Difference Between All The ICS Roms? - Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

THS 7.1, CM9 Kangs, Codename Android 1.5.5, Gummy for Fassy, AOKP Build 28. Hope to get feedback from some people who have tried them all.
Or just edit this table . I'm add more info once I get more info.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C0vlXLRzz-S1-g_5oFHmGLgrP_2JJk-wZ7tZASH1Bqo/edit

I will tell you its laggy at first but once its going its fine and I just fixed mms, but gummy is getting really good I recommend trying it or aokp they are both very solid roms. The CM9 kangs are a pain in the ass because I don't have access to THS source rdo I have to make mods to every kang release. CNA I dunno its CNA.... If you like it you like it I guess. I think now that gummy has all the old lockscreens and ROM toolbox it has the most options. Aokp prolly has the best options....
Sent from my Gummed up ICS Fassy..... Yes I said gummed.

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[Q] Do we need a Nexus S ICS port?

Many people would like to use AOSP ICS instead of TW ICS.
I think it would be nice to have a port, and Nexus S is made by Samsung, so I hope it's not that difficult.
Is any developer interested?
You must be new around here. I suggest you look around, as usual, there are some devs who are releasing custom Samsung ROM's, and there are others, like teamhacksung who are working on AOSP ROM's.
CM 9 by team hacksung will be AOSP so just wait buddy
ItsMyMama said:
CM 9 by team hacksung will be AOSP so just wait buddy
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CM is not AOSP. It's based on AOSP and then loads of stuff added to it. Personally, I prefer to start with AOSP and build up from there, rather than taking some other development group's idea of what I should have on my phone.
Not knocking the great work the CM team do, obviously. It's just not for me. I agree with the OP - AOSP FTW!
TheSaw said:
You must be new around here. I suggest you look around, as usual, there are some devs who are releasing custom Samsung ROM's, and there are others, like teamhacksung who are working on AOSP ROM's.
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Yes, you are right. Options are always good and there are always different opinions and needs.
But do more people who used stock ROMs before want to have stock ICS? I think it has so much more features: handling contacts, widget resizing...
ItsMyMama said:
CM 9 by team hacksung will be AOSP so just wait buddy
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sounds good
I just can't wait
I sed CM on my nexus one, top rom...

Confused which is better Passion or Euphoria

OK, this might be a dumb question for some, but i am confused. Which of the two ROMs is the better one? Is Euphoria the next generation Passion? I do not care about GPS but rather stable and bug free ICS ROM. Don't care for customization either...
I am currently on ICS Passion 11b5 and have some issues like, my ringtones stop working every now and then and I need to re-select them in my sounds. Phone is laggy and becomes unresponsive pretty often..
If customization isn't your thing then I'd stick with ICS Passion if I were you. However you should probably update. ICS Passion v13.1 has been out for a while and I hear that that rom coupled with the newest Kiss kernel (Sealed_with_a_kiss #4) make a good pair. You should try that before testing out Euphoria.
Try the AOKP rom, it is similiar to Passion with fewer bugs and less laggy.
If you like MIUI, there are 2 or 3 MIUI V4 roms being worked on. They run solid, just dont allow for much customization at this point.
faraband said:
Try the AOKP rom, it is similiar to Passion with fewer bugs and less laggy.
If you like MIUI, there are 2 or 3 MIUI V4 roms being worked on. They run solid, just dont allow for much customization at this point.
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Which one is the AOKP rom? I do not see it in the Dev section.
azsamsancho said:
Which one is the AOKP rom? I do not see it in the Dev section.
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AOKP = Android Open Kang Project - Milestone 4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1512518
Ice Cream Zenwich is also AOKP based and very good. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1499455
(Euphoria is AOKP based too. that's where all the customization comes from. Passion was based on CM9)
So the AOKP should be better than both Zenwich and Euphoria then? How come the AOPK Rom's thread is not very big (that's how I judge if a rom is popular)?
azsamsancho said:
So the AOKP should be better than both Zenwich and Euphoria then? How come the AOPK Rom's thread is not very big (that's how I judge if a rom is popular)?
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Ok, let me make this simple for you to understand.
Zenwich and Euphoria ARE aokp, not AOKP is better. So to make it clear, AOKP Roms are Zenwich, Euphoria, and Milestone 4. And if you judge a rom's popularity based on the number of posts then you're surely mistaken. The reason some roms have more posts than others are because the development of the rom has been out longer. That doesn't mean the rom is better (or more popular). In fact, the best way to judge a rom is by testing it yourself and finding the right one; kinda like buying a pair of shoes, or a car, or a woman.
The ONLY way you're gonna find the BEST rom for you is to take them for a test drive, give them a fair chance and use each one for a few days and see for yourself.
OK, good to know. Yes, I think you are right about the test drive .. and the women .. I guess I should install them and see. The thing is it generally takes some time to setup and configure everything back the way i need. But I will start with Zen probably because it has inverted apps built-in and see how it goes . Thanks!
What DJ said
djquick said:
Ok, let me make this simple for you to understand.
Zenwich and Euphoria ARE aokp, not AOKP is better. So to make it clear, AOKP Roms are Zenwich, Euphoria, and Milestone 4. And if you judge a rom's popularity based on the number of posts then you're surely mistaken. The reason some roms have more posts than others are because the development of the rom has been out longer. That doesn't mean the rom is better (or more popular). In fact, the best way to judge a rom is by testing it yourself and finding the right one; kinda like buying a pair of shoes, or a car, or a woman.
The ONLY way you're gonna find the BEST rom for you is to take them for a test drive, give them a fair chance and use each one for a few days and see for yourself.
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Well put DJ, and I agree totally!! These people questioning us for opinions on ROMs to choose, need to test them out and experience the ROM for what it is to see if it suits them.
I personally was a diehard Honey Fan of EB's Roms, until the ICS ROM's came out which addressed some issues I was having using SHoney, And Ive been moving forward with a ROM that has everything I WANT, not what other peeps need or desire!!
Again Its a personal choice, and should be made outta what you need and want from a ROM, not popularity!!
JMO!!

