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I know this has been going around for a bit now with the memory leak on most Jelly Bean roms, as many other users yes I'm getting it to, but at this right moment just left the phone now, been playing on it now and then for past hour or so and its stopped at between 300MB/200MB free ram, and is stable.. will play with phone a little longer and leave it over night to see any change...
Just curious really, is this normal and that my device isn't that special at all lol...
And not bother carrying on and flash back to original rom and just wait for a solution or just wait even longer for official OTA..
The issue only appears on Rom's based on the official source code (e.g. Cyanogenmod and AOKP), not the ones based on leaked builds by Samsung. So it all depends on which Rom you have installed.
Additionally, even if you are prone to the issue, it depends on how you use the device to result in how fast it will cause significant issues and require a reboot.
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The issue only appears on Rom's based on the official source code (e.g. Cyanogenmod and AOKP), not the ones based on leaked builds by Samsung. So it all depends on which Rom you have installed.
Additionally, even if you are prone to the issue, it depends on how you use the device to result in how fast it will cause significant issues and require a reboot.
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Not had chance to try the leaked version, tried every single way, read all forums and still no way to get it working or I would... Never had trouble with past roms on other phones, but of course new phones new challenges...Always up for one...
Any way I was using the cyanogenmod 10, love everything about the rom, was fine all day when i left house at 12pm and by time i got home it was working just fine by time i got home 5 hours later.. And was on it testing all new features and testing my apps, as well as setting them up for daily use.. it was only when connect to wifi it started to do it (maybe nothing, usually is but its always a long shot, never was good at programming or coding but love to help if i can, if only if its useless or little info lol)
But thanks anyways
Afaik the memory leak is triggered by notification bar and/or lockscreen so it really does not depend on what you use but how you use it.
Some hours is usually fine, I had to reboot it every other day which is annoying but not a show-stopper.
I have been a member for a long time, but I never post anything so in that sense I'm new enough that I can't post this in the forum I wanted to, so I'm asking here. This is going to sound like a hateful rant and I'm sure someone is thinking, "If she knows that, then why is she hatefully ranting?" I am not ready to give up yet, so I'm explaining how I arrived at this point.
I have had my Gtab for about a year and a half. In that time I have rooted it and changed the ROM several times. I moved up to the 1.2 bootloader. In all this time I haven't really used it much because it just doesn't work right no matter which rom I try. Each rom will be ok for a few days, and then it starts getting glitchy. I got so fed up with it, I just parked it for several months and didn't touch it. Just recently I have installed the smoother bean rom. It is sort of ok but it doesn't 'just work'. I'm not a bigtime gamer, I like angry birds and sudoku. I surf the internet, watch videos, read books/magazines that are in epub format. When I study, I highlight text and make notes. When I sit down to study, I need it to work. No hangups or lockups or slow/frozen screens. When I get it out to use at the KH to follow along with the material I studied previously, I need it to just work. It has been to the point that I had to open the thing and physically unplug the battery to get it to behave. I was so excited to get this tablet and read all the information in these forums about it, so I knew what I was getting into when I bought it. The bloom is off the rose and I just want a tablet that does what I want it to do. I don't even care if it has jellybean or ICS or even Honeycomb at this point... I just want a tablet that works without having to fiddle around with the software.
And I don't install crazy amounts of apps. I think there are 7 or 8 that I use. Mainly Moon+ reader, Dolphin browser, Pinterest and Sudoku and Angry birds. I also like to sync my google stuff, calendar, contacts, email.
I'm am thinking I might put it back to stock and let it do all the OTA updates and see how it runs. But if I do that, I have to do the fix that makes the google market and stuff work. If I can do that and in the end have a working tablet that is decent and stable, I'll do it. Can anyone give me any feedback after having done this themselves? How was your tablet after? I remember how horrible it was out of the box. Is it better? MUCH MUCH Better? or just a little better.
Is there another rom that has been proven to be stable? I'm not worried if the camera or bluetooth doesn't work, I don't use those with the tablet. I don't think they are working right now, I'm not sure I haven't tried them since I installed the smoother bean rom. It can be any version of Android, I don't care.
I have given some thought to selling my gtab and getting another tablet, but I don't want to do that just yet. I know there has to be a solution, I just haven't found it yet.
Any feed back or suggestions would be most appreciated. The developers work hard on this tablet and have kept it going when Viewsonic themselves quit on it. I think that its really cool that there is such a devoted community of people who still love this tablet.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
My recomendation for "stable"
No expert here, but I have multiple g-tablets. For the "stable" ROM, I use Cyanogenmod cm-7.2.0-smb_a1002.zip
Hope that helps,
Jack
I have very similar experience as yours. Bought the gtab long ago, played for a while, then stashed away for several month, but pulled it out again while some brilliant devs actually put JB on it.
I will never ever go back to stock on gtab. Both Smoother Bean and G-Harmony Jellybean ROMs work reasonably well. In my opinion, they are already pushing the limit of the hardware.
