Running 2.17 ROMS without firmware update? - HTC EVO 3D

Hey guys, I have been runing 2.17 ROMS for awhile now with my PRI version at 1.24.003. (I think thats an older firmware version) There is a lot of buzz about not doing that and that I should take the OTA and unlock again (im on Hboot 1.5) which is going to be a pain in the ass. Whats the worse that can happen? I haven't really been having problems so far

vinc3stylez said:
Hey guys, I have been runing 2.17 ROMS for awhile now with my PRI version at 1.24.003. (I think thats an older firmware version) There is a lot of buzz about not doing that and that I should take the OTA and unlock again (im on Hboot 1.5) which is going to be a pain in the ass. Whats the worse that can happen? I haven't really been having problems so far
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as long as you have the stock recovery installed and are relocked then i say go for it... you should have no issues with the update

vinc3stylez said:
Hey guys, I have been runing 2.17 ROMS for awhile now with my PRI version at 1.24.003. (I think thats an older firmware version) There is a lot of buzz about not doing that and that I should take the OTA and unlock again (im on Hboot 1.5) which is going to be a pain in the ass. Whats the worse that can happen? I haven't really been having problems so far
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Honestly if I were you I'd get the updates or just downgrade to hboot 1.4
Swyped from mah 3vo!

alainater said:
Honestly if I were you I'd get the updates or just downgrade to hboot 1.4
Swyped from mah 3vo!
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haha its just a bit uncomfortable bricking my phone on purpose.

vinc3stylez said:
haha its just a bit uncomfortable bricking my phone on purpose.
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i understand that one... thats why im still on hboot 1.5

vinc3stylez said:
haha its just a bit uncomfortable bricking my phone on purpose.
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wloftus said:
i understand that one... thats why im still on hboot 1.5
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It's really not that bad. If you don't get the timing right then it doesn't brick and if you do get it right then it bricks in the right mode. Pretty safe go for it!
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notsointeresting said:
It's really not that bad. If you don't get the timing right then it doesn't brick and if you do get it right then it bricks in the right mode. Pretty safe go for it!
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so you have personally done the downgrade from hboot 1.5 to hboot 1.4?... if so can you please provide the method you used to do it...was it unknownforces's methid?

notsointeresting said:
It's really not that bad. If you don't get the timing right then it doesn't brick and if you do get it right then it bricks in the right mode. Pretty safe go for it!
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I'm so tempted to.

Mine came with 1.4 soooo yeah haha
Swyped from mah 3vo!

I updated the radio and firmware when it came out by flashing Freeza All In One Firmware, Radio, and other bits zip. Haven't had a problem. There were some issues of people flashing individual firmware bits and bricking, but Freeza's All in One worked fine.

raptoro07 said:
I updated the radio and firmware when it came out by flashing Freeza All In One Firmware, Radio, and other bits zip. Haven't had a problem. There were some issues of people flashing individual firmware bits and bricking, but Freeza's All in One worked fine.
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I don't think hboot 1.5ers can do it that way though.
The most common issues with running old firmware with newer software are wakelocks and random reports/freezes. You are far better off updating your firmware one way or another.

Hmm I'm on PRI Version 1.15_003 with the latest version of MeanRom and Chad's kernel with no issues.

raptoro07 said:
I updated the radio and firmware when it came out by flashing Freeza All In One Firmware, Radio, and other bits zip. Haven't had a problem. There were some issues of people flashing individual firmware bits and bricking, but Freeza's All in One worked fine.
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Yeah, I tried just updating the radio and it killed it, it would just keep rebooting so I downgraded then flashed freezas aio zip and it worked fine
Swyped from mah 3vo!

