-Apple announce March 7 and release it on March 16
-Asus announce Transformer TF700t and Asus Transformer Pad Infinity 700 At CES January 10 and we still don't know the release date.
-By the time these products is release all hype will be gone,most of us will be looking elsewhere..
ANDROID MANUFACTURES when you announce a product release in a week or 2 weeks or don't announce it...
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-Apple announce March 7 and release it on March 16
-Asus announce Transformer TF700t and Asus Transformer Pad Infinity 700 At CES January 10 and we still don't know the release date.
-By the time these products is release all hype will be gone,most of us will be looking elsewhere..
ANDROID MANUFACTURES when you announce a product release in a week or 2 weeks or don't announce it...
Thank you....
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You make a great point. Most people will by while still hyped about a product. Let the people buy the product, then let the hype die down after thousands of tablets have been sold, not before!
its because apple waits a whole year before announcing anything. then 2 weeks before they plan on releasing, they announce it. they give no hint of a new device throughout the whole year.
Android gives you a heads up of what's to come since so many different tablets to choose from. Apple has only 1 tablet so no need for a heads up earlier in the year. they let rumours build till the next year.
Apple set the stage for this a few years back when they pulled out of the MacWorld conference and started hosting their own events. That way, they 1) isolate their message and 2) establish an annual upgrade schedule for their products. This is brilliant in a few ways:
1. It creates a built-in base of customers anticipating the next, great Apple product and ready to upgrade. If they don't upgrade annually (say, from the iPad to the iPad 2), then they absolutely upgrade every other year. They offer just enough value to entice those biannual upgraders, and count on the hardcore fans to upgrade every year.
2. It gives the media a chance to plan their stories (i.e., prime the hype pump). Editors and reporters love things they can plan out, and they likely keep their slates clean the month of the next Apple event.
3. It allows them to build out their inventory before announcing, and then release almost immediately. Because of #1 and #2, they're virtually guaranteed to sell out of these initial inventory runs. There's always some wiggle room on when the event actually takes place, so any glitch in supply of a week or two (or three, or a month) can easily be dealt with just by moving the date a bit.
Android manufacturers, however, pretty much rely on CES to show off their best stuff, and CES hardly ever seems to correlate with their product cycles. If they DON'T show at CES, then they're left out of the biggest hype cycle of the year. But by showing at CES when their product cycles are months out, they lose the hype. And Android manufacturers aren't alone, either--consider that HP pretty much killed the TouchPad and Pre 3 by announcing in February (around CES) and not releasing until months later. The same was true for the original Pre, which won Best of Show at CES 2009 but then completely dropped off the radar by the time it actually shipped.
Who knows, maybe Android manufacturers will start synching their product cycles to CES. Or, they'll do like Samsung seems to be doing--holding off on showing their best stuff, like the Galaxy S III, until it's closer to shipping. I have a feeling that the SGSIII will be released a few weeks after it's announced. Same thing with the next-gen Samsung tablet.
But someone like ASUS could NEVER get the traction necessary. It's CES, or fade into oblivion.
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Apple set the stage for this a few years back when they pulled out of the MacWorld conference and started hosting their own events. That way, they 1) isolate their message and 2) establish an annual upgrade schedule for their products. This is brilliant in a few ways:
1. It creates a built-in base of customers anticipating the next, great Apple product and ready to upgrade. If they don't upgrade annually (say, from the iPad to the iPad 2), then they absolutely upgrade every other year. They offer just enough value to entice those biannual upgraders, and count on the hardcore fans to upgrade every year.
2. It gives the media a chance to plan their stories (i.e., prime the hype pump). Editors and reporters love things they can plan out, and they likely keep their slates clean the month of the next Apple event.
3. It allows them to build out their inventory before announcing, and then release almost immediately. Because of #1 and #2, they're virtually guaranteed to sell out of these initial inventory runs. There's always some wiggle room on when the event actually takes place, so any glitch in supply of a week or two (or three, or a month) can easily be dealt with just by moving the date a bit.
Android manufacturers, however, pretty much rely on CES to show off their best stuff, and CES hardly ever seems to correlate with their product cycles. If they DON'T show at CES, then they're left out of the biggest hype cycle of the year. But by showing at CES when their product cycles are months out, they lose the hype. And Android manufacturers aren't alone, either--consider that HP pretty much killed the TouchPad and Pre 3 by announcing in February (around CES) and not releasing until months later. The same was true for the original Pre, which won Best of Show at CES 2009 but then completely dropped off the radar by the time it actually shipped.
Who knows, maybe Android manufacturers will start synching their product cycles to CES. Or, they'll do like Samsung seems to be doing--holding off on showing their best stuff, like the Galaxy S III, until it's closer to shipping. I have a feeling that the SGSIII will be released a few weeks after it's announced. Same thing with the next-gen Samsung tablet.
But someone like ASUS could NEVER get the traction necessary. It's CES, or fade into oblivion.
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This +1000 time over. It looks like Samsung are starting to do their own thing now trying to compete with Apple but for smaller operations like Asus (who appear to not even be able to keep up with demand when one of their products does get hype), it's pretty much CES or bust. Its not just Android manufacturers at CES either, PC manufacturers and the custom PC parts companies have to show of their wares there too and for most of them it doesn't match their release cycles. I had to wait months after seeing the Corsair 600T Special Edition case at CES until I could buy one in Australia, very frustrating but its what they have to do to get it out there.
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Yep. Apple really knows how to treat its customers.
My Apple Experience:
-iPad announced with official release date and all details.
-Available on website for preorder right away.
-They released a map a few days later showing the exact date they will be delivered for every city.
-They release the exact hour and stores where the iPad will be available on release date.
-My iPad arrives at the door on release date.
Prime Experience
-Announced in friggin October or something.
-"Release date gonna be November"
-Delayed
-Release date gonna be December 9, 11, 21, or 23
-Delayed.
-Don't get it before Christmas
-Don't get it before New Year
-Finally get it in January.
If Asus didn't mention nothing about the new Transformer's, i would have bought the transformer prime and be happy with it.
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Yep. Apple really knows how to treat its customers.
My Apple Experience:
-iPad announced with official release date and all details.
-Available on website for preorder right away.
-They released a map a few days later showing the exact date they will be delivered for every city.
-They release the exact hour and stores where the iPad will be available on release date.
-My iPad arrives at the door on release date.
Prime Experience
-Announced in friggin October or something.
-"Release date gonna be November"
-Delayed
-Release date gonna be December 9, 11, 21, or 23
-Delayed.
-Don't get it before Christmas
-Don't get it before New Year
-Finally get it in January.
