Has anyone got any news if Sony is going to release the ICS update they promised in the early of April? As they promised other Xperia 2011 phones ICS will be coming to them end of March, it doesn't look likely that XMP will be getting ICS soon? Has anyone got some recent news?
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Has anyone got any news if Sony is going to release the ICS update they promised in the early of April? As they promised other Xperia 2011 phones ICS will be coming to them end of March, it doesn't look likely that XMP will be getting ICS soon? Has anyone got some recent news?
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http://blogs.sonymobile.com/products/2012/03/30/the-vans-around-the-corner-android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-software-upgrade-coming-to-2011-xperia-smartphones-starting-from-mid-april/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-vans-around-the-corner-android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-software-upgrade-coming-to-2011-xperia-smartphones-starting-from-mid-april said:
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The first Xperia models to receive the upgrade will be Xperia arc S, Xperia neo V and Xperia ray. For these first models, the rollout will start mid-April and continue over 4-6 weeks.*
Following on, Xperia arc, Xperia PLAY, Xperia neo, Xperia mini, Xperia mini pro, Xperia pro, Xperia active and Sony Ericsson Live with Walkman will receive their scoop starting from the end of May/early June.*
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*The availability and scheduling of this software upgrade and specific models upgradeable to Android 4.0 will vary by market and carrier requirements.
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Xperia mini, mini pro and Live with Walkman only getting ICS by end of May and beggining of June.
Damn it, Sony.
A bit of looking in the General section...I didn't post this long ago
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572875
Well you probably read it around the same time so it's an easy mistake.
Yeah, 1 month delay. Looking at the beta roms (official) I'm confused about what the UI will be on the Mini/Pro. Will we have the ICS blue icons throughout, continue the SE UI, or a mix? I've seen a mix of all that on the betas available. I have loved almost every UI design SE has done. BUT I do NOT like much of the new Sony UI. Some of their phone designs are nice and unique, but I do NOT like their UI, I don't want it.
I just noticed that one of the final big features missing in the custom 4.0 roms has been fixed: the camera. Now I'm happy to download a custom 4.0, especially given the delay.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434001
I'm also really confused about many things.
First Sony said that the update was planed for end of April/Begging of may, now they are just delaying it
Also, I've never seen a beta ROM or a screenshot of the Timescape UI for smaller phones for ICS.
So disappointed....I flashed stocked ROM and relock bootloader just to update to official ICS update but now I have to wait till end of May or even beginning of June....WTF SONY??!!?!
Sony just delays the update in 1 months so we can have our fun time with the custom ROMs around
Update was delayed because of 3rd party certifications, maybe because they were busy in certifying Samsung and htc roms. 1 months isn't that long BTW.
1 month is not long at all. Should i remind you that the Xperia Pro (not the mini pro) was delayed around 8 months?
Besides, what is all the hype with ICS? You wont realise what is going under the hood, the UI will be exactly the same as it is now... Just because it is new doesn't mean its better, most of the times. Remember the bugs 4.0.3 had? the Changelog for 4.0.4 has some hundreds of changes to it from 4.0.3... So yea...
Sony have delayed the release of the ICS for the Arc S, Ray etc to mid april... So i guess we will have to wait a whole lot longer, more like mid june or something...
May be you should try some unofficial builds....
AOSP build by kamarush is really stable and i am using it on a daily basis... well xcept for hd recording...
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That's exactly why I've started with the custom roms for this phone. Stock SE runs perfectly, obviously so I didn't want to leave it until custom 4.0 were v stable. My fav is this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1554996&page=26
i really like the default ics UI.. so i picked up the custom ICS build by kamarush and expeacer. stable enough now for daily use.
Mid april??? I don't think so,after two weeks SONY give us new release date
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''Sony Ericsson has in an official blog post announced that the first upgrades from late March / early April will be disseminated. This will be the upgrades for the Xperia arc S, neo V and ray. From late April / early May, the upgrades for the Xperia arc, neo, PLAY, Mini (Pro), active and pro spread. Why a distinction is made is not clear, but it may have to do with relieving the servers, or obtaining the appropriate approvals.''