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No expert here, but I have multiple g-tablets. For the "stable" ROM, I use Cyanogenmod cm-7.2.0-smb_a1002.zip
Hope that helps,
Jack
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Whereabouts can I download that ROM? I googled the file name and I found the cyanogen download page with the various releases but I wasn't sure which one to pick. I didn't see any that said for the gtab and to tell the truth, it was late and my eyes were sleepy! If you know of a place to download the ROM, I would appreciate it. I would like to give it a shot and see how it goes on my tablet. I'm also going to try out reinstalling JB. I didn't realize there was a update for smoOther bean. So, we'll see what happens.
For stability and full function of the Gtablet, you will probably want to use a Froyo rom. All other versions of Android required re-written drivers and/or kernel, as Viewsonic did not release an official version, and never released their source code. My favorite Froyo rom is:
TNT 6039
I used that rom with VTL Launcher for months, until TeamDRH released their JellyBean rom. You might need to make some minor modifications to see all the apps in the Play store, just read the thread.
I also have another Gtab that is running CyanogenMod. This became my 'stable' tablet. My parents, kids and nephews have used it for months with no complaints. If it gets a little slow, just wipe the cache and it speeds right back up again. Hardware acceleration does not work on Gingerbread, so major 3d games often have graphical glitches, but it is very stable. Here is a link:
CyanogenMod 7.2
If you can wait a few more days (hopefully!) TeamDRH will be releasing a new JB rom with their new kernel. I am currently running my own CM10 build with the new kernel and it is great. Very fast and stable. None of the released JB roms ran very well on my 'experimental' Gtab, so I built my own. After a ton of work, it is running even better than my 'stable' tablet, so I would be willing to bet that when they release their new rom, it will be the best available. Judging by the description of your usage, I would try CM 7.2.
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For stability and full function of the Gtablet, you will probably want to use a Froyo rom. All other versions of Android required re-written drivers and/or kernel, as Viewsonic did not release an official version, and never released their source code. My favorite Froyo rom is:
TNT 6039
I used that rom with VTL Launcher for months, until TeamDRH released their JellyBean rom. You might need to make some minor modifications to see all the apps in the Play store, just read the thread.
I also have another Gtab that is running CyanogenMod. This became my 'stable' tablet. My parents, kids and nephews have used it for months with no complaints. If it gets a little slow, just wipe the cache and it speeds right back up again. Hardware acceleration does not work on Gingerbread, so major 3d games often have graphical glitches, but it is very stable. Here is a link:
CyanogenMod 7.2
If you can wait a few more days (hopefully!) TeamDRH will be releasing a new JB rom with their new kernel. I am currently running my own CM10 build with the new kernel and it is great. Very fast and stable. None of the released JB roms ran very well on my 'experimental' Gtab, so I built my own. After a ton of work, it is running even better than my 'stable' tablet, so I would be willing to bet that when they release their new rom, it will be the best available. Judging by the description of your usage, I would try CM 7.2.
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Second that! :good:
When will TeamDRH be releasing a new JB rom?
Do you mind to share the new rom?
Thanks for the feedback ya'll. I did install the CM7 ROM and I also tried another one, I can't remember right now which one it was. I was tempted away by the G-Harmony Jellybean ([ROM-AOSP][BL-1.2]G-Harmony Jellybean 4.1.2 ODEXed (UPDATED 12/28)) , I installed the Overclocked version and I have to say it is doing very well. I did have some SOD's but I supercharged it and bumped up the CPU with No Frills CPU and since then it has had no trouble. Its been since Saturday that I installed this ROM and I have used it a bunch since then. I guess time will tell.
I do have a question tho about a problem I'm having but it's absutely not a deal breaker. I can't get google calendar to sync. I know other ROMS have had a package to install that fixed this but I wasn't sure if I could do that with this rom. I don't want to jack up my install. I don't absolutelly have to get the calendar working right now. I don't have reliable internet at home, so the only time I get online with the thing is when I wifi tether to my phone. Was just wondering if anyone knew how to resolve this issue. Again, I would post in the forum for this ROM but I'm not allowed yet.
Thanks!
DaggerDave said:
For stability and full function of the Gtablet, you will probably want to use a Froyo rom. All other versions of Android required re-written drivers and/or kernel, as Viewsonic did not release an official version, and never released their source code. My favorite Froyo rom is:
TNT 6039
I used that rom with VTL Launcher for months, until TeamDRH released their JellyBean rom. You might need to make some minor modifications to see all the apps in the Play store, just read the thread.
