Hi, i'm on 4.1.2 and rooted using link2sd and foldermount so I can store apps on the external sd card. If I upgrade to 4.2.2 do I need to unroot first and then root again after flashing the new firmware?
Also i'm assuming i'm going to lose all my game saves etc as I will lose my link2sd and foldermount setups?
My phone is unlocked from the 3 network but still has the 3 network logo on boot up and so I thought if i'm going to have to start afresh I might as well get the stock unbranded S3 rom and get rid of the 3 network branding. I used Galaxsim unlock to unlock the network so i'm assuming I won't lose my network unlock by doing any of the above?
Thanks in advance for any help given.
Sp0oner said:
Hi, i'm on 4.1.2 and rooted using link2sd and foldermount so I can store apps on the external sd card. If I upgrade to 4.2.2 do I need to unroot first and then root again after flashing the new firmware?
Also i'm assuming i'm going to lose all my game saves etc as I will lose my link2sd and foldermount setups?
My phone is unlocked from the 3 network but still has the 3 network logo on boot up and so I thought if i'm going to have to start afresh I might as well get the stock unbranded S3 rom and get rid of the 3 network branding. I used Galaxsim unlock to unlock the network so i'm assuming I won't lose my network unlock by doing any of the above?
Thanks in advance for any help given.
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Just flash any rooted 4.2.2 ROM via custom recovery. You should take a titanium backup and a nandroid backup first. If it flashes without a wipe, you've lost nothing. If you do have to wipe, you can restore using Titanium. The Nandroid is a full system restore incase nothing works.
rootSU said:
Just flash any rooted 4.2.2 ROM via custom recovery. You should take a titanium backup and a nandroid backup first. If it flashes without a wipe, you've lost nothing. If you do have to wipe, you can restore using Titanium. The Nandroid is a full system restore incase nothing works.
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Thanks. As you can tell i'm not up to speed on android rooting as i'm an ex iphone devotee that was good with jailbreaking but i'm new to android rooting really.
If I take an already rooted rom that surely still overwrites my current data as a rom replaces what is already there doesn't it? Can titanium and nandroid backup to pc via usb cable as my 32gb sd card won't have enough room to backup onto as it's heavily used for foldermount and link2sd.
If I wanted a pre rooted 4.2.2 stock rom for the I9300 is that something I can find on this forum to safely download and try? And if for any reasom i'm not happy with it the nandroid backup will restore the phone back to my original rom and setup as if I hadn't changed roms?
Rom and data are different. Please read the link in my signature "read before reading". It should contain everything you need to know (i'm not just saying this because I wrote it, but its really essential).
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Rom and data are different. Please read the link in my signature "read before reading". It should contain everything you need to know (i'm not just saying this because I wrote it, but its really essential).
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Thank you, again. I have read all that this morning and I am in no rush to change anything as one thing i've learnt from jailbreaking when I first got into it was rushing = ending up in a big mess and panicking you've bricked your device.
I rooted my S3 earlier this year and so I expect I still have all the files and the url of the guide I followed so I can check exactly what it was I did. My flash counter won't reset to zero which really bugged me and again another lesson learnt from doing something without fully checking the consequences.
I'm an IT engineer but all windows based so when it comes to android/linux what I think would be logical pretty much seems to go out the window!
Its always good to hold off and understand before moving forward. Read the thread through a few times.
I'm also a wintel IT engineer but I wanted to get into android development so I've been using Linux at home as my daily driver for 2 years.
If there's ever anything in that thread you want me to put into windows analogies or similes,,just ask in that thread. It will help me expand the thread also
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Its always good to hold off and understand before moving forward. Read the thread through a few times.
I'm also a wintel IT engineer but I wanted to get into android development so I've been using Linux at home as my daily driver for 2 years.
If there's ever anything in that thread you want me to put into windows analogies or similes,,just ask in that thread. It will help me expand the thread also
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Thanks again. I've been having a play about today and firstly got a titanium backup done for everything and then copied to my laptop. Then got the online version of nandroid backup so no reboot required to take the backup and did a full one of those and copied to my laptop too.
I've checked what root process I followed and it was one posted on the s3 forums using GalaxyS3root which uses a file via odin called CF-Root-SGS3-v6.1.tar. I won't post the link in case it breaks any rules etc. After reading your other post as advised I get the impression i'm not going to be able to reset my flash counter to zero. I have tried triangle away but it doesn't succeed.
