I'm not discrediting DG in any way, but does anyone think that these leaks for various Galaxy devices were put out by AT&T to the dev scene to find the bugs that aren't spotted in the internal test group.
Maybe we are THE test group, or at least a test group?
hopefully!
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Actually thats exactly what i think...but its a good thing because the majority of the people on the boards are probably better than the shmucks they have to test with
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I know if I was an OEM dev I would follow these forums and CM development pretty closely.
To spot bugs/wants and maybe snipe some talent.
What diff does it make.
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If that's what's happening then its a win win for everyone. The dev community is happy and att can save some cash and get better testing on a large user base.
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I was thinking the samething yesterday. It has to be. Why wouldn't u the development in these forums are way better. We are pretty much R&D for them. It makes their job that much easier.
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Also, anyone that bricks their phone in the process has voided their warranty, so there is no monetary loss on AT&T/Samsung's end.
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I'm not discrediting DG in any way, but does anyone think that these leaks for various Galaxy devices were put out by AT&T to the dev scene to find the bugs that aren't spotted in the internal test group.
Maybe we are THE test group, or at least a test group?
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makes sense to me
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I'm expecting a simultaneous ICS rollout across all eligible Samsung devices on AT&T.
This is not the case...
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so what?
We are the guinea pigs but Its ok because we got to taste ICS and its yummy!
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
Even if we are a 'test group' that at&t envisioned, and this ICS leak turns out to be basically flawless for most of us, I still wouldn't be surprised to see at&t take forever to do an OTA for this.
OP reads too much into it. Leaks like this is nothing new. We've got many leaks back in Captivate days. Some by Samfirmware.com, some by DesignGears and Some by Chainfire.
It's doesn't mean AT&T is using us to test drive it (imagine all the supporting cost involved if someone bricked the phone by un-successfully flashing the new firmware). It doesn't mean an official release is immenent either. I got Captivate GB leak installed on my Captivate back in Aug. 2011 and yet the offiical GB wasn't released until Feb. 2012.
Rememeber, all the leaks are full ROM. You are not going to keep your existing app and data. Official releases are always upgrades where you get to keep all your apps, settings and data. Such upgrades are never leaked out, only the full ROM.
The man has a source.. Not some random decision by ATT to just hand out beta builds. If it weren't for dg and his people we'd probably still be waiting months for ICS.
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Was going to say... I know that DG speaks the truth there. I dont think samsung is leaking this on purpose for us to test. These are real leaks
Just happy they are here.
I believe these "leaks" are done on purpose. They can only test these things in a lab or on test equipment so much. Companies like AT&T and Samsung need people like us using our phones in the real world for our day to day things to see how good they work. They then read these forums to see what people say about what does and does not work then take that to their labs to "fix". They may not participate in these forums but they do lurk here.
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does anyone think that these leaks for various Galaxy devices were put out by AT&T to the dev scene to find the bugs that aren't spotted in the internal test group.
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This wouldn't be the first time. This happened more than you guys think. And it's not necessarily a bad thing either.
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How did ics turn into a conspiracy theory? Does this subject have a point? What is the goal here? Listen we've got Ics to build on... Let's encourage our developers to do just that by not taking shots at them like this...
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... Let's encourage our developers to do just that by not taking shots at them like this...
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Wtf? What the HELL are you talking about?
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is any dev working on new rom?
you have to be patient & bare with it. It's always slow in the beginning & it picks up later on. Tomorrow I'll be switching from a N7000 to i717 but it will be well worth it in the long run.
I heard Team Kang (AOKP) and Codename want to release a rom for us. Maybe in the next few weeks or in few months, that's what we don't know.
I just Rooted, put cwm, and overclocked thanks to da-g. Check out his posts in development forums... seems to be working really well!
All of his files are found here... http://m-s-j.net/dagnarf/
Before you go there check of this post...Overclocking:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504920
Rooting:+more
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1518962
Good luck!
have you checked out saurom? i just flashed my phone with it a couple days ago
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I heard Team Kang (AOKP) and Codename want to release a rom for us. Maybe in the next few weeks or in few months, that's what we don't know.
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Source?
And our problem is that we only have a couple of devs and relatively low interest in this device all together
It's only been a month... You can't ask for a source for something and then claim something equally unbelievable. You all need to calm down. It's been one freaking month.
