I am trying to understand this phenomena.. I realize this is more of a philosophical topic than a technical topic, but its something I think about ever day when I read the forums and try to help people with stuff.
To start, my good friend, and my wife have rezounds. To be fair, my wife could care less about the ROM she is running, but, I like to keep her updated. My friend and I go back and forth about what rom is better, he likes Rrez rom, I like Cleanrom, but we flash back and forth.
Out of the 3 of us, We have never had any of the problems that I see other people having. Why?
We all (you guys too) have the same phones, we flash the same software, how is it that Joe gets 24 hours of battery life, flawlessly smooth performance, crystal clear reception.. while John gets an overheating battery, stuttering performance, unusable signal and 4 hours of battery life?
I continue to read posts from people complaining that this rom sucks or that rom sucks..
So.. is it the PERSON, the PHONE or...
maybe not all rezounds are the same inside, and maybe some software does not work with some versions of the phone. That seems pretty ridiculous though.
When I flash mine and my wife's phone, i usually "race" them to see who's is fastest (ya.. its stupid i know). But from the first power down, to wiping to flashing the rom. i press the buttons at the exact same time, and both phones complete the process at the exact same time, boot up in the exact same time..
you get the idea.
just to see if there are any differences, I did a clean flash of clean rom 4.1 on both phones, and let them sit with the screens on, full brightness for 1 hour. they BOTH drained to 83%.
These phones were purchased 3 months apart, and one from VZW and the other from Amazon.
my buddy has never had any of these problems either (his wife has a rezound, but she wont let him flash it)
none of us have had problems, why?
I am not trying to discount anyone's problems, obviously if your phone is overheating, its not something you are making up.. but why is it that YOUR phone heats up, yet mine doesn't
This is a real question, and I think it deserves some sort of analysis. A real answer could go a long way to helping people who are having problems others are not.
Case in point, people are complaining that the radios in the new leak suck. They are getting crappy reception and they regret updating.
i LOVE the new radios!!! i get AWESOME reception!!.
Right now im sitting at 17 hours with 30% left and I tethered my laptop at school for 3 hours while doing homework at school.
A few days ago, I let the battery die (didnt charge it overnight) and it charged over 60% in 30 min, it was awesome lol
60% in 30 minutes? on the new ICS firmware? it took me 1 hour and 20 minutes to go up from 14% to 70% today...
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60% in 30 minutes? on the new ICS firmware? it took me 1 hour and 20 minutes to go up from 14% to 70% today...
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trust me, I was just as surprised as you, I was sitting in lecture and it shut off on me. I went to study and plugged it in with the HTC charger and the supplied cable (i love that cable) while I read over some material, 30 min later I unplugged it and it was at 62%, I almost fell over lol
im on 4.1 with stock kernel. I flash my phone so much that I dont have **** installed on it (battery saver wise or whatever). It just a normal phone. I dont OC it, I dont run apps that close programs..just stock build
I've wondered the same thing. I'm somewhere in the middle here. I have some heat problems (can't charge and use a lot of mobile network, heavy games push me to 120-ish), my battery life kinda sucks (it's great, as long as I don't use it... but I get like 2 hrs screen on time). Overall though, it's not a terrible situation, and I still dig the phone.
But stories of 24 hour battery life and never seeing temps above 90 sound like tall tales to me.
I think some of it is that we all have our own interpretation of "moderate" use. I'd imagine some people think two hours of screen time is moderate use (a few facebook checks, some phone calls, and some email over the course of a day). To me it's extremely light... I'm at an hour+ by 10AM most days, 2 by the end of work, then I run with gps, play a game or two in the evening, and you get the idea.
I can't speak for those who have radio/ reception problems... but I've become pretty convinced that the other two main "issues" are mostly due to perception.
I think some of this may be location... if you are in an area where reception is spotty, your phone works harder to gain a connection, gets hotter doing it and uses more battery power.
I went from last Thursday to Monday morning with zero WiFi and the phone was using more power than my normal use, but the connection was solid, speeds were solid as well. I normally use WiFi most of the day because if I am at home or at work, I have a good solid WiFi signal and the phone uses less power (for me at least). My test over the weekend was a good test for me showing that while 4G was solid, if I have WiFi available I save battery power using it.
In general, I have rarely had issues with any phone that I use. Never had to replace one or return it for defects or any other reason. I am good to my equipment though, my Dinc still looks brand new and I got it pre-launch.
It's about 20% phone problems and 80% problems with the people. A good majority of people who flash and then complain are those who don't know what the heck they're doing. In the case of the new firmware, many didn't follow the directions to a T. They got a bad flash or a bad download. Then there are those who flash a new ROM and don't take the time to read everything before doing so. These are the 80% that are essentially complete morons. They do idiotic things that just can't be explained. These are the types of people who should either not be flashing ROMs or who should be using iPhones. In my opinion, if you don't read everything and then complain about something not working correctly, it's your fault.
That being said, there are phones that just suck straight from the factory. Some people who really know what they're doing have these phones and get bad results when running the new firmware and different ROMs. There are plenty of these people on here that have these issues. I feel bad for these people. I certainly don't feel bad for the other 80% who go into a thread and complain that the ROM sucks or something when it's completely their fault.
EDIT: And yes, much of the battery drain and temp problems can be blamed on location for those who have phones that just can't seem to grab a 4g signal for too long. I live in an area where my 4g is solid 99% of the time, so I have no issues. I was in an area about 2 hours south of where I live the other day, though, that had crap 4g signal. My phone definitely drained pretty quickly that day and did get a bit hot.
These are all good points. and actually I never considered location before,
And i thin you are right on with the perception. There has to be a way to standardize some of the stuff to rule out perception. So when people say "man i get crappy battery" We can say "well did you run the (insert standardized battery test) test? what was the result?"
say the test was something like leaving the screen on for 2 hours, starting with a full charge and in airplane mode to rule out reception. Theoretically, all phones with the same ROM and kernel should drain the same amount ..
It is also common for people to see a new mod/rom etc.. and rush to try it out without doing any prep for how they will recover if it doesn't work, how to go back, ramifications of the changes they make... checking first to see if others had problems with it first... etc.
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It is also common for people to see a new mod/rom etc.. and rush to try it out without doing any prep for how they will recover if it doesn't work, how to go back, ramifications of the changes they make... checking first to see if others had problems with it first... etc.
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Exactly. The "80%" problem in my post. People don't read. It's a shame.