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Sorry for all the questions

I'm content with the official last real release of virus infected. Is there a way just to upgrade radio and ciq remove?
You'll shoot your eye out (in 3D)
babyschmoof said:
I'm content with the official last real release of virus infected. Is there a way just to upgrade radio and ciq remove?
You'll shoot your eye out (in 3D)
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Ya just wait till the new update comes out from a dev either in a rom or what not then flash it. That would let you update your radio.
babyschmoof said:
I'm content with the official last real release of virus infected. Is there a way just to upgrade radio and ciq remove?
You'll shoot your eye out (in 3D)
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Most of our roms have the ciq removed already....since TrevE made that little discovery a long time ago it "should" be a non issue. See below for the radio info.
reaper24 said:
Ya just wait till the new update comes out from a dev either in a rom or what not then flash it. That would let you update your radio.
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^Reaper your info is a little confusing / inaccurate here^
Radio's are flashed from H-boot and are totally not rom related at all. If you're on h-boot 1.4 you just boot into bootloader with the radio on the root of your sd card named "PG86IMG.zip" and flash regardless of your rom. If you have h-boot 1.5 you are SOL and cannot flash radios with out returning to stock and taking an OTA update and re-rooting. Anyways there is a thread stickied in the development section by gu1dry with all of our available radios except the latest which just came out the other day here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1193101...... Read it carefully and understand it before you flash a radio. The latest radio can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1443592 If you get a bad flash, or do it wrong, or your battery dies while you're flashing it, or you flash a gsm radio to a cdma device....YOU WILL BRICK YOUR PHONE.
Any other relevant improvements from that OTA update the other day will be in a future update to the rom you're currently running......I believe this is what reaper24 meant, but it wasn't really worded correctly.
hockeyfamily737 said:
Most of our roms have the ciq removed already....since TrevE made that little discovery a long time ago it "should" be a non issue. See below for the radio info.
^Reaper your info is a little confusing / inaccurate here^
Radio's are flashed from H-boot and are totally not rom related at all. If you're on h-boot 1.4 you just boot into bootloader with the radio on the root of your sd card named "PG86IMG.zip" and flash regardless of your rom. If you have h-boot 1.5 you are SOL and cannot flash radios with out returning to stock and taking an OTA update and re-rooting. Anyways there is a thread stickied in the development section by gu1dry with all of our available radios except the latest which just came out the other day here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1193101...... Read it carefully and understand it before you flash a radio. The latest radio can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1443592 If you get a bad flash, or do it wrong, or your battery dies while you're flashing it, or you flash a gsm radio to a cdma device....YOU WILL BRICK YOUR PHONE.
Any other relevant improvements from that OTA update the other day will be in a future update to the rom you're currently running......I believe this is what reaper24 meant, but it wasn't really worded correctly.
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What I was meaning is if he has S off he could wait till a dev throws out a rom with all the updates in it. I know on the the new Hboot you have to go back to stock and flash the OTA software update.
reaper24 said:
What I was meaning is if he has S off he could wait till a dev throws out a rom with all the updates in it. I know on the the new Hboot you have to go back to stock and flash the OTA software update.
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I knew what you meant, but it was worded as such that someone might believe flashing an updated rom would update their radio.
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hockeyfamily737 said:
I knew what you meant, but it was worded as such that someone might believe flashing an updated rom would update their radio.
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If S-off you should be able to update all that stuff with a rom if it's cooked in by a dev . Thanks for pointing it out tho.
reaper24 said:
If S-off you should be able to update all that stuff with a rom if it's cooked in by a dev . Thanks for pointing it out tho.
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I have never seem a radio cooked into ROM before. I've only seem them packaged for bootloader flashing, or in the old days on the evo 4g, some you could flash with Amon RA recovery. Even then, I still never saw one cooked in a ROM.
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k2buckley said:
I have never seem a radio cooked into ROM before. I've only seem them packaged for bootloader flashing, or in the old days on the evo 4g, some you could flash with Amon RA recovery. Even then, I still never saw one cooked in a ROM.
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Thought virus had a rom that had radios cooked into it back on the OG Evo days. Was a big rom user and I remember having to downgrade or upgrade your radios through amon with the rom.
reaper24 said:
Thought virus had a rom that had radios cooked into it back on the OG Evo days. Was a big rom user and I remember having to downgrade or upgrade your radios through amon with the rom.
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No, it was a radio preference. It's what the person above says. If there's a radio in the ROM. It requires a bootloader flash.
DDiaz007 said:
No, it was a radio preference. It's what the person above says. If there's a radio in the ROM. It requires a bootloader flash.
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I was meaning they did make zips to flash with amon back in the day radio wise and yes some you did have to flash through boot.