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My prime experience is the same except you can add.
-Got Prime up and running and had Unknown Serial, No GPS, a white spot on the screen and another dark spot
-Finally got ICS by manual update (dealt with other issues)
-Decided to RMA device once Serial Number Unknown wasn't getting fixed OTA
-Sent it in
-Arrived the next day, checked in at Asus 2 days after
-Went straight to repairing for 2 days
-Went to WB5-Waiting for 3 weeks
-Contacted Asus and they said they would refund me and my issues may not get fixed if I wait it out.
Seriously?
This is a piddling thing.
My problem with Android makers is two fold
A) They won't support (i.e. keep the OS current) their old product after the next version comes out
and
B) They keep locking the bootloader so WE can't get support anywhere except from them.
And they don't release their hardware drivers when they stop support.
In short, the whole thing is designed to be disposable in the short term.
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Seriously?
This is a piddling thing.
My problem with Android makers is two fold
A) They won't support (i.e. keep the OS current) their old product after the next version comes out
and
B) They keep locking the bootloader so WE can't get support anywhere except from them.
And they don't release their hardware drivers when they stop support.
In short, the whole thing is designed to be disposable in the short term.
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Then stop *****ing about it here and stop buing Android merchendice!!!!
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Then stop *****ing about it here and stop buing Android merchendice!!!!
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Wait, what?
The OP had some gripes, I happen to disagree with what should take priority and now I'm not welcome in this thread, or even on the majority of these boards (at least according to you)?
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Wait, what?
The OP had some gripes, I happen to disagree with what should take priority and now I'm not welcome in this thread, or even on the majority of these boards (at least according to you)?
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ignore him, he's an idiot...or a troll
Sorry if I was a little harsh, but you maybe got a little of my frustration about the *****ing on this forum that has been a bit much lately. Sorry about that.
All I´m saying is if you have that much against Android manufacturers and what they are able to deliver then maybe you should consider to switch to something else.
And if one of the things that is your biggest problem is a locked bootloader....yeah well..
Do you have anyone else in mind that does better?
I think the OP is on to something with what he is adressing. Because this hurts Android as a hole and not just us consumers.
People get their hopes and dreams up only to forget because of the very very long time it goes from launch til release.
The technogeeks like us stays with it, but the "normal" people loose interest quite fast.
That is one of the things that Apple do right imo. They tell everybody that "Hey...we will have this and that for you soon" and they actually deliver a couple of weeks later when the story is still fresh.
None of the Android manufacturers do this. And that is a shame because not only do we as consumers loose upon this, but the companies loose as well.
And the Apple way of doing it do look much more professional to the most of the public. They dont want to wait 2-3 months from they first hear about it until they can buy it.
And I am a Apple "hater", and wish that Android would rule the tablet world as well as the smartphone world.
I can´t stand the "Apple way" but I´m big enough to admit that they do something right.
Apple has their own stores. You cant provide the same experience with 3rd party stores. The way apple releases their products is nearly perfect.
But in my case, the prime situation was very good. I preordered in November and soon after that got a date "late january" - I got my prime around the 20th January and it worked perfectly out of the box (C1). So i'm totally happy with the situation.
What i really dont get though is that Asus decided to announce their new products so far ahead of the release (Tf700+Tf300). I dont see any positives to that.
->It stopped people from buying the tf201.
->before the new tablets get released there was the launch of the ipad 3 (i'm sure asus knew about that) - so alot of customers get lost to a competitor.
->It pisses off tf201 buyers and provokes product returns.
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ignore him, he's an idiot...or a troll
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Or maybe both.
The reason Apple releases so quickly after announcing is because they are already way behind the curve and don't want to fall back any further.
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Its not really Android manufacturers to me but rather most tech companies.
I wish more of them would do it like Apple. Announce something and sell it in 1-2 weeks.
While I understand OP's point,
I respectfully disagree, One have to understand Apple is in a different place with other tablets on the market right now.
They have their own ecosystem, they don't compete with other company that builds systems using the same OS.
They have their own timeline, and with their experience in software/hardware + load of cash.
And Apple customers are loyal, once they are used to apple products its not unlikely for them to switch.
Android is a different story, 10-100s of manufacture competing, every company has something to offer, and since they are offering a very similar user experience (like windows on PC, you are likely to have owned ASUS, Acer, Dell or HP and switch between them). If you don't get a heads up on what's coming a few months earlier, you are very likely to have bought say, the Motorola xoom II, which still runs tegra 2 and was released about 1 month before the prime.
And if you have already bought the xoom II, its very unlikely for you to buy the prime since you had just bought a new tablet.
So now which user has more buyer's remorse?
1. Someone who waits for a quad core tablet to come out, but got delayed for a month or two to receive it.
or
2. Someone who bought the Xoom II, have it for 2 weeks, and to find out the quad core tablet is releasing in 2 weeks?
And I think the reason they announced the TF700/TF300 has to do with a few points:
1. the IPAD3, people know the ipad 3 has retina display, so they have to show that they are working on something with ultra high display too, so android user are less likely to switch to IOS due to the high resolution display.
2. Other Android Manufacture, people know that other android manufatures are going to come up with some in the Android department too, so they have to show something new in order to stand out in CES.
3. X'mas is too close to CES, they tried to release the prime before X'mas, but it should be clear it was a nearly impossible mission, considering now almost 4 months later, there are no other tegra 3 devices out yet. But ASUS managed to release it right before X'mas. And as a result, the CES show was just 1 month away.
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Sorry if I was a little harsh, but you maybe got a little of my frustration about the *****ing on this forum that has been a bit much lately. Sorry about that.
All I´m saying is if you have that much against Android manufacturers and what they are able to deliver then maybe you should consider to switch to something else.
And if one of the things that is your biggest problem is a locked bootloader....yeah well..
Do you have anyone else in mind that does better?
I think the OP is on to something with what he is adressing. Because this hurts Android as a hole and not just us consumers.
People get their hopes and dreams up only to forget because of the very very long time it goes from launch til release.
The technogeeks like us stays with it, but the "normal" people loose interest quite fast.
That is one of the things that Apple do right imo. They tell everybody that "Hey...we will have this and that for you soon" and they actually deliver a couple of weeks later when the story is still fresh.
None of the Android manufacturers do this. And that is a shame because not only do we as consumers loose upon this, but the companies loose as well.
And the Apple way of doing it do look much more professional to the most of the public. They dont want to wait 2-3 months from they first hear about it until they can buy it.
And I am a Apple "hater", and wish that Android would rule the tablet world as well as the smartphone world.