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Exactly. The "80%" problem in my post. People don't read. It's a shame.
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lol, Rom devs should put in a system where new people are required to read the entire "read me" file along with flash instructions, and then answer a 20 question test and score at least 90% on it. Then, and ONLY then do they get the DL link After 10 or so times of doing this, the requirement would be lifted.
this idea makes me laugh..
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lol, Rom devs should put in a system where new people are required to read the entire "read me" file along with flash instructions, and then answer a 20 question test and score at least 90% on it. Then, and ONLY then do they get the DL link After 10 or so times of doing this, the requirement would be lifted.
this idea makes me laugh..
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Shouldn't make you laugh... it's a great idea!
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lol, Rom devs should put in a system where new people are required to read the entire "read me" file along with flash instructions, and then answer a 20 question test and score at least 90% on it. Then, and ONLY then do they get the DL link After 10 or so times of doing this, the requirement would be lifted.
this idea makes me laugh..
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Hahaha that's actually a really good idea lol I would change it to 95% or higher, though.
i know for a fact i'm not blaming it on the rom, or not reading right, or not flashing the firmware right.
i did everything right, and i'm 150% positive of that. thing is, when a rom runs great for the first 4 days or so, then out of nowehre i'm going from 18 hours of battery to 5 hours of battery, clearly there's an issue SOMEWHERE.
i'd love to blame it on verizon trying to push 4g here, but i run on wifi most of the time, so i don't think that's it.
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i know for a fact i'm not blaming it on the rom, or not reading right, or not flashing the firmware right.
i did everything right, and i'm 150% positive of that. thing is, when a rom runs great for the first 4 days or so, then out of nowehre i'm going from 18 hours of battery to 5 hours of battery, clearly there's an issue SOMEWHERE.
i'd love to blame it on verizon trying to push 4g here, but i run on wifi most of the time, so i don't think that's it.
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I've read your posts in the threads. I meant to put that in my post that you weren't one of the 80% I was talking about. I think yours is a case of the other 20%. Or it could be something to do with the firmware going all bonkers on you.
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I've read your posts in the threads. I meant to put that in my post that you weren't one of the 80% I was talking about. I think yours is a case of the other 20%. Or it could be something to do with the firmware going all bonkers on you.
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by the way, your sig is aweomse.
And yes, **** does happen sometime. but its usually clear from the way the post is written that the person was clueless.
posts usually start like this
"I tried searching but didnt find the answer...."
and then they ask how to flash the rom, or something else that has been covered 1000 times (you have to UPGRADE TO NEW LEAK FIRST)
yeah man, i really hope it's not! everything went smoothly...well, almost smoothly, i was one of the few where the phone froze on the white HTC screeen, and i did a batt pull, and when it rebooted, it began the second step of installation..but i have yet to have any force closes or anything. maybe i'm subconsciously using my phone more? i really don't think so. screen on time should pretty much help judge that, and it's not showing anything out of the ordinary...and better battery stats isn't showing any crazy up time..my awake time is like 39%..i mean, maybe the 4g issue is it? idk..like i said, i run wifi often, so that means mobile networks OFF...
then again, i'm running just 3g tonight ot see if 4g comes on again, and 3g keeps turning off, and switching to 1x..like, constantly...so they MUST still be doing something down here..
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by the way, your sig is aweomse.
And yes, **** does happen sometime. but its usually clear from the way the post is written that the person was clueless.
posts usually start like this
"I tried searching but didnt find the answer...."
and then they ask how to flash the rom, or something else that has been covered 1000 times (you have to UPGRADE TO NEW LEAK FIRST)
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Hahahahaha, that's a dead giveaway that they didn't really look lol.
And thanks If you click on my sig it'll take you to my thread to look at others I've done lately
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yeah man, i really hope it's not! everything went smoothly...well, almost smoothly, i was one of the few where the phone froze on the white HTC screeen, and i did a batt pull, and when it rebooted, it began the second step of installation..but i have yet to have any force closes or anything. maybe i'm subconsciously using my phone more? i really don't think so. screen on time should pretty much help judge that, and it's not showing anything out of the ordinary...and better battery stats isn't showing any crazy up time..my awake time is like 39%..i mean, maybe the 4g issue is it? idk..like i said, i run wifi often, so that means mobile networks OFF...
then again, i'm running just 3g tonight ot see if 4g comes on again, and 3g keeps turning off, and switching to 1x..like, constantly...so they MUST still be doing something down here..
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I got stuck also. Scared the hell out of me. But mine seems to have gone through the RUU perfectly and I've been getting insane battery life lately. Like at least a day every cycle on a stock 3.8v. It really could be a case of bad timing with the new firmware and Vzw updating 4g in your area that could be killing your battery. I hope you figure it out soon, though. That would be driving me insane.
you're running the RUU? i'm running joel's Bamf. works pretty well; i like ICS better, in general
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you're running the RUU? i'm running joel's Bamf. works pretty well; i like ICS better, in general
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Sorry, I meant I ran the leaked RUU and firmware and that's where I got stuck for a minute. But I'm on BAMF right now. I always run the latest BAMF.
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stock 2.1 rom 10% battery drain per hour when sleeping
sc 2.9.2 UV 50 kernel (dont remember the full name) 3-5% sleeping in my pocket, BUT 1% drain every 3minutes when the screen is on the LOWEST setting.
Just odined back to stock, and 2.2 was already available to me.....so i OTA upgraded and my battery battery is even worse than that of stock 2.1. 12% percent for sleeping AND crazy battery drain when using the screen... i cant get over 7 hours of using my phone moderately....
warranty is voided since i rooted right???
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dont u guys even dare telling me to recalibrate my battery and all that nonsense. none of this works.
No its not voided, you got the update via ota right? As long as you don't bring it in there rooted you should be fine.
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Technically yes, but if your back to 100% stock, with no root, then know one well know you rooted.
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Have you checked spare parts to see whats eating your battery?
Here are some things you could have done or do.
-Clear battery stats using terminal emulator
-Use app called juice defender
-Use UV kernel (seems like you did)
-Use Set CPU and bring down max frequency to 800MHz.
-Turn off GPS, Wifi, Bluetooth when not in use.