I also have another Gtab that is running CyanogenMod. This became my 'stable' tablet. My parents, kids and nephews have used it for months with no complaints. If it gets a little slow, just wipe the cache and it speeds right back up again. Hardware acceleration does not work on Gingerbread, so major 3d games often have graphical glitches, but it is very stable. Here is a link:
CyanogenMod 7.2
If you can wait a few more days (hopefully!) TeamDRH will be releasing a new JB rom with their new kernel. I am currently running my own CM10 build with the new kernel and it is great. Very fast and stable. None of the released JB roms ran very well on my 'experimental' Gtab, so I built my own. After a ton of work, it is running even better than my 'stable' tablet, so I would be willing to bet that when they release their new rom, it will be the best available. Judging by the description of your usage, I would try CM 7.2.
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Can you share the ROM, please?
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Can you share the ROM, please?
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Do you mind to share the new rom?
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When DRH is ready to release their new rom, it will likely be on the other forum first. Search Google for "gtablet roms 1.2/1.3" and that forum will be listed at the top of the page. Can't link you to it, else I may anger the XDA Moderators! Sounds like they are very close, just waiting on a new recovery.
As for my current build, just a basic CM10 build with a few minor customizations (my chosen boot animation, removed/replace system apps, changes to build.prop, etc.). I cannot share it because I am using the new (unreleased) kernel, and it's a pretty 'plain' version of CM10, but you can easily build it all yourself. Once you have your build environment setup, it is easy to rebuild an updated version any time you like. Only thing is, you are on your own when it comes to troubleshooting and support! If you are interested, I can link you to the info I used to figure out how to build the kernel and CM10, and the Git locations of the required source code. You would need a decent computer running 64bit Linux (I use Arch Linux, but Ubuntu is easier to setup), about 50GB hard drive space, and some free time. I just did it for fun, plus I'm impatient and wanted to try the new kernel, and none of the JB roms at the time would run well for me.
Best ROM for G-Tab
Hi all,
I bought my G-Tab whentheyfirst came out and have tried about 13 or 14 ROM's over the last (nearly) two years. In my opinion the best is SmoOtherBean by Nobe1976. Out of the box it is pretty good, I made a few minor adjustments after the install and it is running perfectly.
Changed dpi to160 (enabled Music / Movies in the Play Market)
Used ROM Toolbox to delete Music FX and DSP Manager (fixed problem where music would suddenly blare or change volume)
Set min/max CPU to 312 / 1200 (seems to wake up faster, no lags when browsing,etc)
Give Nob1976 a thumbs up if you like his ROM - stop the trolls who have chased off so many devs.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900562
This post. A million times this post. Smooth bean looks promising but I've been through so many roms with mediocre to poor tab perf.
[=torilyn73;37717272]I have been a member for a long time, but I never post anything so in that sense I'm new enough that I can't post this in the forum I wanted to, so I'm asking here. This is going to sound like a hateful rant and I'm sure someone is thinking, "If she knows that, then why is she hatefully ranting?" I am not ready to give up yet, so I'm explaining how I arrived at this point.
I have had my Gtab for about a year and a half. In that time I have rooted it and changed the ROM several times. I moved up to the 1.2 bootloader. In all this time I haven't really used it much because it just doesn't work right no matter which rom I try. Each rom will be ok for a few days, and then it starts getting glitchy. I got so fed up with it, I just parked it for several months and didn't touch it. Just recently I have installed the smoother bean rom. It is sort of ok but it doesn't 'just work'. I'm not a bigtime gamer, I like angry birds and sudoku. I surf the internet, watch videos, read books/magazines that are in epub format. When I study, I highlight text and make notes. When I sit down to study, I need it to work. No hangups or lockups or slow/frozen screens. When I get it out to use at the KH to follow along with the material I studied previously, I need it to just work. It has been to the point that I had to open the thing and physically unplug the battery to get it to behave. I was so excited to get this tablet and read all the information in these forums about it, so I knew what I was getting into when I bought it. The bloom is off the rose and I just want a tablet that does what I want it to do. I don't even care if it has jellybean or ICS or even Honeycomb at this point... I just want a tablet that works without having to fiddle around with the software.
And I don't install crazy amounts of apps. I think there are 7 or 8 that I use. Mainly Moon+ reader, Dolphin browser, Pinterest and Sudoku and Angry birds. I also like to sync my google stuff, calendar, contacts, email.
I'm am thinking I might put it back to stock and let it do all the OTA updates and see how it runs. But if I do that, I have to do the fix that makes the google market and stuff work. If I can do that and in the end have a working tablet that is decent and stable, I'll do it. Can anyone give me any feedback after having done this themselves? How was your tablet after? I remember how horrible it was out of the box. Is it better? MUCH MUCH Better? or just a little better.
Is there another rom that has been proven to be stable? I'm not worried if the camera or bluetooth doesn't work, I don't use those with the tablet. I don't think they are working right now, I'm not sure I haven't tried them since I installed the smoother bean rom. It can be any version of Android, I don't care.
I have given some thought to selling my gtab and getting another tablet, but I don't want to do that just yet. I know there has to be a solution, I just haven't found it yet.
