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hi guys.
i tried to update my LG Optimus one (p500) with pc suite iv and the lg tool but both say im up to date. im on firmware 10a...
now i want to go to 2.2.2 and it seems i cant via that method. i read the other methods by manully upgrading and down grading firmware. im on MTN network here and i heard that in order to update my firmware, my network needs to allow it. ok so in africa everything moves at a very slow speed... riding a elephant to work is very slow pace .
so what i want to know is if i do this manual firmware update will it cause me problems? and is the roms and kernels region based... in other words will it effect my simcard and network ect.?
im rooted with Z4root and i got thunberg recovery + back up.
on the backup... i cant do back up of the sd-ext ... i presume its because i have not done a partition of my sdcard... is this correct... all others are backed up.
i also cant seem to get onto my sdcard via this recovery. it picks up my device but not my sd card. so if something goes wrong i can get onto my sdcard via recovery... SCREWED
i got windows xp service pack 3 and mac probook. i have the lg mobile drivers installed on the xp system.
i hope that im clear on what i need. id really be great full if someone could help me..
anyone?
Firefly137 said:
hi guys.
i tried to update my LG Optimus one (p500) with pc suite iv and the lg tool but both say im up to date. im on firmware 10a...
now i want to go to 2.2.2 and it seems i cant via that method. i read the other methods by manully upgrading and down grading firmware. im on MTN network here and i heard that in order to update my firmware, my network needs to allow it. ok so in africa everything moves at a very slow speed... riding a elephant to work is very slow pace .
so what i want to know is if i do this manual firmware update will it cause me problems? and is the roms and kernels region based... in other words will it effect my simcard and network ect.?
im rooted with Z4root and i got thunberg recovery + back up.
on the backup... i cant do back up of the sd-ext ... i presume its because i have not done a partition of my sdcard... is this correct... all others are backed up.
i also cant seem to get onto my sdcard via this recovery. it picks up my device but not my sd card. so if something goes wrong i can get onto my sdcard via recovery... SCREWED
i got windows xp service pack 3 and mac probook. i have the lg mobile drivers installed on the xp system.
i hope that im clear on what i need. id really be great full if someone could help me..
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Dear i am really sorry to say that most of the things i am not able to understand. What i understood is
1) you want to change Rom (upgrade or downgrade).
2) Your SD card is not detecting in recovery.
What are the queries you have
3) GSM will work or not as you have heard it should be country specific.
Ok now here are the answer.
1) For downgrading the ROM, you can downgrade and upgrade any official ROM via KDZ updater. Here is the link. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883314
2) It may be something went wrong. Just restart your phone and have factory reset it may be solve your problem.
3) Yes you have heard it right. But that is only for 2.3.3. In case of 2.2 we have globe release so you can downgrade it without having any GSM issue.
From next time be precise so that people can understand what is the exact problem you are facing. If you have any query you can ask. Members will defiantly help you out.
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Dear i am really sorry to say that most of the things i am not able to understand. What i understood is
1) you want to change Rom (upgrade or downgrade).
2) Your SD card is not detecting in recovery.
What are the queries you have
3) GSM will work or not as you have heard it should be country specific.
Ok now here are the answer.
1) For downgrading the ROM, you can downgrade and upgrade any official ROM via KDZ updater. Here is the link. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883314
2) It may be something went wrong. Just restart your phone and have factory reset it may be solve your problem.
3) Yes you have heard it right. But that is only for 2.3.3. In case of 2.2 we have globe release so you can downgrade it without having any GSM issue.
From next time be precise so that people can understand what is the exact problem you are facing. If you have any query you can ask. Members will defiantly help you out.
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thank you for your reply.
sorry for not being clear.
let me try again:
ok so this is my phone at the moment...
p500 stock firmware 10a
rooted with Z4root
my recovery: recovery-RA-thunderg-2.2.1-GNM
i have not partitioned my SDcard
using super manager and file expert as my explorer
have titanium backup and backed everything up.
what did i do so far:
i deleted all the useless app that come stock.
what do i want to do:
1: i want to try different roms and kernels
2: i want to make sure that my nandbackup is done correctly
3: i want to know if all the roms and kernels will work in my region (south africa) even though my service provider (MTN) has not allowed any updates. so can i install a 2.2.2 version rom and will still be able to use is in my country
my Q? :
1: do i need to update my firmware to 2.2.2 if the kernel or rom is based on that firmware 2.2.2( or what ever version). or does the roms come with that firmware and if i install that rom wil my firmware be at what ever version the rom is?
