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Just got a new thunderbolt and here is where I am at.. I "think" I've tried just about everything before I'd ask here since this whole superuser thing seems to be a problem had by more than a few people.
1. Tried the http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005292 root method. Did not work. Never got past step one. No big deal.
2. Followed this http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Thunderbolt:_Full_Update_Guide and did the root by hand. Went through fine with no problem.
3. Upon reboot noticed that Titanium backup FC's superuser. BUT root explorer works.
4. went to manage app's and cleared data for superuser. Did not work.
5. Redid the final step of pushing su and setting permissions. Did not work.
6. Reinstalled busybox from market. Did not work.
7. Updated superuser from market. Did not work.
8. Loaded Rom Manager and tried to fix permissions. Did not work. could not gain rights.
I'm not against doing the whole process over. Would I just start at step one and redo the whole process?
From a technical standpoint what would let root explorer be able to gain access but no other program? Just for informations sake.
Any other suggestions of what to try? If I missed something I apologize. Still reading.
Thanks
Bruce
Fixed - 7/3/11 - 9:45am EST
Just got an update to SU. Said yes to install and everything is perfect now.
Enjoy
Bruce
I just saw this on the XDA home page. Its a new super user app. As we know, the SU app on CM7 is a little buggy and doesnt always give super user permissions. Maybe this app will work better for us. Im going to be trying it out soon.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
UPDATE: So I installed it and tested all my root apps. Seems to work well. I will give it a day or two and see if I have any of the apps fail to get root permissions. If this works and fixes the SU problems we have, then this is a great thing for us CM7 users.
jsgraphicart said:
I just saw this on the XDA home page. Its a new super user app. As we know, the SU app on CM7 is a little buggy and doesnt always give super user permissions. Maybe this app will work better for us. Im going to be trying it out soon.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
UPDATE: So I installed it and tested all my root apps. Seems to work well. I will give it a day or two and see if I have any of the apps fail to get root permissions. If this works and fixes the SU problems we have, then this is a great thing for us CM7 users.
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Since I am very familiar with ADB and the command line, I tore apart the apk in the linked thread OP to make sure I understood what was happening during the install. I moved the original su binary and Superuser.apk to my emmc (internal memory card), manually pushed the new files out to my phone, and then rebooted.
Once CM7DX2 came all the way up, I started doing some testing and noticed the the original Superuser APK was still showing up in my app drawer. If DOESN'T appear to be conflicting with the new SuperSU APK, but I'm not sure. I have had a few times of the SuperSU app stop responding and asking to either force close or wait. After hitting wait a few times, I ended up just FCing the app.
Once everything smoothed out, the SuperSU seems to have worked, bu, I was still receiving "not responding" messages from the SuperSU app when apps were asking for Root access.
I am going to also cross-post this to the linked OP thread and see if Chainfire wants more digging into this.
Also, as a side note, I think the reason the CM7DX2 Superuser APK was still appearing is that it MAY be installed as part of 2nd-init. I'm not 100% sure about this.
So, in conclusion, for CM7DX2, I think this needs more digging in to and I will offer to work with Chainfire to see what we can do.
Ciao!
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Since I am very familiar with ADB and the command line, I tore apart the apk in the linked thread OP to make sure I understood what was happening during the install. I moved the original su binary and Superuser.apk to my emmc (internal memory card), manually pushed the new files out to my phone, and then rebooted.
Once CM7DX2 came all the way up, I started doing some testing and noticed the the original Superuser APK was still showing up in my app drawer. If DOESN'T appear to be conflicting with the new SuperSU APK, but I'm not sure. I have had a few times of the SuperSU app stop responding and asking to either force close or wait. After hitting wait a few times, I ended up just FCing the app.
Once everything smoothed out, the SuperSU seems to have worked, bu, I was still receiving "not responding" messages from the SuperSU app when apps were asking for Root access.
I am going to also cross-post this to the linked OP thread and see if Chainfire wants more digging into this.