I can´t stand the "Apple way" but I´m big enough to admit that they do something right.
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Im buying the new transformer prime... but about 4 days ago i was heading out the door to buy an ipad 2 before a friend showed me this great device. So far in the last 4 days since i heard of this tablet ive told 20 different people about this and NO ONE knows about it, NO ONE!! not a soul, and who can blame them?
there's no commercials, there's almost no add campaign at all... there's not even a solid release date yet!!
im finding it hard to make an investment in this company.
I won't get into how much money Apple dunks into marketing their products. This all comes down to how much more they will gain by dumping millions on advertising it. Will they make 10x profit compared to the cost? If they can't get a good estimate, then most company chooses to just let online "press" and retailers advertise in their stead. See how it goes and promote it further. Most people learn about products on TV and the Internet, but what makes them want to buy a product is from knowing someone that owns it or have experienced it first hand. There's no reason for a corporation to invest in marketing a product if it is not a 100% sure hit. It has something to do with corporate decisions.
The EeePad Transformer was a pretty good device with AWESOME support. That is what Asus does. I can verify that is what Asus does best; slow at getting customers, but keeps them forever because they stay behind their products. If you ever purchase their video cards, or other hardware, you will find that Asus will treat you like family.
Apple may have good Customer Support but that lasts how long? 90 days without a warranty?
But also, this is a new product as its not just another Tablet. While current Transformer users love the product, it does seem a little unusual. The Transformer line-up will become a pretty big thing in the next few years I'm sure.
I was surprised that in a group of 20 people 2 recognised Asus Transformer for what it was and no one called it iPad. It was in Poland. I don't know if there were advertisements in TV for it or sth. It's in most big shops though, maybe people know it from their ad flyers (I don't know how it's called - ads for big stores that are left on your front door with information about new promotions).
Android tablets suffer from hardware-war. But the thing is that majority of consumers are mainly interested in CONTENT, not the device and its hardware. This is why Amazon Kindle jumped amazingly fast in sales even though their custom skin for Android and hardware of the device are relatively lacklustre.
Android makers mainly battle with their features and hardware. But that's not the way to make an impact.
I understand word of mouth is a great way to sell products, but since no one i know has ever heard of this thing, i got lucky that some random xbl friend happened to know about it. I find it hard to beleave that ASUS is a marketing geniuses that is using a unique marketing trick which is the opposite of what everyone else does.
Apple has everyone brain washed, including me a little while ago, and thats what ASUS should be striving for.. not hide in the shadows and let the fans do the selling.
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I understand word of mouth is a great way to sell products, but since no one i know has ever heard of this thing, i got lucky that some random xbl friend happened to know about it. I find it hard to beleave that ASUS is a marketing geniuses that is using a unique marketing trick which is the opposite of what everyone else does.
Apple has everyone brain washed, including me a little while ago, and thats what ASUS should be striving for.. not hide in the shadows and let the fans do the selling.
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I don't think anyone's trying to argue that Asus is a marketing genius. But they don't have anywhere close to Apple's financial resources. So instead of a billion dollar ad campaign, they spend that money on developing and continuously supporting their products. Apple may have people brainwashed, but Asus doesn't need to resort to that, as their products speak for themselves.
And if you look at the release of the Transformer 1, which sold much faster than it could be produced initially (and it looks like the same might be the case for the TF2), you can see they must be doing something right.
Thank god I won't have to see a billion other people holding the same device as me. I want to throw up when I see everyone on the bus using the same iPhone.
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Apple may have good Customer Support but that lasts how long? 90 days without a warranty?
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Just wanted to clarify that Apple products have a 1 year warranty included, and you can just drive to an Apple store to get it serviced, and not having to pay to RMA your products by mailing it and wait...
I've been thinking about this tablet, and it's release date wondering why it's not out yet.
All I can think of is
1) Want to get rid of inventory of TF101's
or
2) Really want to wait to get the ICS out with the tablet. Because it significantly increases the performance of the Tegra 3 quad core tablet. Maybe, if they release with Honeycomb, and the Quad core is slightly better performance than Dual core, they look overpriced, and low benchmarks get circulated around the web.
Both are pure speculation without but there has to be some reason it's not out yet.
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Just wanted to clarify that Apple products have a 1 year warranty included, and you can just drive to an Apple store to get it serviced, and not having to pay to RMA your products by mailing it and wait...
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..and have to deal with an Apple Store Genius. I've seen many smarmy Apple users, but these "Geniuses" take it to a new level... No thanks.
They remind me of the "Santa's helper Elves" in A Christmas Story (yeah, the one with Ralphie).
They re definitly waiting for ICS to launch the Prime. And they are right to do so. don't ship an unfinished product, especialy when hopes and demands are so high about it.
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I've been thinking about this tablet, and it's release date wondering why it's not out yet.
All I can think of is
1) Want to get rid of inventory of TF101's
or
2) Really want to wait to get the ICS out with the tablet. Because it significantly increases the performance of the Tegra 3 quad core tablet. Maybe, if they release with Honeycomb, and the Quad core is slightly better performance than Dual core, they look overpriced, and low benchmarks get circulated around the web.
Both are pure speculation without but there has to be some reason it's not out yet.
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Or they want to be sure they have plenty of stock, and that stock it where it's supposed to go, before releasing it. I imagine there's a lot of demand, and more places than ever wanting to sell it. Logistically, it's a lot of work.
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Or they want to be sure they have plenty of stock, and that stock it where it's supposed to go, before releasing it. I imagine there's a lot of demand, and more places than ever wanting to sell it. Logistically, it's a lot of work.
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This is what I'm thinking is the case. The first time around, the TF101 was back-ordered for weeks and the dock didn't launch for a month after the tablet. This is not a fun situation to be in for the company or consumers. I'm sure that not being able to meet demand takes a toll on potential sales.
That said, it is also possible that they are wanting to deliver what had been rumored, since it was within their abilities to do. The tech blogs were making a lot of noise at the end of last month, beginning of this month about the Prime as being the first Tegra 3 and first ICS tablet to market. It does not seem out of the question that Asus would try to live up to the rumors if possible, especially while trying to justify a higher price-point than the original.
well this is making me feel better about ASUS, but my last argument is more of a nuh-uhh then anything else. I still say, even if they lack the resources there should be some small add campaign, a release date, internet adds. I was extremely lucky to find this product.
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To be fair, Asus has service centers all over their home country Taiwan that are similar to Apple's genius bars.
I think it's just because Asus is based in Taiwan that we don't see much of their advertising and great service. They seem to focus most of their efforts in their home country. If you go look around there you'll see Asus ads everywhere.
