Sony did it again!!!
They POSTPONED ICS to mid april.
The first Xperia models to receive the upgrade will be Xperia arc S, Xperia neo V and Xperia ray. For these first models, the rollout will start mid-April and continue over 4-6 weeks.*
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Source:http://blogs.sonymobile.com/products/2012/03/30/the-vans-around-the-corner-android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-software-upgrade-coming-to-2011-xperia-smartphones-starting-from-mid-april/#more-5044
I slammed my fist on the keyboard the second i read that ~_~
If i do not get my ICS by the end of April 3rd week somebody gonna get hurt -_-
Real nice SONY ~_~
Qwerty123 \m/ said:
I slammed my fist on the keyboard the second i read that ~_~
If i do not get my ICS by the end of April 3rd week somebody gonna get hurt -_-
Real nice SONY ~_~
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I banged my head on my keyboard!!!
Calm down . You have an unlocked bootloader, just flash the beta. I've been using it since it came out, and everything's fine.
Must be really bad for those without unlocked bootloader. But I saw that the T.E.A.M. rom will bring some ICS features to gingerbread in the next update, like swipe to dismiss notification. Team rom doesn't require unlocked bootloader.
dhwanik said:
I banged my head on my keyboard!!!
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I banged myself on my keyboard!!!
yns322 said:
I banged myself on my keyboard!!!
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Poor keyboard
i,m using ICS JJ,s ROM as a daily driver without having an issues....
Relax guys,don't take it out on poor keyboards at least be happy that they are trying to make it smooth & bug free as possible,besides its just 2-3 weeks.We should be kinda thankful for the Sony dev team specially reading this.
Wth, i trow my phone away, always waiting -,-
Sent from my fast & supercharged Neo V and a tiny keyboard xD
postpone about 3w is acceptable, hope sony will focus on future producr
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True there are difficulties BUT
What im saying is Sony is a big corp with 100+ employess *Maybe
Assuming each Phone may have atleast 5devs working together everyday from 9am-4/5pm
They can easily put together a ROM
Yes the signing takes LOTS of time but with the resources they have at hand they cann pull of things at amazingly fast rates
NOW
Compare it to our devs here
Especially CM9
They take the basic SDK and port it to like so many devices !
Yes the signing part of GPS and blah is not done as it isnt required but if them devs with limited resources can pull it off
SONY sould have no problem
Our devs took ICS beta and turned it into a masterpiece !
Sony should've released the final within lets say 2-2.5 weeks after release
Im disappointed >_<
I mean no offence to anyone, its just my thought
Qwerty123 \m/ said:
True there are difficulties BUT
What im saying is Sony is a big corp with 100+ employess *Maybe
Assuming each Phone may have atleast 5devs working together everyday from 9am-4/5pm
They can easily put together a ROM
Yes the signing takes LOTS of time but with the resources they have at hand they cann pull of things at amazingly fast rates
NOW
Compare it to our devs here
Especially CM9
They take the basic SDK and port it to like so many devices !
Yes the signing part of GPS and blah is not done as it isnt required but if them devs with limited resources can pull it off
SONY sould have no problem
Our devs took ICS beta and turned it into a masterpiece !
Sony should've released the final within lets say 2-2.5 weeks after release
Im disappointed >_<
I mean no offence to anyone, its just my thought
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That's all true in theory. Not in the real world. People tend to do their hobbies way better than their job.
You got a point there ^
Agreed
But they- Employees,getting paid $$$
4.1.A.0.562 fw
what about 4.1.A.0.562 fw
it's certified for neo_v via ptcrb
can be ics based ?
yacloo said:
what about 4.1.A.0.562 fw
it's certified for neo_v via ptcrb
can be ics based ?
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that could be ICS or better yet if sony cannot release ICS then they should release GB 2.3.7 on 2011 Xperia as a token of abandoning ICS on 2011 xperia phones.
DrearierJester1 said:
that could be ICS or better yet if sony cannot release ICS then they should release GB 2.3.7 on 2011 Xperia as a token of abandoning ICS on 2011 xperia phones.
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I think it's ics based
only Xperia arc S, Xperia neo V and Xperia ray got that 4.1.A.0.562 fw via ptcrb
sony told The first Xperia models to receive the upgrade will be Xperia arc S, Xperia neo V and Xperia ray
and ics beta rom version numbering starts with 4.1 and it's also starts 4.1
%99 it's ics based and hope so
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only Xperia arc S, Xperia neo V and Xperia ray got that 4.1.A.0.562 fw via ptcrb
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arc also got that fw.