Idea In Development-Installing our kernels from recovery :)

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1509754
This new app for sensation/e3d etc. got me thinking. It is for devices that have S-ON but are unlocked. I believe I can fix all of our boot image installing woes with the process this app outlined. Once I finish my physics homework, I am going to get some scripts cooking and I think we can have roms install the boot images from recovery.
con247 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1509754
This new app for sensation/e3d etc. got me thinking. It is for devices that have S-ON but are unlocked. I believe I can fix all of our boot image installing woes with the process this app outlined. Once I finish my physics homework, I am going to get some scripts cooking and I think we can have roms install the boot images from recovery.
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That would be awesome if you could get that working. That would definitely have me unlock and root. I've just been screwing with my Inc waiting for this to happen. Thanks
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It will eliminate mainver error too.
con247 said:
It will eliminate mainver error too.
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that would cut alot of thread derailing as well lol
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I saw this also and immediately thought that it would be awesome for the rezound hope you can get this to work
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Its gonna work... it won't have the nice app but it will work. And it will be easy. Really Easy. For both devs and users
con247 said:
Its gonna work... it won't have the nice app but it will work. And it will be easy. Really Easy. For both devs and users
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If you can fix my MAINVERSION error, I would forever grateful! Sick of having to go into the roms and changing the android info! Its just a pain having this S-ON to deal with.
Yeah it works Should resolve mainver problems
boogerburns said:
If you can fix my MAINVERSION error, I would forever grateful! Sick of having to go into the roms and changing the android info! Its just a pain having this S-ON to deal with.
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What I don't get is why the devs can't just agree en masse which mainver they're going to use, and then everyone uses that version.
Well they shouldn't use one higher than the RUUs we have so we can restore if necessary. I have had to RUU before because I corrupted my cache partition once.
But some devs used the ICS leak mainver and some people were idiots and installed the leak before it was ready and got their mainvers higher than what we have RUUs for.
con247 said:
Well they shouldn't use one higher than the RUUs we have so we can restore if necessary. I have had to RUU before because I corrupted my cache partition once.
But some devs used the ICS leak mainver and some people were idiots and installed the leak before it was ready and got their mainvers higher than what we have RUUs for.
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That's one of the reasons I wait a day or so to flash a new ROM if it just getting released. I always wait to see what the problems are first.
I just check it first and replace the android-info as needed. I am still on the 1.x mainver because I am careful and I was one of the first to flash the ICS leaks
con247 said:
I just check it first and replace the android-info as needed. I am still on the 1.x mainver because I am careful and I was one of the first to flash the ICS leaks
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I didn't know about the entire mainver thing until the leak came out. I'm new to HTC phones and stuff. But I'm on the 2.x mainver just because I forgot to change it the other day when I was in a flash frenzy. Oh well
u can roll it back if you want
con247 said:
I just check it first and replace the android-info as needed. I am still on the 1.x mainver because I am careful and I was one of the first to flash the ICS leaks
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This will be great once you get it running.
I'm curious what the reason is that you want to remain on 1.x when the official update brought the phone to 2.x? I'm on 2.x but running a ROM from 1.x even though they just came out with an update for 2.x because I want to keep the red theme made for it.
Btw... the dsb kernel was installed in recovery, like the AnthraX one is. Flashed a zip in recovery that made the PHzip that flashed as an update. Is this different than that?
I haven't flashed the new radios and stuff.
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u can roll it back if you want
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and how would one go about doing that? You mean that crazy method that could brick the phone? If that's the case, I'll just stick with the one I have
con247 said:
I haven't flashed the new radios and stuff.
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Understood. I'm wondering why you've chosen not to, not why it hasn't happened technically.
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Understood. I'm wondering why you've chosen not to, not why it hasn't happened technically.
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If it ain't broke, don't fix it... I don't want to risk ****ty battery life or something for better signal because I have no signal/speed issues.
WasabiWa83 said:
and how would one go about doing that? You mean that crazy method that could brick the phone? If that's the case, I'll just stick with the one I have
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It isn't that crazy or that dangerous. I have flashed my misc a few times when I was seeing if I could hex edit the CID to HTC__001 instead of VZW__001 which would have allowed HTC dev unlock before we got their blessing.

ics radio question.

Do i need to be on the new radio to run an ics custom rom? Im currently still on gb and i dont want to relock and run the ruu.
mighty_markus12 said:
Do i need to be on the new radio to run an ics custom rom? Im currently still on gb and i dont want to relock and run the ruu.
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Yes and no. No, you can just run one of the new ROMs with the patch that is posted. Yes, you should just update and run the RUU because things will be, in general, much smoother for you. Your choice, though.
What are some of the bugs of the new radio?
Bugs? I've got none. It runs incredibly well. And I'm on the Dev edition of CleanROM.
Or just flash an older ics rom. Cleanrom 3 is based off the old leaks, so you don't have to flash leaked firmware.
i asked because usually you do not have to be on a specific radio to run a rom. i don't really like running leaked radios.
mighty_markus12 said:
i asked because usually you do not have to be on a specific radio to run a rom. i don't really like running leaked radios.
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I hear you on the radio part, that's part of the reason I haven't played with the leak yet. I'm always leery of flashing radios.
djwalter said:
I hear you on the radio part, that's part of the reason I haven't played with the leak yet. I'm always leery of flashing radios.
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yeah ive decided to hold off until we get the ota.
mighty_markus12 said:
yeah ive decided to hold off until we get the ota.
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I've been pretty jittery to flash it but I'm leaning towards the official ota as well.
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[FIRMWARE] ICS/GB Firmware combo's

