So recognized developer Chad Goodman, took a look at the Beats codebase back on Feb 18th, and had this to say over at Infectedrom... SOURCE
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the code in the beats audio drivers is insane.. totally nuts - serious time and effort did go into it...
just a fyi.
32 band active eq, activally updating at 96 updates per second
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There is two parts to the Beats equation, Kernel/Driver support, and Rom software support. If you are using a HTC Sense rom with Beats enabled, with the stock Evo 3D kernel, your only getting one part of the benefits. Chad has added the Drivers for Beats (the best drivers are from the Rezound) into the Kernel, so that if you are running one of his kernels AND a rom that supports Beats, you are going to experience the full effect. Chad has also been able to push almost ALL of the audio through the Beats system so that every app takes advantage of it in the newer kernels.
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i just expanded on what was there, and filtered all audio thru it
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i also disabled any and all audio processing in the DAC (digital to analog converter)
-i feel the DAC should have 1 job, and only 1 job - conert audio from digital to analog... no post-processing of audio, adjusting levels, etc
-all sound and audio processing should be done in the sound chipset - this leaves the CPU alone to perform other tasks
while not 100%, im pretty close to having ALL audio processing done in the sound chipset, removing most of it from the cpu
roms without beats, such as MIUI have noticed a huge improvement in audio quality when comparing audio in my kernel to the tiamat kernel that comes with the rom...
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The reason I am posting this is because I am tired of people reading about the over hyped Beats Headphone business and applying it to HTC's Beats implementation. They spent 350 million dollars for a 51% stake in Beats for more then marketing. I personally own two pairs of Beats, Solo HD and Tours, as well as some Sennheisers, and like each pair for a different reason. Talk all the crap on the headphones you want, but with full Beats integration and Beats Solo HD's or Beats Studios (i think they are called), Techno, dubstep, hip-rop, rap, pop, house music fans, and other bass heavy music fans will enjoy the extreme low-frequency performance, (better then my sennheisers that everyone bragged and boasted about and convinced me to buy)
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Good thread, but haters gonna hate that's all
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Beats makes a big difference to me. I'm using Turtle Beaches most of the time and they sound good.
Beats user/owner here I noticed a significant difference in roms and Chads kernel. Everything sounds real good, clear and deep bass. Never a dubstep fan until now
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Good thread, but haters gonna hate that's all
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Dubstep does sound amazing with beats emulation and the headphones. Just became my favorite genre to hear when I'm doing homework lulz
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I am running Z3RD 1.5 with anthrax # 6 on my shooter, and i can confirm that the sound is amazing to say the least. Sounds atleast 10 times better than beats with stock kernel.
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Is my EVO 3d faulty or is this just the way the speaker sounds?It's not very loud and has a tinny tone to it when watching videos or certain ring tones.
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Mines the same way..FYI
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I was just thinking how loud my speaker sounds....
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its no where near where the OG Evo was in terms on loudness..I can look passed it but damn its crazy low from what im use to
Coming from the Epic 4G, it's barely audible - the Epic had a monstrous speaker unrivaled by any other phone I've owned.
are they all like this? I typically put Pandora on when I take a shower and now I can barely even tell my phone is playing music, much less actually hear/enjoy it...
PC speakers always do the job for me, but yea I did notice the speaker isn't as loud as the OG EVo.
The speaker in my phone is horrible ... I shouldn't need external speakers to listen to my music.
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Same issue here
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quiet speaker, look at the speaker holes in the red rim of the camera...if someone mods it or comes up with a new back cover, it would probably be louder
I think the speakers just aren't that powerful. They're clearer than the old Evo, but probably only go up to around 75% as loud.
yeah this was a day 1 issue for me..Got Equalizer from the Market and all is good now..Still not a good as the evo4g but better to deal with than stock.
I was with some friends on the fourth of July and trying to entertain us with my new fancy device by playing music and it was so low or was ridiculous. I have found a remedy through. At staples is an external speaker for phones that is only 6.99. It is pretty small enough to be portable and decently loud.as long as this is with me that problem is Now eliminated.lol
It's not the speaker grill... You can take the cover off and it sucks exactly the same...