My suggestion is Odin to DI01 and then get the two OTA's EA28 and ED01 and then just run complete stock, and do not install ANY apps, yes I know who wants to run a phone with 0 added apps, you can update any stock apps, but if you run your phone for a day or 2 with just that setup and your having the same issue then go to verizon and get your phone replaced, also keep track of any settings you change, you want to try and keep your phone stock as much as possible, the only stock setting I personally would change is not have live wallpapers.
If your phone is over a year old, you might want to consider getting a new battery for it. No rechargable batteries stay 100% for over a year.
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If your phone is over a year old, you might want to consider getting a new battery for it. No rechargable batteries stay 100% for over a year.
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The phone has not been out a year, so its impossible for him to have it longer then a year.
Good point
Seems like this phone has been out damn near forever. Was trying to help. You have a better idea, or do you just troll these forums looking to bust peoples' balls while offering no actual help of your own?
the fear i have with taking it to Verizon is that. i didn't originally buy the phone. i got it of craigslist....so another question i have is, is there a warranty sticker to show if its ever been taken apart? maybe the previous owner replaced it with a cheap POS screen, that why it eats more battery...
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the fear i have with taking it to Verizon is that. i didn't originally buy the phone. i got it of craigslist....so another question i have is, is there a warranty sticker to show if its ever been taken apart? maybe the previous owner replaced it with a cheap POS screen, that why it eats more battery...
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Hmm ... I'm not sure about the replacement screen theory ... that seems like a lot of work for ??? benefit.
I second the advice about going stock and not installing any apps. Also, I don't see that you listed some of the things from Battery Use and Spare Parts that are listed as taking up battery life. There are apps that start things up automatically (e.g. Pandora always starts a service when I connect my bluetooth headset, even though it doesn't do audio and I've never used Pandora over bluetooth) ... sometimes you can change this in the settings, sometimes you have to decide how much you want to live with the app.
Out of curiosity, do you leave WiFi on when not connected to a network? I find that sucks battery pretty bad. I use Locale to turn that off when not at home and only turn it back on if I need it. I also used a widget called Traffic Monitor for a little while to see what was using data.
Honestly, you won't be able to return it to Verizon. My husband bought an Ally off Ebay and found out when we got the phone that something wasn't right, so he went to Verizon store and once they found out where it was bought they didn't even want to help him out.
I would suggest calling Verizon and tell them that the phone you have now doesn't work period. You'll need to emphasize that you need a phone that works. I called Verizon the same night that the store didn't help my hubby out and after an hour with the customer rep, I was able to get a new Ally ordered for him and his upgrade date wasn't until Dec of this year. He got his new phone late Feb/March I believe.
If they say they can't help you, keep telling them that you need a phone, and then ask them if they can see if a supervisor will be able to help you out. I stayed on the call with them, until they had that new phone ordered for him-I didn't give up. If the 1st day you call doesn't pan out, call them the next day as each rep is diff and some are really wanting to help, others couldn't care less.
Hope this helps you out.
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the fear i have with taking it to Verizon is that. i didn't originally buy the phone. i got it of craigslist....so another question i have is, is there a warranty sticker to show if its ever been taken apart? maybe the previous owner replaced it with a cheap POS screen, that why it eats more battery...
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Good point
Seems like this phone has been out damn near forever. Was trying to help. You have a better idea, or do you just troll these forums looking to bust peoples' balls while offering no actual help of your own?
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I did offer a suggestion, which is the same thing that Verizon would ask you to do, and its the same suggestion even most Carriers should ask you. Same with a lot of computer companies should ask you when you are having issues with your computer.
Reset your machine to standard stock, run all your updates, don't install any apps, and see if it still happens, if your battery is just as bad, then we know its either your phone or battery, either way Verizon will trade it out for you, because honestly what else can it be? The only way Verizon can really say tough luck and deal with it is if the battery life he is saying he gets, is what everyone else gets, which we all know is not true.
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stock 2.1 rom 10% battery drain per hour when sleeping
sc 2.9.2 UV 50 kernel (dont remember the full name) 3-5% sleeping in my pocket, BUT 1% drain every 3minutes when the screen is on the LOWEST setting.
Just odined back to stock, and 2.2 was already available to me.....so i OTA upgraded and my battery battery is even worse than that of stock 2.1. 12% percent for sleeping AND crazy battery drain when using the screen... i cant get over 7 hours of using my phone moderately....
warranty is voided since i rooted right???
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dont u guys even dare telling me to recalibrate my battery and all that nonsense. none of this works.
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I update OTA last week on Verizon to Froyo 2.2. My battery was overheating and draining like crazy from my CPU usage being at a constant 99%..
I found the source of the problem. An app I use for facebook called "FLOW". The CPU usage was cut to 20% when I killed it with "Advanced Task Killer".
I resolved the issue by: Opening Flow.. going to Preferences.. Notification Settings.. Refresh Type.. Checked Periodic Polling (I was using Gmail Experimental previously)
Hope this helps...
Well after the WOW effect wore off my phone, i am starting to HATE the flaws.
I bought this phone outright for a hefty $600 and hoping i did not waste my money switching over from blackberry.
MY problems
Bluetooth disconnects every 15 minutes, plus sounds like garbage, i did some reading on this and its a common problem yet appears to not be addressed yet? i am using a Jawbone Icon by the way and its dual connected to my work BB
Data(HSPDA) randomly disconnects at least once every 2 days and requires me to pull the battery to get it back going.
Battery drain is beyond crazy, i cant get 5 hours out of the phone with moderate use.
This thing heats up like crazy!!!
I know the last two things are software related, and people say upgrade to KG2, well my phone had 2.3.3 and KG2 and this is what it shipped with, so what should i go to?
Or can i just solve all of these issue by rooting the phone? if so, i will go that route.
Thanks.
Dustin
if you want to go that way(rooting,FLashing Roms)
Think twice, the SGS2 has a binary counter that counts how many times you flashed unofficial software on the phone,
if you brick it or something happens, screen breaks etc, you might ran into some problems @ samsung if they check the counter
you can reset it yourself by buying a JIG, google it!
I've had no issues with my bluetooth headset (logitech freepluse). i'd guess it doesnt like being dual connected
I've had no issues with losing my data connection (i did on galaxy s though). how strong is your signal before you lose it?
as for the battery drain, make sure you're exiting your apps + all the usual other stuff (turn off sync, wifi, bt, set to autobrightness). 2.3.3 does have the drainage issue for some people. i'm on villainrom 2.3.4 and have no drainage issues
rooting won't help you out.