S-OFF DEVICES ONLY
I WILL ONLY SAY THIS ONCE, IF YOU HAVE DATA ISSUES FROM SWITCHING FIRMWARES YOU MUST FLASH THE STOCK RECOVERY AND PERFORM A FACTORY RESET IN HBOOT
DO NOT S-ON THE ENG OR JB HBOOT OR IT WILL BRICK YOUR DEVICE
ANYTHING DONE AT THIS POINT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY NOT MINE
So what is this?
Well ill answer that, these are Hboot/Radio/Firmware Combos
What do you do with these?
The purpose of these is avoid performing a full RUU if you would like to upgrade or downgrade firmwares/radios
So why do these include Hboot/radio/firmware files, cant we just flash the radios?
NO, mix and matching all of these has be known to cause data issues. Its best to flash the whole set to prevent data issues
How do you flash these?
Assuming you checked the MD5 sum, just rename these to PH98IMG.zip and place on the root of your external sdcard
New firmware patch huh?
This is simply for those upgrading to ICS firmware on a GB rom Or and ICS rom that had the gingerbread patch flashed over it
Whats the difference between the stock Hboots and the JB/ENG Hboots?
Simply, These Hboots have fastboot commands enabled WITHOUT unlocking the bootloader
I suggest if you use fastboot alot to use these hboots
Thanks to CharliesTheMan i now have a spot on AndroidFileHost
Heres how to tell which file you need
Each file will be named accordingly
[Firmware][Hboot version][JB or Stock hboot][Date of leak if applicable]
So an example would be [GB][2.11][JB]PH98IMG.zip
i suggest you check the MD5 and if you dont know what an MD5 is then you need to research what it is before flashing any of these
Here's the Link: http://www.androidfilehost.com/?a=show&w=files&flid=3054
Thanks to the JuopunutBear Team for getting us S-off, Jcase for the leaked Hboot
Very very nice. Thank you. Flash this and a GB rom, and it's on old firmware.
superchilpil said:
Since i didnt want to run the gingerbread ruu and mess with nandroiding back to get the eng hboot i made this
This is the eng hboot bundled up with the old firmware, you ust use the old firmware patch to run ics roms after flashing this
just place it on the root of your sd card, rename, and reboot to hboot
It will reboot once during the flash this is normal
DISCLAIMER: IT IS NOT MY FAULT IF YOU BRICK YOUR DEVICE DOING THIS, YOU MUST BE S-OFF AND AS ALWAYS CHECK THE MD5 SUM
DOWNLOAD:http://www.mediafire.com/?4i8sfbj74a9xqzb
MD5:10005eafcdc1e242d9d8ed91b7d68210
OLD FIRMWARE PATCH: http://www.mediafire.com/?8v3a2al9129gp9h
Credits go to Jcase for the hboot, and to whom ever made the old firmware patch
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This is what I've been running by default after s-off. Has been rock solid. Don't think I'll change for now as many are having issues and/or experimenting. I'll just wait and see what people come up with. Great job in doing this...
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How's battery life ? Will flash later.
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jclendineng said:
How's battery life ? Will flash later.
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So far I'd have to say it's better, and it nay just be me but everything seems smother overall
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Thanks man! Set this up with Newts XxX rom and having no problems! I am pretty new to HTC phones coming from a DroidX. How do I know if the ENG installed correctly? I know the old firmware is loaded up right.
ih8mydroid said:
Thanks man! Set this up with Newts XxX rom and having no problems! I am pretty new to HTC phones coming from a DroidX. How do I know if the ENG installed correctly? I know the old firmware is loaded up right.
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The hboot will say ENG S-OFF near the top.
con247 said:
The hboot will say ENG S-OFF near the top.
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Con with the answers. Sweet! This works like a charm!
This works perfectly and i do think i notice a slight smoother response on most things then before plus the radios like me again. Awesome job
on a side note : con247 every time i see you post something i look at your speedtest sig and get so jealous and angry at the same time since i cant get anything over 8 mbit upload (and that's business class internet) where im at.... kudos to you and fml lol
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How's battery life ? Will flash later.
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Seems better....and I've been using the phone more lately on 4G....but who knows.
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dajmanjt said:
This works perfectly and i do think i notice a slight smoother response on most things then before plus the radios like me again. Awesome job
on a side note : con247 every time i see you post something i look at your speedtest sig and get so jealous and angry at the same time since i cant get anything over 8 mbit upload (and that's business class internet) where im at.... kudos to you and fml lol
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Kudos to his University's internet connection? Show me what you have at home....
So if we are on ICS, we flash this to get back to GB?
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i'm assuming since it's locked but with s-off we need to unlock the bootloader with htc again right? also the patch works but cache still doesnt mount right
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So if we are on ICS, we flash this to get back to GB?
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This will only downgrade your firmware. Your rom should be left intact. However you will need to flash the GB firmware patch over your rom immediately after doing this or you will have problems. If you want to downgrade android itself, flash a gb rom after doing this or just flash the whole gb ruu
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So if we are on ICS, we flash this to get back to GB?
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this is the hboot for gb or ics depending on which rom you are using or about to install. the firmware patch is to fix most mounts if using ics roms
Thanks guys. So IF I also run the Firmware patch (For ICS) would it still work for a GB ROM?
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this is the hboot for gb or ics depending on which rom you are using or about to install. the firmware patch is to fix most mounts if using ics roms
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The firmware patch also fixes an audio lib that causes constant reboots.
I am on stock rooted 2.01 with all original firmware. If I use both of the files is the OP along with one of the ICS roms will everything work correctly? If not what would I need to do? I would prefer to stay on the GB firmware as I have been getting great service, 3g and 4G speeds.
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i'm assuming since it's locked but with s-off we need to unlock the bootloader with htc again right? also the patch works but cache still doesnt mount right
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Seriously.... People when you S-OFF YOU DO NOT HAVE TO UNLOCK YOU BOOTLOADER!!!!! S-OFF = UNLOCKED IS THIS EVERYONE'S FIRST PHONE?!?!?!
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Clay333 said:
I am on stock rooted 2.01 with all original firmware. If I use both of the files is the OP along with one of the ICS roms will everything work correctly? If not what would I need to do? I would prefer to stay on the GB firmware as I have been getting great service, 3g and 4G speeds.
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If your stock then you don't need to flash the hboot file unless you just want the eng hboot, you could just use cons for that
This is meant to downgrade those who upgraded their firmware to the new ics leak
But if you just want to run an ics Rom with the old firmware then just flash the patch in recovery and you should be good
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Looking foward to RUU ultility of official Sprint ICS 2.89.651.2