Any feed back or suggestions would be most appreciated. The developers work hard on this tablet and have kept it going when Viewsonic themselves quit on it. I think that its really cool that there is such a devoted community of people who still love this tablet.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions![/QUOTE]
Running SmoOther Bean but it starts up laggy?
Nice you gave me some more settings to try. Don't know that I want to change the DPI or have any issues with volume. Did change CPU settings. Anything else you'd recommend?
After it's run for about 10 minutes, it seems to work OK, only occasional lag. I'm setting background processes limit to none on every boot up. Anyone have a way to make that change stick between reboots?
Thanks!
Downloadbob
ugsny321 said:
Hi all,
I bought my G-Tab whentheyfirst came out and have tried about 13 or 14 ROM's over the last (nearly) two years. In my opinion the best is SmoOtherBean by Nobe1976. Out of the box it is pretty good, I made a few minor adjustments after the install and it is running perfectly.
Changed dpi to160 (enabled Music / Movies in the Play Market)
Used ROM Toolbox to delete Music FX and DSP Manager (fixed problem where music would suddenly blare or change volume)
Set min/max CPU to 312 / 1200 (seems to wake up faster, no lags when browsing,etc)
Give Nob1976 a thumbs up if you like his ROM - stop the trolls who have chased off so many devs.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900562
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Check out nobe1976 UnOfficial -BAKED ROM
For anyone who is "still looking" for something stable, check out noble1976 modified Blackbean (on this site).
I am very satisfied with this "beta" version that this maybe will be the last one I'll be using (its that stable for me).
A big THANK YOU to Noble1976 for his hard work on getting this version to work on the gtablet and his PAC rom and all the other help he has given to us. :good:
What's your experience like with Blackbean?
Are you seeing any startup or sleep lag like I'm getting with SmoOther Bean? I switched from Go Launcher EX to the default one (Apex?) and it does seem a bit better.
Would like something a bit more responsive for daily use though. What's involved to flash Blackbean over SmoOther Bean? Repartition, etc?
Thanks for the heads up on this - might give it a shot when I hear back from you! Sounds like a good weekend project!
Downloadbob
_dave said:
For anyone who is "still looking" for something stable, check out noble1976 modified Blackbean (on this site).
I am very satisfied with this "beta" version that this maybe will be the last one I'll be using (its that stable for me).
A big THANK YOU to Noble1976 for his hard work on getting this version to work on the gtablet and his PAC rom and all the other help he has given to us. :good:
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Are you seeing any startup or sleep lag like I'm getting with SmoOther Bean? I switched from Go Launcher EX to the default one (Apex?) and it does seem a bit better.
Would like something a bit more responsive for daily use though. What's involved to flash Blackbean over SmoOther Bean? Repartition, etc?
Thanks for the heads up on this - might give it a shot when I hear back from you! Sounds like a good weekend project!
Downloadbob
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BAKED Bean you will must NVFlash to the new 2013DRH setup. The boot.img in that ROM is the latest fosser2 3.1.10 kernel. The mounting is completely different other then the System. So updating the Tablet with the latest that is linked in the OP should be done to the T.
downloadbob said:
Are you seeing any startup or sleep lag like I'm getting with SmoOther Bean? I switched from Go Launcher EX to the default one (Apex?) and it does seem a bit better.
Would like something a bit more responsive for daily use though. What's involved to flash Blackbean over SmoOther Bean? Repartition, etc?
Thanks for the heads up on this - might give it a shot when I hear back from you! Sounds like a good weekend project!
Downloadbob
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The only "lag" I'm seeing is after the opening screen animation the screen goes blank for 10sec or so. So, just wait till the regular default screen appears.
And be sure to do what Nobe1976 said. It went very easy for me changing over, for I already have used NVFlash 2013DRH version with
nobe1976 "PAC" ROM. Good Luck.
Hi all,
So, I took the leap of rooting my HOX+ (international) about 2 months ago, and the ROM of choice was CM.
I loved it! Love everything about it. At the time, the "stable" channel hadn't been opened, so I was using the version in nightly - it's been moved to stable now - 10.1.
Since I was attached to the stable repo, Goo Manager notified me when 10.2 moved into nightly. After a couple of days of having it stick in my status bar, nagging for an update, I just clicked and let it do its thing.
Unfortunately, this broke my phone . I got an error something along the lines of "the process com.android.phone has stopped". When I tapped "okay" the notification would re-appear after <1 second. I've since found out via Google this is something to do with my kernel (why the auto-update didn't update the kernel too is beyond me =s ) - but at the time, I just wanted a functioning phone with minimal fuss, and thought it'd be best moving myself to stable anyway. This is what I did.
That was Tuesday of this week. Between then and now, the "signal"/reception on the phone (I use Vodafone, so coverage isn't spectacular anyway) has been awful - calls randomly dropping, and it just being unreliable and generally a pain. This is despite it being the supposedly "stable" channel, and the version being the same as the one I installed from nightly (previously). Maturing seemed to make the ROM more buggy, not less!
