my friend has an xda II & he bought a Jabra 250 BT headset, he have no idea how to use it & moreover i never had BT in any of my phones so both are ignorant regarding BT, now he asked me a question, "How can i dial a contact from my Headset without the use of the phone, is their any SW i need to use?" i tiold him, i have no idea but i will forward his question to this forum, so could someone answer this question pleaaaaaase ?
the point is the right BT profile ... the headset profile doesn't work except during a phone call ... what you need is a "hands free" profile which will deal with all types of system "sounds" ... then you can use MS voice commands s/w ... however, I didn't try this myself, but in theory it should work
I have this combination. I've not checked the groups recently but from personal experience you cannot dial from the headset with the exception of a bolt-on (name escapes me) that will allow you to use the headset button to redial the last number.
I also have Microsoft voice thingy which works well but you need to initiate the call from the pda and then switch it over to the headset once connected. This little bolt on does manage the operation of the bluetooth radio and disables it to save battery after one minute. If you want to initiate a call like this then it is best to kick the bluetooth off first otherwise there is a delay before the headset links up and the person you just called is left hanging around whilst you frantically try to transfer the call to the headset!
Having said that and with all its limitations the two do work well together. One thing I did do based on various comments on this web site was to update my firmware to latest version.
Hope this helps
Hello everyone,
I have tried the two reg patch by Sin () to add the Handsfree profile to my Qtek 2020 (with WM2003SE). I use the very good Bluetooth headset by Globalsat BTH-808, and I have seen these things:
- When in Headset mode: the blu BT Led on the Globalsat flash one time per second. If one call incomes, an icon on the top bar light on in my Qtek and I can use the Globalsat to answer the call, or I can transfer audio back to Qtek and use it to answer the call.
- When in Handsfree mode: the blu BT Led on the Globalsat flash three time per second (awful). An icon noticing the HF Profile is ever on the top bar (with or without a call incoming, and this is not good, i think). If one call incomes, I can use at the same time the Globalsat or the Qtek (audio comes out from the Qtek and from the Globalsat).
Where is the good useful way of this? Why do I need the Handsfree profile too? to make voice dialing (adding relative software)? I didn't liked it and I disabled back the HF profile...
Can someone explain to me how the Hadsfree profile is good?
Thank's
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Hands free mode is great when using the right OS.
hands free is more robust. It offers caller ID, etc.
Headset will not do caller ID but I believe it may offer better battery life.
Also with your 2.02-2.06, you will notice while in hands free that the mic on the headset does not work, only the one on the phone.. Even though you can hear sound on the headset!!
If I am wrong, please tell me.
One OS that supports Hands free is the 2.20 translated or in original Chinese. But the caller ID is not consistent on some if not all devices. The caller ID will not be displayed if you have already received the call or if it is in your contacts. It also has some bugs when someone calls on the call waiting and you switch over to it, you will loose the sound on both the headset and the phone until you turn off hands free and then back on.
The other OS, 2005, is GREAT with the Hands free and the phone program, no bugs AT ALL with bluetooth and the phone, BUT, the contacts, email and calendar database are different so it will not work with many programs and the memory size is messed up and small.
I am switching back to my 2.20 translated today.
I wish someone wuld fix it.
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ccrrazzzy said:
Hands free mode is great when using the right OS.
hands free is more robust. It offers caller ID, etc.
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Hmmm, no... with my device (Qtek 2020, aka XDA II/MDA II and WM2003 SE 2.06) the CallerID works great with either Headset profile and Handfree Profile...
ccrrazzzy said:
Headset will not do caller ID but I believe it may offer better battery life.
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Yes this is real: Headset is more light for battery life cause it lets BT headset to go online only during call incoming...
ccrrazzzy said:
Also with your 2.02-2.06, you will notice while in hands free that the mic on the headset does not work, only the one on the phone.. Even though you can hear sound on the headset!!
If I am wrong, please tell me.