HSDPA disconnects? if you have H always on that means you are either downloading or uploading something most of the time, H only turns on when there is data being pulled or sent, you should see the 3G icon MOST of the time, if you are streaming music/video then you'll see the H kicking in.
I have a Jawbone Cruiser and have no issues whatsoever I have 2 devices paired to it but only 1 at a time, A2DP works flawless and it even sounds better than the original Galaxy S.
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Well after the WOW effect wore off my phone, i am starting to HATE the flaws.
I bought this phone outright for a hefty $600 and hoping i did not waste my money switching over from blackberry.
MY problems
Bluetooth disconnects every 15 minutes, plus sounds like garbage, i did some reading on this and its a common problem yet appears to not be addressed yet? i am using a Jawbone Icon by the way and its dual connected to my work BB
I get zero disconnect .
Data(HSPDA) randomly disconnects at least once every 2 days and requires me to pull the battery to get it back going.
never happened yet on many roms .
This thing heats up like crazy!!!
Warm but not overhot .
I know the last two things are software related, and people say upgrade to KG2, well my phone had 2.3.3 and KG2 and this is what it shipped with, so what should i go to?
KH3 latest stock firmware on this forum .
Or can i just solve all of these issue by rooting the phone? if so, i will go that route.
Rooting has nothing to do with battery problems all it does if give user a lower level access to the OS .
Hundreds of battery problem posts with tips methods etc but for me the starter has to be ,
better battery stats .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Find what apps are draining the battery .
jje
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Or can i just solve all of these issue by rooting the phone? if so, i will go that route.
Thanks.
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Rooting will not solve these issues, but I can maybe enable you to start solving it.
However, before you start messing with kernels and firmwares I would really try to find out if some of the problems might be hardware related or not. If so, you could use your warranty to get a new one or get it fixed. Once you start messing with custom software you're never sure if they will grant you the warranty or not.
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not sure where you get that from? i actually hate apple and take that post as quite an insult, one and only thing i ever owned from them was a ipod way back, and it got stolen 2 mths after i bought it and i never replaced it.
that aside, i came from a Blackberry Curve 8330, although it sucked, it did have good bluetooth connectivity,decent battery life, and did not heat up, keep in mind it was a CDMA phone.
so i know i have some changes to expect with a new network, but it appears lots of these have been fixed by people and i am just trying to understand the software and device, KG2 KY this,etc is all new to me, so i have been reading lots but find it confusing since its so vast.
needless to say it will be kind of disappointing if i cant connect 2 devices to my jawbone icon at the same time and work flawless, as this is huge for me.
Also i NEVER see 3G data show up on my phone, its always the H with up and down arrows, should i see 3G? im up in Canada(Saskatchewan to be exact)
It appears i should update from KG2, yet KIES shows no update, i have not dove into Odin to try that out, maybe i should?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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Dear me another Apple fanboy on here :rolleyes
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To be scrupulously fair, the OP confesses to having come from Blackberry.
He is therefore not the spawn of Satan, merely just a second cousin of a minor demon...
Gustopher said:
To be scrupulously fair, the OP confesses to having come from Blackberry.
He is therefore not the spawn of Satan, merely just a second cousin of a minor demon...
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fair enough Blackberry not quite as bad unless your planning on rioting in your town or city
ill do my best
lool! some of these guys on here are too funny. ok how the f*** are u only getting 5 hours? i get 14-16hrs moderate use . i really would suggest rooting your phone. it really helps! i mean with the overheating problem i have under volted and under clocked my cpu and my phone doesnt heat up no more! woooop! lol. funny that my 3g and bluetooth is perfectly fine. oh and rooting is very very easy now and odin is quality and... simple . as im typing this im flashing another rom, lol. flashaholic . its a really good phone and ive had many many phones.
so now i have mixed reviews? should i root or not.
i really just want to solve my issues!
i installed Battery Stats but have no idea how to screenshot?
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so now i have mixed reviews? should i root or not.
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Rooting doesn't solve anything, just gives you access to hidden files. You need to flash a newer rom(kh3 or kh5) and hope it fixes those issues.
I agree with the above poster, I've been using android since inception and I don't believe in rooting a phone to mask the issues you are having, upgrade the software, there are many roms to choose from, get the device running well before you think about rooting.
People are giving new android users the impression that rooting is the answer for phone issues, it is not.
Rooting is for advanced users who want the extra access to explore the power of android.
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I don't understand why everyone seems to be pushing the USB JIG, it's like there are people making and selling them here or something.
@BrokenPixel, H or H+ doesn't drop to 3G as fast, if your Telco doesn't support Fast Dormancy, or you have Fast Dormancy disabled.
I like Blackberries, it is lacking as a end-user smartphone, however for companies, I still like the privacy with point to point encryption. Android does not have that unless you purchase a 3rd party application which means both parties have to have it as well. Again, it really depends on what you are using the phone for. I still recommend using the right tools for the right job.
@Gustopher, calling Blackberries a "second cousin of a minor demon..." is like calling a screwdriver the bane of our existence, or a hammer "the killer of thumbs..."
peachpuff is correct, instead of rooting your phone, perhaps you should try changing the modem to something else instead, try KH3, KG6, KF4, KE4. Perhaps in the mentioned order. It really covers most regions, since we don't know where you are at!
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I don't understand why everyone seems to be pushing the USB JIG, it's like there are people making and selling them here or something.
@BrokenPixel, H or H+ doesn't drop to 3G as fast, if your Telco doesn't support Fast Dormancy, or you have Fast Dormancy disabled.
I like Blackberries, it is lacking as a end-user smartphone, however for companies, I still like the privacy with point to point encryption. Android does not have that unless you purchase a 3rd party application which means both parties have to have it as well. Again, it really depends on what you are using the phone for. I still recommend using the right tools for the right job.
@Gustopher, calling Blackberries a "second cousin of a minor demon..." is like calling a screwdriver the bane of our existence, or a hammer "the killer of thumbs..."
peachpuff is correct, instead of rooting your phone, perhaps you should try changing the modem to something else instead, try KH3, KG6, KF4, KE4. Perhaps in the mentioned order. It really covers most regions, since we don't know where you are at!
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Thank you for actually being informative.
I am in Canada by the way(Saskatchewan) and i am running on the Sasktel network(Bell essentially)
I always thought i had to root in order to install something different then KG2?
i am not sure what my network supports, but i have NEVER seen 3g since the day i bought it.
i have turned off some of the recommended things to save battery life, it seems to be helping, we will see what i get
If your problems are related to your settings, flashing newer firmware (KG5 for example, works fine with me) will only really help if you do a complete wipe/factory reset. See the guides for that.
