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Hello ive brought the motorola atrix and i think its great but im afraid it has some flaws. Using a live wallpaper with golauncher gets everything laggy, the browser speed is awful. In somethings its lightning fast in others its even slower than other weaker phones. Im using the at&t atrix with the latest OTA update. Ah i forgot mention the touchscreen bug in games so called raindrop protection. I want to know if other roms like cyanogen mod would fix this issues. Because i cant believe they say that tegra 2 is better than an ipod touch 4g and in browser its slower. And will atrix ever recieve ice cream sandwich? Official or not? And i would be able to use webtop on cyanogenmod? Thanks!
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Lordareon said:
Hello ive brought the motorola atrix and i think its great but im afraid it has some flaws. Using a live wallpaper with golauncher gets everything laggy, the browser speed is awful. In somethings its lightning fast in others its even slower than other weaker phones. Im using the at&t atrix with the latest OTA update. Ah i forgot mention the touchscreen bug in games so called raindrop protection. I want to know if other roms like cyanogen mod would fix this issues. Because i cant believe they say that tegra 2 is better than an ipod touch 4g and in browser its slower. And will atrix ever recieve ice cream sandwich? Official or not? And i would be able to use webtop on cyanogenmod? Thanks!
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I'll try and answer some of these questions.
1) You should try using a custom kernel first of all, you should notice a huge difference in speed
2) Try using dolphin browser hd or opera browser and im sure your browsing experience will be much better
3) The atrix will receive ice cream sandwich for sure. Motorola is bound to release it for the atrix if it comes out before next july (which it will) as per the google handset agreement. The only way the atrix could not get ICS is if the hardware didn't allow for it. But the hardware on the atrix is better than the nexus S, and since that is getting ICS we are guaranteed our update.
4) Webtop on cm is being worked on
Thanks for the reply, ive been using dolphin and it is faster indeed. But yet not even close to ipod one. About the custom kernel can you point me to some instructions how to install it? Which relation it has with a custom rom? Thanks
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iphone and windows phone have hw acceleration. makes for better browsing and smoother everything. helps tremendously with battery too. hardware acceleration is something android is severely missing. let's hope ics brings it. it would breathe new life into even older phones.
Did the guys at google said sonething about it? I was hoping a stretch to fit feature so games with lower resolution would fit nicely and work too in bigger phones like atrix. I miss order & chaos so much :/
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Opera is lightning. It has hw acceleration
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I came from an iphone 4 and I love the ATRIX,
Then again I had many tweaks running lol but anywho try a custom rom, its like owning a whole mother phone now
I came from a Trash Zte Racer and an ipod touch 4g, and atrix is like the sum of their good parts. but in comparison to ipod touch i miss the game compability, display detail and speed =/ i dont think android is ugly nor "not usser friendly". its very intuitive too. ill try opera mobile. to see what it says, i just hope ICS brigs all those cool features plus the Android 3.0 and 3.1 features. I hope it be as tasty as a Real Ice Cream Sandwich. I was thinking abou custom rom. but nobody told me the diference of a custom kernel and a custom rom. and i'd like some features of atrix like the webtop, so ill wait a bit more till the cyanogen is stabilished to move to it.
Hi,
Just curious about some opinions. I have downloaded and used the ICS for Evo 3D (the version just prior to Joel's last upload), and really liked it. I especially loved the fast web browsing.
But I've been running the Xplode XE 3D by Team Nocturnal and everything on the phone works, beautiful look to it, etc.
The web browsing is not as fast, but the battery life seems better.
My question is, other than:
1. The novelty of something new
2. The desire to use the "latest"
What are some other reasons that might be argued for the superiority of ICS?
rcaldw said:
Hi,
Just curious about some opinions. I have downloaded and used the ICS for Evo 3D (the version just prior to Joel's last upload), and really liked it. I especially loved the fast web browsing.
But I've been running the Xplode XE 3D by Team Nocturnal and everything on the phone works, beautiful look to it, etc.
The web browsing is not as fast, but the battery life seems better.
My question is, other than:
1. The novelty of something new
2. The desire to use the "latest"
What are some other reasons that might be argued for the superiority of ICS?
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Use what you like. It's your phone, own it. Don't let us tell you what to run.