As Android 4.3 is out/due out i'm now thinking pointless moving to 4.2.2 and I should wait and got straight to 4.3. Now what I wanted to ask was the following...
If I took titanium backup and then undid all my link2sd and foldermount links and then unrooted would I be able to flash the stock 4.3 rom when available, root it then reset up link2sd and foldermount and restore the titanium backup and have all my apps back to how they were?
I want to get an unmodified samsung rom that is unbranded so I can get rid of my 3 network branding I currently have on boot up. I also want to know if it is possible in anyway to reset the flash counter so I could in theory if unrooted get ota updates.
First question...
If you wipe and manually set up link2sd - when you then restore via titanium everything should be as it was.
You can reset the counter before unrooting. Theres a return-to-stock guide stuck in the "sticky roll-up thread" that covers it. The counter goes up to 1 on boot so the trick is to prevent the boot...
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rootSU said:
First question...
If you wipe and manually set up link2sd - when you then restore via titanium everything should be as it was.
You can reset the counter before unrooting. Theres a return-to-stock guide stuck in the "sticky roll-up thread" that covers it. The counter goes up to 1 on boot so the trick is to prevent the boot...
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Thanks, so the counter can't be cleared permanently for warranty purposes as a reboot will just put it back to 1. So as I have a custom recovery on the phone that went on with the root will that cause issues if I tried to update via official updates?
It can be prevented with an ics bootloader.
Imho its best to stay away from official updates when rooted
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It can be prevented with an ics bootloader.
Imho its best to stay away from official updates when rooted
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Thanks. An ics bootloader however will just further invalidate the warranty and also prevent stock updates? What I had been getting at with wanting to do stock updates was to unroot first. However now i've got the custom recovery there that in itself makes stock updates an unwise move even with rooting removed?
So with my current setup what is the best method to go to 4.2.2 without using a custom rom?
They check warranty by looking at the information provided in the bootloader. Your warranty is either void or not void. There is no such thing as further invalidation. Its 0 or 1. There is no 2.
There is no "best way" without using a "custom rom". If you want to flash a stock rom, do it. Theres only one way.
By the way, 4.2.2 hasn't been officially released, so you wont be getting stock updates. You'll have to manually keep flashing release via odin until you get one that is official. Then if your csc is wrong, you have to change it (which requires factory reset) and then you will still only get updates over USB if you're rooted.
Don't get me wrong, but that sounds ridiculous to me. I just don't understand any rooted user wanting to do that
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rootSU said:
They check warranty by looking at the information provided in the bootloader. Your warranty is either void or not void. There is no such thing as further invalidation. Its 0 or 1. There is no 2.
There is no "best way" without using a "custom rom". If you want to flash a stock rom, do it. Theres only one way.
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By the way, 4.2.2 hasn't been officially released
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Thanks for the quick reply. I've just read through the link on your thread for returning to stock and unless i've misread it you can actually return to stock even if you have installed a custom recovery/used the auto cf root method of rooting? That's step 16?
Sorry on the invalidating warranty thing, what I meant was that if you use the ics bootloader you fix the triangleaway issue but you are then left with the ics bootloader so your warranty is still invalid.
My mistake on 4.2.2, what's the latest official version as if I plug into kies it tells me there is an update available which i'd wrongly assumed was 4.2.2?
4.1.2 is the latest.
They don't check bootloader version for warranty. They only check download mode.
You can return to stock so long as phone fully boots and usb works. If phone only partially boots, you can't return to stock or reset counter. This is why IMHO its better to have an ics bootloader where counter is always in the reset state
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rootSU said:
You can return to stock so long as phone fully boots and usb works. If phone only partially boots, you can't return to stock or reset counter. This is why IMHO its better to have an ics bootloader where counter is always in the reset state
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OK this has totally lost me now, I need to do some more reading! Also i'm on 4.1.2 yet if I plug into Kies ittells me there is an update available.
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OK this has totally lost me now, I need to do some more reading! Also i'm on 4.1.2 yet if I plug into Kies ittells me there is an update available.
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An update won't necessarily update the android version. It will update the Samsung build version. Samsung have probably close to 100 updates on 4.1.2 (globally).
Android is just the base OS. It has Samsung GUI on top of that (and frameworks to support Samsung proprietary features). So Samsung take the android code for 4.1.2 and add all their stuff to it. But they will improve on that over a number of builds. Fixing bugs, addressing performance issues etc.