2: i backed up everything i could. but when i tried to backup my sd-ext it says "something went wrong, check log". so is this because i did not partition my SDcard yet?
on the SDcard not picking up... ONLY!!! when I'm in my recovery (recovery-RA-thunderg-2.2.1-GNM), when i select usb mode in my recovery then it enables it but my pc does not pick it up as mass storage, so i cant copy over any files while in recovery mode. what must i do?
3:can i install any roms even if MTN has not enabled firmware 2.2.2
sorry for the long post
hope im more clear now
1.no you dont have to upgrade or downgrade...just flash the rom of your choice..
2.flash a new recovery and try...
3.you can use any rom anywhere .....what has mtn got to do with the phones firmware...is yours a cdma phone??
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Firefly137 said:
thank you for your reply.
sorry for not being clear.
let me try again:
ok so this is my phone at the moment...
p500 stock firmware 10a
rooted with Z4root
my recovery: recovery-RA-thunderg-2.2.1-GNM
i have not partitioned my SDcard
using super manager and file expert as my explorer
have titanium backup and backed everything up.
what did i do so far:
i deleted all the useless app that come stock.
what do i want to do:
1: i want to try different roms and kernels
2: i want to make sure that my nandbackup is done correctly
3: i want to know if all the roms and kernels will work in my region (south africa) even though my service provider (MTN) has not allowed any updates. so can i install a 2.2.2 version rom and will still be able to use is in my country
my Q? :
1: do i need to update my firmware to 2.2.2 if the kernel or rom is based on that firmware 2.2.2( or what ever version). or does the roms come with that firmware and if i install that rom wil my firmware be at what ever version the rom is?
2: i backed up everything i could. but when i tried to backup my sd-ext it says "something went wrong, check log". so is this because i did not partition my SDcard yet?
on the SDcard not picking up... ONLY!!! when I'm in my recovery (recovery-RA-thunderg-2.2.1-GNM), when i select usb mode in my recovery then it enables it but my pc does not pick it up as mass storage, so i cant copy over any files while in recovery mode. what must i do?
3:can i install any roms even if MTN has not enabled firmware 2.2.2
sorry for the long post
hope im more clear now
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Good dear this time you are almost on trac.
1)first of all you can flash Mik 2.3.4 rom with Franco kernel v18 find it on rom dev section.
2) it doesn't matter most. You can have contact backup on gmail server and backup your sms from any sms backup apps.
3) mike and andy from will work.try those.
1) every rom comes with kernel (firmware). You can simply flash rom and you done. Like if you are flashing Mik rom just flash zip file from recovery and you are ready to roll
2. You can ship this part.
3. this is bit controversial. official rom will work but may be without GSM. But you can flash mike and andy rom. It will work 100%..
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sajjan said:
1.no you dont have to upgrade or downgrade...just flash the rom of your choice..
2.flash a new recovery and try...
3.you can use any rom anywhere .....what has mtn got to do with the phones firmware...is yours a cdma phone??
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1. thank you
2. must i go clockworks?
3. MTN is gsm i think... i was just wondering is it is going to be a issue since MTN need to allow update if i wanted to update my phone through pc suite or lg tool.
sweetbinodray said:
Good dear this time you are almost on trac.
1)first of all you can flash Mik 2.3.4 rom with Franco kernel v18 find it on rom dev section.
2) it doesn't matter most. You can have contact backup on gmail server and backup your sms from any sms backup apps.
3) mike and andy from will work.try those.
1) every rom comes with kernel (firmware). You can simply flash rom and you done. Like if you are flashing Mik rom just flash zip file from recovery and you are ready to roll
2. You can ship this part.
3. this is bit controversial. official rom will work but may be without GSM. But you can flash mike and andy rom. It will work 100%..
