rooted for months with no problems. Good luck
Are you sure it is a virus? Some antivirus software will think it is tho a false alarm...
The stock Ruu exe 2.17 will throw a warning after it is downloaded tho only cause it was a exe file,...
Doesn't mean a virus or keylogger or anything... I never have gotten a virus off xda or any where else.....
My computer won't open Internet explorer. Services.exe usage is at 100% for cpu its currently my heating source lol. It's a dell xps with 3.2ghz dualcore pentium 4 1gb ram<lol>.
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My computer won't open Internet explorer. Services.exe usage is at 100% for cpu its currently my heating source lol. It's a dell xps with 3.2ghz dualcore pentium 4 1gb ram<lol>.
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Have you tried to run microsoft security essentials or any other one?
Have you tried to wipe your cache? Worst comes to worst just reinstall your OS...
Why pay Dell just revert your sys back 24 hours and your done
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people still pay for services like that?
If your paying for something like that, chances are you've had viruses on your pc well before trying to root.
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Someones Blaming the android root procress, when its really them watching Porn......Shame on YOU!
well I've never had a virus from anything I have downloaded from xda. guess you should get an iPhone
Haha I've never seen my dad so happy
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well I've never had a virus from anything I have downloaded from xda. guess you should get an iPhone
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Dude did you try to reboot?
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Haha I've never seen my dad so happy
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Wonder why..
bman55 said:
So I rooted with the method sticked in the development center for cdma and now my computer has a virus. Currently paying dell $200 for trying to fix it.
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Sorry m8, it won't be the root process / s-off process which has caused you to get a virus, chances are it could have been there all along, there has been a truckload of people who have done this procedure and none of them have reported a virus.
Maybe a false positive but nothing more.
First things first, call dell and tell them not to come out, $200 for someone to come out and just press restore to an earlier point in time is a joke.
Either rollback yourself, or get malwarebytes, spyware doctor, registry mechanic, ccleaner, hijack this (then analyse results) a decent up to date full antivirus, make sure your windows is up to date, update all drivers, clean out junk and be careful what you do on the net in future, u should be good.
Remove all scanners but your AV when your done.
Combofix FTW
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My question is, why are you rooting your phone and you don't even know how to remove a virus from your computer? And no, it didn't come from rooting your phone. I'm 110% sure that there was something you were doing with your computer aside from rooting, or someone else in your household who has access to your PC.
200 dollars to fix your computer lol. Worst case scenario backup your files and factory reset the computer.
Most likely you could use combofix and malwarebytes to fix the problem.
http://www.malwarebytes.org/
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/combofix/how-to-use-combofix
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My question is, why are you rooting your phone and you don't even know how to remove a virus from your computer? And no, it didn't come from rooting your phone. I'm 110% sure that there was something you were doing with your computer aside from rooting, or someone else in your household who has access to your PC.
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I actually don't want to be that bold (sometimes it is necessary) but he really is telling the truth. I know how it is to start out and giving props for giving it a go. I know we all have to start out somewhere and XDA is a proper place as all or most members are willing to help you out in anything. ( if you left your dog outside - you might find a member to put him/her in the dog house in the back yard) that is how most of the members are on here. Willing to take the time to help.
Now as your current situation, yes, you did have a problem before OR maybe not. Depending on your current OS and Virus/Malware program. As stated before any program to alter current builds in there database will register as "malware or virus" so maybe you really don't have anything wrong so to speak.
Usually, if it has been in the forums for months we all would have been exposed of any malware etc and would have reported back w/ bad emotions... so no worry about XDA
Not sure what you are running for an OS, or program to protect or I could be more helpful but just letting you know, if you put out a question I'm sure you will get an answer.
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Hey all,
Just got a Rezound as a replacement for my Droid Charge. This is my first HTC phone since the Touch Pro 2. I was a regular visitor to the DC forums and tried every custom rom and hack you could find there. Coming to the Rezound and reading about the root methods and custom roms seems a bit daunting compared to the method for Samsung phones. I would really like to just start with Stock Rooted and was hoping that this all in one tool will help me achieve that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504824 Can someone confirm this for me. Also, do I need to have the supersu apk on my sdcard or will that tool provide it as well?
Also, will using CWM be okay (purely out of familiarity) once I start tinkering with custom roms and the such? Seems like there is another recovery more popular here.