The AOKP versus CM9 differences thread

This is not a thread for "which one is better."
I've not found anywhere in the i777 forums a description of how the two AOSP roms relate in similarities and differences, something I believe would be a common question.
From my googling, it appears that AOKP has all of the same features as CM9, just with a different interface.
Those of you who know best: care to share your wisdom of other differences?
From what I've seen, AOKP is kind of a smaller project than CM in terms of device coverage, but that allows them to implement more features it seems. I found a pretty quick and simple write-up here: http://knowmydroid.com/blog/what-is-aokp-rom-how-is-it-different-from-cm9
I tried them both, I'm staying with AOKP
tysj said:
From what I've seen, AOKP is kind of a smaller project than CM in terms of device coverage, but that allows them to implement more features it seems. I found a pretty quick and simple write-up here: http://knowmydroid.com/blog/what-is-aokp-rom-how-is-it-different-from-cm9
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Great article!
Thanks for the thread, OP. I had been wondering this myself. I would like to use stock ICS (a la Galaxy Nexus) on my gs2, but CM9 and AOKP seem as close as I'm going to get for now (unless it's out there and I'm just not seeing it). Regardless, CM9 was giving me fits with a couple of games that I like to play and I used AOKP for a couple of hours, but that's about it. I'm not sure which is closer to stock ICS, but I'm told that CM9 is.
College kids nowadays, are so smart. Good for them.
Great read. Im leaning more towards AOKP. Been running Tasks rom for a few days and im loving it.
I did use cm9 for a while but now on AOKP and just loving it
It's really very snappy and great battery life
Task did a wonderful job
I've leaned more towards using AOKP, it's speedy, feature packed and more stable in comparison to the CM9 Nightlies. Until there's a stable release, I'm sticking with AOKP.
AOKP is really amazing, it's a great work put by people that care a lot about quality.
CM9 is breakthrough, it's the base pillar of several roms and it has really talented people contributing to it. Without CM support many devices wouldn't have AOSP ICS.
Both are great choices no matter which one you pick.
Fortunately we have great guys like atinm, codeworkx, Entropy and task (among others) that make this happen.
blackplague1347 said:
Thanks for the thread, OP. I had been wondering this myself. I would like to use stock ICS (a la Galaxy Nexus) on my gs2, but CM9 and AOKP seem as close as I'm going to get for now (unless it's out there and I'm just not seeing it). Regardless, CM9 was giving me fits with a couple of games that I like to play and I used AOKP for a couple of hours, but that's about it. I'm not sure which is closer to stock ICS, but I'm told that CM9 is.
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I also had this need and came across this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1601518
This was my first flashed ROM so have nothing to compare to other than stock Sammy Touchwiz'd ICS but it is great. Might just be what you're looking for.
tysj said:
From what I've seen, AOKP is kind of a smaller project than CM in terms of device coverage, but that allows them to implement more features it seems. I found a pretty quick and simple write-up here: http://knowmydroid.com/blog/what-is-aokp-rom-how-is-it-different-from-cm9
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Excellent report, thanks for sharing bro
skblr said:
I did use cm9 for a while but now on AOKP and just loving it
It's really very snappy and great battery life
Task did a wonderful job
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x2.
Why isnt i777 supported directly by AOKP? Is it because they are on a much smaller scale compared to CM? Will the i777 ever get AOKP direct support at some point? Not that it matters, Task650's Roms is badass as it is but I still wonder why it isnt supported.
I also have used both and I was a huge supporter of CM. I like AOKP better. As it stands right now I think AOKP is more polished and has more features currently. When CM9 comes more along I'm sure it will be equally as good. I flashed CM9 the day before yesterday just to see what progress has been made. I see they merged the custom lockscreen stuff and some other things, but I still found there were some things in AOKP that I missed so I flashed right back to AOKP. The good thing I must say is that both are AOSP and can usually go between the two without wiping data. I went from AOKP, to CM9, back to AOKP without doing a data wipe (just wiped the caches) and everything worked fine
tysj said:
From what I've seen, AOKP is kind of a smaller project than CM in terms of device coverage, but that allows them to implement more features it seems. I found a pretty quick and simple write-up here: http://knowmydroid.com/blog/what-is-aokp-rom-how-is-it-different-from-cm9
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It's a good article but it's quite dated given the number of nightly updates since it was written. CM9 has come a long way in terms of features that have been added:
- Theme manager
- Profiles, which allow you to control features available in the power saver option
- Lock screen shortcut configuration
- Galaxy SII specific advanced features
- Performance options OC, governor, etc.
Right now, other than the weather on the notification bar, you can get pretty much get in CM9 the same features in AOKP.
One thing that AOKP doesn't have is the ability to update to the latest nightly through ROM Manager in a few (4) clicks. That's is a big plus if you are an update junkie.
In any case my recommendation is that you try them both. It's all a matter of personal choice.
projekt1 said:
Why isnt i777 supported directly by AOKP? Is it because they are on a much smaller scale compared to CM? Will the i777 ever get AOKP direct support at some point? Not that it matters, Task650's Roms is badass as it is but I still wonder why it isnt supported.
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It's all about kernel sources. The ICS kernel sources have not been released for the i777, so the AOKP team won't touch it.