But ICS here isn't complete, so that isn't exactly a fair comparison yet. There are many many new features to ICS besides the interface. Things such as face unlock (when camera works), managing your data usage, hardware acceleration - just to name a few. Perhaps you should look up all ICS has to offer, there are tons of sources that share what's new. I can't remember everything and there's just too much to type up here.
Thank you. I wasn't looking for anyone to tell me what to run. But I WAS looking for what you gave me in your post. Just a brief set of a few reasons why one might want to go with ICS. I appreciate it.
Google "ICS vs gingerbread"
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I used a nexus s for a bit with ics. The only thing I miss is the better keyboard and much better voice to text. Everything else was forgettable, and honestly the browser was WORSE because it works like the iPhone in that it zooms but doesn't reformat the text. The way it works with GB is far better.
You're not missing much with GB, I'm in no rush to get it. I just want a good AOSP ROM regardless what release it is
I absolutely adore ICS. I cant bring myself to go back to gingerbread. I think asop gb is ugly now that I've gotten used to ics, its just much prettier! Im also very happy to be rid of Android green. Otherwise I personally feel ICS is a much better OS, especially under the hood, its quick, smooth, and better thought out all around. And once you get used to the keyboard its fantastic, and the text prediction and spell check is the best I've used, i love the keyboard.
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I used a nexus s for a bit with ics. The only thing I miss is the better keyboard and much better voice to text. Everything else was forgettable, and honestly the browser was WORSE because it works like the iPhone in that it zooms but doesn't reformat the text. The way it works with GB is far better.
You're not missing much with GB, I'm in no rush to get it. I just want a good AOSP ROM regardless what release it is
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The text reflow is a sense browser thing
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The text reflowed on my nexus one and nexus s on stock and cyanogenmod roms for 2.3, so it's definitely not just a sense thing
Reflow worked for me in ICS. I had no problems. Did you use the Chrome beta?
Anyone missing GB yet? I love ICS, don't get me wrong but I got to say I miss GB a lot. It was a lot nicer looking and I miss the lockscreen. It also seemed a bit more stable. Your thoughts?
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I guess you missed the right section
But no, I don't wanna to go back to GB. I'm looking forward to nice ICS Custom Life :thumbup:
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Well when I finally get it I will be glad to post my thoughts
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Im happy with ics. I love the way it looks. Happier with the way it works. There are some things i would change but not much.
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No, I absolutely LOVE ICS in comparison to GB. It runs much more smoother. My only issue is that the battery life seems slightly worse than it was on GB. But the thing is, every upGRADE will eventually receive an upDATE once people start complaining of various issues/bugs etc.
I actually miss the GB text messaging app. It was cleaner looking to me. I dont like pictures of myself when I type a reply and I dont really like using a 3rd party app. Might have to though...
Other than that, I am happy with the .211 update. I actually really like the new lock screen.
I don't miss anything in GB but IMO, ICS is not as exciting as some people make it out to be. I think some people will be disappointed.
I think the more I use ICS the more I love it.
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I'm not on ice cream sandwich yet, but i've been looking at review after review, and see people going insane because they dont have it. They go as far as even switching phones because they didnt get the update soon enough, what is this stupidity? The phone version of ice cream sandwich looks great, as does the tablet version. However, the new webtop sucks in comparison. It seems much less useful, and it really sucks. I want to dump standard computers and use my phone as my main machine, i was one step closer to that with a ubuntu based webtop. This is frustrating.
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Well i updated to the ice cream sandwich OTA last night, and i say "updated" instead of "upgraded" because this is no upgrade. I will admit, this thing is blazing fast and super responsive, i love that. Also the camera, it is a lot better than the gingerbread one, so that's a plus. That, however, is where the positives end. I have been using Launcherpro for its calendar widget for 3 years now, and there is none that are good enough aside from that, and the damn thing crashes contantly on ice cream sandwich. Not to mention, you can't have a seperate launcher for webtop, so you're stuck with the stock sucky one, or having one built for a phone on the webtop. The webtop itself is just terrible, it's not even a tablet image, it looks like it's just a scaled up version of the one already on the phone with the tablet status bar. I used to run firefox in one window, and something else in the mobile view on the old one, can't do that anymore. From what i've seen, i cant go back either. Finally, i havent been able to get any usb mass storage devices to mount on the phone via OTG cable, but a usb mouse works just fine. Neither fat32 nor NTFS would work, even though they both work on my ice cream sandwich tablet, and are supposed to be supported. This "update" is just terrible and i have no idea how any of you can say it's so much better....