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It's not the speaker grill... You can take the cover off and it sucks exactly the same...
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yep..grill has nothing to do with it..Its just a small speaker..Very tinny sound to it too.Im getting use to it though.Only time i get mad is when my wife is near me with her OGEvo and it rings or if shes on a voice call on speaker phone.
The Evo 4G speaker was just perfect,deep and loud.I remember playing music quite loud on the 4G..Oh well,im over it kinda
BrianBaker said:
yep..grill has nothing to do with it..Its just a small speaker..Very tinny sound to it too.Im getting use to it though.Only time i get mad is when my wife is near me with her OGEvo and it rings or if shes on a voice call on speaker phone.
The Evo 4G speaker was just perfect,deep and loud.I remember playing music quite loud on the 4G..Oh well,im over it kinda
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funny, I thought the evo 4g speaker sucked too. my palm pre rocked the house...
They need to make a HTC surround with vanilla Android
Great idea, bad choice of OS, what a waste.
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This is almost like the ASUS Transformer..
I've begun looking at the files in /system/etc/soundimage in an attempt to increase the poor speaker volume and they look to be pretty interesting to say the least
Take a look at this file: (open with notepad++)
srsfx_trumedia_51
and this photo:
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And..............
SRS is effectively just DSP with unity gain. It will not change the line level voltage out from the stereo plug.
With unity gain comes distortion. It's like using a parametric EQ and yanking up all the dials and saying it's louder.. It's boosting certain frequencies giving priority to them over another reshaping the sound, not really increasing volume.
Just my 2 cents.
myn said:
SRS is effectively just DSP with unity gain. It will not change the line level voltage out from the stereo plug.
With unity gain comes distortion. It's like using a parametric EQ and yanking up all the dials and saying it's louder.. It's boosting certain frequencies giving priority to them over another reshaping the sound, not really increasing volume.
Just my 2 cents.
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Maybe so, but it was a good increase (distortion or not) on the ASUS TF, and it was the only way to deal with the terrible speakers.
Sorry to crash your thread, but while you're looking for ways to increase the speaker volume, could you PLEASE look for a way to increase the mic gain? People have been telling me I sound muffled. I'm on my second Evo 3D, but I'm still muffled. Is there a way to up the mic gain in SRS? Thanks.
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Sorry to crash your thread, but while you're looking for ways to increase the speaker volume, could you PLEASE look for a way to increase the mic gain? People have been telling me I sound muffled. I'm on my second Evo 3D, but I'm still muffled. Is there a way to up the mic gain in SRS? Thanks.
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Quite possibly, I'm going to look into this as soon as I finish up the mods for my ROM
freeza is on to something here its just like using dsp or volume +. I say its worth a shot! please keep this thread rolling
Just increase the input/output gains for the device block you want. It isn't hard. 1.5 to 2.0 on device block one for output gain yields decent results. Play around with it.
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EVO-DDD
i tried increasing the volume through QPST but couldn't get that to work, so this would be a great option for me.
Working on this tonight
What is the progress on this
EVO-DDD
mnsportsguy1978 said:
What is the progress on this
EVO-DDD
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+1 on this
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What is the progress on this
EVO-DDD
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Bump.........
+ for this as well, audio sucks on this device, should of kept the photon but loyalty took it's placed and changed it for an evo 3d.
elmatador2 said:
+ for this as well, audio sucks on this device, should of kept the photon but loyalty took it's placed and changed it for an evo 3d.
