I got a 10.1 wifi recently and am wondering if its worth it to root now and get ics installed (with the -of no camera) or to wait untill samsung gets its act together, and get the offical version.
You're asking in an Android Hacking forum, we're all rooted and I'd bet 80% are running ICS .
If you can live without the camera then definitely go for it, if you're comfortable. You could be waiting a while on Samsung, they tend to delay such things.
If do decide to root it, don't be afraid to ask questions here. Welcome to XDA.
I don't know if the question asked is appropriate or a trick question considering this forum is completely dedicated to the benefits of hacking to gain maximum benefit.
LoaganThack said:
I got a 10.1 wifi recently and am wondering if its worth it to root now and get ics installed (with the -of no camera) or to wait untill samsung gets its act together, and get the offical version.
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It's really not very hard to try it out for yourself and see if you like it. You can always flash back to stock if you need to.
I have CM9 ICS on my personal tablet, but am still using 3.2 on my G-Tab 10.1 because I need the camera for work. I am running the Overcome ROM on it though, which gives me a little more options/flexibility than stock samsung.
but as far as performance, there is little difference between 3.2 HC and ICS (at least at this point). There are some UI differences that I like, but they are minor changes from honeycomb, so don't expect a huge difference on ICS.
Easy answer: yes, it is. And it's very easy to install ics. Just do it and have fun.
Three more questions:
Is there any other bugs besides the camera not working?
And any links to upto date root and ics (i think i read 4.0.4?)?
Is it not possible to get the camera drivers (which from what I have read is the missing link) from the old stock version?
Fyi I have the Samsung 10.1 wifi gt-p7510
Thank you guys already I am not trolling btw i have never rooted/ flash a new operating system on android and kind of afraid of bricking my tablet.
LoaganThack said:
Three more questions:
Is there any other bugs besides the camera not working?
And any links to upto date root and ics (i think i read 4.0.4?)?
Is it not possible to get the camera drivers (which from what I have read is the missing link) from the old stock version?
Fyi I have the Samsung 10.1 wifi gt-p7510
Thank you guys already I am not trolling btw i have never rooted/ flash a new operating system on android and kind of afraid of bricking my tablet.
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QBKing77 has great video instructions on YouTube,check it out. Very easy. Make sure you do a backup b4 putting a rom on and make sure it's for your Tab. Only issue I have ever had is no camera, but I knew that going in and I use my S2 for pics anyway. We can't get the camera because Sammy will not release the needed info. You can brick your tablet that's a risk but there r ways to unbrick, like I said just make sure the root method and from is for your version of the Galaxy Tab.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 using XDA Premium HD App.
Once rooted you wont look back and its so easy and quick to do. Much more freedom IMO, I started with ICS and its great, but went back to HC just because of the camera. Such a shame, I have htc dhd phone rooted on ics and camera works fine, just a samsung thing.
As said previously, give it a try
Question about rooting what dose it allow you to do?
Rooting allows you to gain access to the system files, lets just say its like your employee ID to get into your company
i rooted my g tab to ics once, i guess it was worth it, but i went back to honeycomb because of the camera.
It's not like camera on a tab plays a great feature, because taking pictures with the tab is like using a laptop to take a 5MP picture.
I'd say I never use the camera on my tab.......... Until I flashed ics then I just kept needing it think it's just a case of wanting what you don't have.. So I'm back to HC.
Is there any good roms out there with the camera working? Sorry for the noob question, Im a new tab owner.
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It's not like camera on a tab plays a great feature, because taking pictures with the tab is like using a laptop to take a 5MP picture.
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I use the camera with visidon which lets me face lock certain apps, also lets me make video calls and google goggles to translate foreign signs so yeah camera is a must have for me and not necessarily for taking pictures
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Sorry to bump this, but I'm curious to know if it's easy to replace the tablet for a decent price? That's really my only concern about rooting my tablet.