If you're going to keep knocking the device, why are you still here?
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It's only been a month... You can't ask for a source for something and then claim something equally unbelievable. You all need to calm down. It's been one freaking month.
If you're going to keep knocking the device, why are you still here?
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I simply haven't heard anything about aokp for this device when not a single dev has mentioned anything about an ics build. although I'm sure we'll see something after the official ics release.
How am I knocking the device? I like my note. It's safe to say this won't have as wide of a dev adoption as the s2, Atrix, skyrocket, and one x. Mostly due to the release schedule.
I'm still here because this is still one of my hobbies
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I simply haven't heard anything about aokp for this device when not a single dev has mentioned anything about an ics build. although I'm sure we'll see something after the official ics release.
How am I knocking the device? I like my note. It's safe to say this won't have as wide of a dev adoption as the s2, Atrix, skyrocket, and one x. Mostly due to the release schedule.
I'm still here because this is still one of my hobbies
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You do like the device? Every post of yours I see is you ripping the device and all its problems, real or perceived.
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If you think the atrix has had good development for its entire life, you're sorely mistaken. It took even longer for the atrix to get a proper rom compared to us.
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It's safe to say this won't have as wide of a dev adoption as the s2, Atrix, skyrocket, and one x.
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Just an FYI, I had an Atrix on day one and the same things were said about it a month after release (not much dev adoption, low interest in device, etc). So if the Atrix has such great adoption and dev support, then I think it's safe to say it's only a matter of time for this device, too.
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Just an FYI, I had an Atrix on day one and the same things were said about it a month after release (not much dev adoption, low interest in device, etc). So if the Atrix has such great adoption and dev support, then I think it's safe to say it's only a matter of time for this device, too.
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Yup, had Atrix on launch day, everyone said the same thing. Man.. that was a long road... I don't think we had a proper CWM until maybe..4-6 months in? Lol, it was such a volatile forum. Everyone hating everyone.
There's definitely a lot of development going on there now so we good. Not as crazy as other phones though, but pretty good.
The collective has two roms coming out real soon
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The collective has two roms coming out real soon
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can't wait..
dsmitty166 said:
The collective has two roms coming out real soon
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I hope you are right!!!!
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I come from the HD2. When I got the phone, it was so hard to get that there were entire threads dedicated to when/where you got yours. Every store sold out the day the trucks ran, sometimes within minutes.
It took forever to get a decent version of Android to boot up, and for an entire year we were stuck with SD versions until they finally got a hacked-up bootloader that could get NAND installed.
Even today, that is one of the heaviest dev'd phones this forum has ever seen, running every version of Windows Mobile, Android and even several flavors of Linux. I don't think that this phone will come close to the activity seen there, but if it does I wouldn't expect to have this phone completely unlocked and running as many ROMs as the HD2 any time this year.
Many people keep saying, "It's only been a month!" and I can only agree with that. I would be disappointed but not surprised to see no significant developments on this phone in the next 4 months. As a matter of fact, I really expect to see an official ICS release before CM9 hits us.
But I've been wrong before...
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I hope you are right!!!!
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Of course I'm right, I'm testing them both right now
When you say "real soon" do u mean within the coming few days?
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When you say "real soon" do u mean within the coming few days?
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The last I knew, one of them "might" be coming out in the next few days, not sure on the other
TWO roms from the Collective?
Why TWO? What is so significant between them that requires TWO different versions? Unless one is for the international version and one for the ATT version (the only thing I can think of)...
I am going to be cutting my ties to big red and am going to get a gnote1 from Swappa or somewhere (attention version) and go to straight Talk. I have read through lots of threads and I think with the gnote2 coming soon I would just get a great deal on the gnote1.
So my question is to the people or even the developers. Would you stick with the 1 or go to the 2. Will Samsung support this device for awhile?
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Well if you're looking for a 1, try canadagsm.ca. $525
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Well if you're looking for a 1, try canadagsm.ca. $525
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Swappa has them rooted for less than 4
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And they are all over craigslist for less than $200. Use a little common sense here. Once the Note2 is released many Devs and Recognized Contributors will move on. That is a fact of life here on XDA. It has and will always be this way. So development will slow but there will be development. Samsung has spoken that there should be a JB release for this phone. Not much more that can be said.
