http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...4-1-2-build-ls970zvb-starting-to-trickle-out/
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Don't hold your breath...
Also, better things are forthcoming...
Was this official ota's or just a soak test?
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Was this official ota's or just a soak test?
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It is unsure at this point.
From the link in the OP.
All with nary a word from The Now Network, which is usually pretty on top of announcing updates for devices. Ergo, at this point, we're not entirely sure if this is the start of a full-on rollout or just a "soak test" of sorts. We're thinking the former, but until official word is muttered from the lips of Sprint, it's a crapshoot.
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From having previous experience with Att and Android it could still be a while. Att gets in no hurry for updates. I don't know what is involved with their testing of new firmware but it's ridiculous.
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From having previous experience with Att and Android it could still be a while. Att gets in no hurry for updates. I don't know what is involved with their testing of new firmware but it's ridiculous.
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I think the testing isn't what kills it... I think att doesn't test at all half the time. What do they have to lose if we don't get updates. People rarely get mad at carriers when the manufacturer can be blamed.
It would not surprise me find out att won't push the update because it says "lg" at the top of the phone instead of "att"
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I think the testing isn't what kills it... I think att doesn't test at all half the time. What do they have to lose if we don't get updates. People rarely get mad at carriers when the manufacturer can be blamed.
It would not surprise me find out att won't push the update because it says "lg" at the top of the phone instead of "att"
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and why incur the cost, if there's virtually no recourse for not releasing the updated OS. But if that's going to be the case, have the manufacturer release the upgrades, requiring that their own crapware is included in the release.
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and why incur the cost, if there's virtually no recourse for not releasing the updated OS. But if that's going to be the case, have the manufacturer release the upgrades, requiring that their own crapware is included in the release.
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Guys, you've got to remember that us, the people on XDA, arent the majority. Most people don't know what jellybean is and if they do they couldn't tell you the difference in jelly bean and ICS. AT&T knows this so they don't bother with updates, they're lazy and couldn't care less about the minority. Honestly, i don't think any of the people who handle the updates at AT&T know whats new in jellybean. Maybe they should hire some xda devs to handle their updates haha
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Guys, you've got to remember that us, the people on XDA, arent the majority. Most people don't know what jellybean is and if they do they couldn't tell you the difference in jelly bean and ICS. AT&T knows this so they don't bother with updates, they're lazy and couldn't care less about the minority. Honestly, i don't think any of the people who handle the updates at AT&T know whats new in jellybean. Maybe they should hire some xda devs to handle their updates haha
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Heck, with how well this phone runs on ICS, aside from getting Google Now I'm still not entirely clear on what the JB ROMs we have give us, and I generally pay attention to these things...
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Heck, with how well this phone runs on ICS, aside from getting Google Now I'm still not entirely clear on what the JB ROMs we have give us, and I generally pay attention to these things...
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I completely agree, I'm honestly kinda scared that the jellybean update could make the experience worse, at least an official update. This is the best phone I've ever used, even with ICS and little rom support. We've got great devs and even the stock experience isnt bad. Plus, google now is cool but I'm happy with this phone as is, I've got my nexus 7 for that haha
I had CM10.1 on my last phone, I really don't feel like I'm missing anything significant at all with rooted stock ics on this phone...
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I'm happy with rooted stock as well, except that I am hoping for a reduction in the excessive msm_hsic_host wakelocks that drain our batteries (seems this was fixed on the Nexus 4).
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I completely agree, I'm honestly kinda scared that the jellybean update could make the experience worse, at least an official update. This is the best phone I've ever used, even with ICS and little rom support. We've got great devs and even the stock experience isnt bad. Plus, google now is cool but I'm happy with this phone as is, I've got my nexus 7 for that haha
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It's quite a bit faster on jellybean and has Google now and a different font and a better modem.
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Heck, with how well this phone runs on ICS, aside from getting Google Now I'm still not entirely clear on what the JB ROMs we have give us, and I generally pay attention to these things...
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does this means that a dev could get the update rom from sprint and port it to att? or are the phones too much dissimilar to do that?
We have jelly bean already. I am running the version found in the developer section and I love it
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We have jelly bean already. I am running the version found in the developer section and I love it
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I've been on SnowJB for a while now. It's still about the principle. Sprint released jb, even if it is just a soak test. AT&T is usually the last to get out updates for devices that have been released on multiple carriers. From my experience and research it is usually T-Mobile first, Sprint second, and ATT/Verizon tied for last.
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No update anytime soon. Trust me. Att wants you to buy new hardware. (Lgog pro)
They make money buy getting new contracts. After new og hits we get jb. I had HTC vivid there was no ICS till onex was out
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Which version of the LGOG sold world wide is closest to ours?
i'm used to the One X and Rogers&At&T being identical.