Of course it is, you are in the right place
i havent flashed the 10.1 to ICS purely because i use the camera for such things as skype or google hangouts.
so im using overcome rom, but i miss being able to group apps into a folder like ICS can do
ICS Or Not??? That is the Question!!!!
Over the last 6 months I have tried every ROM listed for the Galaxy Tab here on XDA, including ICS. I must say ICS offers better battery life, faster processing and better visuals, but I am like a few others and need the camera so I am sticking with Galaxy Task Rom. Out of all of them it is the most stable, and fastest giving me Quadrant Scores of just under 3100. Using ICS I was closer to 3600 and I thought at one point hit 3800, but I think that was a fluke, but then I had no camera, so back to 3.2. For me I have compiled the best apps I could to make my tablet a screamer.....If you have any others please let me know.
Galaxy Task
OC 1.4 Pershoot Kernel (is there a 1.5 or 1.6)
Swapper File @ 500mb (app)
SD Speed Boost set at 4000 (app)
Volume + set on Beats Emulation with +10 speaker increase (app)
Poweramp for a 10 band equalizer for great sound (app)
Now using the same apps with ICS made it ultra fast. But I wish the camera worked.
Definately appreciate everyone on here with their input.....my knowledge is only as good as flashing and recovery, but am trying to learn more as I move forward. Love the Galaxy Tab, it is my 10th tablet I have owned and my favorite. Now I have to figure out how to flash my Atrix 2 phone........love this site!!!!
Quick ques about ICS Roms [from what I've seen in Cm9/Muiu]
1. can you change screen mode [dynamic/movie/normal]
2. change font styles?
I don't remember seeing these options, but it was about a month ago when I flashed these Roms?
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Surprised myself and after two weeks of ownership I am still on the I717 Note's stock ROM. This was after constantly ROM flashing on my prior Android Samsung Infuse and iPhone4 & 3G (Jailbreak of course).
Stock battery life is decent and launchers like GO, ADW, etc. give plenty of ability to change icons, UI behavior, etc.
So far I haven't found any annoying problems that would require me to fix via rooting.
I HAD to root my prior Samsung Infuse because it had software bugs that required root to fix BUT I am real PROUD of my Note's ability to run strong and solid as a stock ROM. I haven't been forced to reboot yet in 2 weeks of ownership! Yeha!
For myself the KEY is to make myself to NOT TO LOOK AT Applications:Running Services...it makes me sick to see all those unnecessary apps loaded up.
I simply wanted to see how the Note behaved out-of-the box...and so far real impressed.
Will I ever ROOT - Probably, just to get rid of bloatware AND I will need to tether occasionally once I start traveling again.
Will I ever replace the ROM? Not sure, depends on features but definitely not interested in ROMs that just change icons, startup screens and colors.
anyway, this is just post to say how satisfied, thus far, with the Note's performance...as is.
Anything I'm missing that needs root to fix?
andrawer said:
Surprised myself and after two weeks of ownership I am still on the I717 Note's stock ROM. This was after constantly ROM flashing on my prior Android Samsung Infuse and iPhone4 & 3G (Jailbreak of course).
Stock battery life is decent and launchers like GO, ADW, etc. give plenty of ability to change icons, UI behavior, etc.
So far I haven't found any annoying problems that would require me to fix via rooting.
I HAD to root my prior Samsung Infuse because it had software bugs that required root to fix BUT I am real PROUD of my Note's ability to run strong and solid as a stock ROM. I haven't been forced to reboot yet in 2 weeks of ownership! Yeha!
For myself the KEY is to make myself to NOT TO LOOK AT Applications:Running Services...it makes me sick to see all those unnecessary apps loaded up.
I simply wanted to see how the Note behaved out-of-the box...and so far real impressed.
Will I ever ROOT - Probably, just to get rid of bloatware AND I will need to tether occasionally once I start traveling again.
Will I ever replace the ROM? Not sure, depends on features but definitely not interested in ROMs that just change icons, startup screens and colors.
anyway, this is just post to say how satisfied, thus far, with the Note's performance...as is.