Galaxy Note
Samsung will at least support Jelly Bean - past that, I don't know. That being said, it's a great phone with a lot of potential, could definitely last you a while. I'm not sure when the Note 2 is coming out, but I've seen rumors of an Oct 24 release. When that day hits, you might see a larger drop in note 1 prices.
Thank you for your responses. I ended up getting one. I am loving it so far. For what I have read there seems to be lots of emphasis on kernels and "modems"?
I am familiar with flashing roms and flashing kernels for a rom. But not modems?
I just downloaded cm9 so well see how it goes.
Again thank you for your responses
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If you have no issues with your phone or data connection then there is no reason to flash a modem. If it is working, don't mess with it. Kernels are really only needed for another level of customization or to overclock. If the custom ROM you install does well then again feel fortunate and leave it alone. If there are issues then others in the ROMs thread and even the Dev will recommend kernels to try.
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If you have no issues with your phone or data connection then there is no reason to flash a modem. If it is working, don't mess with it. Kernels are really only needed for another level of customization or to overclock. If the custom ROM you install does well then again feel fortunate and leave it alone. If there are issues then others in the ROMs thread and even the Dev will recommend kernels to try.
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I will keep this in mind. Thanks for your knowledge. I am new to Samsung so I am not sure about certain things. I have owned all htc devices. So I am on a steep learning curve.
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I loved this phone is did a lot of research and reviewed videos on this phone before I got it and it looked beast. I'm disappointed that there is SO LITTLE development with this phone, I'm thinking about switching to a more popular phone that everyone actually knows and cares to build roms for and support I really like this phone ,but again it just needs way more attention for me. Anyone else feels this way?
PhonePhan said:
I loved this phone is did a lot of research and reviewed videos on this phone before I got it and it looked beast. I'm disappointed that there is SO LITTLE development with this phone, I'm thinking about switching to a more popular phone that everyone actually knows and cares to build roms for and support I really like this phone ,but again it just needs way more attention for me. Anyone else feels this way?
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Patience is key. You can't force a dev to make a ROM or "develop" for a device. They have lives as well. Everything is pretty close to being here.
Besides if your not likening the "Development" you can always try and make a ROM buddy. Then maybe you can see how its not done overnight.
Oh look this thread again
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On the One X we went months before we had what we have here. Locked boot loader, an unrootable stock release and no source.
How can you call the Free Gee project and the N4 conversion and such slow development? /boggle
I felt the same way at first, and I am probably going to buy the moto X phone or the gsIV, but right now you just gotta find a room you like and settle into it.
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Btw I came to this phone from the sgs3. A huge dev section isn't the only thing to base buying a phone.on. this phone has some sweet hardware. Excellent build quality, and awesome speed. I'm in love.
@Phonephan, I totally hear where you're coming from. I would have hoped for more options by now as well, but I knew what I was getting into when I picked this bad boy up and that there was the chance its potential would go unrealized. However, Rome wasn't built in a day and there have been some unique challenges that some very good developers are about to overcome. Our empire is about to be built! We've already got a solid JB build that doesn't require conversion thanks to SnowLeopardJB. There are a couple solid ICS ROM's as well (shout out to team nocturnal, nygfan, etc.) The real treats are just around the corner and if you check in to the irc chat room you will see just how close. Hang in there bro, you'll be glad you did.
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PhonePhan said:
I loved this phone is did a lot of research and reviewed videos on this phone before I got it and it looked beast. I'm disappointed that there is SO LITTLE development with this phone, I'm thinking about switching to a more popular phone that everyone actually knows and cares to build roms for and support I really like this phone ,but again it just needs way more attention for me. Anyone else feels this way?
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You need an N4. Oh wait this phone can become one... What are you looking for that the existing custom stock roms or conversion don't provide?
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dnorthington said:
You need an N4. Oh wait this phone can become one... What are you looking for that the existing custom stock roms or conversion don't provide?
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Nexus 4 with GPS and LTE.
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whats a rom?
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whats a rom?
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half of a rom-com?
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whats a rom?
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Something that wasn't built in a day?