In the interests of having a working phone, I decided to leave CM. Atm, I'm going to try out an AOKP build - though officially unofficial, I'm hoping that minimalistic => less things to break. We'll see how it goes.
I've run various Google searches and the HOX+ finally seems to be getting (after nearly a year) a good developer community - with Lloir at the forefront of it, and Maxwen's blade kernel. Could anyone recommend a flexible, good looking, regularly updated ROM? I'm not a Sense fan (not long before rooting, Sense 5 came out, and it was "the straw that broke the camel's back" so to speak), but otherwise...I'm not really sure what I'm looking for. GPL would be good, and I'm a fan of minimalism (having as little clutter in the way of unused apps as possible). An active and engaged developer/dev community is a must - I don't want to install software that will become obsolete within a week, and have no prospect of a new release. Other than that, I'm more or less happy to try everything/anything!
Cheers,
AA.
PS - I should probably mention, although I'm in no way a dev, I am quite comfortable with tech, and don't mind spending a bit of time researching things to get stuff working. I'm a dedicated GNU/Linux user, and after a fair bit of distro-hopping I've come full circle to landing on Xubuntu. My view of my phone is basically a more awkward, more delicate version of my PC - the concept of "bricking" a computer is a joke, and I think until this possibility is 100% eliminated on phones, the developer community is always going to be slightly held back. I think the models used for developing Linux OSes could/should be applied to the ROM development process, too - as brilliant as the community is atm, it does have the "exclusive hacker culture" feel to it still.
The kernel didn't update because the device is s-on, also the call dropping bug, is you're problem no one else mentioned it. Just do research on the small amount of ROMs we got.
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The kernel didn't update because the device is s-on, also the call dropping bug, is you're problem no one else mentioned it. Just do research on the small amount of ROMs we got.
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Hi,
How come you can be so sure of the cause? The 'symptom' must be relatively common, I suppose a bit like the technological equivalent of a headache and nausea.
The device is S-ON, you're right. I've read a little but I've not found anything specific to the UK about potential risks. You've got the same phone as me, and you're in the UK too, would you recommend going S-OFF? Does it cause problems with your carrier (I read somewhere that the manufacturer wasn't so bothered, but the carrier was - as it allowed the user to change certain things to do with the way the phone received carrier signal)?
Last bit on ROMs - I've read/seen quite a lot, but the information just isn't out there (unless you personally badger the devs, perhaps). The most official most ROMs get is a thread here. Compare that to (for instance) a Linux distro - you can more or less guarantee that if a distro is linked to on Distrowatch, it'll have it's own site, you can read up about source, included packages, what distinguishing features that OS has, what DE/package manager, etc. There's virtually no equivalent for phones - the best I've seen is xda's ROM listings under the device...if you're lucky one or two of the bigger ones (e.g. CM) will have it's own site. So, in lieu of that, I'm wanting to get a feel of what other users are doing, and what they'd recommend
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Hi,
How come you can be so sure of the cause? The 'symptom' must be relatively common, I suppose a bit like the technological equivalent of a headache and nausea.
The device is S-ON, you're right. I've read a little but I've not found anything specific to the UK about potential risks. You've got the same phone as me, and you're in the UK too, would you recommend going S-OFF? Does it cause problems with your carrier (I read somewhere that the manufacturer wasn't so bothered, but the carrier was - as it allowed the user to change certain things to do with the way the phone received carrier signal)?
Last bit on ROMs - I've read/seen quite a lot, but the information just isn't out there (unless you personally badger the devs, perhaps). The most official most ROMs get is a thread here. Compare that to (for instance) a Linux distro - you can more or less guarantee that if a distro is linked to on Distrowatch, it'll have it's own site, you can read up about source, included packages, what distinguishing features that OS has, what DE/package manager, etc. There's virtually no equivalent for phones - the best I've seen is xda's ROM listings under the device...if you're lucky one or two of the bigger ones (e.g. CM) will have it's own site. So, in lieu of that, I'm wanting to get a feel of what other users are doing, and what they'd recommend
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you cannot S-OFF the X+ currently, so i'm not going into that. Also you stated you flashed from CM10.1 > 10.2, which i assume was a dirty flash (no full wipe etc)
it's like installing the Arch + xubuntu on the same hard drive, which is bound to cause issues. So a full wipe was needed, as you should know "nightlies" are well nightlies, UNSTABLE
the closest we have to distrowatch are the rom reviews and so on. there's my PureAosp, AOSP+ both based on 4.3
CM as well you know what that is.
AOKP no longer supported but stable.
as "best rom" and so on are fround upon, due to the flame and chest beating and so on. which mean's you won't get a good answer tbh, and i'am quite impartial when it comes to rom's as i won't recommend anyone's rom's nor my own.