Anything I'm missing that needs root to fix?
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You can stop those with Autostarts (free in the market), and requires root. It prevents them from opening at all. If you end up checking it out, use the "after startup" disable option.
- Root required apps (there a lot of really good ones - this alone would be enough for me to root).
If you're not interested in theming, or a lot of modifications, then stock is cool. Features, changes, and modifications from custom roms can be patched to stock roms; the only advantage of using custom ones is that they're baked in for you.
I am sticking on stock rom for now, just going to root so I can restore a lot of my old apps, nothing more.
I've already flashed Da_G's root/over clock kernel, which got rid of the lag I was seeing. As soon as cwm comes out of beta I'm going to check out saurom. The Note's out of the box experience is one of the best I've seen, but there is just too much improvement to be had to stay stock, IMHO.
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I've already flashed Da_G's root/over clock kernel, which got rid of the lag I was seeing. As soon as cwm comes out of beta I'm going to check out saurom. The Note's out of the box experience is one of the best I've seen, but there is just too much improvement to be had to stay stock, IMHO.
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CMW b3 seems to be flawless so far!
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I think it is a good idea to stay all stock until ics update comes out and we apply it. (I expect them to want us to be all stock when applying the ics update that is why)
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I think it is a good idea to stay all stock until ics update comes out and we apply it. (I expect them to want us to be all stock when applying the ics update that is why)
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Fair enough but there will be several ICS Roms months before official AT&T. (I am typing from my ICS Captivate right now for example). Plus you can always flash back to stock.
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I was stock from best buy to my house and that's it and I can't wait till I can get a sub 100mb ROM onto here. The bloat is sickening and even after removing down to mid 100 it's still not performing to it's non touchwiz potential.
Just to throw in my two-cents, I am fairly impressed as well with the Touchwiz 4.0 interface. Coming from an Atrix (blur) and Inspire (sense), touchwiz is a big step up imo. It feels like gingerbread done right to me. Although it isn't without a few issues, like the slight but noticable lag (to be fair all stock roms seem to stutter a bit occasionally), the no wallpaper scrolling and no landscape mode for the touchwiz launcher.
I think it will be interesting to see what devs or even Samsung/AT&T come up with to merge Touchwiz and ICS. It's gonna be a good year in the ROM community on this phone I can feel it.
Both my notes are on stock. I have no need for a rom.
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Both my notes are on stock. I have no need for a rom.
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Yeah but... stock IS a ROM, too.
I think it is a great thing that this phone is so good that we can use it stock. Haven't got mine yet but I only plan to Root it and use stock for a few weeks, at least.
So far yes
Right now there really aren't that many roms for the galaxy note lte so I'm going to wait until ICS comes out play with that for a while then I'll be flashing away!
I think people obsess over nothing rather than actually use their devices. That said, I'm not bothering to flash anyone's cooked ROM until there's an ICS update from Samsung.
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I think people obsess over nothing rather than actually use their devices. That said, I'm not bothering to flash anyone's cooked ROM until there's an ICS update from Samsung.
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^That, less the o/c kernel. The performance boost isn't exacted necessary, but you WILL notice it.
I was going to try and stick with the stock ROM as long as possible. However, my addiction got the best of me, and im now laying in bed at the end of my first full day with my Note, and I'm running TPC2 with Da_G's OC kernel. Go figure. Haha.
Not that I was having troubles with the stock ROM, as it was actually really smooth and lag free for the most part. On the other hand, now my Note is an absolute beast. The Note is definitely the first Android I've been happy with out of the box, but I would still rather be running a custom ROM, if not just so I can tell people it's running custom software when I show them my phone.
Samsung really hit it out of the park with this phone. I will never look at a smaller phone the same way again. Forever ruined! And I find the SPen to be really comfy for just navigating my phone and precision of selection. Swyping is fun with it.