DrearierJester1 said:
that could be ICS or better yet if sony cannot release ICS then they should release GB 2.3.7 on 2011 Xperia as a token of abandoning ICS on 2011 xperia phones.
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That'd be pointless
Give us 2.3.7 and after a week 4.0 ?
At least give us 4.0.4
Wouldnt really be surprised if the xperia range gets ICS around August. Its that Eclair incident all over again. But idgaf, really, with CM9 almost a couple of builds.
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that could be ICS or better yet if sony cannot release ICS then they should release GB 2.3.7 on 2011 Xperia as a token of abandoning ICS on 2011 xperia phones.
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I really don't think they will abandon 2011 range Xperia's with ICS after all advertising they did(come on even boxes came with ICS upgradable sticker ),they will give it but will advice customers not to upgrade like they did in their latest blog post,maybe just maybe a 2.3.7 update too will come in the corner for people who decided not to upgrade.Hope they will go to 4.0.4 instead 4.0.3 these can be few last updates we get for 2011 range :/
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Hello All,
Sonyericsson Officially Confirmed Icream Sandvich Update for all sonyericsson xperia 2011 lineup including our xperia mini & mini pro.
Here is the official blog link:
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/produ...ich-for-sony-ericsson-2011-xperia™-portfolio/
cheers!!
I so didn't expect that! I picked this because I'd be able to change to a custom rom once Sony Ericsson left it behind.
I do want to try an overclock kernel soon though :S
Yes this is true. Se just tweeted this
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I'll believe it when I see it in person!
A really great news!!! I want the update very much, SE please release it before 2012
That would be quite unlikely since they just released the 2.3.4 update.
Awesome. I gotta say that I wasn't really sure if the phones could support it, but I guess they can.
Love the way they've made the hardware pretty much the same across the Xperia line, so they can get updates out faster.
Do you think the hardware accelerated GUI in ICS will eliminate all stuttering on android phones -ours in particular?
I know it's not much on the Xperia line, especially the Mini, which I have, but if it can get rid of it all together, it'd be nice.
Good news I hope we'll have release dates soon.
wow! This what what we all waiting for. Hope it'll be released very soon!
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Do you think the hardware accelerated GUI in ICS will eliminate all stuttering on android phones -ours in particular?
I know it's not much on the Xperia line, especially the Mini, which I have, but if it can get rid of it all together, it'd be nice.
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which mini do you have? 2011 or the older one? i have the sk17i, and in my opinion, it is the smoothest experience i can get on a cheap phone like this. i wouldn't mind if sony is not porting the ics.
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which mini do you have? 2011 or the older one? i have the sk17i, and in my opinion, it is the smoothest experience i can get on a cheap phone like this. i wouldn't mind if sony is not porting the ics.
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On a cheap phone like this? Its even smoother than any dual core phone ive ever tried, well, except for the S2. It never stutters or lags, even when im playing with my emulators
Mini has lag problem in the touchscreen.
I hope that they can solve it with 2.3.5. o ICS.
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Awesome. I gotta say that I wasn't really sure if the phones could support it, but I guess they can.
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A Polish named mikegapinski is managed to port ICS to LG GT540 which has only 600 MHz processor.
I think xperia has much better hardware and could support ICS.
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I don't know if it is old but...
Ice Cream Sandwich will come out for March on all Xperia Device.
but I just heard that the ICS is coming in January? Is that right?
still can't post direct link:
www . xperiablog . net/2011/11/28/sony-employee-claims-android-4-0-xperia-update-coming-1st-week-of-jan-2012/
Sony employee claims Android 4.0 Xperia update coming 1st week of Jan 2012
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but I just heard that the ICS is coming in January? Is that right?
still can't post direct link:
www . xperiablog . net/2011/11/28/sony-employee-claims-android-4-0-xperia-update-coming-1st-week-of-jan-2012/
Sony employee claims Android 4.0 Xperia update coming 1st week of Jan 2012
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mmmm
It will come out in different period for any device.
Maybe Xperia ArC on Jenuary and Xperia Mini on March.