(google translated from a dutch newsitem)
Yeeey
edit: The Blogpost
Seriously, Sony Ericsson, Y U LET NEO (and Arc) owners wait a month?
Hope our devs can port it.
I think that in march we will have very good ICS custom roms.
Waiting one month more is nothing. Most likely their neo and arc specific ICS will fit those models better. Especially camera drivers.
It doesn't take an extra month just to deal with the camera drivers.
they release new firmware for their newest devices first, thus hoping, that people will buy their newest devices to get their hands on ICS faster. it's all marketing.
I'm quite sure we'll get custom ROMs a lot earlier than May
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they release new firmware for their newest devices first, thus hoping, that people will buy their newest devices to get their hands on ICS faster. it's all marketing.
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But Xperia Pro MK16 is a new device. As far as I remember September - October 2011. Then why is it included in the oldies batch?
Ice Cream Sandwich coming to 2011 Xperia™ smartphones from end March/early April 2012
With the holiday season around the corner, we’re happy to confirm that the first 2011 Xperia™ smartphones will be upgraded to Android 4.0 starting from end March/early April 2012. The first smartphones to get the upgrade are Xperia™ arc S, Xperia™ neo V and Xperia™ ray. Soon after, starting from end April/early May, Xperia™ arc, Xperia™ PLAY, Xperia™ neo, Xperia™ mini and mini pro, Xperia™ pro, Xperia™ active as well as Sony Ericsson Live with Walkman™ will get their upgrades.
link:http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/
So 4-5 month for the update from that of SE getting it to final... That's pretty damn sad man...
Ether_Man said:
So 4-5 month for the update from that of SE getting it to final... That's pretty damn sad man...
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SE's already the most transparent OEM as far as the 4.0 update is concerned. They've already publicly released the alpha build for their ROM and they've been providing more updates on their progress than any other OEM. The release of the alpha build at this point in time (and Cyanogen's own estimate of 2 months) further bolsters what they and Motorola have been saying: the time-consuming part of OS updates isn't the coding, it's the certification (which Cyanogen doesn't have to deal with). Different policies and procedures across various bureaucracies (clearly) takes a lot of time.
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SE's already the most transparent OEM as far as the 4.0 update is concerned. They've already publicly released the alpha build for their ROM and they've been providing more updates on their progress than any other OEM. The release of the alpha build at this point in time (and Cyanogen's own estimate of 2 months) further bolsters what they and Motorola have been saying: the time-consuming part of OS updates isn't the coding, it's the certification (which Cyanogen doesn't have to deal with). Different policies and procedures across various bureaucracies (clearly) takes a lot of time.
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I know. I dont consider SE any worse than any other brand because of it... I just consider it really sad that it has to take so long between the release of the code until ANYONE gets the update.
Actually the galaxy s2 has a beta ics build (official) with pretty much everything working!
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Actually the galaxy s2 has a beta ics build (official) with pretty much everything working!
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Official? Where? I know there are 2 diffrent lines of unofficial ones. But have yet to see any official actual rom. Official confirmation that they are working on it yes. But find no official releases.
Hi, this may be a stupid question but will this update be applicable to all listed devices
regardless of where in the world and on what network they are sold?
rayray2 said:
Hi, this may be a stupid question but will this update be applicable to all listed devices
regardless of where in the world and on what network they are sold?
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You can be guaranteed that the carrier of choice will also delay the procedure something wicked as well.
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Users of HTC Sensation see already enjoying Leaked versions of ICS... HTC is far ahead of other companies... Their leaked version is 99% stable with 2 to 3 minor bugs which are not even noticeable..
Sony did it again!!!
They POSTPONED ICS to mid april.
The first Xperia models to receive the upgrade will be Xperia arc S, Xperia neo V and Xperia ray. For these first models, the rollout will start mid-April and continue over 4-6 weeks.*
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I slammed my fist on the keyboard the second i read that ~_~
If i do not get my ICS by the end of April 3rd week somebody gonna get hurt -_-
Real nice SONY ~_~
Qwerty123 \m/ said:
I slammed my fist on the keyboard the second i read that ~_~
If i do not get my ICS by the end of April 3rd week somebody gonna get hurt -_-
Real nice SONY ~_~
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I banged my head on my keyboard!!!