However, Samsung tend to release new features in line with android base updates too. so if Samsung are working on 4.1.2 and decide, "hey this feature would be cool", they would usually wait for the next android version to release it.
Hope that makes sense
Did that address your confusion?
Or is your confusion about returning to stock?
You return to stock by flashing a full ROM (which includes a bootloader, Android ROM, Recovery, baseband etc) over USB connection to a computer. The phone is put into download mode and flashed. if your USB is faulty, this wont work (obviously).
Before returning to stock, you need to ensure your download mode doesnt show how many times you flashed custom things. You can reset it then flash stock and warranty is fine. However, to reset it, android needs to boot, so if android doesnt boot and counter says more than "0", you've lost warranty, With ICS bootloader, you reset it once and it always says "0", so you are protected if phone doesnt boot.
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An update won't necessarily update the android version. It will update the Samsung build version. Samsung have probably close to 100 updates on 4.1.2 (globally).
Android is just the base OS. It has Samsung GUI on top of that (and frameworks to support Samsung proprietary features). So Samsung take the android code for 4.1.2 and add all their stuff to it. But they will improve on that over a number of builds. Fixing bugs, addressing performance issues etc.
However, Samsung tend to release new features in line with android base updates too. so if Samsung are working on 4.1.2 and decide, "hey this feature would be cool", they would usually wait for the next android version to release it.
Hope that makes sense
Did that address your confusion?
Or is your confusion about returning to stock?
You return to stock by flashing a full ROM (which includes a bootloader, Android ROM, Recovery, baseband etc) over USB connection to a computer. The phone is put into download mode and flashed. if your USB is faulty, this wont work (obviously).
Before returning to stock, you need to ensure your download mode doesnt show how many times you flashed custom things. You can reset it then flash stock and warranty is fine. However, to reset it, android needs to boot, so if android doesnt boot and counter says more than "0", you've lost warranty, With ICS bootloader, you reset it once and it always says "0", so you are protected if phone doesnt boot.
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Thanks for both explanations :good: It was the ics bootloader I was really confused about. I'm in two minds as to change anything, the techy part of me says play with it and learn and understand more about what you've explained but the other side says i've got everything setup perfectly at the moment now I have link2sd and foldermount working and not to risk ruining that setup. I think the only thing i'd notice from 4.2.2 is the access camera from the lock screen feature.
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Thanks for both explanations :good: It was the ics bootloader I was really confused about. I'm in two minds as to change anything, the techy part of me says play with it and learn and understand more about what you've explained but the other side says i've got everything setup perfectly at the moment now I have link2sd and foldermount working and not to risk ruining that setup. I think the only thing i'd notice from 4.2.2 is the access camera from the lock screen feature.
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If you want to continue to use stock.....
1) Backup all your app data with titanium backup (as a precaution)
2) Copy all internal /sdcard data to PC
3) Flash whatever "official" ROM you want via Odin
4) If it doesn't boot, perform factory reset#
5) re root using either cf auto root or framaroot (both do not give custom recovery)
6) Install Titanium backup and restore data.
Its worth noting a factory reset from custom recovery only wipes data and settings. A reset from stock recovery wipes internal /sdcard storage too.
rootSU said:
If you want to continue to use stock.....
1) Backup all your app data with titanium backup (as a precaution)
2) Copy all internal /sdcard data to PC
3) Flash whatever "official" ROM you want via Odin
4) If it doesn't boot, perform factory reset#
5) re root using either cf auto root or framaroot (both do not give custom recovery)
6) Install Titanium backup and restore data.
Its worth noting a factory reset from custom recovery only wipes data and settings. A reset from stock recovery wipes internal /sdcard storage too.
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Thanks again :good: I have CWM installed and when I open CWM Manager I get a message "this version of CWM Manager should be used with CF-CWM v1.1 or newer. It appears you are running a different recovery. Various features have been disabled."
If I boot into recovery at the top it says "CWM-based recovery v5.5.04 :: CF-v1.3"
What effect does any of that have on the above steps?
Sp0oner said:
Thanks again :good: I have CWM installed and when I open CWM Manager I get a message "this version of CWM Manager should be used with CF-CWM v1.1 or newer. It appears you are running a different recovery. Various features have been disabled."
If I boot into recovery at the top it says "CWM-based recovery v5.5.04 :: CF-v1.3"
What effect does any of that have on the above steps?