Lloir said:
you cannot S-OFF the X+ currently, so i'm not going into that. Also you stated you flashed from CM10.1 > 10.2, which i assume was a dirty flash (no full wipe etc)
it's like installing the Arch + xubuntu on the same hard drive, which is bound to cause issues. So a full wipe was needed, as you should know "nightlies" are well nightlies, UNSTABLE
the closest we have to distrowatch are the rom reviews and so on. there's my PureAosp, AOSP+ both based on 4.3
CM as well you know what that is.
AOKP no longer supported but stable.
as "best rom" and so on are fround upon, due to the flame and chest beating and so on. which mean's you won't get a good answer tbh, and i'am quite impartial when it comes to rom's as i won't recommend anyone's rom's nor my own.
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First thing first, cheers for this man! It's good to be able to have a "conversation" with a dev - although Linux distros have got more infrastructure in place, there is a lack of 1:1 as a result (of having so many devs, etc).
It wasn't a dirty flash at all - every time I've written a new ROM I've wiped everything (or at least, ticked all the boxes in TWRP), then after reformatted - you can see the output of the 'make ext4fs' in front of your eyes. So unless it's that there's some partition which is write-protected (I assume the kernel is - since every time I've had to flash a new kernel - regardless of the wiping in TWRP, the phone just boot-loops without the kernel being flashed)...it's been clean.
I flashed 10.1 BEFORE it was in stable - so my phone was still pointing at the nightly repo (I guess?). GooManager pestered me into updating, and when I did, I ran into issues (presumably, the auto-update isn't intelligent enough to write a new kernel, and/or its in this write-protected partition which can't be accessed from the OS?)
It'd been a while since I'd put 10.1 on, and thought it'd be worth checking to see if it was in stable yet (it was). Did full wipe - as above - and then hit that annoying bug with call dropping. So I'd gone from being working on nightly to broken on stable. Time for a new ROM, methinks...looked around, and decide to post here.
As things stand I'm using AOKP (just because it was another popular ROM I knew, not really for any other reason). It's doing my head in though - either I'm being thick, or there's no option to edit settings in ANY app. I'm missing some of the gloss CM has too, things like it coming with a File Manager installed (why the hell would you not have one?!). From what you say, flashing 10.1 might be worth trying again...I'll go through from ground 0 and hopefully it won't break this time.
I get the thing with not wanting to advertise...so instead can I ask what you yourself use on your HOX+? Do you use it as a main phone, or is it just something you use for developing?
ArminasAnarchy said:
(presumably, the auto-update isn't intelligent enough to write a new kernel, and/or its in this write-protected partition which can't be accessed from the OS?)
I get the thing with not wanting to advertise...so instead can I ask what you yourself use on your HOX+? Do you use it as a main phone, or is it just something you use for developing?
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you are right on point 1, it's in the write protected partition, and 2nd point, i tend to use my own rom's....i'am in the mindset, if i don't use my own rom's why should other people?
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you are right on point 1, it's in the write protected partition, and 2nd point, i tend to use my own rom's....i'am in the mindset, if i don't use my own rom's why should other people?
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Haha, I see the logic!
Okay: so we've narrowed it down to a kernel issue. With my AOKP flash, what I did (blade wasn't for the right Android version I think) was extracted the .img file from the ROM.zip and flashed that.
With CM 10,1 (i.e. stable channel) - in your opinion would it be better to do the same, or use the blade kernel?
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Haha, I see the logic!
Okay: so we've narrowed it down to a kernel issue. With my AOKP flash, what I did (blade wasn't for the right Android version I think) was extracted the .img file from the ROM.zip and flashed that.
With CM 10,1 (i.e. stable channel) - in your opinion would it be better to do the same, or use the blade kernel?
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ALL my rom's are extract kernel from zip, i'am not sure what max did with his AOKP.....but 100% all mine you pull from zip and flash that
you can try the CM10.2 btw M1 not long ago released....just an idea..
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ALL my rom's are extract kernel from zip, i'am not sure what max did with his AOKP.....but 100% all mine you pull from zip and flash that
you can try the CM10.2 btw M1 not long ago released....just an idea..
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Re-installed 10.1 (stable) again. Same issue, even though I've only had it running for 24 hours, it's dropped the call and didn't seem able to get 3G data (it was stuck at "E" for some reason, which makes doing anything impossible) despite being in the middle of the city and not near anything obvious that should block it like a huge block of flats etc.
I installed 10.2, we'll see how it goes.
Just a dumb question, but what makes an OTA update different from a ROM? More specifically, why can OTAs flash fine while retaining user data while installing a ROM generally requires data to be wiped?
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It's never required, but is recommended. It can cause issues with a new ROM and it's also been known to sometimes cause issues with ota updates as well. Some people would have to wipe data after doing an update to fix strange issues.
I know in the past when coming from a 4.0 ROM and going to 4.1 or higher almost always needed data wipes. Some data gets associated with an older os and when that data is copied to a newer one, that app may not be compatible with the newer os version, causing issues.