Any video on someone flashing a custom rom on this phone from start to finish? That would help a lot.
So far I am loving this phone. HD screen is awesome, camera quality took a shot compared to my DC but I don't really care. Much needed boost in processor power finally allows me to play games I previously purchased but didn't have a strong enough phone to play.
I am looking forward to getting to learn more about this phone and participate in future discussions. Soon as I get a custom rom (maybe this weekend) up I will be in full force! Thanks for all of your help in advance.
When it comes to recoveries just use amon ra. Seems like to me there is a lot less problems with it. The all in one toolkit is awesome. It is were I started. Just read the tutorial that is with the all in one. That's all I did. I came from a droid.charge so I know the.difference between the two. I would recommend s off though. Not as scary as it sounds. And it frees your device. So much more u can do such as putting global capabilities to use.
Also a link for all in one soff tool kit. Makes flashing so much easier.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27076140
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When it comes to recoveries just use amon ra. Seems like to me there is a lot less problems with it. The all in one toolkit is awesome. It is were I started. Just read the tutorial that is with the all in one. That's all I did. I came from a droid.charge so I know the.difference between the two. I would recommend s off though. Not as scary as it sounds. And it frees your device. So much more u can do such as putting global capabilities to use.
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I may request your help as you will understand my point of reference. Yeah I am working up the nerve to S-Off soon. When I saw that wire I got a bit worried. I exclaimed "REALLY?!" when I saw the procedure. My wife thought something wrong happened. Cool, well I will read up on that and figure out which Kernel Rom combo I want. Is it similar to the DC where a rom will come with the kernel in a recovery flash package? I should figure it all soon enough. Just need to get the elections out of my hair.
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I may request your help as you will understand my point of reference. Yeah I am working up the nerve to S-Off soon. When I saw that wire I got a bit worried. I exclaimed "REALLY?!" when I saw the procedure. My wife thought something wrong happened. Cool, well I will read up on that and figure out which Kernel Rom combo I want. Is it similar to the DC where a rom will come with the kernel in a recovery flash package? I should figure it all soon enough. Just need to get the elections out of my hair.
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Yes, if you are S-off, the kernel will usually flash along with the Rom. Just read the Dev's OP before flashing any Rom as they will indicate if you need to fastboot flash the boot.img or if they have a PH98IMG.zip to flash separately. Honestly though, I am considering resetting my security flag back to S-On and manually flashing kernels any way to prevent the risk of bricking the phone. Haven't decided yet.
As for the s-off method, don't even sweat it. just make sure you watch the video and do exactly what it does by touching the correct points with the wire and you'll get it. Not really that hard, might just have to try a few times.
So, welcome!! :highfive:
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I may request your help as you will understand my point of reference. Yeah I am working up the nerve to S-Off soon. When I saw that wire I got a bit worried. I exclaimed "REALLY?!" when I saw the procedure. My wife thought something wrong happened. Cool, well I will read up on that and figure out which Kernel Rom combo I want. Is it similar to the DC where a rom will come with the kernel in a recovery flash package? I should figure it all soon enough. Just need to get the elections out of my hair.
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I wouldn't even worry about going S-OFF. It just makes the flashing process a little bit longer.
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I wouldn't even worry about going S-OFF. It just makes the flashing process a little bit longer.
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You mean shorter?
But op, don't worry about s off. If your worried about what the old lady says, don't tell her your doing it
My wife gets freaked out when I tinker with stuff like that so I just do it in private
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Welcome to the Rezound...I think I remember you from the Charge forums.
It looks like everyone else has taken good care of you..I just want to be another voice saying that CWM is the worst possible option for recovery on this phone. Also, I'm surprised about your camera comments. I was never able to make a good picture with the Charge no matter how hard I tried, but I can get good pics out of the Rez without any effort at all.
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You mean shorter?
But op, don't worry about s off. If your worried about what the old lady says, don't tell her your doing it
My wife gets freaked out when I tinker with stuff like that so I just do it in private
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Hahaha glad I'm not the only one.. she won't let me get her an android cuz she knows I'll mess with it, so she's sticking with iPhone.. lol
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Hahaha glad I'm not the only one.. she won't let me get her an android cuz she knows I'll mess with it, so she's sticking with iPhone.. lol
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I'm gonna get my wife the nexus 4 for Christmas but I *might* have a hidden agenda (I know no lte but we don't get lte here anyways)
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shrike1978 said:
Welcome to the Rezound...I think I remember you from the Charge forums.