Guessing is pointless
I just hope they will fix the unlocked bootloader bug with updates. Looking forward on tasting that sandwich!
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it doesnt matter when, January or March, the most important is fact that we will receive this update
cant wait for ICS & cm9
Has anyone got any news if Sony is going to release the ICS update they promised in the early of April? As they promised other Xperia 2011 phones ICS will be coming to them end of March, it doesn't look likely that XMP will be getting ICS soon? Has anyone got some recent news?
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Has anyone got any news if Sony is going to release the ICS update they promised in the early of April? As they promised other Xperia 2011 phones ICS will be coming to them end of March, it doesn't look likely that XMP will be getting ICS soon? Has anyone got some recent news?
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http://blogs.sonymobile.com/products/2012/03/30/the-vans-around-the-corner-android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-software-upgrade-coming-to-2011-xperia-smartphones-starting-from-mid-april/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-vans-around-the-corner-android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-software-upgrade-coming-to-2011-xperia-smartphones-starting-from-mid-april said:
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The first Xperia models to receive the upgrade will be Xperia arc S, Xperia neo V and Xperia ray. For these first models, the rollout will start mid-April and continue over 4-6 weeks.*
Following on, Xperia arc, Xperia PLAY, Xperia neo, Xperia mini, Xperia mini pro, Xperia pro, Xperia active and Sony Ericsson Live with Walkman will receive their scoop starting from the end of May/early June.*
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*The availability and scheduling of this software upgrade and specific models upgradeable to Android 4.0 will vary by market and carrier requirements.
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Xperia mini, mini pro and Live with Walkman only getting ICS by end of May and beggining of June.
Damn it, Sony.
A bit of looking in the General section...I didn't post this long ago
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572875
Well you probably read it around the same time so it's an easy mistake.
Yeah, 1 month delay. Looking at the beta roms (official) I'm confused about what the UI will be on the Mini/Pro. Will we have the ICS blue icons throughout, continue the SE UI, or a mix? I've seen a mix of all that on the betas available. I have loved almost every UI design SE has done. BUT I do NOT like much of the new Sony UI. Some of their phone designs are nice and unique, but I do NOT like their UI, I don't want it.
I just noticed that one of the final big features missing in the custom 4.0 roms has been fixed: the camera. Now I'm happy to download a custom 4.0, especially given the delay.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434001
I'm also really confused about many things.
First Sony said that the update was planed for end of April/Begging of may, now they are just delaying it
Also, I've never seen a beta ROM or a screenshot of the Timescape UI for smaller phones for ICS.
So disappointed....I flashed stocked ROM and relock bootloader just to update to official ICS update but now I have to wait till end of May or even beginning of June....WTF SONY??!!?!
Sony just delays the update in 1 months so we can have our fun time with the custom ROMs around
Update was delayed because of 3rd party certifications, maybe because they were busy in certifying Samsung and htc roms. 1 months isn't that long BTW.
1 month is not long at all. Should i remind you that the Xperia Pro (not the mini pro) was delayed around 8 months?
Besides, what is all the hype with ICS? You wont realise what is going under the hood, the UI will be exactly the same as it is now... Just because it is new doesn't mean its better, most of the times. Remember the bugs 4.0.3 had? the Changelog for 4.0.4 has some hundreds of changes to it from 4.0.3... So yea...
Sony have delayed the release of the ICS for the Arc S, Ray etc to mid april... So i guess we will have to wait a whole lot longer, more like mid june or something...
May be you should try some unofficial builds....
AOSP build by kamarush is really stable and i am using it on a daily basis... well xcept for hd recording...
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That's exactly why I've started with the custom roms for this phone. Stock SE runs perfectly, obviously so I didn't want to leave it until custom 4.0 were v stable. My fav is this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1554996&page=26
i really like the default ics UI.. so i picked up the custom ICS build by kamarush and expeacer. stable enough now for daily use.
Mid april??? I don't think so,after two weeks SONY give us new release date
I just saw this on PTCRB. 6.1.1.B.1.10 version firmware certified for the Xperia U (ST25i).
Could this be a Jelly Bean update? :laugh: Because another ICS update would be 6.1.B... NOT 6.1.1.B
Suggestions?
p.s.: Still waiting for ICS.
This just means we could not root our phone with locked BL.