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Ah well I've never built one of those. All mine take a few hours
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This thread needs to get closed before things get ugly...
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A rom is a pile of code that makes my sh!t look cooler than the dude's phone next to me... aka, bragging rights!
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There are devs lurking, just be patient and see what happens. Until then go convert your Optimus G to an N4 like others have stated..
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Funny to think that just a few years ago modifying the OS on your phone was not an option. Now folks cry when they don't have 100 variations of the same base rom within a week or two.
Maybe buy a device you like next time. Or wait longer and not buy the device on launch day, that way you can give the dev community time to work thereby ensuring you get an active community to take care of your flashing fix.
Why exactly do you feel the need to tell us that you're leaving? Did you do any development? Write any documentation? Are you afraid we wouldn't notice you were gone?
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Seriously!? We have an ICS phone that developers have transformed into an upgraded nexus 4. Other developers have domesticated foreign JB Roms so well that this phone has every feature enabled today. We may only have a few topics... But major progress happens in them. This is the height of Android options with native pure Google and branded on the most recent versions.
You can install Roms from 3 forums onto this phone... US OG, Intl OG and N4.
The conversion will really pay off in six months when this is the first device with SD card and full android 5 while every other phone has gmail 5... Converted to 4.1
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Okay...
Didn't see that coming. If you look at my post I said I'm possibly getting a new phone not telling you I am and I was asking people if they felt the same. Also it's been months since its release so the fact that it's only 2 real ROMs for this phone makes me upset no, disrespect to devs obviously but it does seem like this phone is getting like no attention and it's one if the best phones out. Converting to n4 is a bit too much just to enjoy this phone. This phone was meant to be an LGOG not a nexus ..it would have been named nexus
Anyways that was just a thought/concern I had about the phone.. Don't see why people are offended?
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Nobody bothered to develop ICS Roms other than pretty much stock based ones since we were promised Jelly Bean so early and obviously that didn't happen. Once Jelly Bean gets officially released, I know the devs will be all over it and Roms won't be an issue. The nexus 4 conversion is easy to do, I did it intoxicated twice. So either do that or just be patient. We're just waiting on AT&T now
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...4-1-2-build-ls970zvb-starting-to-trickle-out/
Joecascio2000 said:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...4-1-2-build-ls970zvb-starting-to-trickle-out/
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Don't hold your breath...
Also, better things are forthcoming...
Was this official ota's or just a soak test?
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Was this official ota's or just a soak test?
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It is unsure at this point.
From the link in the OP.
All with nary a word from The Now Network, which is usually pretty on top of announcing updates for devices. Ergo, at this point, we're not entirely sure if this is the start of a full-on rollout or just a "soak test" of sorts. We're thinking the former, but until official word is muttered from the lips of Sprint, it's a crapshoot.
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From having previous experience with Att and Android it could still be a while. Att gets in no hurry for updates. I don't know what is involved with their testing of new firmware but it's ridiculous.
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From having previous experience with Att and Android it could still be a while. Att gets in no hurry for updates. I don't know what is involved with their testing of new firmware but it's ridiculous.
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I think the testing isn't what kills it... I think att doesn't test at all half the time. What do they have to lose if we don't get updates. People rarely get mad at carriers when the manufacturer can be blamed.
It would not surprise me find out att won't push the update because it says "lg" at the top of the phone instead of "att"
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I think the testing isn't what kills it... I think att doesn't test at all half the time. What do they have to lose if we don't get updates. People rarely get mad at carriers when the manufacturer can be blamed.
It would not surprise me find out att won't push the update because it says "lg" at the top of the phone instead of "att"
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and why incur the cost, if there's virtually no recourse for not releasing the updated OS. But if that's going to be the case, have the manufacturer release the upgrades, requiring that their own crapware is included in the release.
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and why incur the cost, if there's virtually no recourse for not releasing the updated OS. But if that's going to be the case, have the manufacturer release the upgrades, requiring that their own crapware is included in the release.