Calm down . You have an unlocked bootloader, just flash the beta. I've been using it since it came out, and everything's fine.
Must be really bad for those without unlocked bootloader. But I saw that the T.E.A.M. rom will bring some ICS features to gingerbread in the next update, like swipe to dismiss notification. Team rom doesn't require unlocked bootloader.
dhwanik said:
I banged my head on my keyboard!!!
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I banged myself on my keyboard!!!
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I banged myself on my keyboard!!!
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Poor keyboard
i,m using ICS JJ,s ROM as a daily driver without having an issues....
Relax guys,don't take it out on poor keyboards at least be happy that they are trying to make it smooth & bug free as possible,besides its just 2-3 weeks.We should be kinda thankful for the Sony dev team specially reading this.
Wth, i trow my phone away, always waiting -,-
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postpone about 3w is acceptable, hope sony will focus on future producr
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True there are difficulties BUT
What im saying is Sony is a big corp with 100+ employess *Maybe
Assuming each Phone may have atleast 5devs working together everyday from 9am-4/5pm
They can easily put together a ROM
Yes the signing takes LOTS of time but with the resources they have at hand they cann pull of things at amazingly fast rates
NOW
Compare it to our devs here
Especially CM9
They take the basic SDK and port it to like so many devices !
Yes the signing part of GPS and blah is not done as it isnt required but if them devs with limited resources can pull it off
SONY sould have no problem
Our devs took ICS beta and turned it into a masterpiece !
Sony should've released the final within lets say 2-2.5 weeks after release
Im disappointed >_<
I mean no offence to anyone, its just my thought
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True there are difficulties BUT
What im saying is Sony is a big corp with 100+ employess *Maybe
Assuming each Phone may have atleast 5devs working together everyday from 9am-4/5pm
They can easily put together a ROM
Yes the signing takes LOTS of time but with the resources they have at hand they cann pull of things at amazingly fast rates
NOW
Compare it to our devs here
Especially CM9
They take the basic SDK and port it to like so many devices !
Yes the signing part of GPS and blah is not done as it isnt required but if them devs with limited resources can pull it off
SONY sould have no problem
Our devs took ICS beta and turned it into a masterpiece !
Sony should've released the final within lets say 2-2.5 weeks after release
Im disappointed >_<
I mean no offence to anyone, its just my thought
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That's all true in theory. Not in the real world. People tend to do their hobbies way better than their job.
You got a point there ^
Agreed
But they- Employees,getting paid $$$
4.1.A.0.562 fw
what about 4.1.A.0.562 fw
it's certified for neo_v via ptcrb
can be ics based ?
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what about 4.1.A.0.562 fw
it's certified for neo_v via ptcrb
can be ics based ?
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that could be ICS or better yet if sony cannot release ICS then they should release GB 2.3.7 on 2011 Xperia as a token of abandoning ICS on 2011 xperia phones.
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that could be ICS or better yet if sony cannot release ICS then they should release GB 2.3.7 on 2011 Xperia as a token of abandoning ICS on 2011 xperia phones.
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I think it's ics based
only Xperia arc S, Xperia neo V and Xperia ray got that 4.1.A.0.562 fw via ptcrb
sony told The first Xperia models to receive the upgrade will be Xperia arc S, Xperia neo V and Xperia ray
and ics beta rom version numbering starts with 4.1 and it's also starts 4.1
%99 it's ics based and hope so
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only Xperia arc S, Xperia neo V and Xperia ray got that 4.1.A.0.562 fw via ptcrb
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arc also got that fw.
DrearierJester1 said:
that could be ICS or better yet if sony cannot release ICS then they should release GB 2.3.7 on 2011 Xperia as a token of abandoning ICS on 2011 xperia phones.
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That'd be pointless
Give us 2.3.7 and after a week 4.0 ?