Just because they don't advertise; makes it a bad product. Most people buy IOS devices because they simply aren't geekish and just want a device that works ,(Not counting the ever annoying and ignorant iSheep/iFanboys).
What i love about Asus, is that the products speak for themselves.
I remember when the HTC Evo 4G had been announced but not yet released... and everyone was clamoring and *****ing, wondering why HTC & Sprint didn't bother with any pre-release advertising and hype. And look, it went to become one of the more popular Android offerings in recent history.
Don't sweat it...
Guys here in the US the Prime is 100% sold out on Amazon, has been since 48 hours from being made available. Doesn't matter if it has commercials or not, it's already making money and isn't even on shelves.
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Android tablets suffer from hardware-war. But the thing is that majority of consumers are mainly interested in CONTENT, not the device and its hardware. This is why Amazon Kindle jumped amazingly fast in sales even though their custom skin for Android and hardware of the device are relatively lacklustre.
Android makers mainly battle with their features and hardware. But that's not the way to make an impact.
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Tegra 3 is better than the A5 Chip.
The GPU in Tegra 3 is actually better than the SGX543, but its 2 GPU not one which is why its benchmark is higher, if you half the score in GLBenchmark for iPad 2 you see that Tegra 3 is btter. So hardware Android isnt far behind.
Stupidity? Good Marketing? Lack of supply? WHY!?! X-mas is around the corner!
also, when do you think it will be released.. or at least when will they announce the release date?
1. Lack of supply
2. Mid january for us, end of february for europe (my guess)
Go back and look at the situation (posts) surrounding the release of the original TF. It is actually good marketing. People are looking to buy tablets for the holidays, the Prime is not ready for prime time ( pun intended) but you don't want potential customers to buy something else or they will not buy your Prime when it is ready. What to do. Announce it without a firm ship date in hopes of keeping as many potential customers as possible from buying a competitors model in hopes of a timely release. It's working as many people have one or more pre-orders and are anxiously waiting and hoping.
*crickets*
Most GameStop preorders date the release for in store pick ups Dec. 19th. I'm pretty confident in it as people all over the u.s. Here, that preordered from GameStop, was given the same date. Some stores actually have them in stock now and building up the supply numbers for preorders. All stock will go to preorders first, then any left will go to people who walk in. All supplies after that will be for walk ins.
They better have my ish on the 19th
I think Asus has mastered the manufactured supply shortage rollout strategy to create buzz for their product before it hits the shelf.
Works on me, I want one
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I think Asus has mastered the manufactured supply shortage rollout strategy to create buzz for their product before it hits the shelf.
Works on me, I want one
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I think so also. Using the same strategy apple uses with iPhone/iPad. They know they have more than enough but act like they don't to stir the masses n media.
Wouldn't they have made much much MORE money, if they released it in quantity mid-November with ICS. All the glowing reviews and availability would make it THE tablet of the 2011 Holiday Season. By missing the boat on Christmas they are crippling the potential sales on this device. By the time they have stock and it's readily available, news of other quad-core tablets and the iPad 3 will be coming out and stealing their buzz. I think ASUS really missed out on a cash cow this holiday season.
I have it on order at gamestop. I was told the the 19th. Played with it in store. So I believe them
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Wouldn't they have made much much MORE money, if they released it in quantity mid-November with ICS. All the glowing reviews and availability would make it THE tablet of the 2011 Holiday Season. By missing the boat on Christmas they are crippling the potential sales on this device. By the time they have stock and it's readily available, news of other quad-core tablets and the iPad 3 will be coming out and stealing their buzz. I think ASUS really missed out on a cash cow this holiday season.
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Yes, this. All the theories about how ASUS is trying to game the system are really quite ridiculous. Just like there aren't evil masterminds putting death-ray satellites in space and extorting the world's governments, companies like ASUS don't really sit around thinking up highly unlikely scenarios by which they can manipulate people using dubious and highly unreliable tactics.
Not only is everything said above true about the holiday season, but ASUS _must_ know the value in being the first Tegra 3 tablet on the market and the imminence of some pretty stiff competition. If they had Primes for us to buy, they'd sell them to us.
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I think so also. Using the same strategy apple uses with iPhone/iPad. They know they have more than enough but act like they don't to stir the masses n media.
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Except Apple manages enough channel volume to generally meet demand.
ASUS is doing nothing more than shooting themselves in the foot. Buzz is caused by shortage, no company in there right mind would cause a shortage to create buzz.
No date because us tech nerds are so gullible we will believe anything and follow anyones word to the end of time....
Sad but so true..
It doesn't help that a lot of people here have made multiple pre-orders from different venders. This type of thing I frown upon.
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It doesn't help that a lot of people here have made multiple pre-orders from different venders. This type of thing I frown upon.
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With the way this product launch has gone, can you really blame them?
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It doesn't help that a lot of people here have made multiple pre-orders from different venders. This type of thing I frown upon.
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I don't have a problem with that in this situation. If you want the item, you apparently have to chase the stock.
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Except Apple manages enough channel volume to generally meet demand.
ASUS is doing nothing more than shooting themselves in the foot. Buzz is caused by shortage, no company in there right mind would cause a shortage to create buzz.
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Well, not really. Apple has built their launches with exclusivity, you never see new iPad or iPhone in all the stores at once. There are barely few who have the items for sale and unless you preorder very early, getting it is quite tough during release.
Now Asus is not Apple. They cannot manufacture at the same speed and they have a large number of product lines. Their 'future' is not all put behind Transformer Prime, it is not an 'event' the way iPhone or iPad is an event for Apple. It's a tablet market furiously dominated by iPads and they come there with an Android tablet. Going all out with a Prime is just stupid.
Now, we see it only from the perspective of people who will definitely buy it. Most of us have pre-orders up somewhere. Of course it is very important for us. But for tech world, tablet world and for Asus, this is just another device. This doesn't revolutionize tablets any more than the original Transformer did and as a complete device is not really above iPad 2, so it is not as important as we try to make it sound.
Let's just chill.
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With the way this product launch has gone, can you really blame them?
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tdrussell said:
I don't have a problem with that in this situation. If you want the item, you apparently have to chase the stock.
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Unless you plan on actually purchasing several, pre-ordering more than what you need is silly to me. It takes away from others and makes things extremely confusing/frustrating for the venders.
Now, this is just my personal opinion and I can see why people would do it. I am just not one of them.
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Unless you plan on actually purchasing several, pre-ordering more than what you need is silly to me. It takes away from others and makes things extremely confusing/frustrating for the venders.