It looks like everyone else has taken good care of you..I just want to be another voice saying that CWM is the worst possible option for recovery on this phone. Also, I'm surprised about your camera comments. I was never able to make a good picture with the Charge no matter how hard I tried, but I can get good pics out of the Rez without any effort at all.
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Good to see you here Shrike, I recognize your avatar and know that you have provided me with many helpful comments. Seeing you hear makes me feel better.
Had some more time with the camera and I formally retract my previous statement(s) about the camera. It handles indoor lighting and low lighting wayyyyy better than my charge. The charge gave nice pictures only in a well lit (sunlight) scene. What I like best is that it compensates pretty well for the flash. Things would look flushed out on shutter and appear clear in the image, vs the charge where the flash on close subjects just made white blobs.
Thanks for the warm reception everyone.
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You mean shorter?
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That's what I meant. I was trying to say that not S-offing made it longer.
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Check out my TWRP thread in the dev. If you don't want to S-OFF. It shows a great way to flash ROMs/Kernels inside of recovery while being S-ON. It's called HTC Dumlock. The official CWM sucks! Don't use it. If you use CWM use the version found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1914215
So im coming from a nexus. Its a good phone and all but I figure I'd try HTC for once. I got it for $99 on Amazon. Abby way what's the statue on root or a boot loader unlock. Also what's the difference in the a nexus is vs the dna. Also is there anything I should know or do when I receive my new device. Thanks for the help
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saintlikesniper said:
So im coming from a nexus. Its a good phone and all but I figure I'd try HTC for once. I got it for $99 on Amazon. Abby way what's the statue on root or a boot loader unlock. Also what's the difference in the a nexus is vs the dna. Also is there anything I should know or do when I receive my new device. Thanks for the help
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The DNA is an awesome phone; however, if your phone comes with the newest update from HTC on it, be aware, there is currently software-based (free) method to unlock bootloader or modify the phone at all. Users with updated phones that were not previously unlocked have had to resort to JTAG service (something like $45 plus shipping) to have the phone S-OFF'ed (Radio S-OFF - Means you can flash whatever you please (even more so with the engineering bootloader flashed)).
If the phone prompts you for an update, DON'T DO IT! If the phone is already updated, you either wait and hope for someone to find a vulnerability, pay for JTAG service, or use the phone stock (still a good phone, but no root).
Good luck!
saintlikesniper said:
So im coming from a nexus. Its a good phone and all but I figure I'd try HTC for once. I got it for $99 on Amazon. Abby way what's the statue on root or a boot loader unlock. Also what's the difference in the a nexus is vs the dna. Also is there anything I should know or do when I receive my new device. Thanks for the help
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Root/Bootloader status:
firmware 1.x - fully blown open
firmware 2.x - locked tighter that a dolphin's butthole.
It will probably come with the 2.x software. I would recommend using the JTAG service provided here:
http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/htc-droid-dna-dlx-jtag-s-off-modification-service/
Difference between a nexus and the dna... A world.
The gnex was made to open from the beginning. Running one fastboot command opened the entire floodgate, plus odin is an awesome tool for samsung devices. HTC devices have more parts that need to be cracked to have the same openess as the nexus. Right now 2.x firmware means you are running stock only (no root or anything). I'm coming from the gnex and was willing to pay for the jtag service because although I love the dev's work on this phone, I don't want to rely on them for everything.
Hope this helps.
Alright now what about things like supercid or HTC dev. Also if we can unlock the boot loader then why is s-off important. Or can we not unlock the boot loader on 2.xx
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saintlikesniper said:
Alright now what about things like supercid or HTC dev. Also if we can unlock the boot loader then why is s-off important. Or can we not unlock the boot loader on 2.xx
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Read the threads.
No HTCdev, no unlock of bootloader of any kind currently.
Oh okay so I read that wrong. So we can't even downgrade to a previous version or that requires root and an unlocked bootloader. Also if my device is on 2.x no root goodness for me huh?
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saintlikesniper said:
Oh okay so I read that wrong. So we can't even downgrade to a previous version or that requires root and an unlocked bootloader. Also if my device is on 2.x no root goodness for me huh?