Also, as a side note, I think the reason the CM7DX2 Superuser APK was still appearing is that it MAY be installed as part of 2nd-init. I'm not 100% sure about this.
So, in conclusion, for CM7DX2, I think this needs more digging in to and I will offer to work with Chainfire to see what we can do.
Ciao!
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Thanks Moon Shadow. The only time I had it hang on "asking for root access" is with Titanium Backup. I think that had to do with the SuperSU app freezing though when trying to get into the settings tab in the app. It just freezes up when selecting that and I had to go into application seetings and manually force stop the app. After that, everything worked fine. I think its just that settings tab for some reason.
The way I installed it was installed SuperSU from the market, then uninstalled the old Super User through the market. I then opened SuperSU and it asked to update so I did. After that, I went through all my root apps and the new SuperSU prompt popped up for all and I granted access. I too see the old SU in the app drawer. Opening that though shows that the only thing that its granting root access to is the new SuperSU app. It doesnt seem to be conflicting with anything so far.
Moon Shadow - NM said:
Since I am very familiar with ADB and the command line, I tore apart the apk in the linked thread OP to make sure I understood what was happening during the install. I moved the original su binary and Superuser.apk to my emmc (internal memory card), manually pushed the new files out to my phone, and then rebooted.
Once CM7DX2 came all the way up, I started doing some testing and noticed the the original Superuser APK was still showing up in my app drawer. If DOESN'T appear to be conflicting with the new SuperSU APK, but I'm not sure. I have had a few times of the SuperSU app stop responding and asking to either force close or wait. After hitting wait a few times, I ended up just FCing the app.
Once everything smoothed out, the SuperSU seems to have worked, bu, I was still receiving "not responding" messages from the SuperSU app when apps were asking for Root access.
I am going to also cross-post this to the linked OP thread and see if Chainfire wants more digging into this.
Also, as a side note, I think the reason the CM7DX2 Superuser APK was still appearing is that it MAY be installed as part of 2nd-init. I'm not 100% sure about this.
So, in conclusion, for CM7DX2, I think this needs more digging in to and I will offer to work with Chainfire to see what we can do.
Ciao!
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Kind of random but Moon, you are a goddamn machine. The moment something great releases you take it apart and make it better. Good **** man, good ****.
Just including my experience...
SuperSU is working like a champ, but had major issues until I removed Superuser completely.
Here's how I installed:
- Install SuperSU from market
- Uninstall Superuser from settings > applications
- Launch SuperSU and allow it to update it's binary
- Delete superuser.apk from system/apps (use root explorer, es file explorer, terminal, etc...)
- Reboot
Since changing over to SuperSU, I haven't seen a single hang while an app is requesting su permissions.
xawen said:
Just including my experience...
SuperSU is working like a champ, but had major issues until I removed Superuser completely.
Here's how I installed:
- Install SuperSU from market
- Uninstall Superuser from settings > applications
- Launch SuperSU and allow it to update it's binary
- Delete superuser.apk from system/apps (use root explorer, es file explorer, terminal, etc...)
- Reboot
Since changing over to SuperSU, I haven't seen a single hang while an app is requesting su permissions.
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Same here. This new SU seems to fix the issue we had with the old one. The only problem is that damn settings tab. It freezes the app.
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i find this relevant to my interest any one else test
Xb0i said:
i find this relevant to my interest any one else test
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Follow xawen's directions and you'll be fine. It works like a charm.
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cant uninstall superuser from settings- applications. doesnt give the option
Xb0i said:
cant uninstall superuser from settings- applications. doesnt give the option
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Did you go Settings> Applications> Manage Applications and hit the app? If you dont see that option, go into Titanium Backup (an app you have no excuse not having) and uninstall it. Then go into Root explorer and follow the above directions to totally remove it. Then reboot. It may seem like it isnt totally gone cause you may see the icon somewhere, but it likely is gone and a reboot is needed in order to confirm.
yea got the tiBu. but i tried force stopping and clearing data and uninstall never popped up. thought about removing in TiBu buts thats not what it said in the instructions.