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+1 Feel you on that one I wasn't goin to get the photon tho I was just gonna keep my OG EVO longer
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okay just an observation... and maybe an opinion, but today i got some senheisser HD 280 pro headphones and i was listening to music with the "beats" enhancement on, and i noticed it was very tinny with little to no bass while listening to derezzed by daft punk. I know what the song sounds like on my computer and with earphones, but it sounded much worse with the headphones.
so this lead me to the conclusion that either it was the headphones or the music player, the 3vo. to test, i plugged my headphones into my friends blackberry and i noticed it sounded exactly the same. so then i decided to change to the regular enhancer to without the beats mod, and i noticed pretty much little to no difference, and the song had little to no low/bass end sounds.
that's when i thought either the beats enhancement is either only for beats headphones or just not working with my senheissers. my friend was pretty much laughing at this and was convinced HTC's music player sucked.
after my friend left, i decided i would try something; i switched out the HtcMusic.apk and the HtcMusicEnhancer.apk for the stock ones (found in virtuous rom) that come with the preset equalizers and the SRS enhancer and immediately noticed a huge difference, the bass was actually there and it was more of a studio sound than the "beats" enhancement. as well the preset equalizers also gave more depth in the bass and low ends when set to jazz or blues, etc.
Now i am NOT saying that the beats enhancement doesn't work, i just think that the SRS and regular eq's are much more effective. maybe this is because i am not using the beats headphones or ear phones?
maybe I am doing something wrong?
is anyone else finding they are having this experience?
any feedback is welcome.
PS. personally i don't like Beats audio... i think its a bit gimmicky and just a way to advertise just because its Dr Dre, because beats vs bose, for the price range, you're better off going with the AE2's or the sound cancelling headphones for 169 and 349, respectively.
Beats is definitely a gimmick. So are Bose. I am listening to a pair of QC-2 right now, and they are average at best... the noise cancelling is not that great either. Luckily they were a company gift, otherwise I'd be pissed off.
Honestly associating with Beats by Dre just makes me want to look elsewhere. IF this somehow gets HTC to put speakers that don't SUCK in these phones, and headphone amplifiers that are halfway decent, then I'll be happy. I will definitely remove all sound enhancements though. When will people learn that this SRS-like stuff just butchers the audio? I want the pure sound... I leave my EQ flat so I can get a true studio response in most environments. In the car and living room I use auto EQ/TA but the user EQs are always flat.
I don't use the stock music app but use cloudskipper instead because of its great equalizer.
Beats is just bell curved.
Here is a screenshot of what sounds great for me right now. Change it to your preferences.
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Just got my second pair of Skullcandy headphones and I gotta say that they are awesome. When paired with DSP manager or an eq they rock!!!
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Just got my second pair of Skullcandy headphones and I gotta say that they are awesome. When paired with DSP manager or an eq they rock!!!
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which ROM are you using with working dsp manager?
I use SkullCandy because they're cheap and sound great. Target for $9.99 even at Toys R Us. If the break I can buy a new pair without breaking the piggy hank.
Wicked Audio - mojo earbuds
106 db w/Mic for $20 @ gamestop
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i use the head phones that came with my moms captivate... surprisingly, they work really nice with the beats audio mod. (like almost as good as my friends beats solos)
I using a pair of 50/50 SkullCandy. They sound great on this phone. Got them new from SkullCandy on eBay for $25.
$sudo make me a sandwich
Ifrogz vertex's with fiio e5 headphone amp. If you like bass can't beat the combo like having 2 12" woffers on the sides of your head you can feel them vibrating. The head phones are $40 at Wal-Mart Probly find them cheaper online & $20 for fiio e5 amp on amazon. I'vs tried Probly 10 different kinds of head phones from $20-almost $200. Ifrogz vertex best sound/bass available IMO very clean lows and nice highs for the bass you get. Not as crystal clear as some ear buds highs but u get no bass. & the amp is a must it's a cell phone it needs some help let's be honest it just isn't putting out any power. Get a head phone amp you'll never go back. Feed those 40mm drivers, running just off the phone anything but ear buds are starving.
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soundping said:
I have two sets of those in black. "HTC RC E190 Tangle Free Headphones"
Part No: 39H00003-00M
Built-in Mic with noise reduction and in-call controls.
3 button music controls with built-in FM Antenna.
I paid $17.95 on Amazon.
They sound great for under $20. I can recommend these.
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Still sound great.