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1) ill try that rom
2) everyone seems to say back up 1st.. so i did but as i say i cant back up sd-ext... so is this just if i have partitioned?
and how can i fix the fact that i cant get onto my SDcard when in recovery... must i use clock works instead?
are you saying i must not back up?
hehehe
Look, your operator has better things to do than implement FW version checking. GSM is a standard stuff, either the phone talks to BTS or does not.
try clockwork....your 3rd question is answered above
Hey guys, I have just one quick question.
I can manage unlocking the bootloader and rooting my device but I'm afraid that by doing so, everything on my phone will go back to stock, kinda like doing a factory reset. I have spent literally a week setting up my homescreens and downloading all the apps that I needed so having my phone go back to stock would be highly inconvenient.
Can anyone who has rooted their amaze confirm this? Did unlocking and rooting your device made it go back to stock and you had to set up everything again?
Once you unlock your bootloader your device doe's a factory reset , after that you won't need to factory reset unless u flash a ROM & there are 4 ROMS to choose from now .
Thank you for your answer.
Greatly appreciate it.
No problem , if you need anymore help just hit me up .
Revolution said:
Once you unlock your bootloader your device doe's a factory reset , after that you won't need to factory reset unless u flash a ROM & there are 4 ROMS to choose from now .
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Great reply Rev.
For the OP, use MyBackup Free to backup your apps and settings.
The settings is easy to restore but until you have root... the apps is kind of a pain. But it's easier than going through Market.
I do not have a micro sd card, do i need one when rooting or unlocking my droid?
Felinos11 said:
I do not have a micro sd card, do i need one when rooting or unlocking my droid?
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You do because the current recovery does not mount allow flashing from the internal sdcard.
hey every1 call me hatcher, soo many pages of info didnt know where to start also, most of you will think im an idiot probably asking simple questions! here goes:
bought my sgs2 and love it to death only had it a week and its on orange , i went ahead and rooted my phone using odin 3 and s2 root. i decided to install an original secure kernel again. all seems good, but i didnt know what kernal was is the best? and is it the whole firmware thing? my current android version is 2.3.4 is this the newest and best because i saw something on the web about ics 4 or something. went onto kies and no update was found so maybe that is the latest official, but then i was confused about it saying u have to root again after ics. so yea if anyone could give me a heads up it will be great.
basically i want my phone rooted but running the latest OFFICIAL version with updates available thanks.
did download the newest kernel on this site but phone didnt boot so reverted and thinking there is more to this, dont want to break my phone!! thanks
also another really random question if any1 can answer does powervr plugin meant to take soo long for loading on shadow guardian for example thanks very much, soory for bad punctuation and grammer my english is not perfect yet
just realised that kernel 4.03 i downloaded is 8 mb and another ics 4.03 was 300 mb! really getting confused about os, firmware kernel etc and dont want to miss anything!
hatchermagic said:
hey every1 call me hatcher, soo many pages of info didnt know where to start also, most of you will think im an idiot probably asking simple questions! here goes:
bought my sgs2 and love it to death only had it a week and its on orange , i went ahead and rooted my phone using odin 3 and s2 root. i decided to install an original secure kernel again. all seems good, but i didnt know what kernal was is the best? and is it the whole firmware thing? my current android version is 2.3.4 is this the newest and best because i saw something on the web about ics 4 or something. went onto kies and no update was found so maybe that is the latest official, but then i was confused about it saying u have to root again after ics. so yea if anyone could give me a heads up it will be great.
basically i want my phone rooted but running the latest OFFICIAL version with updates available thanks.
did download the newest kernel on this site but phone didnt boot so reverted and thinking there is more to this, dont want to break my phone!! thanks
also another really random question if any1 can answer does powervr plugin meant to take soo long for loading on shadow guardian for example thanks very much, soory for bad punctuation and grammer my english is not perfect yet
just realised that kernel 4.03 i downloaded is 8 mb and another ics 4.03 was 300 mb! really getting confused about os, firmware kernel etc and dont want to miss anything!