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As post above, it might be ics because it will be released in October
Send from Xperia P
Yeah, but strangely enough the same firmware has been certified for the Xperia P as well (already has ICS, firmwarenumber 6.1.B.0.544
So maybe it is Jelly Bean?
Don't think so but since when it isn't allowed to dream a little bit
maybe...
it is just waiting
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it is just waiting
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definitely not jellybean.
martin255 said:
I just saw this on PTCRB. 6.1.1.B.1.10 version firmware certified for the Xperia U (ST25i).
Could this be a Jelly Bean update? :laugh: Because another ICS update would be 6.1.B... NOT 6.1.1.B
Suggestions?
p.s.: Still waiting for ICS.
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I think that it is a Jelly Bean release.
But remember that even though it has been tested by ptcrb, is there no guarantee that this build is going to get released.
So even though a Jelly Bean release may be undergoing testing at the moment, could the next release be a ICS or even a GB release.
Sony (nor any other company) would release the latest OS to their entry level handsets and ignore their flagship models, That's a REALLY bad plan for keeping your customers happy....
You can bet the Jellybean will rollout will happen simultaneously (very unlikely)
Or...
High end: Xperia T/S/SL/AcroHD
Followed by Mid Range: Xperia P
Finally Entry Level: Xperia U
Xperia P, U, go and sola
Well it's being prepared for a number handsets:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/09/2...tified-for-xperia-p-u-go-and-sola/#more-10186
I doubt it's JB - Sony has not mentioned it, what manufacturer does that? They said ICS is incoming...though I agree with others - perhaps it is JB but to be released much later?
I had a 2010 and 2011 Sony device. The 2011 Sony device had a slight delay to ICS - which was eventually 4.04 I think - it was an improvement on the ICS they had already released for other 2011 devices - they fixed bugs. So perhaps our round of devices will get the updated, bug-fixed version of ICS also?
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Xperia P, U, go and sola
Well it's being prepared for a number handsets:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/09/2...tified-for-xperia-p-u-go-and-sola/#more-10186
I doubt it's JB - Sony has not mentioned it, what manufacturer does that? They said ICS is incoming...though I agree with others - perhaps it is JB but to be released much later?
I had a 2010 and 2011 Sony device. The 2011 Sony device had a slight delay to ICS - which was eventually 4.04 I think - it was an improvement on the ICS they had already released for other 2011 devices - they fixed bugs. So perhaps our round of devices will get the updated, bug-fixed version of ICS also?
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Sony mobile plans to release jellybean for its first phone tomorrow, so they are at least working on jellybean.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32021564&postcount=87
that will be to fast for sony though no news about jb on xperia p (if you check their site it has)
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Sony mobile plans to release jellybean for its first phone tomorrow, so they are at least working on jellybean.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32021564&postcount=87
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I was SOOOOOOO close to saying it's a typo - I have seen SO MANY websites makes typos on this stuff, including Sony phones, BUT this is a SONY website so it's true! Wow...
This changes things a bit then. So they have finished Jelly Bean enough to be releasing it's first phone on it, so it must be under testing for other phones? I'd imagine they'll do what they did with 2011 phones - guarantee all 2012 phones to get the next update, in this case, Jelly Bean. I hope the fact that they're working on this privately means they will make it as smooth as they can. I still can't stop thinking about O2 network in the UK NOT upgrading Sony phones to ICS "because the performance was so bad vs. Gingerbread".
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I was SOOOOOOO close to saying it's a typo - I have seen SO MANY websites makes typos on this stuff, including Sony phones, BUT this is a SONY website so it's true! Wow...
This changes things a bit then. So they have finished Jelly Bean enough to be releasing it's first phone on it, so it must be under testing for other phones? I'd imagine they'll do what they did with 2011 phones - guarantee all 2012 phones to get the next update, in this case, Jelly Bean. I hope the fact that they're working on this privately means they will make it as smooth as they can. I still can't stop thinking about O2 network in the UK NOT upgrading Sony phones to ICS "because the performance was so bad vs. Gingerbread".
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Yes it could be a typo... or at least that they are missing to add that Android 4.1 will first be ready when it is done...
Same goes for the version number, that is being tested on PTCRB, but it is most likely a version, that is tested, for a later release of jellybean, for our devices.
Anyway, jellybean is worth a wait, so if we could get jellybean in a month, would I prefer that, compared to getting ics now.