That would be done best by rooting with CF-root, going into CWM-recovery, doing a backup there, do all "wipes", reboot straight into download mode and flash the fresh firmware via Odin. The guides are all there.
Just make sure to play with some settings like gsm/wcdma in your network settings first.
5hrs use?
Your blackberry gave much better battery?
Sorry, but your talking absolute ****e!
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5hrs use?
Your blackberry gave much better battery?
Sorry, but your talking absolute ****e!
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Have you never heard of BB's? He came from a Curve..basically a glorified pager. He could probably go 3 days on that thing with a single charge. Kind of like going from a Commodore 64 to a high end laptop.
One thing I haven't heard mentioned about rooting is the fact with root you can install Titanium Backup..and with the Pro version..freeze apps (instead of deleting) which allows you to fiddle with perhaps some rogue apps that are draining your battery.
As usual with most Androids..make sure you don't have FB or Twitter syncing crazily (and if you're running multiple tweet or FB programs..be sure they aren't syncing as well). I'm not familiar with Touchwiz..but if they have their own "social networking" apps that you don't use (and you use the actual apps themselves instead) be sure to check those and make sure they arent sync'ing either (and better yet freeze them with TiBu).
chrisjcks said:
5hrs use?
Your blackberry gave much better battery?
Sorry, but your talking absolute ****e!
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yes i am lying to your face in order to get you to help me fix my phone.....:facepalm
A. i get FIVE HOURS with moderate use on my current I9100
B. i ad a BB curve 8330 i would get 14-16 hours moderate use.
so no, i am not talking "****e"
HI ,
I'm willing to buy S II , but i heard there are some issues regarding the battery life is that true ? and if that is true any solutions for the short battery life , what are the most useful applications i must install after buying it ?
Thanks
Sherif
Buy an iPhone.
Why iPhone ?
MistahBungle said:
Buy an iPhone.
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Lool! All smartphones have a decent battery life, nothing amazing. Not really an issue but you do have to tweak your phone a bit to get the best out of it. Like kernels and freezing and removing something useless things . Hope i helped.
looks like an iphone but powered by android baby!!!!
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Lool! All smartphones have a decent battery life, nothing amazing. Not really an issue but you do have to tweak your phone a bit to get the best out of it. Like kernels and freezing and removing something useless things . Hope i helped.
looks like an iphone but powered by android baby!!!!
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you crack me up you do...you always so jolly
anyway to OP. Like jollyman said you need to tweak about with the phone with kernels and modems and try different roms to get the best out of the phone...i was like you in the start and was questioning if i made the right choice or not. heck i even send it back and got a sensation.....but realized my mistake and got me baby back and could not be happier..so go with the s2 and read read read on how to get the best out of your phone
do you think better idea to stick to the official updates only? because i'll be new user and i dont wanna screw up my new phone..
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do you think better idea to stick to the official updates only? because i'll be new user and i dont wanna screw up my new phone..
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for the time being yes. stick with official updates. then while you stick with official updates do your reading. take your time and read through out the threads. and when you feel confident enough to root then go ahead. but for now i suggest you stay stock.
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you crack me up you do...you always so jolly
anyway to OP. Like jollyman said you need to tweak about with the phone with kernels and modems and try different roms to get the best out of the phone...i was like you in the start and was questioning if i made the right choice or not. heck i even send it back and got a sensation.....but realized my mistake and got me baby back and could not be happier..so go with the s2 and read read read on how to get the best out of your phone
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Lol. Suarez. Im just a cool guy lol. To op suarez has got u from here, he knows more than me .
looks like an iphone but powered by android baby!!!!
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Lol. Suarez. Im just a cool guy lol. To op suarez has got u from here, he knows more than me .
looks like an iphone but powered by android baby!!!!
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i am coooollllll but anywhooooo i am just a noobie buddy....just common sense really kicks in when needed
i dont quite understand the ppl who buys android phones and doesnt modify it... i mean the only TRUE difference between iphone and sgs2 is powered by iphone iOS and Android.. which is open source... the other difference doesnt really matter much.. processor ( yea its more powerful but duuh.. there isnt much things to do that really require that much power) or the screen (duuh iphone has abit better screen so what? if u dont look closely u wont even see difference(atleast not me)) so yea if you gona buy sgs2 i RECOMMEND you to do alot of flashing and rooting and play with it around
WITH BACKUP of course... especially the EFS backup
It all depend how you use your phone. Sometimes I it for hours on end and go through 2-3 batteries a day (I have 3 spares).
Today I used it very little. About 7 phone calls, 2 messages and only about half an hour browsing / xda etc. Currently on 85% after 18 hours.
So usage makes a massive difference.
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sxi200 said:
It all depend how you use your phone. Sometimes I it for hours on end and go through 2-3 batteries a day (I have 3 spares).
Today I used it very little. About 7 phone calls, 2 messages and only about half an hour browsing / xda etc. Currently on 85% after 18 hours.
So usage makes a massive difference.
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Actually , few phone calls may be total 15 min per day , but i will there will be a fair using for the WIFI may be 4-6 hrs per day , do you think this will effect much the battery performance?
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Actually , few phone calls may be total 15 min per day , but i will there will be a fair using for the WIFI may be 4-6 hrs per day , do you think this will effect much the battery performance?
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With that usage aslong as you charge each night you should be fine, my usage is similar and i go to bed with 20%
Ricey
do you think is there a need to change the Kernel version ? or just do the official update and it will be fine ?
Definitely stick to official updates. Regardless of what anyone might tell you, it's a fantastic phone running stock firmware. And if you're not confident about flashing custom roms/kernels (there's a small risk everytime you do it that things might go wrong/you might brick your phone), definitely stick to official firmware.
At the very least until you've done a lot of reading on here and are confident to try different roms/kernels. If things do go wrong, it might take you a few days of research on here to work out how to fix your phone (which means you won't have your phone working for that time), and at worst you'll have to return it to Samsung for repair. Which you'll probably end up paying for as running custom roms/kernels voids your warranty.
So slow and steady, stick with stock for a while and read. Then read some more. And when you're done doing that, read for another couple of months.