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Your latest firmware should be ICS 4.0.3, (you can flash ICS 4.0.4 official/custom rom!) not gingerbread 2.3.4! You can download (after registering!) your "OFFICIAL" firmware/rom from here: http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/?page=3&t=1&o=1&m=GT-I9100&r=1#regiona Just choose your region/network/firmware, & then flash with odin 3 again! This will unroot you because you'll be flashing original stock firmware, so you will have to root again with your rooting method of choice! I personally prefer to root using this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501719 to just keep the latest OFFICIAL stock rom on my device but still have root! Also, using this method wont give you the yellow triangle on each reboot because you're not flashing a kernel to root your device! If you ever need to put your phone in for repair under warranty & your flash counter in download mode doesn't say "No" (0), then they'll possibly charge you for it, as you've flashed your device ! Use this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22463153#post22463153 to reset it (ONLY FOR USE ON ICS ROMS!!), but make "SURE" the app gives the "EXACT" same count that it says in download mode, or you could potentially HARD BRICK your expensive toy! The warnings are there to be read, good luck!
thamkyou for your swift and informative reply.
so did kies not update when u have rooted your device?
if so i take it you have to manually flash to the newest firmware everytime a new release comes out?
is this the only thing i need to worry about with updating the firmware no other donloads or auto updates im missing, because like i said i saw a firmware update that was 300mb and i cldnt find anywhere online official kernely/firmware builds, and it seems that a simple flash of 8mb or so updates everything? i saw people talking about connecting via kies to update firmware and it was a big 300 meg file!
thanks for your links also mate.
hatchermagic said:
thamkyou for your swift and informative reply.
so did kies not update when u have rooted your device?
if so i take it you have to manually flash to the newest firmware everytime a new release comes out?
is this the only thing i need to worry about with updating the firmware no other donloads or auto updates im missing, because like i said i saw a firmware update that was 300mb and i cldnt find anywhere online official kernely/firmware builds, and it seems that a simple flash of 8mb or so updates everything? i saw people talking about connecting via kies to update firmware and it was a big 300 meg file!
thanks for your links also mate.
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Whenever you root, kies gives you the "wrong firmware to update" error! No worries though, because YES, you can always flash the latest firmware or custom roms manually! This is usually done through Odin 3 or CWM (clockworkmod recovery!) If done through Odin 3, your flash counter in download mode escalates/goes up, & the only way you can reset it for warranty purposes is using Triangle Away (link in my previous post!) which can be DANGEROUS!! Or if you flash roms through CWM then your counter's not affected also! The majority of people however, prefer to use Mobile Odin on the Galaxy Sll, as flashing with this app also does not give you the boot up triangle warning, or affect your download mode counter! Here's the link to Chainfires lates free version here on XDA: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347899 Or if you appreciate the work the devs (for this particular app, Chainfire!) do for us in this forum, you can obtain the "PRO" (paid/donate!) version here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.mobileodin.pro&hl=en
thanks for the reply again crock daddy! mobile odin sounds awesome,
i see i was getting confused because whenever i have ran kies, it has never asked/said anything about updating firmware, guess ive installed an older firmware version than what my phone came with oops lol. i guess im all good to go, cant believe what this handset can do! and yes i will be donating to the clever gits, chainfire is insane, thanks to that i have shadowguardian dead space and backstab working
thanks for your time again peace out.
right flashed to ics, love it, u sir are a legend....
BUT i tried rooting and it said my kernel was secure thus no temp root access. so closed s2 root down. (would this of done any damage or corrupted data btw?)
tried the cwm zip in sd card method, but cldnt find su zip, also read that it doesnt give full root access or sumin. (again would going into clockwork recovery have done any damage because i didnt complete the rooting process-cldnt find su file so just shut it down)
and im guessing there are no insecure kernels for ics yet?
sorry to be so pedantic and worrying about silly things lol.
also have had a couple of jitters and games completley freezing since ics is this common and or should i reinstall games?
this is the kernel version im using for an orange sgs2 19100p
I9100PBVLP6
just doule checking this is the most up to date and stable build.. cheers
hatchermagic said:
right flashed to ics, love it, u sir are a legend....
