Hi!
I just wanna check with some other ppl that are using SNESDroid with their Primes and are running ICS. No matter what game I play, I get stutters now and then. The emulator halts for a sec and then just continues like nothing happened. I'm using a PS3 controller when playing. Tried with and without the cable, doesn't make a difference. And I've checked the keybindings. There are no duplicates there either.
But here's the interesting part. It happens alot more when hooked to a TV via HDMI! Starting to think it's either a problem with ICS or the Prime having a hard time deciding how many CPUs to use for the app. I happen to know that these sorts of lags/stutters can occur because of it. Very annoying because the gameplay is otherwise sooo smooth >.<. I've tried changing the powerprofile but no difference.
The emulator does occasionally kick you to the mainmenu for some reason. Might be related to that too? Only seems to happen when not connected to a TV :S. The Youtube videos I've seen only mention this problem, not the one I've been having. Reinforcing that this might be a problem only I'm having...
Hope that you ppl can confirm and/or help me fix it . Thanks!
I don't have stuttering issue with snesdroid. for most part it plays pretty well. I have noticed a few times it kicking back to the load rom screen. its the app itself. it needs to be updated again and more optimized. majority of time it works great.
do your save states work on it? I never can seem to get it to work.
I have SnesDroid, Genedroid, FPse, N64oid, Neodroid(my favorite. plays and looks really good), & DoomGLES(best doom emulator out there. has updated 3d graphics, lighting effects, and more)
demandarin said:
I don't have stuttering issue with snesdroid. for most part it plays pretty well. I have noticed a few times it kicking back to the load rom screen. its the app itself. it needs to be updated again and more optimized. majority of time it works great.
do your save states work on it? I never can seem to get it to work.
I have SnesDroid, Genedroid, FPse, N64oid, Neodroid(my favorite. plays and looks really good), & DoomGLES(best doom emulator out there. has updated 3d graphics, lighting effects, and more)
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Interesting hmm... Ok what firmware are you running? Are you stock? Where do you store the games? If on a SD card, what brand and speed? "Oddly" enough my save/loadstates work perfectly. Really starting to think that it's the app... Probably not so good with ICS and/or multicore CPUs :S. I don't seem to have any problems with Fpse etc.
I'm on the latest firmware .15 on the prime. I'm still on stock rom but rooted and overclocked to 1.6Ghz. I store all my games on the device itself. haven't went out and bought a nice size memory card yet. all rom files except FPse ones are small. PlayStation roms are the big ones. maybe that's why I don't experience any stutter. prime will read rom data faster off the device itself. maybe you need a faster/higher class memory card. so prime can read it faster.
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I'm on the latest firmware .15 on the prime. I'm still on stock rom but rooted and overclocked to 1.6Ghz. I store all my games on the device itself. haven't went out and bought a nice size memory card yet. all rom files except FPse ones are small. PlayStation roms are the big ones. maybe that's why I don't experience any stutter. prime will read rom data faster off the device itself. maybe you need a faster/higher class memory card. so prime can read it faster.
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I'm on the same firmware. But not rooted (shouldn't make a difference) or overclocked. I tried running games off of the internal memory, no difference. But I kinda knew that since I'm using a Samsung 32Gb Class 10 MicroSD card >.<. Could you try playing some games on stock speed? Preferably via HDMI since that makes it more obvious. And last but not least. What setting you using in the app? Frameskip? Stretch Sounds?
Thanks!
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I'm on the same firmware. But not rooted (shouldn't make a difference) or overclocked. I tried running games off of the internal memory, no difference. But I kinda knew that since I'm using a Samsung 32Gb Class 10 MicroSD card >.<. Could you try playing some games on stock speed? Preferably via HDMI since that makes it more obvious. And last but not least. What setting you using in the app? Frameskip? Stretch Sounds?
Thanks!
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rooting and overclock doesn't make a difference. I play most of the time on stock speeds and use the default set up in snesdroid. I don't change anything as it works good as is. its only FPse and neodroid that I may change some settings. have you tried uninstalling then installing again? maybe even a soft reset, which won't delete any data but will clear any faulty coding and files.
I wish I could find a dreamcast emulator or a 3DO one. I just got the TurboGraphix16 one and works great.