At least give us 4.0.4
Wouldnt really be surprised if the xperia range gets ICS around August. Its that Eclair incident all over again. But idgaf, really, with CM9 almost a couple of builds.
DrearierJester1 said:
that could be ICS or better yet if sony cannot release ICS then they should release GB 2.3.7 on 2011 Xperia as a token of abandoning ICS on 2011 xperia phones.
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I really don't think they will abandon 2011 range Xperia's with ICS after all advertising they did(come on even boxes came with ICS upgradable sticker ),they will give it but will advice customers not to upgrade like they did in their latest blog post,maybe just maybe a 2.3.7 update too will come in the corner for people who decided not to upgrade.Hope they will go to 4.0.4 instead 4.0.3 these can be few last updates we get for 2011 range :/
John Cooper, UK Product Manager for Sony Mobile, has been taking questions from customers on Facebook and, perhaps inadvertently, revealed that both the Sony Ericsson Xperia arc S and Xperia mini pro will not receive the Android 4.1 Jelly Bean update.
We have been waiting for Sony to make an official statement on their Jelly Bean upgrade plans and this is the first concrete news we have on the matter. The Xperia arc S was the highest specced 2011 Sony Xperia handset, so if this handset isn’t getting it we can conclude that none of the other Xperia handsets from the 2011 range will get the update either. However, the 2012 Xperia range do look likely to get the update, although timing remains an unknown right now.
Its funny that many of the 2012 Xperia handsets have lower specs than the 2011 models. It sux! anw, we can hope for a developer to port JB for 2011 Xperia lineup. & Cynomod10 is coming with JB
Credit goes to www.xperiablog.net
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/07/26/official-2011-sony-xperia-handsets-will-not-get-android-4-1-jelly-bean/
They have made a mistake
Xperia 2011 handets should have had that minor upgrade to Jelly Bean, especially given the performance issues. Also, it means those handsets are stuck permanently on 2.6 Linux kernel, unless one goes the custom ROMs way. Thankfully, Cyanogenmod devs are supporting Xperia Mini Pro, so I am starting on a quest to root my SK17i.
Jelly Bean would be slow on our phones if official update was done. Sony will push own Timescape UI inside instead of Butter UI, so we don't get any performance improvements in UI.
It's a shame, but it was expected...
Yeah, i also expect 2012 xperias will probably get Jelly Bean update around this time next year (+/- couple months), just before Key Lime Pie comes out
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Jelly Bean would be slow on our phones if official update was done. Sony will push own Timescape UI inside instead of Butter UI, so we don't get any performance improvements in UI.
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but google successfully made JB for nexus S right? it has the same specs as the xperia 2011 lineup sooo sad
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Jelly Bean would be slow on our phones if official update was done. Sony will push own Timescape UI inside instead of Butter UI, so we don't get any performance improvements in UI.
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I wonder....
does anyone remember Xperia x10i? the funniest was they came from Donut 1.6 to GingerBread 2.3. they've got 3 official FW update.. and me guess we still have a chance.. Our device is not low range since we have 512 ram inside. and some of Xperia 2012 family also have the same type.
I was expecting this. They won't update 2011 xperia phones to JB. But they will update 2012 xperias. If I buy another phone, it won't be a Sony. Maybe a Nexus 7 but not a Sony. I was very disappointed with the ICS update. Can't imagine a JB for our phones, maybe to slow...
Long live to Gingerbread! xD
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Jelly Bean would be slow on our phones if official update was done. Sony will push own Timescape UI inside instead of Butter UI, so we don't get any performance improvements in UI.
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I dont't think Timescape has anything to do with Butter
Anyway, I'm not surprised, but they could change their minds if community presses them enough. As I remember, HTC upgraded Desire to GB even though they said phone was underpowered (for sense bloatware).
I smell some "business politic" here from sony.
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I wasn't really expecting that our 2011 Xperia phones would get 4.1. But I'm going to flash a custom rom when it's available
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who cares about their update...cyanogenmod 10 alpha has rolled out..have to tell its much more faster than GB..wait for fue for days l get the beta version of bug free ...just waiting to get beta cm10.