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I've only got my S4 four days ago, but I've been ROMing before then for years. Things are a LOT tighter here in S4 land, as you can read all over. ROMing started in the old non-locked down phone days, and is still heavy on Nexus devices. Nexus devices are the ones that are first out the door with a new Android OS. The 'Nexus 5' by LG is out now to introduce KitKat (4.4). As soon as the new Android OS is released on Google's Open Source servers, ROM devs grab it and adapt it to a zillion other phones. Up until last Friday I had a custom ROM 4.4 KitKat on my Galaxy Nexus (got it from VZW on day1 Dec 2011) using full CWM recovery mode to swap ROMS in and out any time.
Answer to your question... an OTA OS is what they want you to have, with all the Samsung/VZW add-ons, a nice safe for them package. A custom ROM you load can be anything else, super clean AOSP Android, or heavily modified with all sorts of cool add-ons various developers have created. Since these S4's are so locked down, devs are really restricted in what they can do to a ROM, and it a real headache to get them loaded after that.
My phone came with MI1 and I rooted it an hour after getting home with it last weekend. I played with Safestrap, but decided there wasn't anything worth ROMing out there for an S4 compared to what I knew on my old open phone. I took the MK7 load 2 days ago, still rooted thanks to the write-ups here. The Samsung/VZW 4.3 is actually pretty nice in my opinion (once you 'Turn OFF' some things or 'Freeze' them with Titanium Backup). I don't plan on any ROMS for the S4. I'm actually relieved with that. ROMing becomes an addiction. My dog is happier with the new phone too, as we get to go on more walks with my new found non-ROMing time.
While cleaning the garage, I found my wife's old nook BNTV250. She said I could have it. So, I've been trying to get a custom rom on there.
I have experience with custom roms. I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 running Philz and Lollipop as well as a Note 10.1 running TWRP and Kitkat. So, I have experience with successfully installing recoveries and flashing custom roms to devices.
This one isn't as easy for some reason.
I can get a rooted stock rom by following the directions here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZyfWpBJpiE
but no matter what I try, I can't get any further than that.
When I tried to sign in with the google play store, I am told my password is bad (which it isn't). Then I get an email from google in my gmail account telling me that someone (which was me) has tried to sign in to my account but was denied because the device they were using is way too old. So, getting anything on to my device via the play store that I need, such as a terminal emulator, TWRP install, etc, is apparently out of the questions.
gapps won't flash without errors, so that is out of the question, too.
the included es file explorer won't see the internal SD card for a reason I haven't been able to figure out (yes, it has root access), so copying apk files over and installing them from there is out.
When I boot off of ann sd card, and attempt to flash custom recoveries from the internal storage, I am also unsuccessful. With TWRP, I get errors. With CWM, it says it was successful, but it isn't.
So, every road I go down to get CM on this thing is blocked.
Am I missing something, or did I just miss my window by not doing this two years ago?
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While cleaning the garage, I found my wife's old nook BNTV250. She said I could have it. So, I've been trying to get a custom rom on there.
Am I missing something, or did I just miss my window by not doing this two years ago?
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Try:
1. A factory reset
2. The instructions here---they worked for me as a noob.
That could leave you with CM 10.2. If you'd like something higher, this post might send you in the right direction after you succeed with CM 10.x, but it does become more complicated. Or you can just try to get there directly.
It can't be too late:fingers-crossed: There's life in that tablet yet!
Edit: I see that the CM 10.2 build is no longer posted over at Cyanogenmod. If you want to try it, let me know. I have the zip file.
Sorry, I haven't posted my update yet. I managed to find a solution to the problem with the included es file explorer. That allowed me to install some apk's like terminal emulator which allowed me to get TWRP on, and then the figurative flood gates were open from there.
I am disappointed. I flashed both liquid smooth kitkat, and a lollipop build. Neither are very responsive, and both seem to have great difficulties awakening from a sleeping state (the lollipop one was worse). I looked around, but couldn't find a kernel to flash. Is there a kernel we should be using to speed up these roms? If not, I think I will give up because I stand stand the slowness.
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Sorry, I haven't posted my update yet. I managed to find a solution to the problem with the included es file explorer. That allowed me to install some apk's like terminal emulator which allowed me to get TWRP on, and then the figurative flood gates were open from there.
I am disappointed. I flashed both liquid smooth kitkat, and a lollipop build. Neither are very responsive, and both seem to have great difficulties awakening from a sleeping state (the lollipop one was worse). I looked around, but couldn't find a kernel to flash. Is there a kernel we should be using to speed up these roms? If not, I think I will give up because I stand stand the slowness.
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I read through some CM11 threads and was amazed at the different experiences people had, ranging from "works great" to "really sluggish". Speaking only from a logical perspective it seems to me that the more advanced OS you try to shoe-horn into an older device, the more likely you will exhaust (or at least severely task) its hardware resources. Like trying to install Windows 10 on a machine designed for XP with hardware that just barely meets the minimum requirements of Win 10.