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I think it's not necessary for me to do anything yet. But don't get me wrong, I will root the phone eventually. I have a real problem with ATT telling me that I "have" to suffer software I don't want on MY phone. That in its self encourages me to root. But, I am waiting to see if ICS is really going to be available soon.
I wonder though if Rooting would affect the upgrade process--perhaps someone could answer this for me. If not, I would be tempted to root my Note after the thirty days (window of time for return) is up.
I flashed roms daily on my Inspire, but I am stock now and planning on staying that way forever or at least until If leaks. the only thing I've done is root to disable ads and remove bloatware.
I'm still stock. I've rooted and jailbrake-ed other phones. I really like this one the way it is. The bloatware etc don't bother me much. I may root after ICS. For now, my Note rocks pretty hard just the way it is.
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But, I am waiting to see if ICS is really going to be available soon.
I wonder though if Rooting would effect the upgrade process--perhaps someone could answer this for me. If not, I would be tempted to root my Note after the thirty days is up.
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Are you asking if root will affect upgrading to ICS? The answer to that is no. If you flash a custom ROM then that answer is yes. You would need to go back to stock ROM for the ICS update from ATT. However, there will be ICS ROMs here well before ATT releases it.
What's the 30 days thing? Not getting that part. What happens in 30 days? Maybe you mean the window to return your Note. I agree you might want to wait for that to expire before root. But you can also un-root if you want.
I'm on stock rom and don't plan to root anytime soon for both of my devices the note and gnex!
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
My wife's Gingerbread Galaxy Tab 10.1 died and is going back for warranty repair. She is getting a new Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 with ICS becasue she can't "live" without it. When the old one comes back I get it to replace my old Viewsonic Gtab that I put ICS on. I'm looking forward to the improved viewing angle of the Galaxy tab.
Can someone refer me to the best XDA links I can go-to to root the Galaxy Tab and upgrade it to ICS?
First of all, you have to root it. There are many guides in development, but I like this:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15693193
Then in order to have cm9 (which in my opinion is better than aokp) flash this recovery with odin:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14020765
Then download cm9 and flash it with recovery (the various galaxy tablet builds are recognized by "p4"):
get.cm/?device=&type=nightly
Finally, if you want aokp, install rom manager from play and download latest cwm recovery. Then go here:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459287
Remember when moving between cm9, aokp and honeycomb builds, always wipe data prior to flashing the new rom. That isn't necessary for updating the same build, like moving from one cm nightly to another.
Oh, last but definitely not least. All ics firmwares for our galaxy tab lack functioning camera, in case you don't know. The issue will be resolved when Samsung releases official ics for the tab.
Sent from my amazing 10.1 galaxy tab
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Oh, last but definitely not least. All ics firmwares for our galaxy tab lack functioning camera, in case you don't know. The issue will be resolved when Samsung releases official ics for the tab.
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Last thing first (so I don't get confused - I'm old). The Tab camera is not a high interest item for me BUT the Galaxy Tab 2 my wife is buying/bought is supposed to have 4.0 ICS on it. Wouldn't that be an official ICS?
Is there an alternative to Odin? For my Galaxy SII I used Calkuli's ICS ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1527041 and did it straight from CWM. It's awesome.
I can do Odin but I've been a Linux user for years and try to avoid Windows. I disagree with their business practices of over inflated prices (ok I had to pay a lot for my Android devices but spending money on hardware is not quite the same). I feel similar about Apple but at least their hardware works better but still, they keep breaking the jailbreaks and keeping their software propitiatory.
didn't the GTab 10.1 came originally with Honeycomb ?
GTab 10.1 is not the same as the GTab 10.2 v2, hence the lack of support in ICS roms for the GTAB 10.1 camera... similar names different hardware, different drivers, different everything, just the same manufacturer/OS.
PS: I don't think it is really possible to update/flash new roms within linux (haven't tried it myself), just grab a copy of windows XP sp3 (wherever you can get it, free might be better), install it and update, keep that for updates or just scrap it.