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CWM manager is an app to manage CWM. Its pretty pointless. I dont think it works on JB ROMs though.
CWM 5 is old and should be replaced by users who want to continue using a custom recovery.
The flashing stock from Odin process will overwrite any bootloader, recovery, ROM and Baseband. Nothing you have can prevent that.
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Hi there, I have been reading around on this forum for some time now but this is my first post and I have a few questions about rooting my UK version of the Galaxy S3.
Just to clarify, I am NOT asking how to root a phone, I already know exactly how to do this and the risks involved etc etc, I just want to know a couple of things about what happens after the root.
1. When a nandroid backup is performed after the phone is rooted, is ROM that is backed up COMPLETELY standard or does it have some remains of the root included? i.e. if I wanted to go back to my stock ROM, will it be exactly as it was or will the phone still have some remains of the root in the backup?
2. Does rooting on its own increase the flash counter? I know flashing a new ROM does, but am unsure whether rooting on its own does this (and yes, I am already aware of TriangleAway )
3. In referance to question 1, does reflashing a completely stock ROM remove the root access? (just in case it has to go back for repairs etc).
4. After rooting does anything change with the stock functions of the phone? e.g. will play store still work ok, will apps still update officially through play store etc. Adding to this, will flashing a custom ROM disable these functions? (the ROM I am possibly looking to install is CM)
Thanks in advance to anyone that can help, I understand a couple of these may be stupid questions but I've searched for a long time and as this will be my first root I just want to be absolutely sure what the process involves
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Hi there, I have been reading around on this forum for some time now but this is my first post and I have a few questions about rooting my UK version of the Galaxy S3.
Just to clarify, I am NOT asking how to root a phone, I already know exactly how to do this and the risks involved etc etc, I just want to know a couple of things about what happens after the root.
1. When a nandroid backup is performed after the phone is rooted, is ROM that is backed up COMPLETELY standard or does it have some remains of the root included? i.e. if I wanted to go back to my stock ROM, will it be exactly as it was or will the phone still have some remains of the root in the backup?
2. Does rooting on its own increase the flash counter? I know flashing a new ROM does, but am unsure whether rooting on its own does this (and yes, I am already aware of TriangleAway )
3. In referance to question 1, does reflashing a completely stock ROM remove the root access? (just in case it has to go back for repairs etc).
4. After rooting does anything change with the stock functions of the phone? e.g. will play store still work ok, will apps still update officially through play store etc. Adding to this, will flashing a custom ROM disable these functions? (the ROM I am possibly looking to install is CM)
Thanks in advance to anyone that can help, I understand a couple of these may be stupid questions but I've searched for a long time and as this will be my first root I just want to be absolutely sure what the process involves
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1. Whe you perform a nandroid backup..everything gets backedup..if you are on a rooted rom when doing a backup (you have to be rooted to do this) your rom will have the root when you install the backup again... to remove the root you will have to unroot your device using means given in various thread...you might have to install a stock firmware in download mode using Odin..even the stock ROM you flash via recovery will have root
2. Any action performed in the download mode will increase your flash counter..rooting is done in download mode via Odin so it increases your flash counter..custom roms are flashed in recovery so they dont increase your flash counter..
3. Read point 1 again
4.The functions present after installing a custom ROM depends upon the ROM..read the OP before flashing (ALWAYS)..but if you are not flashing a test ROM..you will get all the fuctions.. in CM9/10 you will get all the google options..you will loose Samsung specific functions..Smart Stay, Smart Beam etc.
Hope it helped...
Thanks for your reply, that helped a lot
Just one more thing in response to your answer about my 1st question - I am currently on the Three network and it comes with a couple of things as standard in the ROM, so is there any way to backup the ROM without being rooted, just in case it has to go back to Three for repair? Or is there somewhere where I can download a completely stock Three branded ROM to keep safe in case I need it in the future?
Thanks
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Google search this mate
Yes there is a Rom to download
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If u Google search... and put xda at the end. Utility will normally redirect you to an appropriate thread. Leaving the need to post a new topic obsolete
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paul911 said:
Thanks for your reply, that helped a lot
Just one more thing in response to your answer about my 1st question - I am currently on the Three network and it comes with a couple of things as standard in the ROM, so is there any way to backup the ROM without being rooted, just in case it has to go back to Three for repair? Or is there somewhere where I can download a completely stock Three branded ROM to keep safe in case I need it in the future?