All I can say is that CM 10.2 works "great" on my NT. I've yet to encounter an app that I wanted which would not run (of course, my wants may not match yours). I can read the newspaper, listen to music, Kodi runs great--I can even stream a video from the NT to my TV (which has an old laptop connected) using VLCDirect. So lots of life in the thing from my perspective. CM 10.2 does get cranky once in awhile, but a reboot sorts that out. I expect many newer tablets are the same in that respect.
Let me know if you change your mind and want to try CM10.2
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I read through some CM11 threads and was amazed at the different experiences people had, ranging from "works great" to "really sluggish". Speaking only from a logical perspective it seems to me that the more advanced OS you try to shoe-horn into an older device, the more likely you will exhaust (or at least severely task) its hardware resources. Like trying to install Windows 10 on a machine designed for XP with hardware that just barely meets the minimum requirements of Win 10.
All I can say is that CM 10.2 works "great" on my NT. I've yet to encounter an app that I wanted which would not run (of course, my wants may not match yours). I can read the newspaper, listen to music, Kodi runs great--I can even stream a video from the NT to my TV (which has an old laptop connected) using VLCDirect. So lots of life in the thing from my perspective. CM 10.2 does get cranky once in awhile, but a reboot sorts that out. I expect many newer tablets are the same in that respect.
Let me know if you change your mind and want to try CM10.2
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You talked me into it. I'll give 10.2 a shot. I'm assuming that's based on Jellybean. I think every app I want to use will still work on Jellybean.
Any recommended builds? Any recommended gapps?
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You talked me into it. I'll give 10.2 a shot. I'm assuming that's based on Jellybean. I think every app I want to use will still work on Jellybean.
Any recommended builds? Any recommended gapps?
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I finally located the 10.x downloads here. I'm using the last stable build, 10.2.1 (Android equivalent 4.3.1). You should use the gapps package that is listed for 10.2 build here.
Like I said in an earlier post, I followed the excellent directions from digixmax here and while the initial boot was kind of confusing, things did sort themselves out. But that method assumes you are starting from stock. If you can't get back to there you'll need to try something else.
Once in a blue moon some app in the PlayStore will be listed as incompatible, I guess because Google can't quite figure out what to make of these modded tablets, even though the Android version is well within reach of CM 10.2. That happened recently to me with my local newspaper app. I just used this site to download the app outside the PlayStore and then side-loaded it. It installed and works just fine.
Good luck! I hope this all works to your satisfaction
Well, I installed CM 10.2. Everything works, albiet VERY slowly. I'm going to go google for a kernel now so I can do some overclocking. If I can't find one, then I'm afraid I'll have to let this go. It is just too slow and unresponsive the way it is to be productive.
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Well, I installed CM 10.2. Everything works, albiet VERY slowly. I'm going to go google for a kernel now so I can do some overclocking. If I can't find one, then I'm afraid I'll have to let this go. It is just too slow and unresponsive the way it is to be productive.
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Sorry it didn't work out well for you. It's obvious to say, but either there is a hardware issue or something did not go right in the flashing. Otherwise no one would bother with these things.
You've probably already looked at this, but just in case, under Settings/Performance/Processor I show a resting CPU freq. of 300 MHz, the governor set at "interactive, and a max. CPU freq. of 1008 MHz. Theoretically you could try playing with those if you have the same figures, but I'm not sure where that would take you.
The only custom kernel I could find for this was for KitKat, so I reflashed with that. I clocked both the minimum and the maximum to 1200 MHz. Even at that, my Antutu benchmarks score was just under 14k, or less than half of the score for my Samsung Galaxy Note 2. I never got "great" results with this device so far, but the KK with the custom kernel is the best I have got so far. I'm tempted to try this KK kernel with the lollipop build to see what happens. If I do that, I'll report my results.
This device is over four years old now. Add to this that, at the time, it wasn't exactly designed to break any speed records. All it was intended to do is read ebooks, and play a few other select apps. No GPS, no bluetooth. I guess asking it to run today's resource intense apps like Facebook may be asking too much of it. But, for some weird reason, I can't let this go now. It is kind of like an electronic pet to me. I keep it by my easy chair, and I pick it up and start doing something with it quite often.
Yeah, I was just getting ready to point you toward the kernal for CM 11 but you got there without my direction.
It's really puzzling to me that your system seems so slow. Maybe mine is too! I've never owned a tablet before (I don't count my much-modded NST e-ink reader!) and this one running CM 10.2 seems just fine to me, certainly no worse than laptops I often work with. I have an inexpensive LG smartphone I just bought to use as an mp3 player after my much-loved Insignia Pilot finally died. It runs KitKat and seems about as responsive as my Nook Tablet, maybe slightly better, so I guess a lot is what we are used to.