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yea got the tiBu. but i tried force stopping and clearing data and uninstall never popped up. thought about removing in TiBu buts thats not what it said in the instructions.
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Its what I did. Its a bit of a deviation but it got the job done and thats what matters, ya know?
wow pretty bizzare i cant find superuser in TiBu! whats goin on lol
Xb0i said:
wow pretty bizzare i cant find superuser in TiBu! whats goin on lol
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Did it disappear after you rebooted? If you have root explorer, go into system/app and see if SU is still gone. If so, you're in good shape.
to clarify
before i even started i backed up original superuser.apk to a folder on sdcard from root explorer, then
i downloaded supersu from market.
went to settings-app-manage apps- etc no choice to uninstall. force stopped- cleared data, still no uninstall option.
went into titanium backup to uninstall from there and superuser wasnt even listed in the apps! (ok weird)
only option left is to just delete from root explorer then continue continue to launch supersu, update binaries and reboot but im holding off.
Lowend was supersuper listed in titanium for u? y isnt it showing up in my list. i find it odd
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to clarify
before i even started i backed up original superuser.apk to a folder on sdcard from root explorer, then
i downloaded supersu from market.
went to settings-app-manage apps- etc no choice to uninstall. force stopped- cleared data, still no uninstall option.
went into titanium backup to uninstall from there and superuser wasnt even listed in the apps! (ok weird)
only option left is to just delete from root explorer then continue continue to launch supersu, update binaries and reboot but im holding off.
Lowend was supersuper listed in titanium for u? y isnt it showing up in my list. i find it odd
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I can't find superuser in TB either... it is kind of weird...
i believe u cant delete superuser from tibu cus u need superuser for root access so its like a paradox. i dunno y instructions were as someone showed cus it seems the only way to get this to work properly is delete from root explorer. but im gunna hold off till someone confirms this more legit
I don't understand why you're holding off...if SuperSU is active, go for the reboot and see if the old superuser app clears.
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id rather not have a headache if it messes something up.
this thread however gives some detail on supersu
looks like sum apps look for the presence of superuser.apk in data/app and possibly system/app.
a dummy file looks like it can resolve issues. ill switch when more testing is done on CM7dx2.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
Xb0i said:
id rather not have a headache if it messes something up.
this thread however gives some detail on supersu
looks like sum apps look for the presence of superuser.apk in data/app and possibly system/app.
a dummy file looks like it can resolve issues. ill switch when more testing is done on CM7dx2.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
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It's odd that you guys don't see the uninstall option for it... Do you see it in Market (err...Google Play, stupid name)? That's another way to get the uninstall done. If it doesn't show up there, you should be able to use root explorer and delete it from /data/apps and /system/apps.
When we installed CM7, the instructions had us update Superuser from market. That would have installed it in /data/apps, so it just needs to be yanked from there. Uninstall via market, tibu, settings>apps or manual through root explorer should all do the same thing. Then you can delete the built in one from system.
Also, if for some reason the whole process breaks down on you...there's a flashable version of the original Superuser that will probably get you going again. I haven't tried it on CM7 though...
jsgraphicart said:
Same here. This new SU seems to fix the issue we had with the old one. The only problem is that damn settings tab. It freezes the app.
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The most recent update (pushed yesterday) fixed this for me.
So, when I rooted I installed SuperSU and uninstalled Superuser.
Went through the steps to from the mod to get all apps into the multi view window. During the move odex services I got stuck in bootloop and had to re-odin the root image file.
Now that everything is set superuser is obviously the file back in charge of handling SU prompts from apps but for some reason it's not accepting/hearing them so anything I install that requires root is crashing.
Attempted clearing the SU data but it didn't help.
Is there anyway to fix this short of flashing back to stock then back to root?
Would mounting the system as writable, deleting SU and then re-flashing the root image fix the problem?
Basically I'm trying to avoid resetting my phone up to get this done.
Hitman3984 said:
So, when I rooted I installed SuperSU and uninstalled Superuser.