Using RomControl from AOKP in cm9?

Hello all,
I've been trying for the longest to port AOKP to Galaxy tab 7 plus, and so far I have gotten nowhere. The devs in our forums aren't interested in porting AOKP to our device. But there is a fully functional cm9 build working. I'm mainly trying to port AOKP for its customization options "RomControl" so is there a way to at least bring the romcontrol menu to a working cm9 rom?
MacZzang said:
Hello all,
I've been trying for the longest to port AOKP to Galaxy tab 7 plus, and so far I have gotten nowhere. The devs in our forums aren't interested in porting AOKP to our device. But there is a fully functional cm9 build working. I'm mainly trying to port AOKP for its customization options "RomControl" so is there a way to at least bring the romcontrol menu to a working cm9 rom?
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Doubtful, as the RC package relies upon a whole mess of framework and other changes to make it tick. I think you'd be better of picking off the pieces of CM9 that work and bringing those into the AOKP tree rather than going the other way. Figure out what the CM9 build has that your AOKP build doesn't (I imagine largely the device-specific tree) and see if you can bring those items into your build.
Its a driver issue. something is ring with the audio driver. I've tried compiling tens of roms and nothing gets passed the boot screen. I've made lots of logcats and they all came back with the same fatal error with the audio driver I'm guessing?
The problem is I'm not a dev at all.. I'm just following guides I see here on xda or any other forums. But I can't get any kinda real help I've been at this for more than a month and nothing so far. and like I said the devs in our section aren't interested in porting aokp they think cm is better. And there are only two devs we are seriously lacking devs too. That's another problem...