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rooting and overclock doesn't make a difference. I play most of the time on stock speeds and use the default set up in snesdroid. I don't change anything as it works good as is. its only FPse and neodroid that I may change some settings. have you tried uninstalling then installing again? maybe even a soft reset, which won't delete any data but will clear any faulty coding and files.
I wish I could find a dreamcast emulator or a 3DO one. I just got the TurboGraphix16 one and works great.
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Thanks! That narrows it down to app settings. I know I've changed them so gonna restore the default settings and try again . I heard about a Dreamcast emulator online. But apparently the guy working on it has kept it for himself so far =/. Maybe in the future...
Sorry to bump old post. I had another user experience this same issue. I'm trying to track down possible causes.
One setting to adjust for sure is the audio stretch. Reduce it to 0, if you hear no crackles then great.
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Sorry to bump old post. I had another user experience this same issue. I'm trying to track down possible causes.
One setting to adjust for sure is the audio stretch. Reduce it to 0, if you hear no crackles then great.
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I'm pretty sure I've never noticed stutters from SNESoid. From PSX4Droid and N64oid sure, but not SNESoid.
I disable audio though because I'm always listening to music, maybe that helps?
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Hi guys, the game works fine for a couple of mins, until the phone starts heating and well , it starts lagginggggg. Multiplayer works fine, but single player is just killing me. Problems only occur when phone starts to warm up. Anyone facing this issue?
More info : Strafing and scrolling "view" seems to be lagging, as though frame-rate just dropped or something. I've reinstalled and uninstalled, downloaded data and still, the same outcome. Multiplayer is as smooth as
Please tell me this isnt just meeee
im alone?????
Ive only played the first mission. it does not lag or overheat like you mention,although i do notice the frames drop in some areas becoming slightly laggy.online gaming is great.i hate that the game crashes and restarts sometimes in online play
Have some apps running in the background?
I also experience UHT moment when i play gameloft games.. but theres no continuous lag, only stutters on some area..
You may also need to check that your governor wasn't on conservative..
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Got no framerate issue here. Try looking for a newer version.
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Got no framerate issue here. Try looking for a newer version.
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Gorjess said:
Have some apps running in the background?
I also experience UHT moment when i play gameloft games.. but theres no continuous lag, only stutters on some area..
You may also need to check that your governor wasn't on conservative..
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Ive only played the first mission. it does not lag or overheat like you mention,although i do notice the frames drop in some areas becoming slightly laggy.online gaming is great.i hate that the game crashes and restarts sometimes in online play
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Hmm, im on the latest version. 1.0.1. What im getting is the BLURISH effect when scrolling views. Im pretty sure its a framerate drop. Ive got MC3 running alone, no background apps. Its literally killing me. Ive tried 5 different kernels, and Im sure im not overclocking or underclocking the cpu. Im using stock rom though. Would cyanogenmod help improve the gameplay? Any good roms that still preserve the samsung qwerty keyboard?
I have this issue too. I have a Samsung Galaxy SII GT-I9100, Noble Black, 2.3.5, stock ROM, kernel XWKJ1 (also stock), NO ROOT
At some point (fire or many trees or something) the game is lowering the FPS. I didn't noticed that for example on Sensation XL (which has 1.5 singlecore and even higher screen resolution than my phone has) and i didn't saw a single lag.
I made a video about this problem and posted it on youtube here it is:
I suppose this problem is related to my stock ROM or even my stock kernel... something similar is happening with backstab but there it's not that annoying since it's not a FPS game
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I have this issue too. I have a Samsung Galaxy SII GT-I9100, Noble Black, 2.3.5, stock ROM, kernel XWKJ1 (also stock), NO ROOT
At some point (fire or many trees or something) the game is lowering the FPS. I didn't noticed that for example on Sensation XL (which has 1.5 singlecore and even higher screen resolution than my phone has) and i didn't saw a single lag.
I made a video about this problem and posted it on youtube here it is:
I suppose this problem is related to my stock ROM or even my stock kernel... something similar is happening with backstab but there it's not that annoying since it's not a FPS game
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YES YES Im not alone. Thats the problem. I wonder if its due to the stock rom...