Went through the steps to from the mod to get all apps into the multi view window. During the move odex services I got stuck in bootloop and had to re-odin the root image file.
Now that everything is set superuser is obviously the file back in charge of handling SU prompts from apps but for some reason it's not accepting/hearing them so anything I install that requires root is crashing.
Attempted clearing the SU data but it didn't help.
Is there anyway to fix this short of flashing back to stock then back to root?
Would mounting the system as writable, deleting SU and then re-flashing the root image fix the problem?
Basically I'm trying to avoid resetting my phone up to get this done.
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I thought for sure that SuperSU is what was used in that file but I guess there must be a couple out there? The method I used never installed Superuser...?
EDIT: Nevermind I see that there are 2 different root methods and one uses SuperSU. Sorry
shojus said:
I thought for sure that SuperSU is what was used in that file but I guess there must be a couple out there? The method I used never installed Superuser...?
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I used the file from imnuts, which used superuser and not supersu.
I went ahead and deleted superuser, xbin/su and am reflashing. hope this fixes the problem.
which worked until the phone randomly rebooted and got stuck in loop..
and it was either sdpeed increase or lbe privacy guard causing it.
jellybean works better with supersu...try the file mrRobinson created...ie the original root image.
droidstyle said:
jellybean works better with supersu...try the file mrRobinson created...ie the original root image.
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Ive even removed superuser and installed supersu and doing the all apps mod was causing this issue.
I have a feeling it could be because I was renaming the services.odex file before replacing it.
Trying a direct overwrite was causing a non stop bootloop I couldn't get out of 4 seperate occassions.
droidstyle said:
jellybean works better with supersu...try the file mrRobinson created...ie the original root image.
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100% agree! I have not used Superuser for ages... Far superior imo...
shojus said:
100% agree! I have not used Superuser for ages... Far superior imo...
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after rooting I feel like the touch screen has lost some sensitivity. not sure if it's just me and the day or I'm just loco.
and what I mean specifically is when flipping through my home screens they like to snap back now and then.
Hi, when cwm SuperUser done a update to app and binaries the root not work in my device, can someone give me SuperUser cwm.apk v0.9 or some work please, i searched but I didnt found
fernan2001 said:
Hi, when cwm supersu done a update to app and binaries the root not work in my device, can someone give me supersu cwm.apk v0.9 or some work please, i searched but I didnt found
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http://download.chainfire.eu/204
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Very thanks for answer, but the link is a .zip and I want an apk or can I put it (.zip) with default recovery and not have problems?
Extract that zip, apk is in there
Tapped from my RazR
DumbleCore said:
Extract that zip, apk is in there
Tapped from my RazR
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thanks now I understand I dont knew that...but the apk is not that, I tested that app and not worked because I dont have root chainfire installed , the super user that I have is SuperUser of ClockworkMod, I need a previous version.
fernan2001 said:
thanks now I understand I dont knew that...but the apk is not that, I tested that app and not worked because I dont have root chainfire installed , the super user that I have is SuperUser of ClockworkMod, I need a previous version.
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Look man, superuser is ROOT. Either your phone is rooted or it is not. A rooted phone can run apps that require it like ClockworkMod ROM Manager, Titanium Backup, Greenify, Wireless Tether for Root Users, File managers like Root Explorer or ES File Manager if you want to be able to access the system areas of the phone. So far as I know, there is no "SuperUser of ClockworkMod". If your phone is rooted (You will see superuser or "Super SU" in your app drawer. Here is a free app from the playstore that will tell you if your phone is rooted or not.
Root Checker
Install it and use it to see if your phone is still rooted or if you lost root somehow. If you still have root, then when CWM starts, it will ask for root privileges and the first time it asks, you will be prompted to grant it, once, for a certain time period, or forever. For stuff like CWM, root file managers, and Titanium Backup, you always grant root forever and you will not be asked again until the app updates and requires you to okay granting root privileged or not, then you grand forever and leave it alone.