Thanks
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ROM GUIDE and stock rom thread on General or use CHECKFUS to download .
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Thanks for replies
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Hi.
First of all, thank you for sharing SO MUCH information on this forum!
Now,
I got my Note last night and I rooted the it using dr.ketan's instructions (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1329360) with the method #1b... I only rooted it for using orbot and don't feel the need for a custom ROM at the moment. Thus I didn't see the need for following through anymore steps (2 onward). I did make a back EFS and backed up my apps and system settings using titanium after I rooted.
My question is, if I want to unroot, do I simply repeat the rooting process only with the following two files:
UnRoot :
Busybox uninstaller - Flash in recovery
Complete unroot (busybox+Superuser) - Flash in recovery
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or must I find a stock ROM as described here and flash that over my already stock setup. Since I have no interest in custome ROMs/kernels should I worry about anything like bricking or corrupting my phone?
armansoor said:
Hi.
First of all, thank you for sharing SO MUCH information on this forum!
Now,
I got my Note last night and I rooted the it using dr.ketan's instructions (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1329360) with the method #1b... I only rooted it for using orbot and don't feel the need for a custom ROM at the moment. Thus I didn't see the need for following through anymore steps (2 onward). I did make a back EFS and backed up my apps and system settings using titanium after I rooted.
My question is, if I want to unroot, do I simply repeat the rooting process only with the following two files:
or must I find a stock ROM as described here and flash that over my already stock setup. Since I have no interest in custome ROMs/kernels should I worry about anything like bricking or corrupting my phone?
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Since your already on a completely stock ROM setup just select the completely unroot option once it completes reboot the phone and you should be all set. If your returning your phone to the manufacturer or bringing it in for service then you would want to reflash the stock ROM just to be extra sure they could never tell you were rooted
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Okay so I recently got my Galaxy Note II from VZ and traveled to Singapore and got a Singtel SIM, then I need to goto Thailand and acquire another SIM. I need to input APN settings on this phone from the Singapore carrier: Singtel but the VZ bastards hide this APN field on this phone...sooooo.. I need to root my phone.
From the masta xda-dev the instructions to load the latest note2_JellyBeans_B8.zip onto this Samsung Galaxy Note II phone is:
YOU MUST BE UNLOCKED (yup this phone is unlocked ..I can make calls np but no data... wah)
Step 1-
Wipe Data Factory Reset!
Step 2-
Wipe davlick cache
Step 3-
install zip and pick your options
Step 4-
Reboot and enjoy!
Step 1: HOW do I factory reset this phone and
Step 2: How do I davlick (whatever that means) my cache?
I am a brand new n00b so sarcasm is ok for the moment but any genuine help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Found part of it
Yup sorry... Google is still my best friend so I found the part of how to factory reset this phone:
"Turn the Power off. Gently press and hold down Volume Up + Home + Power buttons simultaneously. Release all keys once the Logo appears. You will then prompted in a Android System Recovery options. Now, scroll down using Volume keys, and choose "Select Wipe Data/Factory Reset" Enter your selection using the "Power" button Select Yes — "Delete All User Data". Then, select "Reboot System Now".
Wait until the device will then completely reboots. You can repeat this process if you need to restore back your Samsung Galaxy Note 2 to its original default settings. "
Now the davlick cache bit... *scratches head* and heads on to startpage dot com for a search.
By unlocked they mean boot loader. Are you in the new ota LL4? If so file this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37195287
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kintwofan said:
By unlocked they mean boot loader. Are you in the new ota LL4? If so file this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37195287
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I believe you are absolutely right. I need CASUAL to begin the process of unlocking the phone but per the above linkie that is considered jailbreaking not unlocking (big difference). Anyway not sure if I have ota LL4 but my specs are the following:
Model: SCH-1605
Android Version: 4.1.1
Baseband Version: 1605VRALL4
Kernel Version: 3.0.31-414933
[email protected] #1
Build Number: JR something...
Hardware version: 1605.06
Does that info help?
hugeyeti said:
I believe you are absolutely right. I need CASUAL to begin the process of unlocking the phone but per the above linkie that is considered jailbreaking not unlocking (big difference). Anyway not sure if I have ota LL4 but my specs are the following:
Model: SCH-1605
Android Version: 4.1.1
Baseband Version: 1605VRALL4
Kernel Version: 3.0.31-414933
[email protected] #1
Build Number: JR something...
Hardware version: 1605.06
Does that info help?
