I reviewed all the threads but can't resolve the information I need to plan next step!
I want to revert back to stock since I am experiencing battery drain (I believe).
I did not root or unlock before using the OTG (thumbdrive) method for insrtalling the OTA 4.5.91 zip.
After finding out that was ill advised I did not unlock and left unrooted. I have been out of town and can't backtrack throught the threads to determine what is the best course.
Is there a concise thread for my situation?
Thanks in advance
If you want to confirm your status, please adb, su, and "cat /sys/firmware/fuse/ReservedOdm" or just open the file in Root Explorer. If you see something like:
10000000000010001000300004000
Then you should NOT SBF anything from Motorola"
If you want to post your ReservedOdm to look and see if you will be fine to SBF 1.83 again
Probably you are safe if you actually installed Kenth by CDW or moto-fastboot (boot.img and system.img)
But if you actually run the update.zip or any update trought the normal android recovery screen and if you saw the following legend "updating AP20 bootloader" in that case you CAN NOT flash any SBF from Motorola
JiminSD said:
I reviewed all the threads but can't resolve the information I need to plan next step!
I want to revert back to stock since I am experiencing battery drain (I believe).
I did not root or unlock before using the OTG (thumbdrive) method for insrtalling the OTA 4.5.91 zip.
After finding out that was ill advised I did not unlock and left unrooted. I have been out of town and can't backtrack throught the threads to determine what is the best course.
Is there a concise thread for my situation?
Thanks in advance
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mramirezusa said:
If you want to confirm your status, please adb, su, and "cat /sys/firmware/fuse/ReservedOdm" or just open the file in Root Explorer. If you see something like:
10000000000010001000300004000
Then you should NOT SBF anything from Motorola"
If you want to post your ReservedOdm to look and see if you will be fine to SBF 1.83 again
Probably you are safe if you actually installed Kenth by CDW or moto-fastboot (boot.img and system.img)
But if you actually run the update.zip or any update trought the normal android recovery screen and if you saw the following legend "updating AP20 bootloader" in that case you CAN NOT flash any SBF from Motorola
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Thanks I am sure I can't flash rsd sbf, I am wondering if it is safe to root. I am not rooted nor unlocked.
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Yes it is safe to root. I am on 4.5.91 and can't flash back. I un locked rooted and installed CWM. With no issues. Wouldnt use .sbf flashes though.
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If you want to confirm your status, please adb, su, and "cat /sys/firmware/fuse/ReservedOdm" or just open the file in Root Explorer. If you see something like:
10000000000010001000300004000
Then you should NOT SBF anything from Motorola"
If you want to post your ReservedOdm to look and see if you will be fine to SBF 1.83 again
Probably you are safe if you actually installed Kenth by CDW or moto-fastboot (boot.img and system.img)
But if you actually run the update.zip or any update trought the normal android recovery screen and if you saw the following legend "updating AP20 bootloader" in that case you CAN NOT flash any SBF from Motorola
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I am on KP's 4.5.91 beta 3...........When I look at this file I have :
10000000000010001000100004000
Now KP's version of 4.5.91 is supposed to be safe to flash back and go ahead with Moto updates. If I follow what you are saying, it cannot be done?
CaelanT said:
I am on KP's 4.5.91 beta 3...........When I look at this file I have :
10000000000010001000100004000
Now KP's version of 4.5.91 is supposed to be safe to flash back and go ahead with Moto updates. If I follow what you are saying, it cannot be done?
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10000000000010001000100004000
ok here it is:
10000000000010001000100004000
4= BL "unlock" did you ever unlock you BL with pudding?
0= BL lock
10000000000010001000100004000
1=NO UPDATE BL TO AP20 Ver. , so you applied GB by moto-fastboot process or by CDW
3=YOU HAVE A NEW BL AP20 Ver., so you indeed applied GB OTA by Android Recovery from the sdcard
so in other words the ones we are in "confirmed" brick land if we RSD any MOTOROLA SBF are the ones with "3"
So you seem you indeed apply unlock bootloader (please confirm?) but you never applied GB OTA by Android Recover update.zip, and as you already confirm you applied GB Kenneth version by CDW or moto-fastboot.
CaelanT said:
I am on KP's 4.5.91 beta 3...........When I look at this file I have :
10000000000010001000100004000
Now KP's version of 4.5.91 is supposed to be safe to flash back and go ahead with Moto updates. If I follow what you are saying, it cannot be done?
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Status
1. Locked and rooted phone
2. I ran 1.2.6 sbf with RSD to return to a stock build
3. I unrooted phone
4. I ran OTA 1.8.3
5. I ran the Motorola Build 4.5.91 "not KP's" with Motorola cable from update.zip through USB flash drive
6. "Stopped Here" this is my current state
Unfortunately I did not use KP's version, and I don't know how to check for blown fuses since I haven't rooted and did not flash pudding "stopped after flashing OTA for fear of bricking" . I believe I have read that some have installed pudding from my current state to with a recoverable softbrick and then used fast booted flashing img of 1.8.3.
can anybody verify doing this safely? Sorry if this thread is repetitive but there is much confusion in here and I was gone two days from the forum when this all was taking place.