i miss ome things fro GB, but i love some of the things of ICS, it goes both ways for me. i like the loook of ics, the lockscreen, camera. hate the home screen, appdrawer (cant long press home screen for widgets), this ics is slower then my GB, smoother but slower, it does a better job at hiding lag. and the battery life on my ics is about 3-5 hours less then it was on GB. i hate how there is no google chrome for this ics version, really annoying cause i was using it on some of the other ics leaks and fell in love with it. but now its not on this ics version and by far one of the best things about ICS is webtop 3.0. GB was on 2.0 and i hated it compared to the 3.0, 2.0 was ugly and lacking customization and had poor and ugly UI. webtop 3.0 just makes me so happy.
as more updates roll out (eventually) ill be a little more satisfied with ICS
I just received a GSM XT910 Razr a few days ago, and have been holding out on even using it in hopes of the ICS update rolling out for it within the next few days or so. I'm starting to wonder if I should even bother waiting anymore and should just keep it on Gingerbread, given how much complaints I'm already reading on ICS. This is the exact same scenario with my current phone, an Sony Xperia Arc...the ICS update did NOT do it any favors and there's been widespread reports of ICS being incredibly laggy on it. I ended up deciding to leave my Arc on Gingerbread.
It's ironic how everybody's been making ICS sound like it's an absolute must-have for months upon months now, and yet when it's finally released, it seems like such a botched job for most phones thus far. I know somebody with a T-mobile Galaxy SII that got their ICS update only to find all sorts of problems with it as well. I think the bottom line is, unless you're running a Nexus device, ICS is nothing to write home about.
If I hear about any more possible delays to an ICS update for the unlocked XT910, which it's starting to look more and more like what will happen, I may very well just forget about ICS and stick to Gingerbread...
me me me..!
i miss BEATS AUDIO plugin..!
is there any way to port it in ICS???
ICS has gotten way more hype than it deserves, but it is a major improvement over GB. I like the look much better, although there are a couple of things I wish MOTO had incorporated, like power toggles on the pull down notification and the accurate battery.
I have noticed some people comment that they don't like Sense, but they don't say why. It seems fine to me. Can anyone tell me the downside?
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It's a resource hog, plain and simple. The look and feel isn't bad, better than some of the other overlays for sure, but I much prefer stock Google for look and feel too.
With 3.6 and earlier, I didn't really care too much about Sense, but over time I started to really appreciate how they included everything I need instead of only a few things that don't work so well. I really don't like AOSP widgets, for example.
Then when Sense 4 came around, I knew I loved Sense after all. It's so polished and usable.
Maybe if I used widgets, I'd like Sense better. The only widget I run regularly is weather.
One of the things I find so invaluable about Sense is the calendar widgets. They are by far the best I've ever used on Android, and I've yet to find a Google Play app that provides widgets on the same level.
The music app on Sense is also really decent already and integrates perfectly with the lock screen.
Oh, and Peep is pretty decent as well. The Twitter app it comes with is rather nice.
I don't like sense. There's too many visual elements that do t look right, even in sense 4. If I took the time to theme it just the way i like it, I might be able to enjoy it. But AOSP is so much smoother and faster.
The only thing I love about sense is that clock widget. I can never get the clones to work properly with my set up D:
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I don't like sense. There's too many visual elements that do t look right, even in sense 4. If I took the time to theme it just the way i like it, I might be able to enjoy it. But AOSP is so much smoother and faster.
The only thing I love about sense is that clock widget. I can never get the clones to work properly with my set up D:
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The only problem is that weird in call voice bug Nd the camera sucks on aosp
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It's cool but I just get bored with it. It feels simple.
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The only problem is that weird in call voice bug Nd the camera sucks on aosp
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I've never used AOSP on the Rezound (I don't even have my Rez anymore) so I don't know what that's like
I love sense personally. And since 4, sense 4.1, and sense 4.5 all have lots to like about them.
I like AOSP too, but I get bored with it after a little while and miss sense.
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No. Boo on Sense.