MistahBungle said:
Definitely stick to official updates. Regardless of what anyone might tell you, it's a fantastic phone running stock firmware. And if you're not confident about flashing custom roms/kernels (there's a small risk everytime you do it that things might go wrong/you might brick your phone), definitely stick to official firmware.
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Sorry but got to disagree, yes its a great phone as stock but with custom ROM and kernels its an amazing phone. The devs here have done some amazing work. BUT (and its a big one) dont do a thing till you've researched your arse off, and you understand all the risks of what your doing.
Ricey
(woohoo 400th post)
Latest stocks have been fine, even stock kernels have shown improved battery life. But with a custom rom/kernel combination your setting up a phone the way you like it with many ways of tweaking it.
If you do buy one, update to latest stock, try it out, if your not happy then root and enjoy.
My post was an attempt to persuade the OP to stick to stock should he purchase an SGS2. The last thing we need on here is yet another " Hlap mai fone broked !" post :-/ (and everything that goes with it).
ricey1986 said:
Sorry but got to disagree, yes its a great phone as stock but with custom ROM and kernels its an amazing phone. The devs here have done some amazing work. BUT (and its a big one) dont do a thing till you've researched your arse off, and you understand all the risks of what your doing.
Ricey
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Actually , few phone calls may be total 15 min per day , but i will there will be a fair using for the WIFI may be 4-6 hrs per day , do you think this will effect much the battery performance?
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My wifi and GPS are on 100% of the time. I never turn them off. Today, 23 hours since charge and about 2 hours screen time and battery on 69%. But 3g is off (2g only) and no email sync.
Yesterday, heavy usage and went through at least 2 batteries.
BTW, since I got the s2 I've only ever used cf root kernals. Nice and stable for me and the closest thing to stock. Others claim increased performance or have over clocking etc don't interest me. I believe the phone doesn't need them. Also using Checkrom. On the S1, well that was different.
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Somehow, it seems over time battery life on ICS has consistently diminished. May try some things but this is stock rom, and really not a lot of apps widgets. Is everyone having this?
Example, Sunday I unplug it at noon, and by 7 its at 4%, made a few calls, say 3 under 5 min. Used navigation some, texted some, and a bit of fantasy football app. But that seems below reasonable expectations.
Widgets: 1 weather, Tim Hutt ICS calendar, SiMi Clock, battery & Weather(lockscreen), Widget Locker, Google Music. Launcher: Apex pro.
Did a bit of surfing and didn't see much around stock ICS (could have missed it)
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Somehow, it seems over time battery life on ICS has consistently diminished. May try some things but this is stock rom, and really not a lot of apps widgets. Is everyone having this?
Example, Sunday I unplug it at noon, and by 7 its at 4%, made a few calls, say 3 under 5 min. Used navigation some, texted some, and a bit of fantasy football app. But that seems below reasonable expectations.
Widgets: 1 weather, Tim Hutt ICS calendar, SiMi Clock, battery & Weather(lockscreen), Widget Locker, Google Music. Launcher: Apex pro.
Did a bit of surfing and didn't see much around stock ICS (could have missed it)
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I have the same problem too. The battery life is so horrible :crying:
I need to charge 2 - 3 times per day. I am thinking of downgrading to ginger bread if this continues.
did you tried the Canadian base?
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did you tried the Canadian base?
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I'm on the US AT&T stock ICS. Have not tried any roms.
If you upgraded via kies or OTA...the chance of a corrupted flash is high.
I'm not saying that it is, but we have had several reports of failed OTA or kies upgrades to ICS...
The only good fix is a re-install of the build...
I would go to samfirmware.com, and push the rom to the device again, and then test the battery life.
this would not be the first bad rom image we have seen from the upgrade.....g
And remember, it takes 3-5 days of normal usage after a fresh install, for the dalvik cache to build, and for the device to "settle" before any accuracy can be measured...g
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If you upgraded via kies or OTA...the chance of a corrupted flash is high.
I'm not saying that it is, but we have had several reports of failed OTA or kies upgrades to ICS...
The only good fix is a re-install of the build...
I would go to samfirmware.com, and push the rom to the device again, and then test the battery life.
this would not be the first bad rom image we have seen from the upgrade.....g
And remember, it takes 3-5 days of normal usage after a fresh install, for the dalvik cache to build, and for the device to "settle" before any accuracy can be measured...g
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If this is the case, should I try something like a factory reset then reinstall? I initially updated via Keis.
What is typical battery life on ICS? I recall I got the note right before going to SXSW and it would run from 8am to 11pm with solid use and maybe a 10-20% top off somewhere in the day. This has given me serious cell phone "range anxiety", even bought a external battery to address it.
Mez-Jr said:
If this is the case, should I try something like a factory reset then reinstall? I initially updated via Keis.
What is typical battery life on ICS? I recall I got the note right before going to SXSW and it would run from 8am to 11pm with solid use and maybe a 10-20% top off somewhere in the day. This has given me serious cell phone "range anxiety", even bought a external battery to address it.
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Best screen on times I've seen are ranging from 3-4 hours, and overall battery times are going 18-24 hours...
Now mileage varies greatly between users, and i'm running ICS as well, and since 6 a.m. today, I've used 14% battery in 7 hours...
I've made 2 phone calls, sent 3 texts, and messed around with settings for about 30 minutes...
It does sound like you may have gotten a dirty flash image...but it's so hard to tell, unless you get random freezes, boot loops etc.
But the stock ICS battery life was horrible for me........g
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Best screen on times I've seen are ranging from 3-4 hours, and overall battery times are going 18-24 hours...
Now mileage varies greatly between users, and i'm running ICS as well, and since 6 a.m. today, I've used 14% battery in 7 hours...
I've made 2 phone calls, sent 3 texts, and messed around with settings for about 30 minutes...
It does sound like you may have gotten a dirty flash image...but it's so hard to tell, unless you get random freezes, boot loops etc.
But the stock ICS battery life was horrible for me........g
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It boots and actually runs fine. Occasionally cell standby chews the battery out of nowhere, andriod os and phone idle too.
I pulled it off the charger today at 9am and as of 2:00 I was at 68%. Checked email, messed on flipboard while making coffee, updated a few apps. Checked traffic. Mostly just sat on my desk.
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It boots and actually runs fine. Occasionally cell standby chews the battery out of nowhere, andriod os and phone idle too.
I pulled it off the charger today at 9am and as of 2:00 I was at 68%. Checked email, messed on flipboard while making coffee, updated a few apps. Checked traffic. Mostly just sat on my desk.