BUT i tried rooting and it said my kernel was secure thus no temp root access. so closed s2 root down. (would this of done any damage or corrupted data btw?)
tried the cwm zip in sd card method, but cldnt find su zip, also read that it doesnt give full root access or sumin. (again would going into clockwork recovery have done any damage because i didnt complete the rooting process-cldnt find su file so just shut it down)
and im guessing there are no insecure kernels for ics yet?
sorry to be so pedantic and worrying about silly things lol.
also have had a couple of jitters and games completley freezing since ics is this common and or should i reinstall games?
this is the kernel version im using for an orange sgs2 19100p
I9100PBVLP6
just doule checking this is the most up to date and stable build.. cheers
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When you root using the cwm & superuser.zip you won't see the su.zip in recovery mode! You have to put an sd-card in your device (external sd-card!) & put su.zip on that rather than your internal sd-card! that way recovery sees it! & YES you do gain full root! (read the whole thread! : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501719)
If Superuser shows up in your app's, then that's the indication you need to tell you that you have root!
Either this method, CF root method or any other method will allow you to install custom ROMS, but there is an advantage and a disadvantage for both.
:;This method: Doesn't affect custom rom counter or triangle, but CWM recovery is not permanent. (but once you flash a custom ROM that has a different kernel with CWM recovery included then your rom counter will still be unaffected and whatever CWM recovery is included in the custom ROM will become your new permanent recovery)
You can still use CWM recovery to flash stuff with this method, by using clockworkmod (Rom manager!) & booting straight into CWM recovery & doing everything you need to do from there!
This method keeps the stock recovery, so that if you have to send your phone in for a repair, the repairer doesen't see that you have a custom recovery (CWM recovery!) which tells them you have rooted your device & void your warrenty!
:-CF-Root Method: Flashing the CF-root kernel (or ANY insecure kernel!) with Odin will increase your custom ROM counter, which can be cleared with TriangleAway.apk (only on ICS). But Chainfire has warned that it is dangerous and can permanently brick the device (i've used it on XWLP7 ICS 4.0.3 and it works perfect.)
I've used both methods, but I found this method easier and generally safer.
As for some of your games freezing on ICS, try going to settings/developer options & try checking "Force GPU rendering" to see if that makes a difference!
The latest official Samsung firmware for Orange here in the UK is: I9100PBVLP6 (ICS 4.0.3!) so you do have the correct one, but I don't think there's an insecure ICS kernel available for that version as of yet!
Hi, i'm on 4.1.2 and rooted using link2sd and foldermount so I can store apps on the external sd card. If I upgrade to 4.2.2 do I need to unroot first and then root again after flashing the new firmware?
Also i'm assuming i'm going to lose all my game saves etc as I will lose my link2sd and foldermount setups?
My phone is unlocked from the 3 network but still has the 3 network logo on boot up and so I thought if i'm going to have to start afresh I might as well get the stock unbranded S3 rom and get rid of the 3 network branding. I used Galaxsim unlock to unlock the network so i'm assuming I won't lose my network unlock by doing any of the above?
Thanks in advance for any help given.
Sp0oner said:
Hi, i'm on 4.1.2 and rooted using link2sd and foldermount so I can store apps on the external sd card. If I upgrade to 4.2.2 do I need to unroot first and then root again after flashing the new firmware?
Also i'm assuming i'm going to lose all my game saves etc as I will lose my link2sd and foldermount setups?
My phone is unlocked from the 3 network but still has the 3 network logo on boot up and so I thought if i'm going to have to start afresh I might as well get the stock unbranded S3 rom and get rid of the 3 network branding. I used Galaxsim unlock to unlock the network so i'm assuming I won't lose my network unlock by doing any of the above?
Thanks in advance for any help given.
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Just flash any rooted 4.2.2 ROM via custom recovery. You should take a titanium backup and a nandroid backup first. If it flashes without a wipe, you've lost nothing. If you do have to wipe, you can restore using Titanium. The Nandroid is a full system restore incase nothing works.
rootSU said:
Just flash any rooted 4.2.2 ROM via custom recovery. You should take a titanium backup and a nandroid backup first. If it flashes without a wipe, you've lost nothing. If you do have to wipe, you can restore using Titanium. The Nandroid is a full system restore incase nothing works.