It may be JB... but I don't expect it will be JB but a nearly perfect ICS firmware
edit: it is just a big ics update, got it from inside info
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Sony: The whole 2011 Xperia lineup (which got updated to ICS) will not be getting Jelly Bean because Sony "would not be able to guarantee owners of these smartphones the user experience you expect and we demand".
source:http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_announces_which_xperia_phones_will_get_jelly_bean-news-4970.php
Bad news but as expected... They can make a firm for Xperia J but not for similar phones like Neo/Arc/S, what a waste of money in software departments...
It's really bad news for us. However, Could we request them for Camera Lib for JB?
No Brain inside Sony software development departament....
Agreed
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Sony guys are just pulling a cheap stunt..how could the hardware go out of date in one year...they guarantee a good user experience in just a year? What sort of a trickery is this...Anyway...Root and enjoy...that's better than what Sony would offer anyway
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hahaha, thats why they must put us in there, but sony make good choises in that way, i understand why are they dont update 2011 devices maybe to much trouble etc, see but im always a sony user, they have good products, but sony have less bugs and not so much as by samsubg, htc or lg and more off that phones, so they trully thinking about it
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Sony guys are just pulling a cheap stunt..how could the hardware go out of date in one year...they guarantee a good user experience in just a year? What sort of a trickery is this...Anyway...Root and enjoy...that's better than what Sony would offer anyway
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Don't you get it.Sony's main target is to make money.This is a business after all.Besides 2011 models are outdated now,be happy that they gave us a stable ICS fw(unlike lg,samsung even htc who abandoned most of their 2011 mid end lineups in ICS update).Their main target must be improving and selling more 2012 series and upcoming 2013 xperia models and that's what Sony should target on if they ever want to be a giant in smart phone business-not updating every 2011 model !
Man I was really Hopping for JB
Well, When JB comes to any Xperia hopefully our Friendly Developers in Xda will port it in our device ^_^
i'am not surprised at all ! cost saving is essential for a business
anyway i use the official ROM cuz i get the clearbass and some Sony apps
once a JB ROM has those features ported i'll jump straight to it XD
maybe we'll have to wait until Xperia J get some beans
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4930&idPhone2=3734
BIG LOL for the xperia J getting JB, even the cpu and gpu are worst!
dioggo92 said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4930&idPhone2=3734
BIG LOL if xperia J get JB, even the cpu and gpu are worst!
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Neo and Neo V is better then Xperia J. LOL
so i dont understand Sony in that opinion to bring JB to Xperia J instead of Neo/Neo V
but indeed who am i
Pandemic said:
Neo and Neo V is better then Xperia J. LOL
so i dont understand Sony in that opinion to bring JB to Xperia J instead of Neo/Neo V
but indeed who am i
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That's why i said that Sony need some brain in the software development departament
It's nothing new...Sony must focus on 2012 and the upcoming 2013 Xperia series. However,i'm happy with stock rom (debloated),few mods and apps from Xperia T and 587 fw. It's very smooth and i always have 150-160 mb of free RAM. I've tried CM10 and PACMAN roms,they're very good,but i hate the fact that phone is rebooting when view videos and also i miss the Bravia Engine,because,let's be honest,without Bravia Engine,the Xperias display sucks when viewing videos (at least for me).But the explanation from Sony why the 2011 series is not getting JB,is hilarious (i mean let's compare the Arc S with Xperia J :laugh. However,i think that next year i'll change my Neo with an Xperia V.
Bad News... Anyways Why you post a new thread when we have THIS Android 4.1 Jelly Bean [DISCUSS THREAD]
georgeiulian89 said:
It's nothing new...Sony must focus on 2012 and the upcoming 2013 Xperia series. However,i'm happy with stock rom (debloated),few mods and apps from Xperia T and 587 fw. It's very smooth and i always have 150-160 mb of free RAM. I've tried CM10 and PACMAN roms,they're very good,but i hate the fact that phone is rebooting when view videos and also i miss the Bravia Engine,because,let's be honest,without Bravia Engine,the Xperias display sucks when viewing videos (at least for me).But the explanation from Sony why the 2011 series is not getting JB,is hilarious (i mean let's compare the Arc S with Xperia J :laugh. However,i think that next year i'll change my Neo with an Xperia V.