Got the game no issue here. im rooted on slimrom with siyah kernel, not overclocked but undervolted so it doesnt heat up so much. Fyi shadow gun is a really good game as well
looks like an iphone but powered by android baby!!!!
No issues here.
Well,it even happens on my device,which is overclocked,both the CPU(1600MHz) and the GPU(400MHz).It seems to only happen when there is smoke on the screen.Doesn't happen in any other case.
Feel like flashing a new rom. Gonna get a usb jig first...
Btw, any roms to recommend?
@androidkid:slimrom running touchwiz?
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I have this issue too. I have a Samsung Galaxy SII GT-I9100, Noble Black, 2.3.5, stock ROM, kernel XWKJ1 (also stock), NO ROOT
At some point (fire or many trees or something) the game is lowering the FPS. I didn't noticed that for example on Sensation XL (which has 1.5 singlecore and even higher screen resolution than my phone has) and i didn't saw a single lag.
I made a video about this problem and posted it on youtube here it is:
I suppose this problem is related to my stock ROM or even my stock kernel... something similar is happening with backstab but there it's not that annoying since it's not a FPS game
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Because it has another much weaker GPU, therefore it has much lower graphical quality settings. It's like playing on Low and the GSII on very high.
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Because it has another much weaker GPU, therefore it has much lower graphical quality settings. It's like playing on Low and the GSII on very high.
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Well,even if it is so,it's unacceptable,as it's definitely a fault on Gameloft's part.The game is,once again like other Gameloft titles,more or less badly coded.It uses too much GPU.I can play ShadowGun with 16x MSAA(Using CF3D) for hours and the phone just gets warm,while I can't play MC3 for nearly as long and the device burns.Before anyone tries to say that it's because MC3 has so super awesome graphics,it's not the cause.Our GPU doesn't overheat,even when overclocked.Excessive heat is only generated by the CPU.So,try playing ShadowGun and MC3 with 500MHz or 800MHz CPU.ShadowGun still plays as awesome as before,while MC3 lags.
We should contact Gameloft me thinks...
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Well,it even happens on my device,which is overclocked,both the CPU(1600MHz) and the GPU(400MHz).It seems to only happen when there is smoke on the screen.Doesn't happen in any other case.
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Well,even if it is so,it's unacceptable,as it's definitely a fault on Gameloft's part.The game is,once again like other Gameloft titles,more or less badly coded.It uses too much GPU.I can play ShadowGun with 16x MSAA(Using CF3D) for hours and the phone just gets warm,while I can't play MC3 for nearly as long and the device burns.Before anyone tries to say that it's because MC3 has so super awesome graphics,it's not the cause.Our GPU doesn't overheat,even when overclocked.Excessive heat is only generated by the CPU.So,try playing ShadowGun and MC3 with 500MHz or 800MHz CPU.ShadowGun still plays as awesome as before,while MC3 lags.
We should contact Gameloft me thinks...
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Contacted gameloft 3 weeks ago. Said they would look into the problem. Lets just wait for the net update to roll out
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Contacted gameloft 3 weeks ago. Said they would look into the problem. Lets just wait for the net update to roll out
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Yeah...Ok,so what's the next best game you said?
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Car drive
Try the map where your using a minigun and escaping with a truck/car (dont remember the map name)
the fps drops from stable 60 to under 20 impossible to, win the level through with hard
Hmm which governor are you using? i just know that lulzactive is kinda bad if it comes to gaming. try out some stock governors like ondemand, conservative or performance.
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Hmm which governor are you using? i just know that lulzactive is kinda bad if it comes to gaming. try out some stock governors like ondemand, conservative or performance.
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Tried all, only choice is to run stock rom, like cm7... Btw guys, if I use chainfire and download the game under "Adreno", would it work
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Yeah...Ok,so what's the next best game you said?
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Now play GTA3.
Hey All
I recently downloaded Gta III From the market But there is significant Lag
(I am using Cm7 With Full Oc)
But I have seen videos on youtube Of people playing Gta III on their Optimus one.
I Have heard Of a Gta version where it doesn't lag But the graphics are bad
Could i PLEASE have a download link for Gta III one that dosnt Lag (i dont care if the graphics are Bad)
GTAIII Optimization
There's two ways I can think of making it run smoother.