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Thanks. As you can tell i'm not up to speed on android rooting as i'm an ex iphone devotee that was good with jailbreaking but i'm new to android rooting really.
If I take an already rooted rom that surely still overwrites my current data as a rom replaces what is already there doesn't it? Can titanium and nandroid backup to pc via usb cable as my 32gb sd card won't have enough room to backup onto as it's heavily used for foldermount and link2sd.
If I wanted a pre rooted 4.2.2 stock rom for the I9300 is that something I can find on this forum to safely download and try? And if for any reasom i'm not happy with it the nandroid backup will restore the phone back to my original rom and setup as if I hadn't changed roms?
Rom and data are different. Please read the link in my signature "read before reading". It should contain everything you need to know (i'm not just saying this because I wrote it, but its really essential).
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rootSU said:
Rom and data are different. Please read the link in my signature "read before reading". It should contain everything you need to know (i'm not just saying this because I wrote it, but its really essential).
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Thank you, again. I have read all that this morning and I am in no rush to change anything as one thing i've learnt from jailbreaking when I first got into it was rushing = ending up in a big mess and panicking you've bricked your device.
I rooted my S3 earlier this year and so I expect I still have all the files and the url of the guide I followed so I can check exactly what it was I did. My flash counter won't reset to zero which really bugged me and again another lesson learnt from doing something without fully checking the consequences.
I'm an IT engineer but all windows based so when it comes to android/linux what I think would be logical pretty much seems to go out the window!
Its always good to hold off and understand before moving forward. Read the thread through a few times.
I'm also a wintel IT engineer but I wanted to get into android development so I've been using Linux at home as my daily driver for 2 years.
If there's ever anything in that thread you want me to put into windows analogies or similes,,just ask in that thread. It will help me expand the thread also
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rootSU said:
Its always good to hold off and understand before moving forward. Read the thread through a few times.
I'm also a wintel IT engineer but I wanted to get into android development so I've been using Linux at home as my daily driver for 2 years.
If there's ever anything in that thread you want me to put into windows analogies or similes,,just ask in that thread. It will help me expand the thread also
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Thanks again. I've been having a play about today and firstly got a titanium backup done for everything and then copied to my laptop. Then got the online version of nandroid backup so no reboot required to take the backup and did a full one of those and copied to my laptop too.
I've checked what root process I followed and it was one posted on the s3 forums using GalaxyS3root which uses a file via odin called CF-Root-SGS3-v6.1.tar. I won't post the link in case it breaks any rules etc. After reading your other post as advised I get the impression i'm not going to be able to reset my flash counter to zero. I have tried triangle away but it doesn't succeed.
As Android 4.3 is out/due out i'm now thinking pointless moving to 4.2.2 and I should wait and got straight to 4.3. Now what I wanted to ask was the following...
If I took titanium backup and then undid all my link2sd and foldermount links and then unrooted would I be able to flash the stock 4.3 rom when available, root it then reset up link2sd and foldermount and restore the titanium backup and have all my apps back to how they were?
I want to get an unmodified samsung rom that is unbranded so I can get rid of my 3 network branding I currently have on boot up. I also want to know if it is possible in anyway to reset the flash counter so I could in theory if unrooted get ota updates.
First question...
If you wipe and manually set up link2sd - when you then restore via titanium everything should be as it was.
You can reset the counter before unrooting. Theres a return-to-stock guide stuck in the "sticky roll-up thread" that covers it. The counter goes up to 1 on boot so the trick is to prevent the boot...
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rootSU said:
First question...
If you wipe and manually set up link2sd - when you then restore via titanium everything should be as it was.
You can reset the counter before unrooting. Theres a return-to-stock guide stuck in the "sticky roll-up thread" that covers it. The counter goes up to 1 on boot so the trick is to prevent the boot...
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Thanks, so the counter can't be cleared permanently for warranty purposes as a reboot will just put it back to 1. So as I have a custom recovery on the phone that went on with the root will that cause issues if I tried to update via official updates?
It can be prevented with an ics bootloader.
Imho its best to stay away from official updates when rooted
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It can be prevented with an ics bootloader.