Now, this is just my personal opinion and I can see why people would do it. I am just not one of them.
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If we were provided with a concrete release date and they didn't pull preorders then we won't have to have multiple preorders. For example, if I only preordered from Amazon I would be getting it Feb 2 now.
ModestMuse23 said:
Wouldn't they have made much much MORE money, if they released it in quantity mid-November with ICS. All the glowing reviews and availability would make it THE tablet of the 2011 Holiday Season. By missing the boat on Christmas they are crippling the potential sales on this device. By the time they have stock and it's readily available, news of other quad-core tablets and the iPad 3 will be coming out and stealing their buzz. I think ASUS really missed out on a cash cow this holiday season.
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At this price point, not everyone can afford to give it as a gift for Christmas. But the better potential buyer might be those who received lets say $100-200 dollars in cash for Christmas and are willing to spend the difference out of their own pocket. I would assuming anything priced over 300 dollars aren't given out as gifts very often.
So those willing to buy it, may be those who are shopping after Christmas with their extra pocket cash and not those giving it as gifts.
I would guess sales of the Kindle Fire will explode as a gift for Christmas for its price point, which most tablets don't fall into.
An example would be when the Xbox360 vs PS3 initial sales for the holidays. When they first came out the Xbox360 was much more attractive as a gift because of its price point.
Asus may not feel it is necessary to make the Holiday season before Christmas, and hitting shelves by early Jan might not cripple sales, but instead promotes hype.
Pfft...If I don't get it before January I'm not buying one....until after January.
I am extremely disappointed in your company and the poor business practices.
I purchased a transformer prime based of the specs and supposed solid company making the unit. I read many articles about the issues the prime had but made a poor decision believing the delay in reaching retail was to fix the issues with the unit. After purchasing I found that the GPS is almost useless and our way to fix it was to remove the reference to GPS from the product sheet. This was very underhanded and shows a lack of standing behind your product. I have also lost a SD card because the SD slot was poorly implemented and results in them being easily springing out of the unit.
Now I find out that instead of fixing these issues you decide to scrap the Prime within weeks of release and ship a newer unit and leave us early adopters in the cold. On top of that not only are you releasing a fixed and fully functional unit you upgrade their screen resolution again leaving us out in the cold. I realize that there is always something new on the horizon but you clearly
released an untested unit that is a black eye on you company and instead of making it right you sweep it under the carpet and hope the new
launch will make everyone forget about the troubled prime. The pathetic thing is this will work but thousands of early adopters who spent there
money on your product are left in the corner crying that we have a product that was sold to us not fully functional.
Noted.
-Asus
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Noted.
-Asus
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Yes, Asus only read the thread title and moved on. They are feeling pretty good right now. High fives all around the office.
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High fives all around the office.
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lmao
but the army of betatesters who actually paid for being betatesters are waiting outside with razorblade thin TF201s in their hands
You're just wasting bandwidth
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The new one isn't coming til q2 and it costs more.
Also is asus only allowed to release one product a year or something? Newer better stuff comes out every couple of months.
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Wow, the new features are:
1. Back design change to enhance GPS/Wifi
2. Higher resolution screen
3. 2MP front camera.
This is certainly a bug fix release. How do you sell the current Prime along side the newer one with a $100 different in price for higher res screen and modest increase in MP for front camera? The current prime will be quietly phased out shortly after the release and the price for the new one will drop to the current Prime price. I kind of feel dry fu**** now.
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I kind of feel dry fu**** now.
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would sir like some vaseline?
new hardware is always coming out. do you want to wait another six months and then another six months and then another six months when new hardware keeps getting announced. you pick your point and you dive in the river.
it's just like buying a new car, it depreciates as soon as you drive it off the lot.
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would sir like some vaseline?
new hardware is always coming out. do you want to wait another six months and then another six months and then another six months when new hardware keeps getting announced. you pick your point and you dive in the river.
it's just like buying a new car, it depreciates as soon as you drive it off the lot.
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Only problem is that there is not much new hardware here and it is releasing before they even have stock in retail. It is a bug fix release period.
Wow, people are impatient. This whole GPS thing just happened. Why does anyone expect ASUS to have already decided how they're going to handle it?
If we're in the same place at the end of January, beginning of February, then maybe it'll be time to pull out the pitchforks. Until then, hows about we relax a little?
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would sir like some vaseline?
new hardware is always coming out. do you want to wait another six months and then another six months and then another six months when new hardware keeps getting announced. you pick your point and you dive in the river.
it's just like buying a new car, it depreciates as soon as you drive it off the lot.
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If you buy a 2011 car in July, you know that the 2012's are coming out in the Fall. If you buy a 2012 car in the Fall, you'd assume it'll be "new" until the 2013's come out. How would you feel if they announced a 2012.5 immediately after you purchased? And that the dealer knew and even had the brochures in his desk and didn't show them to you? You may still buy the 2012 but at least you'd have had the option of waiting. Kind of a clunky analogy but it makes the point.
On the plus side Prime owners, all the smug cnuts rubbing our faces in it will get the shaft from Asus in about 6 months so we piss all over them too at that time. And they will have paid more to get screwed over.
The people saying to calm down because new tech comes out often are missing the point. The issue here is that it's pretty clear that the new Prime is coming out to address defects of the current one. It's not a "new" product in the traditional sense.
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Only problem is that there is not much new hardware here and it is releasing before they even have stock in retail. It is a bug fix release period.
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how are they releasing it before there is stock of the tf201? this thing is slated to be out in q2, and with the delays that surrounded the prime and tf101, it probably won't hit stores before fall.
as to the lack of new hardware,
remember the iphone 3gs, 4s?
the droid 3/4/x2?
a plethora of HTC devices?
many companies offer slightly refreshed versions of hardware as "new" versions, it's nothing new and since they are charging more for the new tablet AND it won't be out before june most likely i don't really see the problem.
if anyone is unhappy with this development, everyone here is still in their return windows, no one is holding a gun to anyones head and forcing them to keep the prime.
now what i do find issue with is them not offering to replace the back cover for prime owners who want the better functioning gps/wifi, but since the dimensions seem to be the same (since the docks are compatible) they still could offer something like that for us.
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The people saying to calm down because new tech comes out often are missing the point. The issue here is that it's pretty clear that the new Prime is coming out to address defects of the current one. It's not a "new" product in the traditional sense.