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According to me you are wrong, cause my device have the headset mic working in either Headset and Handfree profile. The only practic difference between the two profiles are that HS goes idle and come online only during call incoming, instead HF is online not stop.
ccrrazzzy said:
One OS that supports Hands free is the 2.20 translated or in original Chinese. But the caller ID is not consistent on some if not all devices. The caller ID will not be displayed if you have already received the call or if it is in your contacts. It also has some bugs when someone calls on the call waiting and you switch over to it, you will loose the sound on both the headset and the phone until you turn off hands free and then back on.
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Again... with my device all works fine, but I don't like the headset all time in waiting/online modem with its led blinking speedly and the boring icon on the top bar (so if you miss a call or receive a sms, you see the baloon tooltip to advice you that more than 1 alert are waiting). I don't know about your bugs cause I never tested these cases
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The other OS, 2005, is GREAT with the Hands free and the phone program, no bugs AT ALL with bluetooth and the phone, BUT, the contacts, email and calendar database are different so it will not work with many programs and the memory size is messed up and small.
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I am yet not happy about the WM2003SE 2.06WWE speed on booting and its stability... so I will not go further on with Magneto/WM2005... When I will be able to do, I will buy a new device with Magneto natively working...
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I am switching back to my 2.20 translated today.
I wish someone wuld fix it.
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Good flashing and have a nice weekend!
The difference between the two right now using WM2k3SE is:
Handsfree allows you to redial the last number using your BT headset (hold headset button for 2-3 secs).
Headset allows to use the BT headset to talk on the phone.
Other than that they don't do anything else with the current OS (at least for me)
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I am using a Jabra BT800 and I have talked to people who are using Erickson HBH200 and HBH660 and one guy who is using an xLive. The people I have talked to using 2.02 or 2.06 or Sin's 2.02-2.06 merge, all said these devices are not having the caller ID working and the Hands Free would give them the stereo affect.
You are the first.
I have tried 2.02, 2.06 and the Sin's combined one. All would not display properly with the caller ID on my BT800. And even with the addition of the reg key, hkey local machine, software, Microsoft, Bluetooth, "HandsfreeProfileOn", I would get the caller ID, only if the number was not in my contacts and it was not already in my call history of the BT device.
I have also tried BT tools, I have tried every patch and tried all the widcomm stuff too.
I am very curious to know what you have for a ROM and any BT additions or patches and I am very interested to know what caller ID BT device you have.
Maybe you misunderstood what I was saying as well, please know that I was talking about caller ID being displayed upon the BT device, not the phone.
One other thing that Hands free does is allows for the possibility of BT activated voice dial. Like the the voicesignal program on my MPX300.
There has to be a hardware specific driver for each device so when you press the button, it transfers the audio and Mic to the BT headset and starts the voice recognition program. Other wise, we would have had BT voice dial on our HTC devices by now. http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=15191&start=50
ccrrazzzy
I misunderstood the BT device you're using for caller ID (I don't have such device, I was talking about the phone itself).
As far as redialing using the Headset, I am using the Motorola HS850 and I was able to use it to redial the last number. However I end up turning the Handfree off when I don't need it in order to avoid the Mic issue on the headset. When I paired the headset, I chose headset profile only. When ever I need the handfree capability, I normall go under Start/Settings/Connections/Bluetooth/Devices hold my stylus on the device (HS850) then choose "Set as Hands-free" on the pop menu.
For Crrrrraaaazzzyyy:
For Crrrrraaaazzzyyy:
Sorry for your device... I can tell you that with the Globalsat BTH-808 (see the ebay link below), it works smooth in headset Profile (1 or 2 seconds and I can answer from the headset button), and it works smooth in Handfree profile (but as I said, i don't like the behaviour): you can buy the headset from here
http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6334980179
Have a nice day!
BT
Sorry I was not clearer at first. I was speaking about the caller ID on the BT headset or in a BT car audio system.
Hands free is needed to have features like caller ID on the BT device and voice dial and to be able to scroll through the BT device's caller ID history and make calls from that while leaving your cell phone safely tucked in your briefcase or hip case.
With my MPX300, because it supports BT voice dial through the BT headset, and with my caller ID on my Jabra BT800 BT headset, I can have all the power of my phone on my ear; being able to make calls through the caller ID history and through dialing via voice dial by speaking the phone number OR speaking the contacts name AND be able to see who is calling me, all while my cell phone-PDA is about 30 feet away!