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Yeh...thats nearly double the battery drain i'm seeing.....
I really think you should either re-flash the stock build using samfirmware.com, or flash up a custom rom you can adjust to get this battery issue under control...g
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Yeh...thats nearly double the battery drain i'm seeing.....
I really think you should either re-flash the stock build using samfirmware.com, or flash up a custom rom you can adjust to get this battery issue under control...g
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Agh, yeah I'll have to give that a shot... Been looking at CM10 or something, I had a jailbroken iPhone4 previously so I'm not ADVERSE to doing this... was hoping to stay stock a little bit longer... I know the samfirmware thing is the stock firmware but still, playing with the OS DOES cause a bit of anxiety...
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Agh, yeah I'll have to give that a shot... Been looking at CM10 or something, I had a jailbroken iPhone4 previously so I'm not ADVERSE to doing this... was hoping to stay stock a little bit longer... I know the samfirmware thing is the stock firmware but still, playing with the OS DOES cause a bit of anxiety...
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Though, would a factory reset take it back to GB and allow me to do the upgrade again?
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Though, would a factory reset take it back to GB and allow me to do the upgrade again?
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Possibly .....
But you can push the factory roms to the device any time you wish ....it's endless really ....g
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Agh, yeah I'll have to give that a shot... Been looking at CM10 or something, I had a jailbroken iPhone4 previously so I'm not ADVERSE to doing this... was hoping to stay stock a little bit longer... I know the samfirmware thing is the stock firmware but still, playing with the OS DOES cause a bit of anxiety...
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Understood ...
Fortunately, the note is painless to use on custom roms ...
With the ATT version, you simply push a custom recovery to the device via Odin, then download and flash the rom.
No root needed. And if you don't like it, you restore the stock nandroid backup and presto...no more rom.
Root is very nice though, as it allows sooo much more control ....g
Extra Batteries, their cheap and totally worth it just make sure you get a wall charger too
I've pretty much given up on eking out more battery life since it seems universally bad.
A bit more than 4 hours screen-on time seems to be the limit without setting the screen to ultra dim.
Standby seems entire dependent on my signal strength and whether I have LTE enabled or not. If it's strong, 24+ hours isn't unreasonable.
ChronoReverse said:
I've pretty much given up on eking out more battery life since it seems universally bad.
A bit more than 4 hours screen-on time seems to be the limit without setting the screen to ultra dim.
Standby seems entire dependent on my signal strength and whether I have LTE enabled or not. If it's strong, 24+ hours isn't unreasonable.
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Well, yeah screen destroys the battery. After ICS it seems as though they cranked up the brightness and contrast. Or is that just me?
So here I am, upgraded from the GS3. I understand that the ME7 radio is locked and that safestrap is the only option. But here's my dilemma. I used to get 14+ hours of battery life on my GS3. Now I'm lucky to get 8 hours, if I'm not touching the phone whatsoever. I've tried stock, Jellybeans, and Darkslide (seems to be my only options but feel free to prove me wrong.) Is this normal? Do I have a defunct device? This just seems extremely poor to me... They can't advertise that this phone is so much better if it's getting less battery life than the fricken S3...
Side note: I've tried running w/o my apps, and by turning all of the motion sensor stuff off, but I do not see a difference.
I also am pasting a picture of my battery in stock. You can see that in one day, I have to put it on the charger. Yes, I use wifi, but I honestly wasn't using the phone (and I do not have my apps installed.) The first fall on the graph is me using netflix for an hour (battery decline here is understandable). The second fall is my phone sitting on my desk while I'm at work. I'm on my computer, not my phone... and it's almost declining as much as if I was watching netflix. I've restarted it.... used the android task manager to kill the ram... you name it... Every rom I flash I've flashed is like this. It's astronomically frustrating...
I get awesome battery life with Hyperdrive have you tried that at all?
Verizon Galaxy S4
SafeStrapped & Hyperdrived
Mistertac said:
I get awesome battery life with Hyperdrive have you tried that at all?
Verizon Galaxy S4
SafeStrapped & Hyperdrived
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I have not, but I'm downloading it now. We'll see how it works!
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I get awesome battery life with Hyperdrive have you tried that at all?
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+1 Hyperdrive. 9.1 rocks my battery.
kyls2010 said:
So here I am, upgraded from the GS3. I understand that the ME7 radio is locked and that safestrap is the only option. But here's my dilemma. I used to get 14+ hours of battery life on my GS3. Now I'm lucky to get 8 hours, if I'm not touching the phone whatsoever. I've tried stock, Jellybeans, and Darkslide (seems to be my only options but feel free to prove me wrong.) Is this normal? Do I have a defunct device? This just seems extremely poor to me... They can't advertise that this phone is so much better if it's getting less battery life than the fricken S3...
Side note: I've tried running w/o my apps, and by turning all of the motion sensor stuff off, but I do not see a difference.
I also am pasting a picture of my battery in stock. You can see that in one day, I have to put it on the charger. Yes, I use wifi, but I honestly wasn't using the phone (and I do not have my apps installed.) The first fall on the graph is me using netflix for an hour (battery decline here is understandable). The second fall is my phone sitting on my desk while I'm at work. I'm on my computer, not my phone... and it's almost declining as much as if I was watching netflix. I've restarted it.... used the android task manager to kill the ram... you name it... Every rom I flash I've flashed is like this. It's astronomically frustrating...
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It's obvious that some apps you have installed are causing this, I can get 14+ easy on mine. I highly suggest using Greenify to hibernate misbehaving apps and try to use auto-brightness if you can stand it.
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The first time I read that I laughed out loud. The second time I read it - I thought yeah he would actually..or he'd write his own from scratch!
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A different rom wont make much difference if its something with the settings or a specific app you have running constantly. Do you have location services enabled. Thats a big one that causes alot of drain.
Hit thanks if I helped you out. Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way. Sent via tapatalk.
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It's obvious that some apps you have installed are causing this, I can get 14+ easy on mine. I highly suggest using Greenify to hibernate misbehaving apps and try to use auto-brightness if you can stand it.
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I had put in a side note above stating that I have been running without my apps installed, so it really can't/shouldn't be a case of misbehaving apps. "Side note: I've tried running w/o my apps, and by turning all of the motion sensor stuff off, but I do not see a difference."
I will definitely take a look at Greenify, and see if it helps me. Thank you for that suggestion.