Current Status of CM7 on Facinate / Ingress ROM suggestions

Anyone know for sure what does and doesn't work on the stable cm-7.2.0-fascinatemtd.zip build?
Just trying to get something non-stock that can run Ingress well enough.
Any other suggestions for ROMS? Keeping as much memory free as possible is key as well as working GPS obviously.
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flaystus said:
Anyone know for sure what does and doesn't work on the stable cm-7.2.0-fascinatemtd.zip build?
Just trying to get something non-stock that can run Ingress well enough.
Any other suggestions for ROMS? Keeping as much memory free as possible is key as well as working GPS obviously.
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have you tried jelly bean? jelly bean is ridiculous smooth and keeps memory free.
ztotherad said:
have you tried jelly bean? jelly bean is ridiculous smooth and keeps memory free.
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ztotherad said:
have you tried jelly bean? jelly bean is ridiculous smooth and keeps memory free.
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If you think thats the best suggestion point me to the best one.
Lots and lots of info this section and its hard to sort through whats still current.
PS. Can I use TRWP instead of CW?
flaystus said:
If you think thats the best suggestion point me to the best one.
Lots and lots of info this section and its hard to sort through whats still current.
PS. Can I use TRWP instead of CW?
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yeah, you gotta use pa_315 kernel to use TWRP. the best, is probably cm10.1 nightlies. or you could try slim which was just released Mon. it's definitely nice. I suggest going to the development forum on here and start your adventure to radness, brotha
EDIT: here's hps kernel thread, look for the pa_315 kernel zip
EDITdos: forgot to add url, lol
here it is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149067
Hrm... wanting to keep it simple. Maybe I should stick with clockwork.
flaystus said:
If you think thats the best suggestion point me to the best one.
Lots and lots of info this section and its hard to sort through whats still current.
PS. Can I use TRWP instead of CW?
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the paranoid android builds have included twrp and is a really nice rom.
you can flash their kernel to any of these roms to obtain that on any other ROM
All the roms here for the fassy are really all good ones, and very personal preference.
hard to go wrong with any of them...
Proven Decision methods::::
flip a coin,,, draw straws,,, eenie meenie minie moe,,,magic 8-ball,,,Close eyes and point,,,
best thing to do is read, read, read, then read what each are all about, and of you have the time test them ALL out yourself, thats the only way to know for sure what fits your style best,,, go ahead and get titanium backup (pro $$,, worth it for rom jumping) learn how to use it and have some jellybean fun...
here is my very short overview of all the main ROMs, in no particular order:::
slim bean and pac-man are new to the scene and are slightly less proven at this point, but the maintainer seems to be on top of things.
slim - very un-bloated, yet high on features/options
pac-man - combination of best from AOSPA + AOKP + CM10.1, self explanatory
CyanogenMod 10.1 - straight from the awesome ability of JT1134, for the fascinate, we all wouldn't be as far along without him and the people/teams he has helped
[ROM] [AOSPA] PARANOIDANDROID -- per app dip settings, pie controls,very well built decent features/options
Baked Blackbean - very well built with lots of features/options
HellyBean - most Kernel/Overclocking options built in, very well built with lots of features/options
aokp 4.2.2 (unofficial) - very well built with lots of features/options
[CM10.1][JELLYBRO] - - very well built with lots of options
[JB] [4.2.2] Avatar ROM - lots of themes, well built
GeeWiz 4.3 - very well built -- proprietary Samsung RFS file system-- not compatible with other Roms/Kernels,, very fast well functioning
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hhp_211 said:
the paranoid android builds have included twrp and is a really nice rom.
you can flash their kernel to any of these roms to obtain that on any other ROM
All the roms here for the fassy are really all good ones, and very personal preference.
hard to go wrong with any of them...
Proven Decision methods::::
flip a coin,,, draw straws,,, eenie meenie minie moe,,,magic 8-ball,,,Close eyes and point,,,
best thing to do is read, read, read, then read what each are all about, and of you have the time test them ALL out yourself, thats the only way to know for sure what fits your style best,,, go ahead and get titanium backup (pro $$,, worth it for rom jumping) learn how to use it and have some jellybean fun...
here is my very short overview of all the main ROMs, in no particular order:::
slim bean and pac-man are new to the scene and are slightly less proven at this point, but the maintainer seems to be on top of things.
slim - very un-bloated, yet high on features/options
pac-man - combination of best from AOSPA + AOKP + CM10.1, self explanatory
CyanogenMod 10.1 - straight from the awesome ability of JT1134, for the fascinate, we all wouldn't be as far along without him and the people/teams he has helped
[ROM] [AOSPA] PARANOIDANDROID -- per app dip settings, pie controls,very well built decent features/options
Baked Blackbean - very well built with lots of features/options
HellyBean - most Kernel/Overclocking options built in, very well built with lots of features/options
aokp 4.2.2 (unofficial) - very well built with lots of features/options
[CM10.1][JELLYBRO] - - very well built with lots of options
[JB] [4.2.2] Avatar ROM - lots of themes, well built
GeeWiz 4.3 - very well built -- proprietary Samsung RFS file system-- not compatible with other Roms/Kernels,, very fast well functioning
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just to add onto the euroskank cm10.1 builds; they're cm10.1 through and through, but with cherry picks. so in the official nightlies, the rom won't have these added till later. they have to be merged/added.
Hey guys got Slimbean running. It does seem pretty smooth.
I'll test it with Ingress later.
Thanks!

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