1. Chainfire3D. It's a root app, found in the market, whose sole purpose is to enable games on devices that wouldn't normally be able to play them. You have to buy it to unlock everything, but I've been able to use the free version on my Moto Droid to play GTAIII better.
2. Delete the audio folder. Once you have everything downloaded, manually delete the audio folder. If the phone isn't constantly trying to play music or SFX, it will run a bit quicker.
The specific apk isn't going to matter, unless rockstar made huge optimizations to code in recent versions, but as you've DLed from the market, that shouldn't matter, no? Overall, I'd recommend against trying to run it. The optimus isn't really made to handle 3D games in general, much less GTAIII. Good luck, though.
the processor
your rom have overclock? that could help. try to put over 700 mhz in perfomance governor
with OC the p500 will not warm up ?
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with OC the p500 will not warm up ?
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No.
Maybe a little bit. But nothing will be damaged. Don`t worry, the only thing you can have, is reboot.
Here ya go buddy:
http://andropediaapps.blogspot.com/2011/12/grand-theft-auto-gta-iii-v10-apk-full.html
Find on this post: New Version for Low/Middle End Devices is released by Andropedia. Click Here
or here direct link: http://andropediaapps.blogspot.com/2012/01/gta-iii-gta3-apk-full-sd-data-finally.html
Go there, download game that is around 70-90MB, and apk, and do the same what you did with original!
Graphics are pretty bad in this one, and there is often a bug where you will after 20m in front of yourself see only some pink wall, and ofc no sound...
But runs better, still lagged pretty much on mik_os 6.5.7 but now will test it in PerfectPeso2.2 and see how it is. With full game, on PerfectPeso, it didn't lagged so much like on the rest of the ROMs so I expect this one to run smootly now...
And yeah, just overclock it until kernel starts to reboot, i got mine stable on 825Mhz, on 844 it runs about 1 hour, and on 864 it got nearly 10min in mik_os 6.5.7, but now on PerfectPeso there is no option to go beyond 806mhz...:/ But still frikin fast!
UPDATE: yeah on PerfectPeso2.2 fresh installed no tweaks ripped version will run almost lagless, 15-25fps, but totaly playable! And no pink wall bug anymore!!!
Tried this game a while back and the result was the same... The lag made the game unplayable..
Tested it on CM7. PerfectPeso2.2 sound's good from what you say, but will not change the rom just for a game .
Hey guys I just got NFS: Most Wanted on the ATT Note. The gameplay and the controls are great but the game sort runs in slowmo. Anybody else getting different performance in other ROMS?
I'm running flapjaxx's AOSP ICS rom W/ GPU OC and CPU OC. I assume the slowness is due to the Note's large resolution and it's not quite as optimized as it could be for our phones. It is smooth but just terribly slow.
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OOOOKAY guys I am back with some interesting results!
I continued to try more roms and see the performance with Need for Speed Most Wanted. I first tried Flapjaxx's stock ICS rom with touchwiz with an overclock kernel and gpu OC. That ran better than any of the AOSP but still had some slowness to it.
Seeing as the stock roms tended to give more performance, I tried another stock rom. This one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766933. No OC kernel, everything stock pretty much. Here is what happened:
1. I restored NFS from titanium
2. NFS says this android is not compatible
3. I uninstall NFS and install it from the Playstore and redownload the SD data
4. Ran the game and observed that there was little to no lag! Well I'm sure it could be a bit better, the frame rate was totally playable and it actually felt speedy!
Now i'm not sure what is happening here. Either 1. the game downloaded a new SD data with lower graphics requirements, 2. the game recognized the device as a different device and choose the graphics setting accordingly, OR 3. the device just performs better @ mostly stock. Now can anybody inform me on how the SD Data actually works that would be great so I can pinpoint what it is.
My next test will be using the above rom that yielded good performance with flapjaxx's OC/GPU kernel to see if it speeds up the frames anymore.
UPDATE 2
After a bit more testing I see that without the OC kernel and using the kernel from 'better stock' ROM above, the road actually is missing some water and effects which is probably leading to the smoother gameplay! If anybody else is testing this let me know what your results are!
UPDATE 3
Trying out flappjaxx's Jelly Bean rom with his GPUOC and CPUOC. No surprise there, graphics got bumped up.