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Guys, you've got to remember that us, the people on XDA, arent the majority. Most people don't know what jellybean is and if they do they couldn't tell you the difference in jelly bean and ICS. AT&T knows this so they don't bother with updates, they're lazy and couldn't care less about the minority. Honestly, i don't think any of the people who handle the updates at AT&T know whats new in jellybean. Maybe they should hire some xda devs to handle their updates haha
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Guys, you've got to remember that us, the people on XDA, arent the majority. Most people don't know what jellybean is and if they do they couldn't tell you the difference in jelly bean and ICS. AT&T knows this so they don't bother with updates, they're lazy and couldn't care less about the minority. Honestly, i don't think any of the people who handle the updates at AT&T know whats new in jellybean. Maybe they should hire some xda devs to handle their updates haha
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Heck, with how well this phone runs on ICS, aside from getting Google Now I'm still not entirely clear on what the JB ROMs we have give us, and I generally pay attention to these things...
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bassitone said:
Heck, with how well this phone runs on ICS, aside from getting Google Now I'm still not entirely clear on what the JB ROMs we have give us, and I generally pay attention to these things...
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I completely agree, I'm honestly kinda scared that the jellybean update could make the experience worse, at least an official update. This is the best phone I've ever used, even with ICS and little rom support. We've got great devs and even the stock experience isnt bad. Plus, google now is cool but I'm happy with this phone as is, I've got my nexus 7 for that haha
I had CM10.1 on my last phone, I really don't feel like I'm missing anything significant at all with rooted stock ics on this phone...
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I'm happy with rooted stock as well, except that I am hoping for a reduction in the excessive msm_hsic_host wakelocks that drain our batteries (seems this was fixed on the Nexus 4).
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I completely agree, I'm honestly kinda scared that the jellybean update could make the experience worse, at least an official update. This is the best phone I've ever used, even with ICS and little rom support. We've got great devs and even the stock experience isnt bad. Plus, google now is cool but I'm happy with this phone as is, I've got my nexus 7 for that haha
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It's quite a bit faster on jellybean and has Google now and a different font and a better modem.
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Heck, with how well this phone runs on ICS, aside from getting Google Now I'm still not entirely clear on what the JB ROMs we have give us, and I generally pay attention to these things...
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does this means that a dev could get the update rom from sprint and port it to att? or are the phones too much dissimilar to do that?
We have jelly bean already. I am running the version found in the developer section and I love it
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We have jelly bean already. I am running the version found in the developer section and I love it
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I've been on SnowJB for a while now. It's still about the principle. Sprint released jb, even if it is just a soak test. AT&T is usually the last to get out updates for devices that have been released on multiple carriers. From my experience and research it is usually T-Mobile first, Sprint second, and ATT/Verizon tied for last.
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No update anytime soon. Trust me. Att wants you to buy new hardware. (Lgog pro)
They make money buy getting new contracts. After new og hits we get jb. I had HTC vivid there was no ICS till onex was out
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Which version of the LGOG sold world wide is closest to ours?
i'm used to the One X and Rogers&At&T being identical.
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No update anytime soon. Trust me. Att wants you to buy new hardware. (Lgog pro)
They make money buy getting new contracts. After new og hits we get jb. I had HTC vivid there was no ICS till onex was out
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That makes no sense because everyone who bought a LGOG shouldn't be anywhere close to getting another two-year contract. The LGOG is only 5 months old.
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That makes no sense because everyone who bought a LGOG shouldn't be anywhere close to getting another two-year contract. The LGOG is only 5 months old.
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Definitely. I'd like to see things out faster, too, but you hear a lot of pure speculation and conspiracy theories around here.
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As the One X on our beloved AT&t received 4.1 today, I take it as a sign we too shall receive it!
In 8 to 10 business months.
This was meant as a stress relief exercise. Please do not over exert from laughter.
Also, I know many out there hate stock with a passion. Let's keep this thread free of angry insults and hurled accusations. Thank ya much.
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AT&T wont release jelly bean for LGOG til the pro comes out. they want people to buy a new device and renew their contracts with the pro. less people would with LGOG having jelly bean.
Personally, I don't think AT&T cares what devices are out, they make their money on contracts, not devices.
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AT&T wont release jelly bean for LGOG til the pro comes out. they want people to buy a new device and renew their contracts with the pro. less people would with LGOG having jelly bean.
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I personally don't agree with this.
The vast majority of consumers don't know what version of android is on what device.
They won't even know.
And it shouldn't matter what device people buy, as long as they extend their contracts.