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Last thing first (so I don't get confused - I'm old). The Tab camera is not a high interest item for me BUT the Galaxy Tab 2 my wife is buying/bought is supposed to have 4.0 ICS on it. Wouldn't that be an official ICS?
Is there an alternative to Odin? For my Galaxy SII I used Calkuli's ICS ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1527041 and did it straight from CWM. It's awesome.
I can do Odin but I've been a Linux user for years and try to avoid Windows. I disagree with their business practices of over inflated prices (ok I had to pay a lot for my Android devices but spending money on hardware is not quite the same). I feel similar about Apple but at least their hardware works better but still, they keep breaking the jailbreaks and keeping their software propitiatory.
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Go to the rooting thread and download the recovery for 4G version. Then download the pershoot recovery for your device. Unzip the 4G version recovery, replace the cwm img with your own, zip it up and flash it through stock recovery. It worked flawlessly for my p7500.
Thanks for the advice. I ended up using ODIN and following these instructions. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459287
It's pretty sweet.
The next thing I'm going to hopefully solve is getting the camera choice of the unlock screen. It's not on my Galaxy S II ICS install and on the Galaxy Tab if swiped by accident (on an purpose) it reboots the tab. Annoying. If I can't figure it out I guess I'll start a thread.
I had that reboot problem with aokp. Then I switched to cm and when you swipe to the left, you just get a message that camera doesn't work. And it's better and more stable imo. But anyway, I'm glad I helped to solve your problem.
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Sorry for my denseness but what does "switched to cm" mean?
I meant that I flashed cm9 and ditched aokp. Sorry for the confusion!
Sent from my amazing 10.1 galaxy tab
Can CM9 be flashed without a full wipe? I'm sorry I missed that point in your earlier post but now I understand a little more. I'd rather not do a factory reset since I just spent a boat-load of time downloading all my apps and carp and would like to avoid having to do it again.
The only thing with aokp I don't like is this camera on the lock screen and that you have to swipe to the right. Calkulins ICS on the Galaxy SII lockscreen lets me just unlock it no matter how or in what direction I swipe. Maybe that's just a phone feature that I was hoping was an ICS-regardless-of-device feature.
I guess my not being a tablet "photographer" I don't appreciate the spontaneity that one must expect to have. I actually pick up a real camera and sometimes even put the lens on it, take the lens cap off and turn it on before I take a photo.
I'm afraid that a wipe is always needed the first time you flash a firmware. You can try to flash without wipe and see how it goes. In order to flash cm9 you must have pershoot's recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1090289.
Before you flash anything make a backup in recovery, so should something go wrong, you will return to the state you are now.
Oh well - practice makes perfect and I always learn something new. I'm a good community inhabitant and I DO try to share what I learn with others too. I certainly appreciate your patience with me and also appreciate your helping me get past my required 10 posts - developer threads, here I come....
I just thought of a question that is still on-topic.
Does CM9 USB support work. I'm doing what I need by either downloading or using dropbox. It would be nice to just plug it in. If it does then I'm installing it no matter how much of a PITA it will be to reset everything the way I like it.