What I did notice is that there is almost NO DIFFERENCE in frames (from what I could see) from Stock rom + AOSP/JB roms with OC kernel in BUMPER CAMERA MODE despite the higher graphics. To be clear, those of you on AOSP that are already using bumper mode will not get higher frames in bumper mode on something like a stock rom. There is little to no difference in bumper modes. Should be all that I can test now. I will be sticking with this Jellybeanie and playing NFS in bumper camera mode myself (in car view).
EA, give us graphic options. That is all.
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In conclusion:
Game is somehow determining the graphics through the kernel
SD Data downloaded is the same on every rom, don't have to download new SD Data.
Some roms perform better than others. I had a lot of luck with Jelly Bean roms on stock kernel, no need to overclock.
Figured I'd give you guys a ranking list from roms. Going from best to worst
1. Latest Jelly Bean Nightly 11/21 Stock Kernel - Great out of car and even faster in car - graphics medium
2. Flapjaxx's FJ Stock Rom Mod - OCGPU/CPU best performance (in car view only) - graphics high
3. Electro's Stock Rom - Stock Kernel with no OC Okay performance in both out of car view and in car view - graphics medium
im running AOPK milestone 1, You can kinda play the game....but all the cars are black the buildings are black and the road is black....Not really sure what is going on! but I do get the slowmo at first but after I go to the menu and go back to playing the game it starts to run smoothly....in black that is!
I noticed the slowness as well, I switched to the in car view and it runs much better. Give that a try...
Sounds like u downloaded the wrong SD data
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im running AOPK milestone 1, You can kinda play the game....but all the cars are black the buildings are black and the road is black....Not really sure what is going on! but I do get the slowmo at first but after I go to the menu and go back to playing the game it starts to run smoothly....in black that is!
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That's jelly bean right? I had some problems running games and with graphical glitches in jelly bean until I turned off HW overlay and that stopped my problems.
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I noticed the slowness as well, I switched to the in car view and it runs much better. Give that a try...
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Wow, yeah running in that camera mode is a lot better. Hopefully the fix the issues completely. Thanks for the tip!
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What do you mean?
Seems to run a little laggy on mine, and it's a real battery hog as well
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Seems to run a little laggy on mine, and it's a real battery hog as well
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Ditto, switching to in-car view is definitely a lot smoother, has decent graphics but looks like the limit of S3 Adreno 225 chip has been reached, this (and other games of similar graphic quality) may be enough reason for me to upgrade to note 2 later. I also have slow down problem with NBA 2K13.
No real graphic glitch however, if you see missing textures it has to be wrong sd data, remember we are Snapdragon NOT Mali.
Im on liquid RC7 with KK.12 kernel no overclocking and the game seems to run fine for me with no lags..however Tomdg07 is right its a battery hog which quite frankly isnt a surprise. I just got off a 30 minute subway ride and I was playing it the entire time..used up exactly 20% of the battery.
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Im on liquid RC7 with KK.12 kernel no overclocking and the game seems to run fine for me with no lags..however Tomdg07 is right its a battery hog which quite frankly isnt a surprise. I just got off a 30 minute subway ride and I was playing it the entire time..used up exactly 20% of the battery.
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Really? No lag? Hmm, what's that ROM? Is it one of the Jellybeanies? Have you tried in car view to see if it is even faster than out car?
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Really? No lag? Hmm, what's that ROM? Is it one of the Jellybeanies? Have you tried in car view to see if it is even faster than out car?
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Yes indeed no lag at all - Liquid is a jellybeanie you can find it in the original development thread. To be honest I havent had the need to try in car view because the out car view has been working fine.
I should mention though that whilst I have not over clocked I am using several build prop tweaks some of which Im sure optimize graphics and what not.
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Yes indeed no lag at all - Liquid is a jellybeanie you can find it in the original development thread. To be honest I havent had the need to try in car view because the out car view has been working fine.
I should mention though that whilst I have not over clocked I am using several build prop tweaks some of which Im sure optimize graphics and what not.
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Just tried NFS Most Wanted on Liquid with KK Kernel and no luck. I even tried some build prop tweaks. It just feels too slow. Weird.
Going to try deleting it and redownloading the SD Data instead of restoring it from Titanium. Will report back with results.