Beat by dre sutdio work very well
Bleh beats :sly: I use a pair of mark ecko earbuds lol and vmoda lp crossfades
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I like my ibeats from rezound
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Expensive at $100 but I'm using Beats earbuds with Poweramp. Great combo.
linx audio by able planet, for the money the best headphones
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nice
Klipsch S4A (A for android, they have an S4I for Iphone) has great reviews, its my daily. I've been wanting to upgrade with an amp and some more speed. About 79 bux at Frys.
Review @ http://reviews.cnet.com/headphones/klipsch-image-s4a-for/4505-7877_7-35025068.html
But if your curious what the best is, Shure SE535 for 499 is absoluty amazing.
Review @ http://reviews.cnet.com/headphones/shure-se535-metallic-bronze/4505-7877_7-34168053.html
Enjoy.
Okay,
Much has been made about the sound quality or lack of quality speaker(s) on this device. For the folks who are running high end iems, headphones, DIY joints, Koss titanium modded drivers, Full size cans etc...
What is your personal setup for audio listening pleasure??
Also don't forget to include amps etc..
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My setup will be
JH16's
Ray Samuels Hornet or JDS Labs cMoyBB
Note 3 (Not yet purchased)
Bose MIE2 outside and Sennheiser HD555 at home.
Try to encode in 192kbps ogg and hear.
Why would you use the note 3 if you have a high end set up?
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Sennheiser IE8 or V-Moda M100 depending on the situation.
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Why would you use the note 3 if you have a high end set up?
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As a portable on the go setup??
Some folks are over the secondary hifi setup that is sometimes carried around.
If you can keep it to a source device, amp and iems or headphones. That's pretty much carry anywhere without it being obtrusive.
I use JVC HA-FXC80 with comply foam tips. They are cheapish but give off an amazing sound. For the price nothing can touch them. Same goes for my pc headphones HA-RX700. Inner earphones last me a year or so because I run/bike with them so I don't bother getting an over the top pair that I know aren't going to last anyways.
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I use JVC HA-FXC80 with comply foam tips. They are cheapish but give off an amazing sound. For the price nothing can touch them. Same goes for my pc headphones HA-RX700. Inner earphones last me a year or so because I run/bike with them so I don't bother getting an over the top pair that I know aren't going to last anyways.
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Price only matters when dealing with the elitist of the hobbyist, if the headphones bang then they bang... I had a pair of Koss clip on's and with the mod those things were really nice. The cost was less than $10, but they out performed on a regular basis headphones costing $50-70 easily.
Once you try custom molded iems you will never go back to regular in ear phones. I have a pair of JH16's and can't say enough about the quality or response or sound etc.... Are they expensive? Yup, are they worth it? Yup... But I also have cheapies that I love as well... Just depends on my mood... And what I am listening to...
Beats Mixr
I initially tried the original earphones guess what....threw it away. No choice but to use my Beats Mixr and so far no complaints..:angel:
Use my Atomic Floyd darts, what else?
Ultimate Ears UE18 Pro custom IEMs. Also have Sennheiser HD600 and a few others.
my bluetooth headphones xD http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDR-1RBT-Premium-Bluetooth-Headphone/dp/B009A6D034
My chain looks like this:
Note 3 loaded with FLAC --> HeadAmp Pico USB DAC/amp via USB OTG --> headphones. Mostly use my T5p with it, sometimes my UE900, sometimes my LCD-2 when the mood takes me and I'm not near my desktop setup.
Well I use beat mixer..and they are working quite well...till now no problem with them...but the original Note 3 headsets sucks not far true to the expectations....
Flame away...
I love the way they sound.
I think I want a set of these for running the dog. Just so I can be the most hated man on any audiophile forum. Lol
JH Audio 16 Pro amped with a cheaply E17
Damn, just googled those. Almost $1200???
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Rockin some ATH-PRO700MK2's while at work or some Klipsch Image S4a's on the go.
Westone 2, VSonic GR07 BE, Klipsch S4/X10.
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Westone 2, VSonic GR07 BE, Klipsch S4/X10.
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Ditto on VSonic GR07 BE & Klipsch X10 ... plus Velodyne vPlulse for out and about.
Thinking about picking up a pair a-JAYS Five.
Anybody tried it with Urbanears platten?
Want to know if the microphone works well with it?