Hello people, I am unrooted and have enjoyed my ATRIX 4g even though I have been stuck with the final ginger bread ota release at&t gave us and have waited patiently for the promised ota ICS upgrade which they now posted we will not get, I am aware that there is a Leak Test ICS that is buggy, and have been mods made or provided over here by your awesome developers bringing our devices up to JB level even, but am a fan of the functioning camera and finger print biometrics personally. I am a noob as far as Android rooting but very tech savvy and with devices and software in general, every app I have wanted to use has been great on this phone regardless of what version it was made for until today... I am quite into photo editing and have a ton of photo edit apps and engage in IG a bit, we as the underdogs over at IG were always fighting to make our tweaks and edits look as good as an Iphone edit mainly because they had an app called Snapseed, I was very pleased. When I read google had purchased this app drom NIK software a month ago and today it was finally released for Android, I went to Google Play and it for the first time ever said this app is not compatible with your device, it needs 4.0 or above in other words ICS, now my main question here is if I did root flash a mod similar to ICS or the unstable leak version will Google play still just see the signature of my phone and not allow a download or if I was running a new os would it get around that issue, I did also write the developer but doubt they are too concerned about making the app backward compatible as Google also purchased Motorola and offer a mere $100.00 towards upgrading to a different moto phone and I love this ine and do not have the money at the noment to do so.. any advice would be greatly appteciated, as to a a suitable os and whether or not it would even allow us Atrix 4g users to download Snapseed if our phone is recognized by its name and autodetection by googlr play tegardlrss of os, I mean it's a fast phone I've had no problems, everything works, dual core, good ram, speed stirage etc.. thanks Stu
Shows up fine on EPinter's CM10. Market just checks what version of Android your device is using. I haven't installed it to check, but will be doing so shortly. I'll get back to you about how it fairs on our devices.
Edit: After about 10 mins of playing around, it's running pretty well. No noticeable lag whatsoever. Kinda regret paying for PicSay Pro since this one seems to have a simpler UI.
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Shows up fine on EPinter's CM10. Market just checks what version of Android your device is using. I haven't installed it to check, but will be doing so shortly. I'll get back to you about how it fairs on our devices.
Edit: After about 10 mins of playing around, it's running pretty well. No noticeable lag whatsoever. Kinda regret paying for PicSay Pro since this one seems to have a simpler UI.
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Thanks very much sir, I will now have to look into this EPinter's CM10 and learn the whole process and hopefully not brick my phone, I'm good with directions, does the CM10 have a working camera and fingerprint scanner, and can I save my whole phone image if it all went south? I also paid for PicSayPro and many others too, love graphic arts and photography so the cam although only 5mp is important at times.
Anyway thanks very much yet again for the info.
No problem. Yes, you should make a nandroid backup once you have a custom recovery. It is one of the recommended steps followed by an exclamation mark. =P The only thing lacking on EPinter's CM10 is video camera (related to missing HWA due to improper kernel source) Regular camera works fine for still shots. I use camera fx & camera 360, both work without any issues. And No, the fingerprint scanner doesn't work since it's not a part of CM source.
There is an unofficial, "official" ICS (ICSROM & ATRICS) that has proper HWA with video camera and fingerprint scanner but the battery life is terrible and the phone gets really hot. I personally had random restarts every few minutes.EPinter's CM10 does well as a daily driver, but if you're going to go through the trouble, might as well try all the roms available! =D
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Thanks very much for this info, I will research these downloads, I watched a youtube vid of cm10 and looked good, seems the Atrix is a bit more of a pain to work with than other Androids but will look into the whole process of unlocking and fastboots and the nanandroid back up etc.
Greatly appreciate the help.
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Yes, the Atrix is a pain compared others, but once rooted with a custom recovery (IMHO RomRacer's custom CWM 5.0.2.7 is the best, never had issues) it's just like any other device. Heck, I remember flashing 3-4 ROMs a day, it was insane! =P
I would recommend downloading Titanium Backup from the market as well. It will help you quickly backup your most used apps w/ data/settings and reinstall them after installing a new ROM. Good luck and have fun.
P.S. Thanks for Snapseed!
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Well I'm reading up on different phones and I was almost sold on the LG Nexus 4 until I read further into the no LTE issue and then it clicked that while it can come with 16 gigs of memory, it's internal and therefore if the phone dies violently...or just gets lost, I lost a lot of important pics should i not back up to my comp enough. Which I don't honestly.
So I'm reading up on this phone and it has everything I need except one hitch, it doesn't come stock with Jellybean. LGs site says it come with 4.0 ICS. So I'm wondering if it does get the OS update and if so to what version. That will honestly be the deal breaker on whether I commit to buying this device in the near future.