Much appreciated.
JiminSD I recommend you to root first by preinstall method first so you can check first the "fuses" to make sure how to proceed. To do the root you DO NOT need to be "unlock". If you need help just tell and I can guide you for the root process
JiminSD said:
Unfortunately I did not use KP's version, and I don't now how to check for blown fuses since I haven't rooted and did not flash pudding "stopped after flashing OTA for fear of bricking" . I believe I have read that some have installed pudding from my current state to with a recoverable softbrick and then used fast booted flashing img of 1.8.3.
can anybody verify doing this safely? Sorry if this thread is repetitive but there is much confusion in here and I was gone two days from the forum when this all was taking place.
Much appreciated.
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mramirezusa said:
10000000000010001000100004000
ok here it is:
10000000000010001000100004000
4= BL "unlock" did you ever unlock you BL with pudding?
0= BL lock
10000000000010001000100004000
1=NO UPDATE BL TO AP20 Ver. , so you applied GB by moto-fastboot process or by CDW
3=YOU HAVE A NEW BL AP20 Ver., so you indeed applied GB OTA by Android Recovery from the sdcard
so in other words the ones we are in "confirmed" brick land if we RSD any MOTOROLA SBF are the ones with "3"
So you seem you indeed apply unlock bootloader (please confirm?) but you never applied GB OTA by Android Recover update.zip, and as you already confirm you applied GB Kenneth version by CDW or moto-fastboot.
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Yes, I unlocked with pudding following the instructions here ---> http://briefmobile.com/how-to-unlock-the-atrix-4g-bootloader, and yes I did flash KP's 4.5.91 and not the OTA.
Thanks for the clarification. Much appreciated!
So you are in the group of the lucky ones that actually can RSD "full" 1.83 or 1.57
The only thing you will lost the tag "unlocked" at the startup, so to get it back just RSD pudding again
I think you are asking this to return you phone to "stock" to be able to received the official OTA from moto/att right?
CaelanT said:
Yes, I unlocked with pudding following the instructions here ---> http://briefmobile.com/how-to-unlock-the-atrix-4g-bootloader, and yes I did flash KP's 4.5.91 and not the OTA.
Thanks for the clarification. Much appreciated!
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So you are in the group of the lucky ones that actually can RSD "full" 1.83 or 1.57
The only thing you will lost the tag "unlocked" at the startup, so to get it back just RSD pudding again
I think you are asking this to return you phone to "stock" to be able to received the official OTA from moto/att right?
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I am thinking about it, but I may let some other brave souls try first, as I believe it will cause the issues the current leaked OTA has caused. My phone runs great at the moment on KP's 4.5.91.
Prior to this, I flashed back a couple of times on 4.1.83 and did what you said to get "unlocked" back on my boot screen. I think everyone is more or less worried about what the actual release version of GB might do if you are unlocked already.
I am in same situation as OP. From private discussions and reading different threads it seems that I can go from stock 2.3.4 OTA (no mods) with a locked bootloader to anything if I just use the small unlock/pudding followed by fastboot unlock commands and fastboot install cwm....then fruitcakes or any rom should be good to go. But im waiting for GB to go fully public....just gonna enjoy 2.3.4 for now until everything is all sorted out.
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Agree. I think the first things to do when the real OTA is out is actually compare with the leak one, so at least we have an idea how to proceed.
Good Luck!
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I am thinking about it, but I may let some other brave souls try first, as I believe it will cause the issues the current leaked OTA has caused. My phone runs great at the moment on KP's 4.5.91.
Prior to this, I flashed back a couple of times on 4.1.83 and did what you said to get "unlocked" back on my boot screen. I think everyone is more or less worried about what the actual release version of GB might do if you are unlocked already.
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Sorry but this is NOT TRUE:
"I can go from stock 2.3.4 OTA (no mods) with a locked bootloader to anything "
Anything in this case mean: NEED TO UNLOCK BL, NEED TO APPLIED ANY ROM BY CWM OR MOTO-FASTBOOT WAY
But here it is the CONs: UNTIL TODAY IF YOU APPLIED THE LEAK STOCK GB YOU CAN NOT RSD ANY MOTOROLA SBF, THAT MEAN INCLUDED GB SBF BECAUSE IS NOT OUT THERE YET, SO YOU NEVER WILL GET BACT TO "REAL" STOCK OR BE SURE 100% YOU CAN RECEIVED IN THE FUTURE ANY OTA DIRECTLY FROM MOTO/ATT IS NOT BEEN TESTED YET
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I am in same situation as OP. From private discussions and reading different threads it seems that I can go from stock 2.3.4 OTA (no mods) with a locked bootloader to anything if I just use the small unlock/pudding followed by fastboot unlock commands and fastboot install cwm....then fruitcakes or any rom should be good to go. But im waiting for GB to go fully public....just gonna enjoy 2.3.4 for now until everything is all sorted out.