EDIT: No go either. Still low frame rates. On a good note however, Liquid Jellybean Rom is probably the most stable of the Jellybeanies.
OOOOKAY guys I am back with some interesting results!
I continued to try more roms and see the performance with Need for Speed Most Wanted. I first tried Flapjaxx's stock ICS rom with touchwiz with an overclock kernel and gpu OC. That ran better than any of the AOSP but still had some slowness to it.
Seeing as the stock roms tended to give more performance, I tried another stock rom. This one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766933. No OC kernel, everything stock pretty much. Here is what happened:
1. I restored NFS from titanium
2. NFS says this android is not compatible
3. I uninstall NFS and install it from the Playstore and redownload the SD data
4. Ran the game and observed that there was little to no lag! Well I'm sure it could be a bit better, the frame rate was totally playable and it actually felt speedy!
Now i'm not sure what is happening here. Either 1. the game downloaded a new SD data with lower graphics requirements, 2. the game recognized the device as a different device and choose the graphics setting accordingly, OR 3. the device just performs better @ mostly stock. Now can anybody inform me on how the SD Data actually works that would be great so I can pinpoint what it is.
My next test will be using the above rom that yielded good performance with flapjaxx's OC/GPU kernel to see if it speeds up the frames anymore.
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Tried the OC Kernel on the stock ROM which lead it to being slow again! I'm not sure now what to think. Going to wipe and go back to the 'better stock' kernel not the 'pure stock'.
After a bit more testing I see that without the OC kernel, the road actually is missing some water and effects which is probably leading to the smoother gameplay! If anybody else is testing this let me know what your results are!
I really just wish there was an in-game settings option to reduce the graphics quality...... (if there is and I'm missing it please fill me in)
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I really just wish there was an in-game settings option to reduce the graphics quality...... (if there is and I'm missing it please fill me in)
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Agreed. Right now there is no way to change graphics quality. Certainly would save me trouble. What I think is happening is that with some Roms and Kernels the game thinks we have higher hardware and cranks up the graphic quality thus slowing down the performance of the game.
What I found is every time I used an OC kernel of some type, the game slows. So it might be a kernel issue.
I just cant comprehend why despite having the same phone and same setup (i.e. rom, kernel etc) we get totally different results.
PS> Tomdg07 props to your state for pushing obama over the 270 he needed to win. Americans totally made up for giving dubya two terms.
I was testing some more Roms yesterday including Black IV and Electro's stock debloated Rom. Black IV had flapjaxx's kernel with the ability to OC and on the Electro was not OCable.
My results were the same. Something about flapjaxx's kernel or kernels with the ability to OC makes the game bump up in graphics thus making it slower. The game must be scanning the clockspeed or something or maybe it's something deeper than that. If I can I want to test out AOSP roms again to see if its the kernel or both the kernel + the rom.
Trying out flappjaxx's Jelly Bean rom with his GPUOC and CPUOC. No surprise there, graphics got bumped up.
What I did notice is that there is almost NO DIFFERENCE in frames (from what I could see) from Stock rom + AOSP/JB roms with OC kernel in BUMPER CAMERA MODE despite the higher graphics. To be clear, those of you on AOSP that are already using bumper mode will not get higher frames in bumper mode on something like a stock rom. There is little to no difference in bumper modes. Should be all that I can test now. I will be sticking with this Jellybeanie and playing NFS in bumper camera mode myself (in car view).
EA, give us graphic options. That is all.
UPDATE: Those of you that are finding this page and reading this post. Look on the front page for what roms are the best for this game.
Got an alert to update the game when opening it, after updating it won't even open, anyone else issues after update?
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Got an alert to update the game when opening it, after updating it won't even open, anyone else issues after update?
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Same issue. Luckily I had a backup of the SD data on my hard drive so I can revert back. But yeah something messed up in that download messed up the game for us.
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Same issue. Luckily I had a backup of the SD data on my hard drive so I can revert back. But yeah something messed up in that download messed up the game for us.
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Only form of a backup I have is in the nandroid backup I did before flashing cm10, I suppose I could dig it out of there somehow, but I'll give them a day or two to fix it first
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lcis.seeder
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
Has anyone tried it on their rooted Prime? I would love to try it but mine is gone for yet another RMA.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lcis.seeder
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
Has anyone tried it on their rooted Prime? I would love to try it but mine is gone for yet another RMA.