I know i could just read through this whole forum..but really I just want a simple answer with my making my head explode with all the extra info..cause my ADD hide will sit here and read everything out of boredom. And I'm just not in the mood tonight. Please and thank you!
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Well I'm reading up on different phones and I was almost sold on the LG Nexus 4 until I read further into the no LTE issue and then it clicked that while it can come with 16 gigs of memory, it's internal and therefore if the phone dies violently...or just gets lost, I lost a lot of important pics should i not back up to my comp enough. Which I don't honestly.
So I'm reading up on this phone and it has everything I need except one hitch, it doesn't come stock with Jellybean. LGs site says it come with 4.0 ICS. So I'm wondering if it does get the OS update and if so to what version. That will honestly be the deal breaker on whether I commit to buying this device in the near future.
I know i could just read through this whole forum..but really I just want a simple answer with my making my head explode with all the extra info..cause my ADD hide will sit here and read everything out of boredom. And I'm just not in the mood tonight. Please and thank you!
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Well, while there's not an "official" JB update yet, there are a few unofficial ones that are working quite well, as well as CM/AOSP in the making. You can also just convert it to a nexus (basically) if you'd like, so I'd say go for it personally. However I'll probably get flamed for even answering you because you should really search since there are probably about a million threads just like this. Just food for thought...
NEVER buy a phone for what it MIGHT do in the future...
The Optimus G will probably get JB in the future - but there is a slight chance it won't. And who knows when, could be months.
If you don't mind rooting and tinkering, there are a few ports that mostly (but not completely or perfectly) run JB now.
If that works for you, then there you go.
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If you need or really want JB, and don't feel like rooting, wait a few months for the next crop of super phones. By the time this gets official JB support, the next batch will already be here with faster processors, etc. However, if you do like to mod and root and tinker, as was mentioned, there are some developers working on AOSP and CM10.1. Hopefully that will be out by the end of this month, but we don't ask for or get ETA's around here...etiquette, and stuff.
Once that door opens, I would imagine the ROM's and custom development will take-off.
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I guess I should have worded my question differently. I should have said, has it gotten the update, rather than does it get it. But from the way it sounds, it has not. I like rooting and tinkering. But I really just want a stock JB phone to work with and tinker from there. I appreciate the answers though. Thanks.
Snow released a fully functional JB port based on stock for a different LGOG (not sure which one) which works phenomenally. Though I'm more for ICS instead of JB, I'm giving it a shot. The performance is outrageous.
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Neroga said:
Snow released a fully functional JB port based on stock for a different LGOG (not sure which one) which works phenomenally. Though I'm more for ICS instead of JB, I'm giving it a shot. The performance is outrageous.
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Where is that at?
Do all features that are at least in the OEM firmware work properly?
(I have to have a phone that works, out of beta, without bugs and crashes and spending days on workarounds. I tried AOSP on my Samsung Galacxy SII Skyrocket and it was nothing but problems. Camera crashing, editing configs.... it was a beta at best and unreliable. I don't think I want a custom ROM ever again if that is the experience with it, but I do love JB)
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Where is that at?
Do all features that are at least in the OEM firmware work properly?
(I have to have a phone that works, out of beta, without bugs and crashes and spending days on workarounds. I tried AOSP on my Samsung Galacxy SII Skyrocket and it was nothing but problems. Camera crashing, editing configs.... it was a beta at best and unreliable. I don't think I want a custom ROM ever again if that is the experience with it, but I do love JB)
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Everything's working fine on my end too. The only other problem i've heard is of some people not having their 32g or 64g external card show up while others have. I just flashed it last night, granted it's still early to know for sure without testing a few more days but I'm really enjoying it and things are flawless right now.
Please?