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Exactly. The Asus execs all sat in a room and said, how can we fix our design flaw issue here so it doesn't haunt us all year? Let's fix the back plate design flaw and add a couple of small new things so that it appears to be a new product and slap a new model number on it. Once released, we will quietly phase out the original prime and blame poor sales on the decision. Then we drop the price of the newer prime and all is fixed.
Which is my issue. I understand new tech comes out quickly. I had a Xoom day 1 and in less then a year upgraded it. My issue is that they are being very unethical in how they are handling the design flaws. When did it become acceptable to sell a product that is advertised with certain abilities and then saying later that because you removed it from the spec sheet after launch they are no longer accountable. And when has any company announced an upgrade before the original is truly sitting on shelves.
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Which is my issue. I understand new tech comes out quickly. I had a Xoom day 1 and in less then a year upgraded it. My issue is that they are being very unethical in how they are handling the design flaws. When did it become acceptable to sell a product that is advertised with certain abilities and then saying later that because you removed it from the spec sheet after launch they are no longer accountable. And when has any company announced an upgrade before the original is truly sitting on shelves.
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Agreed. Regardless of whether I decide to keep my Prime or not (I'm leaning towards keeping it, as I want a tablet now and don't see any other suitable alternatives currently available), I will never be buying another product from Asus again. There are plenty of other companies that make similar products. I'll 100% be using them over Asus in the future.
whoopde do. When it comes out in six months i'll sell my prime for $250 or $300 and buy one.
I am not within my window to return it as once you opened the unit many companies will not return them. Best Buy only allows a 14 day window on tablets which is also past for many of us.
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how are they releasing it before there is stock of the tf201? this thing is slated to be out in q2, and with the delays that surrounded the prime and tf101, it probably won't hit stores before fall.
as to the lack of new hardware,
remember the iphone 3gs, 4s?
the droid 3/4/x2?
a plethora of HTC devices?
many companies offer slightly refreshed versions of hardware as "new" versions, it's nothing new and since they are charging more for the new tablet AND it won't be out before june most likely i don't really see the problem.
if anyone is unhappy with this development, everyone here is still in their return windows, no one is holding a gun to anyones head and forcing them to keep the prime.
now what i do find issue with is them not offering to replace the back cover for prime owners who want the better functioning gps/wifi, but since the dimensions seem to be the same (since the docks are compatible) they still could offer something like that for us.
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Nexus tablet
This is when a Nexus tablet is needed. We know it will be updated by google and if history holds true it will work properly.
Is it even likely that Asus will give us an option to trade in (of course not for free) our TP for one of the better redesigned models coming soon?
edit: say, to this one?: http://eee.asus.com/eeepad/transformer-infinity/features/
I'm simply asking because I don't know what large companies do in these kinds of situations.
Don't bet on it.
SirGarry said:
Is it even likely that Asus will give us an option to trade in our TP for one of the better redesigned models coming soon?
edit: say, to this one?: http://eee.asus.com/eeepad/transformer-infinity/features/
I'm simply asking because I don't know what large companies do in these kinds of situations.
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Probably most definitely not.
Plus they are not even sure which processor it will use
Whether its the Qualcomm dual core or tegra3
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Probably most definitely not.
Plus they are not even sure which processor it will use
Whether its the Qualcomm dual core or tegra3
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They do know... the answer is both. On the Infinity tablet if you go wifi only tablet its tegra3 clockspeed 1.6 and if its the 4g LTE its the Qualcomm clock speed 1.5
they way i read it is that the 3g/4g version will use the dualcore, and the wifi only version will use the tegra3.
It really is too bad. The redesigned back on the Infinity looks like it will much improve the signal of both WiFi and GPS...
I highly doubt it. The only reason that they may offer some type of trade-in program would be because of the GPS fiasco with the TF201. However, it has been my understanding that ASUS is going to offer the TF201 along side the Infinity so it wouldn't make much sense to offer a trade-in program if the two models are going to sit on the shelf next to each other. In reality though, I wonder if ASUS is going to quietly push the TF201 to the way-side and slowly kill it off without trying to piss too many of the current owners off, and replace it with the Infinity.
We don't come across "these kinds of situations" very often as it is typically a piss poor business model to release or even announce future versions of tech-toy type gadgets (such as tablets) so close to each other. There is a reason why Apple releases the iPad, iPhone, iPod, etc. the way they do...
1) Announce the new product at some big event (like the one coming up next Wednesday)
2) Release the product within 1-2 months of the announcement
3) Retail pipelines are fully hydrated with the new product within a couple of months after initial release
4) Rinse and repeat a year after the original announcement
By announcing a new product so close to the original product's release date several bad things happen that affect the company's sales. The main issue is that many people will hold off on buying the original product since they know/assume that the release of the new one is near. A second issue is that future sales can be negatively impacted because of lost company loyalty. It can be frustrating for current owners of the product to find out that their shiny new gadget that was just released is going to be 'outdated' before they were expecting it to be.
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There may or may not be, but definitely is, no chance that they will do that.
Yeah, I would definitely not count on it. I am sure they will give some excuse involving our throw away society.
http://www.mobileburn.com/18732/new...nity-tablet-announced-multimedia-minded-users
"At Mobile World Congress in Barcelona, ASUS announced a new member of its successful Transformer tablet line , the Transformer Pad Infinity."
Apparently, someone didn't get the memo about the Prime !
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http://www.mobileburn.com/18732/new...nity-tablet-announced-multimedia-minded-users
"At Mobile World Congress in Barcelona, ASUS announced a new member of its successful Transformer tablet line , the Transformer Pad Infinity."
Apparently, someone didn't get the memo about the Prime !
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Failure rates of less than 1% are successful by anyone's measure in the field of consumer electronics.
Makes me wonder if there is a space some where on the prime board for a 3g chip/mod and if the HD screen will has the same connections as standard.
But no after the launch of the prime there would likely be no chance they would offer us an upgrade. They don't seem to care about us much.
Btw have they actually changed the back on new primes? Does wifi work on new primes now?
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Failure rates of less than 1% are successful by anyone's measure in the field of consumer electronics.
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So stores chose to turn down the TP because of less than 1% failure rates? Of course, those stores that eventually received any units. The word from my local store's distributor said they couldn't get a word from Asus when the next shipments would arrive. And it's seemingly random which stores get the shipments.
There are still plenty of stores waiting to receive their shipments.
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Btw have they actually changed the back on new primes? Does wifi work on new primes now?
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http://eee.asus.com/eeepad/transformer-infinity/features/
If you look there you can see the top of the backpanel has been changed to accommodate better wireless reception as the GPS and WiFi radio are placed in that region.