If you find out you do not have root or lost your root, then you have to root the phone and the procedure is different for different devices, versions, and ROMS. For that kind of help, you have to search for rooting <your particular device and android version number>
Ohmster said:
Look man, superuser is ROOT. Either your phone is rooted or it is not. A rooted phone can run apps that require it like ClockworkMod ROM Manager, Titanium Backup, Greenify, Wireless Tether for Root Users, File managers like Root Explorer or ES File Manager if you want to be able to access the system areas of the phone. So far as I know, there is no "SuperUser of ClockworkMod". If your phone is rooted (You will see superuser or "Super SU" in your app drawer. Here is a free app from the playstore that will tell you if your phone is rooted or not.
Install it and use it to see if your phone is still rooted or if you lost root somehow. If you still have root, then when CWM starts, it will ask for root privileges and the first time it asks, you will be prompted to grant it, once, for a certain time period, or forever. For stuff like CWM, root file managers, and Titanium Backup, you always grant root forever and you will not be asked again until the app updates and requires you to okay granting root privileged or not, then you grand forever and leave it alone.
If you find out you do not have root or lost your root, then you have to root the phone and the procedure is different for different devices, versions, and ROMS. For that kind of help, you have to search for rooting <your particular device and android version number>
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Thanks for answer, well I thinked that too, because my phone cant use root privileges if the aplication superuser isnt installed, however with te superuser aplication my phone have root privileges but with the previous version, with actual version my phond dont have root, even the people in google play say the same "with the new version my phone losed root" and similars comments...
maybe the root version (clockWorkMod) work in this way and need the app for work.
maybe this one??? http://d-h.st/l91
DumbleCore said:
maybe this one???
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Thanks DumbleCore! I have root again
fernan2001 said:
Thanks DumbleCore! I have root again
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Solved it? No problem
I have already given root access to the app Clean Master. Under the 'Autostart Manager' page, I tried to remove apps that autostart by itself. However, the app pop out a message indicating 'Failed to Grant Root' and reminded me to grant root access.
I went back to the superuser app, it was indicated that root access has been granted.
Any way to solve this problem?
I have been having this same issue on rooted stock gs4. It's temperamental when it comes to root I've noticed. One day I was able to turn it app off of auto start and when I installed a new app it wouldn't let me do it and su says I'm granted
I'm experiencing the same issues. Auto Start Manager is the only feature that has this issue.
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yoongkc said:
I have already given root access to the app Clean Master. Under the 'Autostart Manager' page, I tried to remove apps that autostart by itself. However, the app pop out a message indicating 'Failed to Grant Root' and reminded me to grant root access.
I went back to the superuser app, it was indicated that root access has been granted.
Any way to solve this problem?
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I always face this issue also, what I do as a temporary fix is, go to the SuperSU app, then "Forget" Clean Master, open Clean Master and try to disable an app from Auto starting, grant root and the app will be disabled I hope it works for you too
I am glad I am not the only one having this issue. I recently updated an app via the play store and clean master told me it was auto starting. I tried to block it, but it keeps telling me root access failed and to grant it. Well I've granted it root 18 times now and it still says root failed. I have tried everything to get it to work...clear logs, tell superSU to forget clean master, give it global default, etc. Nothing seems to work and it's pissing me off.
Unfortunately this does not work for me.
I have granted root access according to SuperSU Pro however when trying to stop autostarting apps in Clean Master it reminds me to allow access.
I even get a popup massage from SU stating that the app got granted root access.
Whats happening here? Does anyone have a work around?
Deleting Cleanmaster in SuperSU doesnt help. It is always the same unfortunately.
Best Regards
J
I too also have problems with the autostart function in Clean Master on my Optimus Zone II
First of all, if you've root then you shouldn't use clean master. That's so naive.
About the permissions. Even after root your system partition stays in read only mode. I'm guessing this okay. You should check that out first.
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Vtrendzzy said:
First of all, if you've root then you shouldn't use clean master. That's so naive.
About the permissions. Even after root your system partition stays in read only mode. I'm guessing this okay. You should check that out first.