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That's the right link to unlock. I believe he caked it jail break to avoid confusion since unlocking sims is now illegal. That method will work for your set up
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If you notice in parentheses he put boot loader unlock next to jail break.
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kintwofan said:
That's the right link to unlock. I believe he caked it jail break to avoid confusion since unlocking sims is now illegal. That method will work for your set up
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If you notice in parentheses he put boot loader unlock next to jail break.
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Thanks for the input. Now.. do you know of a suitable app that will backup what I have currently on this phone (SD Card notwithstanding), and after a factory reset have it all restored? All my music and movies are on the SD card but main apps that I bought from the app store are in the actual phone and not the SD card.
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Thanks for the input. Now.. do you know of a suitable app that will backup what I have currently on this phone (SD Card notwithstanding), and after a factory reset have it all restored? All my music and movies are on the SD card but main apps that I bought from the app store are in the actual phone and not the SD card.
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I use titanium backup pro. It takes me les then 10 minutes to be back up and running after resets
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kintwofan said:
I use titanium backup pro. It takes me les then 10 minutes to be back up and running after resets
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Assuming everything went well, I read Samsung inserted new code to blacklist folks that root their phones. Further if you update your firmware then VZ will pretty much make your phone useless and you have to factory reset it. Are there any precautionary measure I should be aware of AFTER the jailbreak that will keep my phone free of these nuisances? Thanks for all your help btw.
If you're staying stock rooted then freeze the app sdm1.0 just to avoid an update but besides that you're good
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If you're staying stock rooted then freeze the app sdm1.0 just to avoid an update but besides that you're good
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Titanium Backup Pro needs a rooted phone so I am unable to backup anything stock. Not a big deal since I can re-download the common apps I bought from the app store (which are mostly games for my nephew). I am assuming that I should be able to freeze this SDM app on Titanium Backup Pro once I install it.
I am a bit confused when you say stock rooted. Do you mean I no longer should update the jellybean OS to latest releases? or installation of third party apps? or modifying the kernel?
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Titanium Backup Pro needs a rooted phone so I am unable to backup anything stock. Not a big deal since I can re-download the common apps I bought from the app store (which are mostly games for my nephew). I am assuming that I should be able to freeze this SDM app on Titanium Backup Pro once I install it.
I am a bit confused when you say stock rooted. Do you mean I no longer should update the jellybean OS to latest releases? or installation of third party apps? or modifying the kernel?
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You know you can root, backup, then factory reset. What I meant by stock rooted is that if you're not going to flash any ROM and just leave your phone rooted only then freeze sdm. If you're flashing a ROM then there's no need to worry about it.
Also, just a tip when you're rooted and unlocked boot loader never accept an OTA
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You know you can root, backup, then factory reset. What I meant by stock rooted is that if you're not going to flash any ROM and just leave your phone rooted only then freeze sdm. If you're flashing a ROM then there's no need to worry about it.
Also, just a tip when you're rooted and unlocked boot loader never accept an OTA
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Thanks. My phone is now unlocked by CASUAL and I froze sdm 1.0 as you suggested. Is sdm1.0 the app that accepts OTA's? If not, where exactly should I disable ANY OTA coming in? I want to make sure that this phone is left "as is" as long as it's rooted. Also, assuming I want to install the latest jellybeans ROM, and I don't have to worry about sdm like you mentioned, is there a particular app I should be concerned about and freeze it to avoid OTA?
Further, what's your take on being stock root vs. loading say... the latest jellybean OS http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2032447
What is your preference and why?
hugeyeti said:
Thanks. My phone is now unlocked by CASUAL and I froze sdm 1.0 as you suggested. Is sdm1.0 the app that accepts OTA's? If not, where exactly should I disable ANY OTA coming in? I want to make sure that this phone is left "as is" as long as it's rooted. Also, assuming I want to install the latest jellybeans ROM, and I don't have to worry about sdm like you mentioned, is there a particular app I should be concerned about and freeze it to avoid OTA?
Further, what's your take on being stock root vs. loading say... the latest jellybean OS http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2032447
What is your preference and why?
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You are safe from any ota. You can't even manualy take it now unless you unfreeze sdm.
Now if you flash beans or any other custom ROM you don't have to worry about otas at all. They're already blocked.
As for stock rooted vs beans that's really up to you. Performance and battery are really about the same. You get extra features with a custom ROM is the main advantage. I am running beans now because I don't like the stock look. I'll probably switch back to Eclipse with the next update because it's even darker and that's what I like.