I like sense, but its all I've used since my eris, inc1 and inc2. My wife has moto and I hate the look of it. I have flashed aosp roms before. Aosp is faster and smoother, but I don't like having to spend all the time to set up the look of my phone and the widgets aren't that greatand stock camera leaves a lot to be desired. Sense widgets are really useful and polished and the camera is one of the best. And it looks good already so I don't have to download a lot of themes and widgets from the market if I don't want to. I read an article that said sense takes away from the enginuity or innovation of android. But most android updates have included things that sense already incorporated previously. I had multi-touch pinch zoom and flash on donut, android added it in eclair. Sense had pinch to show all your homescreens in froyo but stock android didn't add it until gingerbread. But as mentioned before, it is a resource hog and you will get the most from your hardware with aosp. So its a give and take and really up to the user, but I prefer it.
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The sense 4 launcher is great. And that is it.
Loved the speed and simplicity of AOSP but the camera absolutely blows when compared to Sense.
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Loved the speed and simplicity of AOSP but the camera absolutely blows when compared to Sense.
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This.
webleeper said:
Loved the speed and simplicity of AOSP but the camera absolutely blows when compared to Sense.
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Totally agree. I never realized how ****ty the stock camera was until I started comparing my images from before AOSP and after switching to AOSP. Now that I am stuck with this ****ty AOSP camera, I am starting to realize why so damn many people use that stupid Instagram app!
I like some of the integrations that Sense has. It's gotten better, but it's still a bit sluggish to me. I've flopped back and forth between AOSP and Sense ROMs.
I liked Skyraider back on my thunderbolt, but that was 2.1. I liked the look of 4.0 but didn't really enjoy the feeling til 4.1. I switch between aosp and sense basically every other day. Lol.
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Of ALL the mobile operating systems out there, plain old vanilla Android is far and away the ugliest, most unrefined SOB in the group. It NEEDS something to dress it up. I actually wish Sense would go further. Like how about a real dictionary? BlackBerry and Apple put Android to shame in that department. And why do Android stock widgets have to be so unsightly and feature poor? Android's stock camera app has pretty much sucked on just about every device I've ever flashed it on, too. I'm perfectly happy to sacrifice speed for functionality if all the speed is doing is making another ugly, unrefined app, widget, or screen appear before me quicker. I've never handed a phone to someone after flashing AOSP on it and have them say "Hot damn, that ugly crap is FAST!", but I have handed phones to people with tight custom ROMs and fast kernels and had them say "Wow... This is the smoothest (fill in the blank) I've ever seen!"
aosp is ugly and boring. seems very utilitarian. I love how my rezound looks, but performance wise, I like the speed of aosp. I'm a certified sense lover, especially after having the nexus and the s3, and I can't wait for the dlx running the newest version.
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What do you think about the leaked screenshots of Sense 5?
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2013/01/heres-a-sneak-peak-at-the-htc-sense-5-keyboard-and-dialer/
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2013/01/the-design-of-the-htc-m7-has-finally-been-revealed/
I personally think the dialer for sure looks way better than in Sense 4. Hopefully this will be ported whenever some Roms come out! *wishfulthinking*
Looks like some of the keyboard themes I've already come across in the past year.
I have yet to see a stable sense 4.5 (ignoring the 3D), and you are already dreaming of sense 5? Gonna take a loong while. Also, there are literally thousands of keyboards out there, i am pretty sure you can find one like that if you would search
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I actually like the new sense ui. Not really a big fan of sense anymore since I went with aosp jellybean ROM. From the leeked specs I'm practically drooling over the hardware specs and new sense now lol. Giving the variety of carrier options I hope to see it come to Verizon and switch over to that phone when it comes out.
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I actually like the new sense ui. Not really a big fan of sense anymore since I went with aosp jellybean ROM. From the leeked specs I'm practically drooling over the hardware specs and new sense now lol. Giving the variety of carrier options I hope to see it come to Verizon and switch over to that phone when it comes out.
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Used to be a huge fan of Sense( loved the Sense keyboard predictions in my language), but since I tried JB 4.2.1 AOKP, the old boy sense doesn't make any sense anymore. Also I will not change my phone until the poor thing dies. I saw some pics with sense 5, nice, but as someone said, we may wait some time until is available for evo via XDA ofc, or maybe we won't have Sense5 at all.
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In leaked screenshots it does look a bit nicer and more professional look rather than that childish iOS-ish look but for some reason i really don't like the Browser & Camera icon, the Text and Phone icons look good tough.
I like the new jellybean 4.2.1 . Im running dastins cm 10.1 stable as hell with all features working minus the occasional glitches in video camcorder.
Some lucky b has sense 5 already
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37016666#post37016666