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Looking foward to RUU
Anyone can get it??
I NEED IT!
GuiDeJuShi said:
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Looking foward to RUU
Anyone can get it??
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I was messing around with the new boot loader on a new phone and managed to unlock and get a recovery, but SU wouldn't flash, then it said it flashed, but still didn't fash, So I went ahead and tried to flash a rom anyway hoping it would work because the rom was rooted, Wrong answer. lol
And the ONE thing I DIDNT do when I got the CWM was MAKE A BACKUP!!! So I screwed up bad.
Now I've bee stuck at splashscreens for 2 days on a 3 day old phone.
Yeah, me too. I need the RUU as well. I am running mean rom right now with the kernel that allows it to work with hboot 1.58. But I would like to be able to go back to stock if necessary.
If you're stuck with 1.58 like me I suggest you install mean rom and flash the kernel in the Mean-Rom folder on your SD card so your wifi and 4G work.
Yeah id like to have the official ICS RUU as well.
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Yeah id like to have the official ICS RUU as well.
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This is exactly what Sprint and HTC wanted to accomplish. I would give it time. The devs should have a smooth running ICS / kernel soon. I am betting they will have something for all HBOOTs out there. I am still sitting on my Mean ROM for GB... with 1.4. And I will wait to make the leap to ICS... because I don't feel we should have to leave 1.4
I like having the option of reverting back to stock in case I screw something up lol.
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Yep gotta love s-off am I right?
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http://uppit.com/o8enbe4dswzs/RUU_S...06__NV_NV_SPCS_1.43_release_271101_signed.exe
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http://uppit.com/o8enbe4dswzs/RUU_S...06__NV_NV_SPCS_1.43_release_271101_signed.exe
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This link is not working, where else can I find this?
Tipharet said:
This link is not working, where else can I find this?
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http://d-h.st/OXD
iNdioNicarao said:
http://d-h.st/OXD
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Thanks for this!

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