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I recently rooted my T-mobile 4G Samsung Galaxy S with SuperOneClick, but I think I have decided that root is way too advanced for me. I have not installed any ROMs since rooting, is it still possible for me to reinstall Android back to the stock version safely, or has my device been permanently modified??
For those unaware of SuperOneClick, installing it did not require me to lose any data on the phone to root, which was pretty nice. I like being rooted, my inner geek lusted for it, but I have a feeling it's just not for me. Perhaps if I learned a little more about ROMs, I may go that route. Either way, I want to reinstall Android and start over.
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Double44 said:
I recently rooted my T-mobile 4G Samsung Galaxy S with SuperOneClick, but I think I have decided that root is way too advanced for me. I have not installed any ROMs since rooting, is it still possible for me to reinstall Android back to the stock version safely, or has my device been permanently modified??
For those unaware of SuperOneClick, installing it did not require me to lose any data on the phone to root, which was pretty nice. I like being rooted, my inner geek lusted for it, but I have a feeling it's just not for me. Perhaps if I learned a little more about ROMs, I may go that route. Either way, I want to reinstall Android and start over.
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You can go back to stock rom find your stock rom and flash it with odin search in google
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Double44 said:
I recently rooted my T-mobile 4G Samsung Galaxy S with SuperOneClick, but I think I have decided that root is way too advanced for me. I have not installed any ROMs since rooting, is it still possible for me to reinstall Android back to the stock version safely, or has my device been permanently modified??
For those unaware of SuperOneClick, installing it did not require me to lose any data on the phone to root, which was pretty nice. I like being rooted, my inner geek lusted for it, but I have a feeling it's just not for me. Perhaps if I learned a little more about ROMs, I may go that route. Either way, I want to reinstall Android and start over.
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An easier way to do it is to install SuperSU from the market and do full unroot in settings
Thanks guys, I will definitely look into those options. If I went in the root direction, could I possibly reformat the entire phone including the SD card? I have nothing on there worth keeping and want a clean slate to start from, the phone is currently running at super slow speeds.
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Thanks guys, I will definitely look into those options. If I went in the root direction, could I possibly reformat the entire phone including the SD card? I have nothing on there worth keeping and want a clean slate to start from, the phone is currently running at super slow speeds.
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yes try twrp or cwm with that format system dalvik cache, cache data or anything you want
then flash your stock rom using odin
you will get a new phone as if you bought it today
Using the XDA wiki I found here, I think I've decided I am going to attempt to install a custom ROM.
I'm already rooted w/SuperOneClick, and am still on stock Gingerbread 2.3.6. This would be classified as BLM, correct?
If I am following this wiki correctly, I am at the step of installing a kernel to obtain ClockworkMod Recovery. I did some looking around between the two choices listed, Basic With A Twist and Blast-Off!. The XDA wiki suggests that All custom kernels for this device have CWM Recovery preinstalled, but I cannot seem to verify this. I'd hate to fool around with either of the two if I cannot obtain ClockworkMod Recovery.
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Using the XDA wiki I found here, I think I've decided I am going to attempt to install a custom ROM.
I'm already rooted w/SuperOneClick, and am still on stock Gingerbread 2.3.6. This would be classified as BLM, correct?
If I am following this wiki correctly, I am at the step of installing a kernel to obtain ClockworkMod Recovery. I did some looking around between the two choices listed, Basic With A Twist and Blast-Off!. The XDA wiki suggests that All custom kernels for this device have CWM Recovery preinstalled, but I cannot seem to verify this. I'd hate to fool around with either of the two if I cannot obtain ClockworkMod Recovery.
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check the thread of the kernel there should a list of features provided
if the kernel is integrated with cwm then t should be listed in the features so you can be sure about cwm
sangalaxy said:
check the thread of the kernel there should a list of features provided
if the kernel is integrated with cwm then t should be listed in the features so you can be sure about cwm
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I looked all over the BlastOff! and Basic With A Twist pages, but could not find any information on them regarding CWM.
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I looked all over the BlastOff! and Basic With A Twist pages, but could not find any information on them regarding CWM.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1470716 check this thread for something and I guess there is kernel with cwm
Right so, this is my first post so I'm very new here.