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Nope, but I'm just about to. I'll report back. Nice spot. Thanks for sharing.
Installed on my Stock but rooted prime now. Appears to eliminate all the stock browser lag I used to have. It's now blazing fast, and I can scroll while its still loading stuff which I was never able to do before. Holy mother of all fixes it seems like:good:
I installed it last night on my prime. It does lot for my prime. I also did some of the early investigation to what was really being fixed by this hack. I am glad Cyanogen has confirmed some of my theories. If you are rooted I would highly recommend installing it.
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fatski said:
Nope, but I'm just about to. I'll report back. Nice spot. Thanks for sharing.
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Tried this and also read up a bit on what it does. Unfortunately I don't think what this tries to do is an issue on the Prime. This basically makes sure there is always random data available for apps from a location that will block if there's none available. However, when I ran a command that was constantly consuming all the random data (cat /dev/random > /dev null), I could see that the random data was getting consumed but it wasn't causing a perceptibly adverse effect on anything else.
I also just ran the app for a while, and I didn't notice anything being more responsive. It will consume extra battery though.
Take look at my write up on the Google bug. That is what the author originally thought the problem was. What is probably going on is kernel lock contention due to the code that generates entropy when the pool is depleted.
Installed it just now, no discernible effect. Quick reboot... Chameleon launcher, app switching, Chrome, all smooth as butter. I am gobsmacked! I think have a feeling this works well for me because of the number of connections made by Chameleon, logged in accounts (I have 9 accounts logged in at all times) and apps syncing that I regularly exhaust the block device. Add to our already slow IO, any blocking at the kernel level will be multipled.
Going to monitor it some more and report back on battery life and any further observations. Thanks for the share! :good:
To all using this: please post some real before & after data. Anecdotes do nothing but cause confusion and misinformation.
xxbeanxx said:
To all using this: please post some real before & after data. Anecdotes do nothing but cause confusion and misinformation.
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it has no effect on any benchmarks so its hard to quantify. for my use it does not make a discernible difference in anything I do with my prime is about the best data you can get.
It has no effect whatsoever: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115049428938715274412/posts/GWr72W9zmY2
Will give it a try.
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To all using this: please post some real before & after data. Anecdotes do nothing but cause confusion and misinformation.
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pandaball said:
It has no effect whatsoever: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115049428938715274412/posts/GWr72W9zmY2
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I have done some benchmarks and it makes no difference to those whatsoever. This bothers me because I can't understand if this is supposed to do nothing, how does my device run orders of magnitude snappier all the time while running this compared with intermittent lag that I usually get (for example: waiting 1-3 seconds for the recent app list to show normally vs instant with this mod) . The CPU governor can't be it: I set cpu to max and use the performance governor and I still have massive lag. I have tried numerous things for I/O: different schedulers, different mount options to reduce writes on reads and improve write speed ie. noatime, nodiratime, discard, and nothing works! I have tried to narrow down a single process that causes the lag, no dice. I know I only have just under 2 days of testing behind me and yes I only have anecdotal evidence but I have been running this a long enough time with absolutely zero lag that I can't say it makes no difference for me. I'll continue testing but so far it has been too long to be placebo IMO.
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I have done some benchmarks and it makes no difference to those whatsoever. This bothers me because I can't understand if this is supposed to do nothing, how does my device run orders of magnitude snappier all the time while running this compared with intermittent lag that I usually get (for example: waiting 1-3 seconds for the recent app list to show normally vs instant with this mod) . The CPU governor can't be it: I set cpu to max and use the performance governor and I still have massive lag. I have tried numerous things for I/O: different schedulers, different mount options to reduce writes on reads and improve write speed ie. noatime, nodiratime, discard, and nothing works! I have tried to narrow down a single process that causes the lag, no dice. I know I only have just under 2 days of testing behind me and yes I only have anecdotal evidence but I have been running this a long enough time with absolutely zero lag that I can't say it makes no difference for me. I'll continue testing but so far it has been too long to be placebo IMO.