I just wish we had this on the XDAII because I hate my MPX300; small screen and low memory make it useless.
Through the 2.20 OS, I am able to get caller ID functioning somewhat, but I have to disable call waiting. However to get BT voice dial to work, we will need someone to make a driver like the one that is in the MPX300 and use software like FONIX or www.voicesignal.com
Here is how we can make voicedial work on BT.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=19233&highlight=
XDAII-TSM500 and Jabra BT800 incompatibility ???
I cannot use neither the microphone nor the headphone of the BT800 instead of the XDAII for listennig mp3 files or recording notes.
When I use headset mode, I can speak and hear throuhg BT800 and it is possible to use the buttons to answer and hang during a phone calling, but is not possible to dial, see the caller number and other features.
When I use handsfree mode, I can get most of features but the BT800 microphone does not work and I have to use the one of the PDA.
Any way, only it is possible to use the BT800 in phone mode, not in PDA mode. However it works perfectly whit my IPAQ.
Could anybody give me any idea ?
BT
Please read everything.
Again,
With a caller ID device like the BT800, it needs Hands Free mode to work right. 2.02 and 2.06 do not do Hands Free well.
Only 2.20 and 2005 but 2005 has other bugs. In 2.20 you must disable call waiting or live with clicking upon Tools, Hands-Free Off, then Tools, Hands-Free On to resume the sound on the BT headset when you try to switch back to the first call. You will have to do this even if you ignore a call.
2005 works VERY well with BT and the phone but there are other bugs like lack of memory and database not compatible with third party programs.
I am sorry ccrrazzzy
I did not mention I have two other poblems:
One is that I am a beginner whith these machines, less than two weeks working whith them, and some concepts are confusing to me.
The other is, my short english (obvious ?) make me misunderstand things and to explain them is even worse.
I understood that all problems appear using the phone and not using the PDA for listening mp3 files, for example. When I use the BT800 whith my IPAQ 5500 (headset only) works like a wired headphones and I thought that it should work in the same way whith the XDA, forgeting the phone features.
I will try whith 2.20.
Many thanks for your answer and excuse me.
mp3 will not work unless you get http://www.bluetake.com/products/BT420EX.htm or the HP one.
While using Headset profile, in 2.02, 2.06 and 2.20, The BT800 will work but I experienced an 8 or 9 second delay before call is transfered to the headset when someone call me. Calling out is OK.
Hands free and 2.20 is only good way with BT800.
No audio on BT headset on the XDAII, no matter what OS... Like the mono audio on your other pda, it will not work on xdaii.
I am trying the xLive now, will post results. It has built in MP3 player and is BT cell phone Hands free. Only $90.
These will not make you look like you are from outer space
http://www.itechdynamic.com/html/border22.htm
Support HiFi audio, stereo but I doubt they will work on the XDAII.
You could make them work with the widcomm stack but that stack does not work with Hands Free and I forget if it works with Headset.
If this thing had caller ID and worked for sure with the XDAII, I would get it.
I'm looking at getting one of Sony's Bluetooth watches... I've seen the 150 music that I like, but was wondering does anyone have these with a G1? Do the two talk to each other??
Can I make use of the caller display, text message notification, call notification and call termination features of the phone???
Cheers!!!
SE MBW currently doesn't work with Android. The LM technologies watches/bracelets work, but for caller id only (I haven't tried if it displays the name or the number only).
As soon as Google releases Bluetooth API, I will start working on an application that will make all the watches fully compatible.
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SE MBW currently doesn't work with Android. The LM technologies watches/bracelets work, but for caller id only (I haven't tried if it displays the name or the number only).
As soon Google release Bluetooth API, I will start working on an application that will make all the watches fully compatible.
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Cheers MoneyToo,
Does the watch work at all? If callerdisplay doesn't work, will it vibrate with calls and/or show the number? Can I terminate calls, or get a warning for texts or if you're out of range of the phone?
Cheers!