The thing is that to be able to create stable custom roms you need support from the manufacturer. Without proper source code or hardware drivers/libraries that suit the new OS developers have to tack everything together which greatly increases the chances of bugs.
IMHO the least thing Sony could do is provide a proper hardware layer to developers to give them a solid base to work from. Nobody really needs the Sony customisations anyway so they could actually save a lot of development time there.
Personally I'd wish all android phones came with AOSP, like what Apple and Microsoft do. It saves the manufacturers a lot of development and opens the way for more frequent/longer OS updates.
All hope of custom rom
**** Sony, where's Ericsson when we need him?
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The thing is that to be able to create stable custom roms you need support from the manufacturer. Without proper source code or hardware drivers/libraries that suit the new OS developers have to tack everything together which greatly increases the chances of bugs.
IMHO the least thing Sony could do is provide a proper hardware layer to developers to give them a solid base to work from. Nobody really needs the Sony customisations anyway so they could actually save a lot of development time there.
Personally I'd wish all android phones came with AOSP, like what Apple and Microsoft do. It saves the manufacturers a lot of development and opens the way for more frequent/longer OS updates.
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Correct.
Nicely Explained Brother:good:
Here is example!
1.Bravia Engine wont work without proper supported lib files
2.Same will happen with xLoud
But we can force SONY to give us JB update
If majority of all the customers keep on telling them about the update for 2011 Family, after all customers are the only strength of any COMPANY
What say guys?
Yeah yeah yeah! As what I have expected from SONY!
Come on guys! This isnt the first time so stop relying on this b*llsh*t company. We have the developers here and they are even better than those "INCOMPETENT" developers from Sony.
So stop crying over spilled milk and just wait for JB port to our devices :good:
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Come on guys! This isnt the first time so stop relying on this b*llsh*t company. We have the developers here and they are even better than those "INCOMPETENT" developers from Sony.
So stop crying over spilled milk and just wait for JB port to our devices :good:
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Well... There is
And i agree, Not only the developers here are better, they also keep updating us with Alpha, Nightly and Beta builds all the time, and they're also open for suggestions
I don't know why people keel slagging off Sony as a company?
Personally I buy an SE phone for the hardware (who else makes a tiny phone with a useable hardware keyboard?) while knowing you can optimise the thing to personal taste by modding the firmware and using apps.
As for updates the Mini Pro got 200% of what it's predecessor got (the X10 Mini Pro which only got Eclair).
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very sad news for xperia 2011 series, but im now testing CyanogenMod10 Alpha rom in lww but its have lot of bugs hope it will fix soon
And I was right! 4.1 probably coming after all!
We are actively investigating Android OS upgrades for all devices, but in the meantime, our Ice Cream Sandwich rollout for Xperia S and 2011 Xperia smartphones continues as planned.
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Hey, I just found out that Sony wont provide us with a Jellybean update:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/product...rades-jelly-bean-for-2012-xperia-smartphones/
This is really bad, because they promised 18 months of updates, and thats one of the main reasons why I did buy this phone, so no more Sony phones for me after this phone.
Sad
hate sony!:banghead:
i don't see the problem... why not use the JB custom roms?
I love PAC
seriously?
They said they would support us at least 18/24 months not up to
Guess custom ones will have to do.
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hate sony!:banghead:
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1+ on that, Im talking to sony now about exchanging my phone
They lied on us !
Bad brand...
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I found it not surprising for Sony doing that. They're late to the game now even for flagship devices.
Most of consumers not even want the update or know about it, only us screaming and crying is not enough force. And most of consumers will screaming and crying with update broke their device so rom need to be bug free to release, it cost a lot sop they dont bother.
I personal think Sony should have 'for experimental testing only' rom release without any warranty when they can not release the official one, I'm sure it take much less effort and can satisfy the community at good-enough level.
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I found it not surprising for Sony doing that. They're late to the game now even for flagship devices.