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No update anytime soon. Trust me. Att wants you to buy new hardware. (Lgog pro)
They make money buy getting new contracts. After new og hits we get jb. I had HTC vivid there was no ICS till onex was out
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That makes no sense because everyone who bought a LGOG shouldn't be anywhere close to getting another two-year contract. The LGOG is only 5 months old.
Joecascio2000 said:
That makes no sense because everyone who bought a LGOG shouldn't be anywhere close to getting another two-year contract. The LGOG is only 5 months old.
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Definitely. I'd like to see things out faster, too, but you hear a lot of pure speculation and conspiracy theories around here.
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That really sucks.
Seems like the gist of the message is that US carriers have so much individual bloatware to account for (sprint tv, nascar, vcast, etc) that an HTC or Samsung can't just roll out a generic ICS for each device. That's what sucks.
Almost makes me want to wait until november for the next nexus phone but I can't wait that long and Samsung seems to be on top of their game as far as upgrading to ICS before anyone else.
Yes, Samsung is on top of their game and I can also assure you that once Samsung ICS update.drops, so will their kernel source. There won't be any of the waiting 2-4 months BS that HTC is notorious for to release source.
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Seems like the gist of the message is that US carriers have so much individual bloatware to account for (sprint tv, nascar, vcast, etc) that an HTC or Samsung can't just roll out a generic ICS for each device. That's what sucks.
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Almost makes me want to wait until november for the next nexus phone but I can't wait that long and Samsung seems to be on top of their game as far as upgrading to ICS before anyone else.
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Yes, Samsung is on top of their game and I can also assure you that once Samsung ICS update.drops, so will their kernel source. There won't be any of the waiting 2-4 months BS that HTC is notorious for to release source.
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Hmmm must be recent that Samsung stepped up their game at updating phones.... When I had my Epic 4g (not touch), it took Samsung forever to update to gingerbread.
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Yep pretty much.
Hmmm must be recent that Samsung stepped up their game at updating phones.... When I had my Epic 4g (not touch), it took Samsung forever to update to gingerbread.
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Wont know for sure till a US variant gets an official update... But they seem to be doing a bit better... And the epic 4g (not touch) gingerbread woes are blamed on alot of things but mostly samsungs failed effort of a update in a timely matter
I've just learned to take a deep breath and enjoy what we have, our devs are making some very good highly efficient sense roms. Ics is super cool don't get me wrong, but must of us are stuck on gingerbread for a while. Might as well find a good rom, flash some themes if need be and relax. Very happy with performance and battery life with the 2.17 base sense rom. Its surely good enough to hold me until the end of the year until ics finally drops. :beer:
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Seems like the gist of the message is that US carriers have so much individual bloatware to account for (sprint tv, nascar, vcast, etc) that an HTC or Samsung can't just roll out a generic ICS for each device. That's what sucks.
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Which makes zero sense to me bc there's no way those apps req that much testing to be able for the OS upgrade...
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Which makes zero sense to me bc there's no way those apps req that much testing to be able for the OS upgrade...
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I doubt its just about bloat... HTC sends a build to sprint and they send it back if it has bugs/w.e. And that process is continuous until everything is the way sprint/HTC wants it...
If it was just to add bloat we would have had leaks/ota by now...
(my views/what I heard about it)
I honestly am gonna blame HTC (no support for this phone/constant excuses regarding updates/source)
If they didnt have 50+ devices on the market to deal with (updates and bug fixes) im sure ICS would be here sooner...
Honestly, what's the hype? I flashed ics to my tablet and went right back, not that impressed.
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Honestly, what's the hype? I flashed ics to my tablet and went right back, not that impressed.
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Like any other os... Bettery life... Speed improvments... Hardware acceleration... All marketing features... I still think gingerbread could be improved
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I doubt its just about bloat... HTC sends a build to sprint and they send it back if it has bugs/w.e. And that process is continuous until everything is the way sprint/HTC wants it...
If it was just to add bloat we would have had leaks/ota by now...
(my views/what I heard about it)
I honestly am gonna blame HTC (no support for this phone/constant excuses regarding updates/source)
If they didnt have 50+ devices on the market to deal with (updates and bug fixes) im sure ICS would be here sooner...
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That last part is very true which is why they are trying to downsize the amount of phones they put out this yr
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Yes, Samsung is on top of their game and I can also assure you that once Samsung ICS update.drops, so will their kernel source. There won't be any of the waiting 2-4 months BS that HTC is notorious for to release source.
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My next phone will probably be from Samsung...probably (If they keep it up).
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My next phone will probably be from Samsung...probably (If they keep it up).
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I wouldn't mind MOTO for their radio but they fail everywhere else
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Atrix HD gets Jellybean and were sitting here with nothing!
http://www.phonearena.com/news/AT-Ts-Atrix-HD-getting-a-serving-of-Jelly-Bean-as-well_id37693
Perhaps you should go get an Atrix.
Being happy has very little to do with getting what you want, but a great deal to do with wanting what you have.
Why buy an LG phone and then be upset when your not first to get JellyBean? It's not this should come as a surprise.