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Haha benchmarks dont equate to real life performance. Benchmark scores have been decreasing since gingerbread even though the new software makes everything faster
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The reason why your device *feels* snappier is because constant I/O activity ensures the CPU will remain at rather high clocks, producing the effect of a smoother experience at the expense of massive battery drain. The explanation of increasing the entropy does nothing by itself, you could cause a lot of I/O activity to anywhere in the emmc and it would produce a similar effect.
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ian1 said:
Haha benchmarks dont equate to real life performance. Benchmark scores have been decreasing since gingerbread even though the new software makes everything faster
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Indeed. That was my point, benchmark results were unchanged but user experience is different. Hrrrm
Didn't do anything for me. Uninstalled it.
Thanks for finding this
I was skeptical as many are about this. I did not see any improvement in Quadrant scores. I installed this for one reason only and it works!
I stream .m4v movies from my NAS drive to my TV through my TP. Before this was installed I would have problems with stuttering no matter what player I tried. Sometimes I would have problems right away, and depending on the player/movie I could watch about an hour before the stuttering/lag begins. I have been beyond frustrated, especially since my wife has an IPad 2 that plays the same movies flawlessly.
Since installing this I can now play my movies without a hitch. I don't know why, but it works. I only use it for this purpose as my other testing showed no major difference. I turn it off when I am not watching movies as I have read that the battery drain is increased.
I streamed 3 movies this weekend without a problem and 2 of them were back to back and I only used approx 35% battery.
Running AndroWook 1.51 and with 1.6 oc kernal.
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I was skeptical as many are about this. I did not see any improvement in Quadrant scores. I installed this for one reason only and it works!
I stream .m4v movies from my NAS drive to my TV through my TP. Before this was installed I would have problems with stuttering no matter what player I tried. Sometimes I would have problems right away, and depending on the player/movie I could watch about an hour before the stuttering/lag begins. I have been beyond frustrated, especially since my wife has an IPad 2 that plays the same movies flawlessly.
Since installing this I can now play my movies without a hitch. I don't know why, but it works. I only use it for this purpose as my other testing showed no major difference. I turn it off when I am not watching movies as I have read that the battery drain is increased.
I streamed 3 movies this weekend without a problem and 2 of them were back to back and I only used approx 35% battery.
Running AndroWook 1.51 and with 1.6 oc kernal.
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+ 1 here. Running last JB update + rooted, wasn't able to play heavy games since the update to JB when we lost the OC kernel from ICS, games were laggy, freezing,almost unplayable. After seeder.apk installation, <i am again able to play NOVA 3, Batman, Spiderman, Asåhalt 7, without any lag and high FPS, seems even better than when my Prime was on ICS OC to 1600. I don't care about what people say but what I experience o preformance, this is something I've learnt after all those years using Android devices. Give it try expecially if you run heavy apps. Battery is a bit worse, but who cares when the prime isnot overheating and run a lot better.
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I want to install it too, but as I understand there is no root for current JB yet, or am I wrong?!
as the uninstall?
So I'm looking for a phone for my mom. So I went to the store, took a look at the phones and they all seemed to perform well (like mine when I tried it at the store) but I don't want to take it home, install a game and have lag while playing it. So is there a game I can install at the store and see how well the performance of the phone is? I know that wont factor in real life use but I'm assuming if it can run a cpu/gpu intensive game, then it can handle the other minor things she will do on it with no lag.
hanielserrato said:
So I'm looking for a phone for my mom. So I went to the store, took a look at the phones and they all seemed to perform well (like mine when I tried it at the store) but I don't want to take it home, install a game and have lag while playing it. So is there a game I can install at the store and see how well the performance of the phone is? I know that wont factor in real life use but I'm assuming if it can run a cpu/gpu intensive game, then it can handle the other minor things she will do on it with no lag.
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Well I guess there isn't a specific game that I could run to see a phones performance. So is there anything I can do on it. I've read that swipping through home screens and zooming in and out on a browser can show you lag if any. Any suggestion would help, thanks.
hanielserrato said:
Well I guess there isn't a specific game that I could run to see a phones performance. So is there anything I can do on it. I've read that swipping through home screens and zooming in and out on a browser can show you lag if any. Any suggestion would help, thanks.
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Try opening Maps and see if you have scrolling lags. Also, see if there are lags when you change apps.
Hope I helped
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