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http://www.mobileburn.com/18732/new...nity-tablet-announced-multimedia-minded-users
"At Mobile World Congress in Barcelona, ASUS announced a new member of its successful Transformer tablet line , the Transformer Pad Infinity."
Apparently, someone didn't get the memo about the Prime !
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well according to them, they consider Prime a success with less than 1% failure/return rate. that's what they said. nothing else to be released to contradict that statement. plus with it still being promoted at MWC outlook looks good for prime owners.
jordache16 said:
I highly doubt it. The only reason that they may offer some type of trade-in program would be because of the GPS fiasco with the TF201. However, it has been my understanding that ASUS is going to offer the TF201 along side the Infinity so it wouldn't make much sense to offer a trade-in program if the two models are going to sit on the shelf next to each other. In reality though, I wonder if ASUS is going to quietly push the TF201 to the way-side and slowly kill it off without trying to piss too many of the current owners off, and replace it with the Infinity.
We don't come across "these kinds of situations" very often as it is typically a piss poor business model to release or even announce future versions of tech-toy type gadgets (such as tablets) so close to each other. There is a reason why Apple releases the iPad, iPhone, iPod, etc. the way they do...
1) Announce the new product at some big event (like the one coming up next Wednesday)
2) Release the product within 1-2 months of the announcement
3) Retail pipelines are fully hydrated with the new product within a couple of months after initial release
4) Rinse and repeat a year after the original announcement
By announcing a new product so close to the original product's release date several bad things happen that affect the company's sales. The main issue is that many people will hold off on buying the original product since they know/assume that the release of the new one is near. A second issue is that future sales can be negatively impacted because of lost company loyalty. It can be frustrating for current owners of the product to find out that their shiny new gadget that was just released is going to be 'outdated' before they were expecting it to be.
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This. +1
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That's what eBay is for.
I had pre-ordered my original Transformer, and then my Prime. When the Prime finally came, I checked it out and then put my original Transformer up for sale on eBay. It sold quickly getting what I consider a good price. The guy who bought it is very pleased, and so am I.
That same week I also sold off my touchscreen netbook to a very pleased customer. I do the same with cameras. That way I get to have new toys and there's no high-tech junk in the closet.
Bye.
SirGarry said:
Is it even likely that Asus will give us an option to trade in (of course not for free) our TP for one of the better redesigned models coming soon?
edit: say, to this one?: http://eee.asus.com/eeepad/transformer-infinity/features/
I'm simply asking because I don't know what large companies do in these kinds of situations.
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Personally I like my Prime more than any new redesign models coming out. I've bought 3 primes and none had the BT/WIFI problem(don't care for gps), But one did have a constant rebooting problem.
The redesign models just look cheap.
Less than 1%...really? Where is that number coming from?
I got word today from a source. Not sure if it is really reliable, but it certainly sounds like Asus to me.
Asus has NO plans at all to release their 700 model until winter/Christmas holidays so they can reap in the big sales. Of course they had a couple at the electronics show, but that was just a prototype model and Asus wanted to make some headlines to boost sales. This is why they are very quiet about release time during the electronics show because they didn't want to tell anyone it would be months and months away. Bad publicity if they were to do that. It does kind of make sense a little. They completely failed on the release of their TF201 which never made Christmas/winter holiday and has been difficult to buy ever since. Asus just doesn't want that many TF201's out there, hence the very slow production rate. It was difficult to buy an TF201 3 months even after it came out. That should tell you something. I was told they released the 300 model just to be available for the potential customer's that didn't want all the issues and problems with the TF201. This is why they are almost identical. What to believe? Who knows. I do believe we won't see the TF700 until late, late this year. It does make a little sense to me and I never did understand why the TF201 was so hard to get 3 months after release.
some of it makes sense, alot doesn't. if Asus didn't want to sell prime, they could've easily stopped producing and stopped selling them. its hard for some people to get a hold of. for others its easy. Prime is still being sold. The 300 wasn't released to mask problems of prime. they always had this 3 tablet lineup in mind. I agree the 700 won't be out anytime soon, at least here in U.S.
take everything with a grain of salt. for the simple fact that people were speculating prime being discontinued only a week or 2 after release, and here we are over 6months later and its still available and being sold says alot. people working at Bestbuy here said they have plenty of them and shipments still coming in. it would probably be better if Asus were to wait to the holidays to release, they should release it with new android jellybean firmware and possibly a newer tegra3 chip. Last thing Asus needs to do is to rush a product again. they will release once they feel confident in the best timing for it.
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And the couple of hundred thousand they could sell before that would somehow prevent them from selling them for the holidays? If people are buying tablets now regardless of brand their off the market for the holidays anyway.
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I got word today from a source. Not sure if it is really reliable, but it certainly sounds like Asus to me.
Asus has NO plans at all to release their 700 model until winter/Christmas holidays so they can reap in the big sales. Of course they had a couple at the electronics show, ....
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Engadget are reporting that the Asus Transformer Pad Infinity has hit the FCC.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/21/asus-transformer-pad-infinity-series-hits-the-fcc/
Wouldn't Asus wait a bit before applying for FCC approval if Christmas was the release date in NA? What about back to school/college market in August?
The cheaper 300 is aimed for students and back to school market.
The tf201 seems extremely hard to get, even at this point I live in NL and very few shops have it In stock, and if they have it they have very few, luckly I got one of the last ones, I sent it back to Asus because the camera didn't work , 3 weeks in not a word from them, and tbh releasing the tf700t in winter is kind of bad, the iconia tab a700 is around the corner, so I may just get that instead
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Ya it makes more sense to me to release it sooner than later, look at the playbook, they waited too long with their dual core tablet and gave samsung and HTC a chance to catch up. If RIM had released the playbook before christmas like they should have they would have stolen a lot of sales from sammy and HTC.
As long as they can get a decent supply down i see no reason for Asus to wait. Just as long as they take control of their QC issues.
Later would definitely be bad news, granted the 600 nit screen is a selling point for a lot of people, but knowing that the a700 isn't going to have the lightbleed problems AsusQC has missed out on allot of the time may be what pushes me that way. I can handle the heat with a case. You'd think Asus would want that tablet out sooner than later, because the note10.1 will appeal to more of the mass public as well.
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The tf201 seems extremely hard to get, even at this point I live in NL and very few shops have it In stock, and if they have it they have very few, luckly I got one of the last ones, I sent it back to Asus because the camera didn't work , 3 weeks in not a word from them, and tbh releasing the tf700t in winter is kind of bad, the iconia tab a700 is around the corner, so I may just get that instead
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Excellent point, if the problems that the prime has are not completely taken care of I will have to consider other tab makers should I choose to update. The screen and form factor kept me with Asus so far, but the reboots on a machine that's 500+ dollars is unacceptable at this point for any reason. And I'm sure the infinity will retail for more, so it might be in the same price range as a W8 tab. Point is if I'm dropping over half a grand at the very least the basic functions better be flawless.