Imho its best to stay away from official updates when rooted
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Thanks. An ics bootloader however will just further invalidate the warranty and also prevent stock updates? What I had been getting at with wanting to do stock updates was to unroot first. However now i've got the custom recovery there that in itself makes stock updates an unwise move even with rooting removed?
So with my current setup what is the best method to go to 4.2.2 without using a custom rom?
They check warranty by looking at the information provided in the bootloader. Your warranty is either void or not void. There is no such thing as further invalidation. Its 0 or 1. There is no 2.
There is no "best way" without using a "custom rom". If you want to flash a stock rom, do it. Theres only one way.
By the way, 4.2.2 hasn't been officially released, so you wont be getting stock updates. You'll have to manually keep flashing release via odin until you get one that is official. Then if your csc is wrong, you have to change it (which requires factory reset) and then you will still only get updates over USB if you're rooted.
Don't get me wrong, but that sounds ridiculous to me. I just don't understand any rooted user wanting to do that
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rootSU said:
They check warranty by looking at the information provided in the bootloader. Your warranty is either void or not void. There is no such thing as further invalidation. Its 0 or 1. There is no 2.
There is no "best way" without using a "custom rom". If you want to flash a stock rom, do it. Theres only one way.
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By the way, 4.2.2 hasn't been officially released
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Thanks for the quick reply. I've just read through the link on your thread for returning to stock and unless i've misread it you can actually return to stock even if you have installed a custom recovery/used the auto cf root method of rooting? That's step 16?
Sorry on the invalidating warranty thing, what I meant was that if you use the ics bootloader you fix the triangleaway issue but you are then left with the ics bootloader so your warranty is still invalid.
My mistake on 4.2.2, what's the latest official version as if I plug into kies it tells me there is an update available which i'd wrongly assumed was 4.2.2?
4.1.2 is the latest.
They don't check bootloader version for warranty. They only check download mode.
You can return to stock so long as phone fully boots and usb works. If phone only partially boots, you can't return to stock or reset counter. This is why IMHO its better to have an ics bootloader where counter is always in the reset state
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rootSU said:
You can return to stock so long as phone fully boots and usb works. If phone only partially boots, you can't return to stock or reset counter. This is why IMHO its better to have an ics bootloader where counter is always in the reset state
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OK this has totally lost me now, I need to do some more reading! Also i'm on 4.1.2 yet if I plug into Kies ittells me there is an update available.
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OK this has totally lost me now, I need to do some more reading! Also i'm on 4.1.2 yet if I plug into Kies ittells me there is an update available.
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An update won't necessarily update the android version. It will update the Samsung build version. Samsung have probably close to 100 updates on 4.1.2 (globally).
Android is just the base OS. It has Samsung GUI on top of that (and frameworks to support Samsung proprietary features). So Samsung take the android code for 4.1.2 and add all their stuff to it. But they will improve on that over a number of builds. Fixing bugs, addressing performance issues etc.
However, Samsung tend to release new features in line with android base updates too. so if Samsung are working on 4.1.2 and decide, "hey this feature would be cool", they would usually wait for the next android version to release it.
Hope that makes sense
Did that address your confusion?
Or is your confusion about returning to stock?
You return to stock by flashing a full ROM (which includes a bootloader, Android ROM, Recovery, baseband etc) over USB connection to a computer. The phone is put into download mode and flashed. if your USB is faulty, this wont work (obviously).
Before returning to stock, you need to ensure your download mode doesnt show how many times you flashed custom things. You can reset it then flash stock and warranty is fine. However, to reset it, android needs to boot, so if android doesnt boot and counter says more than "0", you've lost warranty, With ICS bootloader, you reset it once and it always says "0", so you are protected if phone doesnt boot.
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An update won't necessarily update the android version. It will update the Samsung build version. Samsung have probably close to 100 updates on 4.1.2 (globally).
Android is just the base OS. It has Samsung GUI on top of that (and frameworks to support Samsung proprietary features). So Samsung take the android code for 4.1.2 and add all their stuff to it. But they will improve on that over a number of builds. Fixing bugs, addressing performance issues etc.