Also, stock isn't too bad on this phone.
I seriously could not care less when we have a ROM that's pretty much exactly what the stock update is going to be with SnowJB. Plus we've got AOSP, AOKP, and CM10 on the way. Not to mention The Base and other ROMs I'm neglecting to mention. If you're on XDA you likely don't need an official Jellybean release. I'm not a huge fan of this news being posted all over. We have better updates than what will ever come out. Who cares?
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chrisphoenix7 said:
As the One X on our beloved AT&t received 4.1 today, I take it as a sign we too shall receive it!
In 8 to 10 business months.
This was meant as a stress relief exercise. Please do not over exert from laughter.
Also, I know many out there hate stock with a passion. Let's keep this thread free of angry insults and hurled accusations. Thank ya much.
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Cmon, buddy. Didn't you just ask to have a nearly identical thread closed?
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Sprint is rolling out the 4.1 update to their LGOG now.
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I care. Official release means official source. Snowjb is great but official release would be better
gunnyman said:
I care. Official release means official source. Snowjb is great but official release would be better
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I thought they had 6 months to release official source once they put out an update...
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TangoXray said:
Cmon, buddy. Didn't you just ask to have a nearly identical thread closed?
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This one was meant to be more of a joke thread, as I stated earlier. I was being sarcastic. I was poking fun at the earlier thread.
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Jank4AU said:
I thought they had 6 months to release official source once they put out an update...
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... And wasn't there a problem with the source code being released in a manner that was difficult to work with?
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bleached45 said:
I personally don't agree with this.
The vast majority of consumers don't know what version of android is on what device.
They won't even know.
And it shouldn't matter what device people buy, as long as they extend their contracts.
Also, stock isn't too bad on this phone.
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I don't know any android user that doesn't know what version of android is on their device. I can think of atleast 20 people. Most people are educated enough these days to know what they have and what newer version is out. They may not know how to root or modify like my sister but she does know when her iPhone doesn't have the newest iOS.
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freebee269 said:
I don't know any android user that doesn't know what version of android is on their device. I can think of atleast 20 people. Most people are educated enough these days to know what they have and what newer version is out. They may not know how to root or modify like my sister but she does know when her iPhone doesn't have the newest iOS.
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Then it seems most of my acquaintances... are not super bright.
But in all honesty, the everyday consumer really doesn't know. With Android so fragmented and most devices hardly receiving updates, I can think of a lot of people I know that don't know. They aren't tech people, they just want a smartphone.
I've had to walk friends through getting to the about phone settings just so they could find out what version they were on.
On iOS devices, everybody (or just about) has the latest update available to them; and even then, they really don't know what the hell is going on.
It is amazing how many people out there don't know much of anything about technology, and have no idea what their devices are capable of.
who needs att to release jb when snowjb is already here and its wonderfully debloated!
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The fact that sprint is releasing right now but it seems that att isn't even close has me fuming. I know there are great releases out there but I'm just mad because it seems that att doesn't care at all
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How long did it take att to release an update for the LG Thrill? That might be a good guesstimate for the Optimus G...
Took them 8 mo from the release of the one x (July to march) for this JB.
I also like to use my Inspire as an example. Promised Jellybean, and it was a giant no-show. Thank god for our Devs.
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I also like to use my Inspire as an example. Promised Jellybean, and it was a giant no-show. Thank god for our Devs.
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Funny thing is, neither AT&T nor HTC said ICS was coming to the Inspire, only HTC said it then retracted it for the Desire HD, international version.
Such a mess these updates are.
abraxo said:
The fact that sprint is releasing right now but it seems that att isn't even close has me fuming. I know there are great releases out there but I'm just mad because it seems that att doesn't care at all
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It's clear from what we've seen from other carriers around the world, that the lack of official Jellybean is totally on AT&T. I love this phone, but it looks like the only way to keep current is to depend on our devs and with brand new shiny coming out very soon I suspect we will lose quite a few of them. I realize brand new shiny phones are always coming out, but the next crop of devices are slated to be real power houses.
iamtha1 said:
who needs att to release jb when snowjb is already here and its wonderfully debloated!
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I do...I'm over flashing ROM's that have half working features or the occasional bug that causes my phone to reboot in the middle of a game or phone call.