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A different rom wont make much difference if its something with the settings or a specific app you have running constantly. Do you have location services enabled. Thats a big one that causes alot of drain.
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I had put in a side note above stating that I have been running without my apps. "Side note: I've tried running w/o my apps, and by turning all of the motion sensor stuff off, but I do not see a difference. " I did a ton of reading on this prior to flashing, but from what I see people are only reading my first sentence and trying to answer (which is why the, "Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way," comment irked me.) I have been a rooted android user since Droid X, so I know how to read/research/troubleshoot phone issues. Believe me, I've had to SBF that phone a million times because each flash was like a crapp shoot. This issue however is a commonality between multiple SGS4 roms (Stock, Jellybeans, and Darkslide).
I always shut my location services off the second I flash a rom (unless I need to use my navigator, which as mentioned, I don't have installed at the moment.) But this is definitely a valid troubleshooting question to ask.
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So here I am, upgraded from the GS3. I understand that the ME7 radio is locked and that safestrap is the only option. But here's my dilemma. I used to get 14+ hours of battery life on my GS3. Now I'm lucky to get 8 hours, if I'm not touching the phone whatsoever. I've tried stock, Jellybeans, and Darkslide (seems to be my only options but feel free to prove me wrong.) Is this normal? Do I have a defunct device? This just seems extremely poor to me... They can't advertise that this phone is so much better if it's getting less battery life than the fricken S3...
Side note: I've tried running w/o my apps, and by turning all of the motion sensor stuff off, but I do not see a difference.
I also am pasting a picture of my battery in stock. You can see that in one day, I have to put it on the charger. Yes, I use wifi, but I honestly wasn't using the phone (and I do not have my apps installed.) The first fall on the graph is me using netflix for an hour (battery decline here is understandable). The second fall is my phone sitting on my desk while I'm at work. I'm on my computer, not my phone... and it's almost declining as much as if I was watching netflix. I've restarted it.... used the android task manager to kill the ram... you name it... Every rom I flash I've flashed is like this. It's astronomically frustrating...
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Turn off Google location services, see if that helps. That was killing my battery on ME7, same as yours. If your not into rooting, the 4.3 update has fixed that bug, I'm back to 3.5ish hours of screen on time. I did give up root though, so pick your battle i guess.
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Turn off Google location services, see if that helps. That was killing my battery on ME7, same as yours. If your not into rooting, the 4.3 update has fixed that bug, I'm back to 3.5ish hours of screen on time. I did give up root though, so pick your battle i guess.
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FYI it is possible to retain root and take the update as explained here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504408 If you've already updated though you'll just have to wait for an exploit.
To the OP: It's also possible you just have a bad battery... there have been cases of faulty batteries and some were even swelling up so perhaps you could try to get a replacement to see if it fixes it.
Here is a post I made a few months back..I was battling Horrible Battery life (approx 5-10% per hour). Since i caught the culprit in my home netork I get less than 1% drain idle per hour:
"I had bad battery life on my S4 right after release. I tracked it down to Multicast being ENABLED on one of my Access Points. I would recommend logging into your routers and/or) access points and look for anything related to Multicast and Disable it (or uncheck it).
Granted this was for a totally different device (note that my Nexus 7 was NOT affected by multicast) but it certainly cant hurt anything by disabling multicast..If it does, just enable it again.
My S4 was using approx 5%-8% of battery per hour with multicast enabled...once I disabled it, I now drain about 1% per hour.
This took me almost 2 weeks to discover...keeping in mind that my S4 never connected to the affected AP. I use that AP for older legacy devices.....just having it on the network affected my S4.
Give it a try..if it does not work..enable it again."
PS..disabling Google location services also helped me slightly with a runaway battery drain.
Crawshayi said:
FYI it is possible to retain root and take the update as explained here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504408 If you've already updated though you'll just have to wait for an exploit.
To the OP: It's also possible you just have a bad battery... there have been cases of faulty batteries and some were even swelling up so perhaps you could try to get a replacement to see if it fixes it.
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Ya, I saw, but not having root is kind of a penance, makes me appreciate having it more when I do get it. I've also decided flashing roms gets old, but for sure I'm missing Xposed framework.
metalunna said:
Here is a post I made a few months back..I was battling Horrible Battery life (approx 5-10% per hour). Since i caught the culprit in my home netork I get less than 1% drain idle per hour:
"I had bad battery life on my S4 right after release. I tracked it down to Multicast being ENABLED on one of my Access Points. I would recommend logging into your routers and/or) access points and look for anything related to Multicast and Disable it (or uncheck it).
Granted this was for a totally different device (note that my Nexus 7 was NOT affected by multicast) but it certainly cant hurt anything by disabling multicast..If it does, just enable it again.
My S4 was using approx 5%-8% of battery per hour with multicast enabled...once I disabled it, I now drain about 1% per hour.
This took me almost 2 weeks to discover...keeping in mind that my S4 never connected to the affected AP. I use that AP for older legacy devices.....just having it on the network affected my S4.
Give it a try..if it does not work..enable it again."
PS..disabling Google location services also helped me slightly with a runaway battery drain.
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Amazing suggestion! I will definitely check that!
Crawshayi said:
FYI it is possible to retain root and take the update as explained here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504408 If you've already updated though you'll just have to wait for an exploit.
I have been hawkeyeing that thread all day lol...
To the OP: It's also possible you just have a bad battery... there have been cases of faulty batteries and some were even swelling up so perhaps you could try to get a replacement to see if it fixes it.
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I'm seriously starting to consider that as well... I'm on hyperdrive now but it really hasn't improved that much. I'm currently sitting at 19% since 8:45 am this morning (currently 4:01 PM here). So I'm going to just dip over 8 hours today, sitting at work while on my computer mind you, which is still sad in my eyes...
twolasrnames said:
Turn off Google location services, see if that helps. That was killing my battery on ME7, same as yours. If your not into rooting, the 4.3 update has fixed that bug, I'm back to 3.5ish hours of screen on time. I did give up root though, so pick your battle i guess.
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I'm definitely considering that OTA w/survival mode... no doubt about it.
Today I was using Navigation for about 4 hours straight, GPS and location services on, with LTE, also using Bluetooth the whole time for music and Poweramp with some texting in between. I only dropped 35%. It definitely sounds like you got a lemon (either the battery or phone).
Wow, I am jealous... Yeah, I think you're right.