I have a Samsung S2 (I9100) which I rooted using Framaroot. I then flashed CM 10.1.3 on my phone. I also flashed the DorimanX 9.41 kernel. I want to return my phone to stock everything. Basically, as it was when it came out of the box. I want to do this because I might return it to warranty soon. I know the steps to do. However, I need to understand a few things:
Is Triangle Away safe if I use it correctly?
When I flash the stock firmware, will I be able to receive OTA updates or will all of my updates need to be from Odin?
If I want to restore my warranty, does my phone need to have the carrier branded firmware? I am going to get carrier-branded firmware anyway but I am just wondering.
My baseband version is I9100XXLPH. My carrier is T-Mobile UK. When I go to SamMobile, I get this:
GT-I9100 United Kingdom (T-Mobile) 2013 June 4.1.2 I9100XWLSY I9100TMULS8
If my baseband version is I9100XXLPH, does this mean that this firmware is not correct for my phone?
Thanks for the help!
1) Well yes, like any flash there's that 0.0000001% something will go wrong. You can't remove that risk regardless of what anyone might tell you. If that frightens you, best not flash anything at all. Ever.
2) If you go back to stock, you should be able to get OTA updates OK, but sometimes it doesn't always work out this way. It's just as easy to flash your stock updates via Odin if you find OTA updates won't happen for whatever reason (flashing a 3 part firmware with CSC when you go back to stock seems to make it more likely OTA updates happen smoothly after).
3) If I was returning a phone for a warranty claim, yes, I'd put the latest stock firmware on for my carrier.
4) Forget basebands (which is your modem & not really relevant to anything) or anything else, choose the latest firmware they have for your carrier, flash that.
Thanks very much. However, when using Triangle Away, is there ANYTHING I can do to increase the chances of a successful reset? Also, will having used Framaroot change anything?
I've never had any problems using it (have used it a number of times/on different devices) & am not aware of anything you can do to try and 'maximise' your chances of it working (it should work for most people/most of the time), other than reading thread devoted to it on here thoroughly if you're genuinely nervous about it; other people's experiences in the thread might yield some useful info.
The root method shouldn't have a great deal of bearing on anything, but I'm not a developer so I'm not familiar with the 'inner workings' of how Framaroot injects Su & Busybox onto the phone/whether it does anything materially different compared to other root methods that might interfere with Triangle Away. I don't believe it does based on I can't remember anyone posting in the two yrs I've been coming here saying 'Triangle Away wouldn't work because I used X root method'.
Put it this way, if worse came to worse, if Triangle Away refused to work/reset the flash counter, you could always go back to Gingerbread stock, reset the flash counter with a jig, then flash the latest stock firmware & sent it in for warranty service.
Triangle Away is quick/simple/works most of the time, but that's not the only option you have if it won't work & you absolutely must reset the flash counter.
Thanks for all the advice. One more question though , is Triangle Away compatible with all ROMs and kernels? And (hopefully) final question, do I only wipe data on recovery or do I also wipe cache?
It's I9100 compatible, so yes, it is.
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And (hopefully) final question, do I only wipe data on recovery or do I also wipe cache?
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Could you answer this question?
It doesn't matter, whatever suits you.
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It doesn't matter, whatever suits you.
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What does the cache do then?
Stores apps' info and other s#!t.
It's not mandatory to wipe per se, but it might help when going stock from custom and viceversa.
I told you, you're safe from the brick bug as long as you stay away from 4.0.4.
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OP - You're starting to overthink/ovecomplicate this. There's no need to. Reset the counter, flash stock, done.
Okay. It's just that the warnings on the Triangle Away app are a bit scary and both times I've flashed with Odin, I've been stuck in a bootloop. Anyway, hopefully, I'll have stock JB up and running before Monday.
Sent from my GT-I9100.
Trust me, you'll be fine (never trust someone who says 'trust me' )
When should I wipe data, before or after flash?
After.
Okay, thanks a lot. Just need to make a note of which apps I have installed so I can reinstall them afterwards. Also, is it possible to backup my messages and call logs?
Yes, titanium back up pro & similar.
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But Titanium Backup doesn't work without root. After going back to stock, I'm going to stay unrooted for a while. Also, I don't want to backup apps.
Notice that I included "similar" over there.
You really should hit the threads before you jump onto the flashing field.
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Thanks for the reply. Just two more questions:
If I do EVERYTHING correctly, is there any chance of a hard brick.
And, I tried following this guide (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068193) but the commands it said to back up my efs folder didn't work. Could you recommend an efs backup tool?