So, first of all - hey, guys, greetings from a fellow modder
I have an Xperia U that needs to work faster than it does at the moment It was fine during the first two months or so and then it started to slow down and now it needs a reboot every 2 days or so. There are two paths to making it better, I guess:
1. Tweaking the current (stock) ROM (Is there anywhere a complete list of Sony's bloatware that can be safely frozen (I've got TB Pro) without causing any force closes? That would be the greatest thing. (please don't recommend using Greenify instead :silly: )
2. What ROMs would you recommend from your U xperience so far? (Note that I need the illumination bar, the front cam, video recording and bluetooth to work properly)
Current firmware on it is: 6.1.1.B.1.10. It's rooted, but the bootloader is still locked
Cheers and thanks in advance!
If performance is your main concern then going back to Gingerbread is probably your best bet as everything ICS or higher will be heavier unless I'm mistaken.
If GB is too much of a step backwards then have a look in the Xperia U Development forum for one of the tweaked stock ICS roms -- most of them will be lighter-weight than the stock rom you're on at present.
As for removal of unnecessary things, I managed to get rid of all of the Facebook and Twitter stuff from mine without issue, albeit I'm on Jelly Bean. It may also be worth getting rid of some of the Google apps if you don't need them, or if you do need them it might be worth removing them from your system/app directory and installing them as user apps as you can then use Greenify (I know, you said you weren't interested) to hibernate them so they only run when you want them to.
If you have CWM installed, make a backup and start messing around, that way even if it goes wrong you can just boot back in to CWM and restore your original rom, problem solved.
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If performance is your main concern then going back to Gingerbread is probably your best bet as everything ICS or higher will be heavier unless I'm mistaken.
If GB is too much of a step backwards then have a look in the Xperia U Development forum for one of the tweaked stock ICS roms -- most of them will be lighter-weight than the stock rom you're on at present.
As for removal of unnecessary things, I managed to get rid of all of the Facebook and Twitter stuff from mine without issue, albeit I'm on Jelly Bean. It may also be worth getting rid of some of the Google apps if you don't need them, or if you do need them it might be worth removing them from your system/app directory and installing them as user apps as you can then use Greenify (I know, you said you weren't interested) to hibernate them so they only run when you want them to.
If you have CWM installed, make a backup and start messing around, that way even if it goes wrong you can just boot back in to CWM and restore your original rom, problem solved.
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Oh, boy, now I'm embarrassed that I haven't thought of that plan myself That's the way to do it, then. Just need to setup CWM and I'll get down to experimenting.
Yeah, Gingerbread is lighter on RAM usage, but I somehow feel that ICS and JB are more powerful when using them... Not talking just about the UI improvements. Can't quite explain But I feel the same way about both my Moto DEFY+ and this Sony U
Could you tell me what kind of a Jelly Bean ROM have you got on yours and what kind of bugs do you have to deal with?
Thanks for helping!
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Yeah, Gingerbread is lighter on RAM usage, but I somehow feel that ICS and JB are more powerful when using them... Not talking just about the UI improvements. Can't quite explain But I feel the same way about both my Moto DEFY+ and this Sony U
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I know exactly what you mean -- I would love my phone to be faster but I just can't face going back to GB and now, having moved to JB I'm not sure I could even go back to ICS. It just seems wrong to have to "downgrade" anything to make it better.
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Could you tell me what kind of a Jelly Bean ROM have you got on yours and what kind of bugs do you have to deal with?
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I'm currently using kantry123's v7 version of pipi14's JB rom which has a number of fixes on top of the previous v6. It's nice to use but it definitely has issues;
LED bar doesn't work properly
Front camera doesn't work
Low memory causing launcher redraws and other issues
The front camera I don't need so it doesn't bother me, but the other two are an issue. I'm actively investigating fixes and workarounds for the LED bar to see if I can get it working a bit more to my liking. The low memory though, that's pretty much impossible to solve. I've managed to get around some of the problems by using the Experimental v8 kernel and tweaking the minfree values to be quite low but I'm still playing around to try to get the best result.
Whilst I'm very grateful for being able to run JB on my XU, I can't honestly say that I'm happy with the result. But with that said, I am a lot happier with this setup than I was with the stock ICS update that I got, which just made my phone horrible to use.