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Just160mb of free RAM? Man I get 200MB with Stock
I think They just wanna Attract Customer and sell this Xperia J by Offering JB.
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Just160mb of free RAM? Man I get 200MB with Stock
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I didn't removed everything,i've removed just few useless apps (i've kept fb inside xperia). Beside this,i'm not using the phone for gaming,so,for me is more than enough.And you have 200 mb all the time,or just when you turn on the phone? i have 150-160 all the time.However,before debloating i was having just about 90-100 mb lol
As for me I will move to Apple. Not because their updates to all phones, but because the app devs in android will left many of us. Jelly Bean ask for 60 fps, most of the biggest devs, are working to reach this level. Then, after a few months I will be not suprise with I see an app exclusively for JB. One thing in my defense to move to Apple, Chrome. Chrome is a google app, in IOS even a 3GS can get it. But Here at least ICS. Another example? Snapssed. Snapseed bought by Google, wonderfull app, it works in 3GS, 4, 4S and 5, but for us, it needs at least tegra 2. So, I am leaving, it was good and wonderfull time here with everybody, but I got stressed about it. Every year, this same story and I did not learn. Always buying android phones, and now I found me exactly in the same disgusting situation. I will not try to use custom roms, though I know how to put it in my phone, because even the great effort , they are still buggy. I am not arguing, but it is the truth. Many will say that ICS is enough for me, yes, until now is more than enough. But knowing how android is, soon will be not enough.
So friends I will stay here until sell my Xperia Neo and buy an Iphone 4. After that Goodbye.
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Don't you get it.Sony's main target is to make money.This is a business after all.Besides 2011 models are outdated now,be happy that they gave us a stable ICS fw(unlike lg,samsung even htc who abandoned most of their 2011 mid end lineups in ICS update).Their main target must be improving and selling more 2012 series and upcoming 2013 xperia models and that's what Sony should target on if they ever want to be a giant in smart phone business-not updating every 2011 model !
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with all due respect but I do not think we should rejoice because both have almost the entire line 2011 with ics, I see the hand of everyone being equal in hardware. but for me it's the least we would have to be done to win customers since bought by the promise of neo v ics, however icebug got a way with ginger. because it gave us the applications "nxt"? if not for the developers .... Samsung has updated the s2 was minimal upgrade at least the arc / s
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georgeiulian89 said:
It's nothing new...Sony must focus on 2012 and the upcoming 2013 Xperia series. However,i'm happy with stock rom (debloated),few mods and apps from Xperia T and 587 fw. It's very smooth and i always have 150-160 mb of free RAM. I've tried CM10 and PACMAN roms,they're very good,but i hate the fact that phone is rebooting when view videos and also i miss the Bravia Engine,because,let's be honest,without Bravia Engine,the Xperias display sucks when viewing videos (at least for me).But the explanation from Sony why the 2011 series is not getting JB,is hilarious (i mean let's compare the Arc S with Xperia J :laugh. However,i think that next year i'll change my Neo with an Xperia V.
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U should try the new pacman ROM...its uber fast...has every concivable thing working and leaves oodles of RAM and free memory...and anyway, as soon as they release the official JB, i guess all the ROMs out there will be able to extract the required libraries and port them over to make the custom ROMs stable...that's what happened with ICS too
jelly bean
y beg sony , lets go with cm 10
Hey, I just found out that Sony wont provide us with a Jellybean update:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/product...rades-jelly-bean-for-2012-xperia-smartphones/
This is really bad, because they promised 18 months of updates, and thats one of the main reasons why I did buy this phone, so no more Sony phones for me after this phone.
Sad
hate sony!:banghead:
i don't see the problem... why not use the JB custom roms?
I love PAC
seriously?
They said they would support us at least 18/24 months not up to
Guess custom ones will have to do.
anhmat122 said:
hate sony!:banghead:
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1+ on that, Im talking to sony now about exchanging my phone
They lied on us !
Bad brand...
Sent from my Xperia Ray using xda app-developers app
I found it not surprising for Sony doing that. They're late to the game now even for flagship devices.
Most of consumers not even want the update or know about it, only us screaming and crying is not enough force. And most of consumers will screaming and crying with update broke their device so rom need to be bug free to release, it cost a lot sop they dont bother.