Sony Ericsson MBW - doesn't work at all (non standard connection)
LM Technologies watches - uses Headset profile so it works on every device - vibrates on incoming call and displays the phone number (or person's name if the device supports this feature). When there's an incoming call you can press a button to accept the call (no ignore call button). I haven't really tried that on Android but on most systems it doesn't work with text messages (only Sony Ericsson and maybe some others). Out of range notification works.
moneytoo said:
Sony Ericsson MBW - doesn't work at all (non standard connection)
LM Technologies watches - uses Headset profile so it works on every device - vibrates on incoming call and displays the phone number (or person's name if the device supports this feature). When there's an incoming call you can press a button to accept the call (no ignore call button). I haven't really tried that on Android but on most systems it doesn't work with text messages (only Sony Ericsson and maybe some others). Out of range notification works.
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That's a shame... was looking to get the Music one... guess there's no point with a G1 then... :-(
Does the new 1.5 SDK have the necessary bluetooth APIs for this project to get started?
Nope...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=554551
Xperia X10 have been using.
Phone "Accessories" section,
I bought the Hi-Fi Wireless Headphone FM Radio MW600.
Although this product is compatible with phone accessories;
-The phone does not show the caller's id.
-The phone does not show the name of the music id.
- FM Radio MW600 Hi-fi, wireless headphones connected to my phone,
Incoming call ring tone is playing faster than normal.
This reason, my phone ring tone is playing very bad.
I am waiting for help in an emergency.
What phone do you Pair with MW600..?
Is MW600 already pair correctly as Media & Phone Headset in your phone..?
Try This Step...Reset your MW600 (Turn OFF MW600 - Holddown Power Button "until pairing indicator appear" - "Press & Hold" Both "Power & Call Button" until MW600 Turn OFF)..then Try to Re-Pairing your MW600 with the phone (Set Phone Bluetooth to "Visible").
* MW600 seem Doesn't Show the Caller ID..but it Show Only a Phone Number.
* In Several/Most Phone Type like I've Try with Xperia X10, AINO U10, Samsung Galaxy Spica & Samsung U900 (SouL)..MW600 Will Not Display Track or Music ID..It only Displaying a "WronG Time/Clock" (Paired with Samsung Device)..Don't ask Me Why..
* The Radio should be Work Seperately with a Bluetooth..when Radio beeing Use..Bluetooth will Disconnect with the Phone as "Media Headset" but It Still Pair as "Calling Headset" (We Still able to Receive Call).
* There Should be NO PROBLEM with a Phone RingTone..?!?
Hii Shadows
you say, I did it,
case, no change.
Thank's
Hello ,
for the caller's id,music id it an android issue ,i tried my mw600 with a cheap sony ericsson,and all works well ,but on x10 no :/ hum .
for the issue with the fast ringtone i have it too,and this since the official 2.3.3 update =S ,with 2.1 and 1.6 no probleme,also i have another problem some times when i listen music,then i have an incoming call ,if i answer,it works well,but sometimes when i hang off ,the mw600 stay freezed and displays like an incoming call all the time,the only solution is to turn it off the on again ,i think sony ericsson messed with the bluetooth in 2.3.3 .
by the way sorry for my bad English
Other than the commonly known issues of only displaying phone numbers and no TrackID, I've had no difficulty with my MW600 on my x10 under Wolf's or FeraLab's ROMs (Both based on 2.3.4).
One issue I HAVE had is that I can't be sure which media app is going to steal the focus of the Play/Pause, FF/RW buttons on the device. If I run TuneIn Radio or the Stock Media app, I can't control the Walkman app (my preference) until I reboot the phone. Hopefully I can find a solution to this one. Terribly annoying.
On Xperia P stock firmware, I notice that my bluetooth headsets (older, tried and proven Jabra 250 and Parrot CK3000 evolution) allow me to pick up and hang up phone calls with the button(s). However, using the "call pickup" button does not activate voice dialing like I'm used to with other devices, or even with CM9.
Is there a way to hack my desired Bluetooth usage (i.e. start voice dialing/voice search) into the device without using CM9? I've tried several apps like Vlingo but they don't work either.
I've noticed similar behaviour on the Xperia Arc by the way....