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Ok, (I know Im gunna reget this), but why?, in your option, should Clean Master NOT be used, since it need so many "root" functions in order to work? Ive used it for years. Rooted or no, (mostly rooted), and why do all the "autostart" apks, (ROM Toolbox, Autostarts, Autostart Manager,etc) work just fine. I've tryied it with r-w on system on, sooooo....next...?
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Ok, (I know Im gunna reget this), but why?, in your option, should Clean Master NOT be used, since it need so many "root" functions in order to work? Ive used it for years. Rooted or no, (mostly rooted), and why do all the "autostart" apks, (ROM Toolbox, Autostarts, Autostart Manager,etc) work just fine. I've tryied it with r-w on system on, sooooo....next...?
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I can't argue over this. Best options for you 1. Root Cleaner (high priority) 2. SD Maid Pro (medium priority)
See the difference yourself.
fix?
Has anyone figured out what the issue is here? It worked just fine on cm12 but stock Lilli nope. Root issues for sure it must have something to do with system partition. Has anyone fixed this issue?
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Has anyone figured out what the issue is here? It worked just fine on cm12 but stock Lilli nope. Root issues for sure it must have something to do with system partition. Has anyone fixed this issue?
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Has anyone figured out what the issue is here?²
hey..the main culprit is supersu app
yoongkc said:
I have already given root access to the app Clean Master. Under the 'Autostart Manager' page, I tried to remove apps that autostart by itself. However, the app pop out a message indicating 'Failed to Grant Root' and reminded me to grant root access.
I went back to the superuser app, it was indicated that root access has been granted.
Any way to solve this problem?
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Clean master is not working on 2.46(I mean the autostart manager) I noticed this yesterday..i flashed a new Rom first it was having Supersu 2.46 version in which CM was not working but after flashing Supersu 2.49 CM is working plus in Google store supersu 2.46 beta is there which won't work...my clean master started working again normally like before after installing SuperSU 2.49...so try flashing or installing supersu 2.49
Link for supersu zip (Flashable zip)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/2014-09-02-supersu-v2-05-t2868133
Clean master root access
wow. cool...,ill try that,
thanx
it's supersu problem
StoneyJSG said:
I am glad I am not the only one having this issue. I recently updated an app via the play store and clean master told me it was auto starting. I tried to block it, but it keeps telling me root access failed and to grant it. Well I've granted it root 18 times now and it still says root failed. I have tried everything to get it to work...clear logs, tell superSU to forget clean master, give it global default, etc. Nothing seems to work and it's pissing me off.
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Just go thru my above post..it will definitely work..so give it a try... flashing new supersu 2.49 resolved the problem for me.?
Yep its working again. I tried 2.48 cuz somebody said it worked for them, but i had no luck there. 2.49 did the trick, thx for letting us know in the thread.
tycoon78[stoner] said:
Clean master is not working on 2.46(I mean the autostart manager) I noticed this yesterday..i flashed a new Rom first it was having Supersu 2.46 version in which CM was not working but after flashing Supersu 2.49 CM is working plus in Google store supersu 2.46 beta is there which won't work...my clean master started working again normally like before after installing SuperSU 2.49...so try flashing or installing supersu 2.49
Link for supersu zip (Flashable zip)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/2014-09-02-supersu-v2-05-t2868133
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Its working for me too.
Thanks tycoon78 for the tip
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The new Super SuperUser Apk 2.49 from chainfire, did not work for my CleanMaster blocking apks from autostarting on my little optimus 2....:crying: any other suggestions?
Ahhh! Thank you so much tycoon! It works for me after updating super user!
QUOTE=Alison.Souza;60674697]Its working for me too.
Thanks tycoon78 for the tip [/QUOTE]
DerDoktorEsq said:
The new Super SuperUser Apk 2.49 from chainfire, did not work for my CleanMaster blocking apks from autostarting on my little optimus 2....:crying: any other suggestions?
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I just rooted my s6 edge and was having the same issue with 2.46. Luckily when I updated to 2.49, I was unable to block the autostartup apps.