However, Samsung tend to release new features in line with android base updates too. so if Samsung are working on 4.1.2 and decide, "hey this feature would be cool", they would usually wait for the next android version to release it.
Hope that makes sense
Did that address your confusion?
Or is your confusion about returning to stock?
You return to stock by flashing a full ROM (which includes a bootloader, Android ROM, Recovery, baseband etc) over USB connection to a computer. The phone is put into download mode and flashed. if your USB is faulty, this wont work (obviously).
Before returning to stock, you need to ensure your download mode doesnt show how many times you flashed custom things. You can reset it then flash stock and warranty is fine. However, to reset it, android needs to boot, so if android doesnt boot and counter says more than "0", you've lost warranty, With ICS bootloader, you reset it once and it always says "0", so you are protected if phone doesnt boot.
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Thanks for both explanations :good: It was the ics bootloader I was really confused about. I'm in two minds as to change anything, the techy part of me says play with it and learn and understand more about what you've explained but the other side says i've got everything setup perfectly at the moment now I have link2sd and foldermount working and not to risk ruining that setup. I think the only thing i'd notice from 4.2.2 is the access camera from the lock screen feature.
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Thanks for both explanations :good: It was the ics bootloader I was really confused about. I'm in two minds as to change anything, the techy part of me says play with it and learn and understand more about what you've explained but the other side says i've got everything setup perfectly at the moment now I have link2sd and foldermount working and not to risk ruining that setup. I think the only thing i'd notice from 4.2.2 is the access camera from the lock screen feature.
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If you want to continue to use stock.....
1) Backup all your app data with titanium backup (as a precaution)
2) Copy all internal /sdcard data to PC
3) Flash whatever "official" ROM you want via Odin
4) If it doesn't boot, perform factory reset#
5) re root using either cf auto root or framaroot (both do not give custom recovery)
6) Install Titanium backup and restore data.
Its worth noting a factory reset from custom recovery only wipes data and settings. A reset from stock recovery wipes internal /sdcard storage too.
rootSU said:
If you want to continue to use stock.....
1) Backup all your app data with titanium backup (as a precaution)
2) Copy all internal /sdcard data to PC
3) Flash whatever "official" ROM you want via Odin
4) If it doesn't boot, perform factory reset#
5) re root using either cf auto root or framaroot (both do not give custom recovery)
6) Install Titanium backup and restore data.
Its worth noting a factory reset from custom recovery only wipes data and settings. A reset from stock recovery wipes internal /sdcard storage too.
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Thanks again :good: I have CWM installed and when I open CWM Manager I get a message "this version of CWM Manager should be used with CF-CWM v1.1 or newer. It appears you are running a different recovery. Various features have been disabled."
If I boot into recovery at the top it says "CWM-based recovery v5.5.04 :: CF-v1.3"
What effect does any of that have on the above steps?
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Thanks again :good: I have CWM installed and when I open CWM Manager I get a message "this version of CWM Manager should be used with CF-CWM v1.1 or newer. It appears you are running a different recovery. Various features have been disabled."
If I boot into recovery at the top it says "CWM-based recovery v5.5.04 :: CF-v1.3"
What effect does any of that have on the above steps?
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CWM manager is an app to manage CWM. Its pretty pointless. I dont think it works on JB ROMs though.
CWM 5 is old and should be replaced by users who want to continue using a custom recovery.
The flashing stock from Odin process will overwrite any bootloader, recovery, ROM and Baseband. Nothing you have can prevent that.
Sorry for posting 2 topics but it's a bit urgent.
So in recovery mode, there is an option to "apply update from external storage". Does this mean if I have a factory image for my phone's version of Android, that it will install that?
Sorry for being a noob btw
Depends on the phone. Generally it is for OTA update zips, not the whole firmware.
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Depends on the phone. Generally it is for OTA update zips, not the whole firmware.
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My phone is a Samsung galaxy grand prime (sm-g530a) so it is possible to install stock firmware using this method on some devices? For example, I don't have a computer, so if I get stuck in boot loop, can I do that?
No. You will need a PC.
I also have another question, do ota updates I have downloaded in the past affect rootability of my phone? I have to flash the stock kernel in order to root it but I'm trying to gather as much info as I can before trying