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I got word today from a source. Not sure if it is really reliable, but it certainly sounds like Asus to me.
Asus has NO plans at all to release their 700 model until winter/Christmas holidays so they can reap in the big sales. Of course they had a couple at the electronics show, but that was just a prototype model and Asus wanted to make some headlines to boost sales. This is why they are very quiet about release time during the electronics show because they didn't want to tell anyone it would be months and months away. Bad publicity if they were to do that. It does kind of make sense a little. They completely failed on the release of their TF201 which never made Christmas/winter holiday and has been difficult to buy ever since. Asus just doesn't want that many TF201's out there, hence the very slow production rate. It was difficult to buy an TF201 3 months even after it came out. That should tell you something. I was told they released the 300 model just to be available for the potential customer's that didn't want all the issues and problems with the TF201. This is why they are almost identical. What to believe? Who knows. I do believe we won't see the TF700 until late, late this year. It does make a little sense to me and I never did understand why the TF201 was so hard to get 3 months after release.
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Hmm, a lot of it doesn't make sense.
1.) Releasing a product for Christmas is traditionally one of the worst time of the year to launch a new product.
2.) Acer A700, product with similar spec to Asus Infinity 700 just went through FCC....
3.) Even if Infinity 700 gets released with Jelly Bean, I doubt it'll be the flagship Jelly Bean tablet (unless the rumored 7 in. Google/Asus tablet is scrapped)... And by releasing late in the yr for "Christmas"... Asus is looking at competition from W8 tablets, possible Apple 7in. variant iPad .. & already released Android tablets with very similar spec with the possibility of discounted price.
4.) Finally, showing off Infinity Pad 700 as prototype pissed off Prime owners & it sets up for major failure if the initial plan was to launch the product a full year later (a year worth of PR can have very negative effect).
The only possibility based on this rumor is...
1.) Tegra 3 version of Infinity 700 is scrapped for US at least..
2.) Asus will release S4 dual-core 3g/4g LTE version at the end of the year through US carriers... this sort of makes sense.
Actually, the Infinity 700 just went through the FCC as well. There's no way they did that 6 months ahead of time.
opentoe said:
I got word today from a source. Not sure if it is really reliable, but it certainly sounds like Asus to me.
Asus has NO plans at all to release their 700 model until winter/Christmas holidays so they can reap in the big sales. Of course they had a couple at the electronics show, but that was just a prototype model and Asus wanted to make some headlines to boost sales. This is why they are very quiet about release time during the electronics show because they didn't want to tell anyone it would be months and months away. Bad publicity if they were to do that. It does kind of make sense a little. They completely failed on the release of their TF201 which never made Christmas/winter holiday and has been difficult to buy ever since. Asus just doesn't want that many TF201's out there, hence the very slow production rate. It was difficult to buy an TF201 3 months even after it came out. That should tell you something. I was told they released the 300 model just to be available for the potential customer's that didn't want all the issues and problems with the TF201. This is why they are almost identical. What to believe? Who knows. I do believe we won't see the TF700 until late, late this year. It does make a little sense to me and I never did understand why the TF201 was so hard to get 3 months after release.
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The TF700 will be released by the end of Q2, in fact it just passed FCC approval. As to the other points, your source is severely messed up.
tmeader said:
Actually, the Infinity 700 just went through the FCC as well. There's no way they did that 6 months ahead of time.
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That's basically what I said in an earlier post.
Thanks to Gary for confirming a late Q2 release. I hope this is all of NA and not just a USA release.
Who still skeptical now? Lol
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The TF700 will be released by the end of Q2, in fact it just passed FCC approval. As to the other points, your source is severely messed up.
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Thanks for the clarfication. it was like I said before. [email protected] sources being severely messed up.
to the doubters lol
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That's basically what I said in an earlier post.
Thanks to Gary for confirming a late Q2 release. I hope this is all of NA and not just a USA release.
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Its for overseas first, I believe. Na release will follow afterwards. this can change though. they call the shots. could surprise everyone and release all at once.
I'm ok with the Prime right now.They just need to fix these dang browser issues. Tegra 3 (Quad Core) should be just as fast a laptop..if not faster at browsing web pages.But the next update better be the answer I've been waiting on or it's hello W8 tablet,Samsung tablet. They actually have 2 speakers on their new budget tablet facing the user (brilliant). Yet the TF700 will still have the same design as the TF201 with the speaker facing away from the user which makes you have to put your hand near it to hear it good. Asus needs to take some damn notes on design for 1 thing !!
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I hope this is all of NA and not just a USA release.
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+1 on that one.
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Gary Key said:
The TF700 will be released by the end of Q2, in fact it just passed FCC approval. As to the other points, your source is severely messed up.
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Thank you Gary! Your confirmation will be appreciated by many here just itching to get their hands on this table....myself included
Already pre-ordered the Infinity 64GB + Dock in Norway, so I'm glad to see it's confirmed for Q2.
To put it this way, if the Infinity delays to Q3 or Q4, I will most likely buy a Win8-tablet instead. And I'm pretty sure I'm not alone with those thoughts
pileot said:
Ya it makes more sense to me to release it sooner than later, look at the playbook, they waited too long with their dual core tablet and gave samsung and HTC a chance to catch up. If RIM had released the playbook before christmas like they should have they would have stolen a lot of sales from sammy and HTC.
As long as they can get a decent supply down i see no reason for Asus to wait. Just as long as they take control of their QC issues.
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People are buying new Primes today with QC issues.
Gary Key said:
The TF700 will be released by the end of Q2, in fact it just passed FCC approval. As to the other points, your source is severely messed up.
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Apparently my source is "messed up", so lets move on to an more important issue.
Assuming the TF700 will be about $600-$700 (it is a step up from the Prime) can you confirm there finally will be quality control on these products and all the features work like intended? I've had 5 Prime tablets. All with QC issues. If I would ever consider buying another Asus product again I'd like to hear from the source itself. If not, I'll just make a half mortgage payment.
opentoe said:
assuming the tf700 will be about $600-$700 (it is a step up from the prime) can you confirm there finally will be quality control on these products and all the features work like intended? I've had 5 prime tablets. All with qc issues. If i would ever consider buying another asus product again i'd like to hear from the source itself. If not, i'll just make a half mortgage payment.
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