I personal think Sony should have 'for experimental testing only' rom release without any warranty when they can not release the official one, I'm sure it take much less effort and can satisfy the community at good-enough level.
foggyflute said:
I found it not surprising for Sony doing that. They're late to the game now even for flagship devices.
Most of consumers not even want the update or know about it, only us screaming and crying is not enough force. And most of consumers will screaming and crying with update broke their device so rom need to be bug free to release, it cost a lot sop they dont bother.
I personal think Sony should have 'for experimental testing only' rom release without any warranty when they can not release the official one, I'm sure it take much less effort and can satisfy the community at good-enough level.
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not expect Xperia 2011 to 4.1 but still disappointed with sony
Yes it sucks... no official JB for all 2011 devices
will xs get JB?
It's a flagship one.
Sony Mobile has this morning confirmed that Android 4.1 Jelly Bean for its new Xperia devices (Xperia T, Xperia TX and Xperia V) will start to receive the update from the middle of Q1 2013. Sony Xperia devices that launched earlier this year including the Xperia S, Xperia acro S, Xperia ion, Xperia P, Xperia go and Xperia J will be upgraded to Android 4.1 in “due course”. Looks like Xperia miro, Xperia tipo, Xperia tipo dual, Xperia sola and Xperia U users are excluded.
We suspect that the JB launch for the other 2012 Xperia models could take as long as early Q2 2013, given that no concrete information has been given. It’s hard not to commend Sony Mobile for updating many of its mid-range handsets along with their higher-end models. However, Xperia sola and Xperia U owners will rightfully be arguing why they won’t be seeing the update. It’s certainly not a question of hardware specification.
- from xperiablog -
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Dont hold your breath.
dreezz said:
i don't see the problem... why not use the JB custom roms?
I love PAC
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Well, the problem is that unlocked bootloader is an obligatory requirement for using JB custom ROMs. The point of expecting official JB from SONY is because devs. could get official drivers too, so they could cook ROMs for locked and unlocked bootloaders... Or at least that's what I think. There are some people who just can't or don't want to unlock the bootloader, one of them is me.
The reason why I bought a Ray is because I'm (somehow) a SONY fan. In fact, I was going to buy Neo but in the SONY store in my city they didn't have it in stock anymore, so I liked Ray and I got it. Their handsets are beautiful and reliable on their performance. A friend of mine has a Galaxy Ace and that phone is terrible, he has problems with his modem in his house, the phone doesn't connect to it (my Ray does without problems). Plus, no ICS ROMS for it. My business partner has a Samsung Galaxy SII and that piece of s**t is busted, it shows that is charging battery when the phone isn't even plugged! And it doesn't last more than 5 hours...
SONY (and SE) phones have never gave me that kind of problems. But yeah, it's really lame not getting JB, I guess SONY devs weren't smart enough to make project butter to work fine in 2011 line, or it's because all the damn bloatware they want to push affected the performance at the point the phone was a total slowpoke.Or, it's a lame strategy, getting ride of your current device to get a 2012, or even a 2013 one. Whatever is the reason, this is a bad new and a low move from SONY.
Personally, I was going to get Xperia V, but with the rumored prototypes (Odin and Yuga) I'd rather to wait, my Ray still has so much to give and when I get a new phone I want to feel I'm getting a real big upgrade.
Or I dunno, maybe the next Nexus isn't from Samsung anymore... I'd give it a chance
Doesn't matter.... its like we are sticking with a 1ghz phone for a long time since there a cheap dual core phones out there... so I guess its okay and who cares about jb on a 3.3 inch phone
dreezz said:
i don't see the problem... why not use the JB custom roms?
I love PAC
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The problem is that custom rom cookers don't have the latest libs for the HDMI and camera, for example, so they can't get them to work properly or at all. And while Sony has released all the libs for the Xperia S to the custom community, they won't do that for the Xperia 2011 line. So, no official nor unofficial solution for getting a 100% usable JB, though the handsets are fully capable of running it even better than ICS.
It's no possible for devs export it from XS?
I think XS will have jellybean or not?
sony must see thread [WIP][ROM][JB 4.1.2][Pa+Aokp+Cm] P.A.C All in 1 ROM !!!!!! Jellybean alpha, its 992 replies and 142.577 views, it's shows how love customers like they device
paolinhos said:
It's no possible for devs export it from XS?
I think XS will have jellybean or not?
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Nop: the Xperia S has a different hardware.