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Good clarification mrramirez.
My bad...should not have carelessly said "any". If ur on OTA 2.3.4 just stay put, and stay away from moto sbf
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Thanks to all my question has been answered. I will stay put and not install any sbf's regardless of source until the new OTA is studied by developers.
Ok about to get a atrix from att! So i need to understand some stuff. IVE SEARCHED
So if you unlock the bootloader you can never sbf back to i guess a froyo build using sbf?(1.83 is froyo i guessing) if you get the phone with GB build on it?
Reading the Automatic bootloader thread i see this on the OP Main Post:
* CONFIRMED, IS SAFE TO RSD THIS SPECIFIC SBF FROM MOTOROLA:
1FF-olympus-user-2.3.4-4.5.91-110625-release-keys-signed-ATT-US-GAS_NA_OLPSGBATTSPE_P011.sbf
MD5: 56721d893e43b814e95683a00b165555
SHA1: e00786e975b4f1d9fba2ff90c1ee6bbf95bb47b2
SO NOW ON FOR UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER USERS THIS CAN BE A BASE IF SOMETHING GO WRONG AND YOU NEED OUT OF THE BOX STATE FROM MOTOROLA
Need to be flash with RSDlite V5.3.1
Now lets say that the phone i get from att, will be on froyo. Do i need to:
go to system updates and install OTA GB build
Then follow the automatic bootloader thread?
Then i see this thread talking about something different on my searches?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138204
Any clarification will be thanked!
Phone will most likely come with Gingerbread. If not, OTA update, then unlock bootloader. Once you unlock the bootloader, on gingerbread, do not try to flash a eariler sbf version. First of all there is no need. Secondly, you can brick your device by doing it. If you ever want to return to a stock Gingerbread ROM after unlocking bootloader, you can flash a fruitcake... but your bootloader would still be unlocked.
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Thank you for the clear up!
I am currently rooted using the AIO method and also locked. I am thinking about unlocking and installing CWM instead of Boostrap. The only video I found has a root plus Clockwork. My question is: since I am already rooted, if I attempt to root again per the video, will this screw up my device? Also, do I need to use Pudding to unlock my bootloader before I install CWM? Sorry for the noob questions, I am just very confused on the order to do things. I recently said "eff it" on losing 4G and became ENTHRALLED in CWM and flashing ROMS.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Links, vids, it will all help!!
Just flash the 1mb pudding bootloader using rsd lite. When the flashing is at 100% it will fail, don't panic just continue with the moto-fastboot step.
Now you should be unlocked.
After this you can go for installing CWM
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Hi. I was wondering if it would be possible to flash the stock bootloader via RSDLite on top of a custom ROM?
Thanks.
Edit: JUST the bootloader. Keeping everything else intact.
I was thinking of taking the stock 4.5.141 sbf and with portable sbf tool removing all the rows, keeping the ones that correspond with the ones in the pudding sbf. What do you think?
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UPDATE:
Ok. So I managed to extract the stock BL. It flashed OK, but I got Failed to boot 2 with CM7.2. Flashed pudding back, and it was fine. Guess custom ROMs need Unlocked BL to boot.
Ok so i want to restore my atrix 4g, taking my moms upgrade and giving my atrix to her.
Currently it is rooted and the bootloader is unlocked, and i'm using cyanogen 7. I did not make a backup of my stock rom.
Is it possible to unroot, re-lock the bootloader and return to stock rom so that the warrenty "appears" to be un-voided?
I've always found android hacking pretty confusing so could someone point me in the right direction?
Which android version and build were you on when you unlocked your phone? I am guessing either ATT 2.3.6 or 2.3.4? Which build? 141, 91, etc.
I am asking because I was on ATT 2.3.6 build that ends on 141 before I unlocked and I was able to go back to factory stock by flashing the same sbf file through rsd lite. Only problem I encountered was the disappearing status bar which is fixed by totally wiping all data and signing up for a new Motoblur account.
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Search for the "fruitcakes" thread over in the Dev section and flash whichever one you want. Fruitcakes allow you to flash back to stock firmware.
The bootloader will still be unlocked. Once you unlock, there's no going back, however its been reported that the word "unlock" doesn't show up when you boot the phone after you flash a fruitcake...
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ccrows said:
Search for the "fruitcakes" thread over in the Dev section and flash whichever one you want. Fruitcakes allow you to flash back to stock firmware.
The bootloader will still be unlocked. Once you unlock, there's no going back, however its been reported that the word "unlock" doesn't show up when you boot the phone after you flash a fruitcake...
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No need to flash a fruitcake if you want real stock ROM. Fruitcake will still show unlocked text on boot screen.
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