Most of consumers not even want the update or know about it, only us screaming and crying is not enough force. And most of consumers will screaming and crying with update broke their device so rom need to be bug free to release, it cost a lot sop they dont bother.
I personal think Sony should have 'for experimental testing only' rom release without any warranty when they can not release the official one, I'm sure it take much less effort and can satisfy the community at good-enough level.
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not expect Xperia 2011 to 4.1 but still disappointed with sony
Yes it sucks... no official JB for all 2011 devices
will xs get JB?
It's a flagship one.
Sony Mobile has this morning confirmed that Android 4.1 Jelly Bean for its new Xperia devices (Xperia T, Xperia TX and Xperia V) will start to receive the update from the middle of Q1 2013. Sony Xperia devices that launched earlier this year including the Xperia S, Xperia acro S, Xperia ion, Xperia P, Xperia go and Xperia J will be upgraded to Android 4.1 in “due course”. Looks like Xperia miro, Xperia tipo, Xperia tipo dual, Xperia sola and Xperia U users are excluded.
We suspect that the JB launch for the other 2012 Xperia models could take as long as early Q2 2013, given that no concrete information has been given. It’s hard not to commend Sony Mobile for updating many of its mid-range handsets along with their higher-end models. However, Xperia sola and Xperia U owners will rightfully be arguing why they won’t be seeing the update. It’s certainly not a question of hardware specification.
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Dont hold your breath.
dreezz said:
i don't see the problem... why not use the JB custom roms?
I love PAC
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Well, the problem is that unlocked bootloader is an obligatory requirement for using JB custom ROMs. The point of expecting official JB from SONY is because devs. could get official drivers too, so they could cook ROMs for locked and unlocked bootloaders... Or at least that's what I think. There are some people who just can't or don't want to unlock the bootloader, one of them is me.
The reason why I bought a Ray is because I'm (somehow) a SONY fan. In fact, I was going to buy Neo but in the SONY store in my city they didn't have it in stock anymore, so I liked Ray and I got it. Their handsets are beautiful and reliable on their performance. A friend of mine has a Galaxy Ace and that phone is terrible, he has problems with his modem in his house, the phone doesn't connect to it (my Ray does without problems). Plus, no ICS ROMS for it. My business partner has a Samsung Galaxy SII and that piece of s**t is busted, it shows that is charging battery when the phone isn't even plugged! And it doesn't last more than 5 hours...
SONY (and SE) phones have never gave me that kind of problems. But yeah, it's really lame not getting JB, I guess SONY devs weren't smart enough to make project butter to work fine in 2011 line, or it's because all the damn bloatware they want to push affected the performance at the point the phone was a total slowpoke.Or, it's a lame strategy, getting ride of your current device to get a 2012, or even a 2013 one. Whatever is the reason, this is a bad new and a low move from SONY.
Personally, I was going to get Xperia V, but with the rumored prototypes (Odin and Yuga) I'd rather to wait, my Ray still has so much to give and when I get a new phone I want to feel I'm getting a real big upgrade.
Or I dunno, maybe the next Nexus isn't from Samsung anymore... I'd give it a chance
Doesn't matter.... its like we are sticking with a 1ghz phone for a long time since there a cheap dual core phones out there... so I guess its okay and who cares about jb on a 3.3 inch phone
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i don't see the problem... why not use the JB custom roms?
I love PAC
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The problem is that custom rom cookers don't have the latest libs for the HDMI and camera, for example, so they can't get them to work properly or at all. And while Sony has released all the libs for the Xperia S to the custom community, they won't do that for the Xperia 2011 line. So, no official nor unofficial solution for getting a 100% usable JB, though the handsets are fully capable of running it even better than ICS.
It's no possible for devs export it from XS?
I think XS will have jellybean or not?
sony must see thread [WIP][ROM][JB 4.1.2][Pa+Aokp+Cm] P.A.C All in 1 ROM !!!!!! Jellybean alpha, its 992 replies and 142.577 views, it's shows how love customers like they device
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It's no possible for devs export it from XS?
I think XS will have jellybean or not?
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Nop: the Xperia S has a different hardware.