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No. You are stuck stock just like I am until someone figures it out. If they figure it out. Or you could pay the 45.00 for the JTAG s-off.
badogg said:
No. You are stuck stock just like I am until someone figures it out. If they figure it out. Or you could pay the 45.00 for the JTAG s-off.
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It's so worth it
Zarboz said:
It's so worth it
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Ugh, I might just have to do it. My wife thinks I'm retarded, but what does SHE know being she doesn't have the staff of logic and intelligence. :laugh:
badogg said:
Ugh, I might just have to do it. My wife thinks I'm retarded, but what does SHE know being she doesn't have the staff of logic and intelligence. :laugh:
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I think your wife and my wife might know each other....
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badogg said:
Ugh, I might just have to do it. My wife thinks I'm retarded, but what does SHE know being she doesn't have the staff of logic and intelligence. :laugh:
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Women can justify buying the same damn shoes and clothes in different shades of the same color, getsing jtagged should not be questioned.
And then oddly enough they complain when they see another in the same dress. Exclaiming how she stole her idea. Not even thinking she just might have the same taste in clothes but oh no that "B**** better get out that dress 'cause I wore it first"
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Lol, what have I done to the thread?
badogg said:
Lol, what have I done to the thread?
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Made it interesting.
badogg said:
Lol, what have I done to the thread?
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You said what most of us think when we ponder a purchase that has to be approved by the gatekeeper/wife.
haha no comments on the women stuff i think you understand why hahaha
Like other post, i would say know that you will not have root for a bit and cm 10.1 is not done yet...but will be soon. You can go for JTAG or stick with stock or use nova launcher temporarily. The battery life is pretty decent but nothing crazy 4 hours of screen time-ish on stock. i usually get enough battery for 1 day and a few hours. Oh, fastboot will prevent a full restart of your phone so might want to disable that...and yea just look around settings. there are ways to increase battery and stuff. for example, there is a settings in wifi that allows it to auto turn off and use data unless you start using your phone. I think its a great device even through its a bit big for my taste, and i don't like stock much. Hope you enjoy your phone! I can't wait to get root and cm 10.1 on my phone. ^_^
atishpatel2012 said:
haha no comments on the women stuff i think you understand why hahaha
Like other post, i would say know that you will not have root for a bit and cm 10.1 is not done yet...but will be soon. You can go for JTAG or stick with stock or use nova launcher temporarily. The battery life is pretty decent but nothing crazy 4 hours of screen time-ish on stock. i usually get enough battery for 1 day and a few hours. Oh, fastboot will prevent a full restart of your phone so might want to disable that...and yea just look around settings. there are ways to increase battery and stuff. for example, there is a settings in wifi that allows it to auto turn off and use data unless you start using your phone. I think its a great device even through its a bit big for my taste, and i don't like stock much. Hope you enjoy your phone! I can't wait to get root and cm 10.1 on my phone. ^_^
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I don't know what it is with me but I'm honestly tired of using CM and AOSP for awhile. I've been enjoying Viper so that I can still get a breath of fresh air from Sense... even though most don't appreciate Sense. Honestly wish I could put a Sense variant on my N7 too just to change it up.
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Lol, what have I done to the thread?
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BAD DOG! *rubs your nose in it*
Yeah I know what you vanilla gets bland for awhile. I can't get past two hours screen time on my nexus. And that's with the extended battery. At least sense is adding sprinkles and chocolate syrup to vanilla. Anyways what about face palm or whatever. Anyway my device will be here Monday thinks for the info I've only had Motorola and Samsung phones so HTC is a breath of fresh air
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Grimmity said:
I don't know what it is with me but I'm honestly tired of using CM and AOSP for awhile. I've been enjoying Viper so that I can still get a breath of fresh air from Sense... even though most don't appreciate Sense. Honestly wish I could put a Sense variant on my N7 too just to change it up.
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Same here. I love CM and AOSP/AOKP, but I tire of them pretty quick. I honestly don't understand the HTC Sense hate some people have. If it was that bad then everyone wouldn't be trying to find widgets that looked like the sense widgets on CM/AOSP. Sense is a really nice looking UI and their widgets are second to none.
I'm pretty much decided on sending out my DNA to be JTAG'd. How long can I expect to be without a phone? I think i'll be stuck using my rezound with just google voice.