/wave
It should have jb! It been out for awhile! but don't worry the OG will get jb, just nobody knows when....
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Perhaps you should go get an Atrix.
Being happy has very little to do with getting what you want, but a great deal to do with wanting what you have.
Why buy an LG phone and then be upset when your not first to get JellyBean? It's not this should come as a surprise.
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My point is that we should have it already and those shows that maybe we will receive it soon
sent from my Optimus G because Optimus Prime was busy....
The atrix is made by a completely different company which has nothing to do with the lgog.
Even if we do get it, it would be a bad idea to update to it.
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AndreaCristiano, just return your LGOG and get another phone.
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AndreaCristiano, just return your LGOG and get another phone.
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nah man im really liking this phone just miss some jellybean features I had on the SGS3.
Snow_fox said:
The atrix is made by a completely different company which has nothing to do with the lgog.
Even if we do get it, it would be a bad idea to update to it.
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yea thanks for the insight, meanwhile that has no bearing on my post, both samsung , LG and moto have released Jellybean yet the moto and samsung have it while our LG doesnt
Then get a phone with JB then come back to the LGOG when JB comes to this phone.
I don't understand why people are complaining about JB. It is not that fascinating. But feel free to annoy people with threads about AMG THIS PHONE HAS JB BEFORE OURS NOW TOO, while we sit here peacefully happy with what we got out of the box.
And your post has no bearing on our devices..... I'm happy for the hd users but it doesn't really affect me either way.
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Then get a phone with JB then come back to the LGOG when JB comes to this phone.
I don't understand why people are complaining about JB. It is not that fascinating. But feel free to annoy people with threads about AMG THIS PHONE HAS JB BEFORE OURS NOW TOO, while we sit here peacefully happy with what we got out of the box.
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if the thread bothered you you didnt have to open it, so please shut up. You people over here on the LG side are a touch jerky. The SGS3 squad was much nicer. No one is offending you personally this is a forum for discussion on these things, about our phones. Its a phone not a kid stop getting so offended people
Despite great reviews people seem to treat this device like it's going to explode.
When you make a completely unrelated post about a completely unrelated device, how do you expect people to respond?
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903tex said:
It should have jb! It been out for awhile! but don't worry the OG will get jb, just nobody knows when....
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1Q of 2013. So April by the latest.
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In all fairness I somewhat agree with the OP just like anybody would. You would EXPECT a phone with these specs to come out the box with jb. Especially sense the x+ has it out the box and similar specs. But what can you do? For the most part enjoy what you got! Most of the time you been running the latest android os on your device before its released official thanks to the great xda devs!
But also you don't know who is watching these threads, so all the fighting and drama queen on here not going to make somebody with the time and patience to think twice about getting or developing on this device...
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903tex said:
In all fairness I somewhat agree with the OP just like anybody would. You would EXPECT a phone with these specs to come out the box with jb. Especially sense the x+ has it out the box and similar specs. But what can you do? For the most part enjoy what you got! Most of the time you been running the latest android os on your device before its released official thanks to the great xda devs!
But also you don't know who is watching these threads, so all the fighting and drama queen on here not going to make somebody with the time and patience to think twice about getting or developing on this device...
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Realistically the reason that LG didn't put JB on the LGOG is because they wanted to boost sales on the nexus 4.
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JB is nice and I had it on the AHD a couple weeks ago and it's not that big of a difference from ICS. Froyo to ICS was a big deal. This jump not so much (to the end user).
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JB is nice and I had it on the AHD a couple weeks ago and it's not that big of a difference from ICS. Froyo to ICS was a big deal. This jump not so much (to the end user).
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I beg to differ....the move from ics to jb woke up my S3 from it's ics nap...
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fmllc said:
I beg to differ....the move from ics to jb woke up my S3 from it's ics nap...
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It's like LG/AT&T/Google decided to kneecap and half-ass both devices. The Nexus has no extra storage or LTE, this has no JB or wireless charging. If they had merged it all into one phone, it would have been a beast and I promise you it would sell better than anything on the market. Every one wins. But they had to mess with the wet dream. What can you do? :banghead:
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It's like LG/AT&T/Google decided to kneecap and half-ass both devices. The Nexus has no extra storage or LTE, this has no JB or wireless charging. If they had merged it all into one phone, it would have been a beast and I promise you it would sell better than anything on the market. Every one wins. But they had to mess with the wet dream. What can you do? :banghead:
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Very good points!
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fmllc said:
I beg to differ....the move from ics to jb woke up my S3 from it's ics nap...
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Agree here as well. It was night and day and when this gets JB its gonna fly!
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Seriously, what if we never officially get JB? Will we just have to rely on the N4 conversion? Will it affect development?
And how angry will you be?
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I will be so mad bro
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Well I'll never be getting another LG device, for one. At least I assume it's LG's fault
But, I'll be running CM when it comes thanks to the devs so it won't be too much of a factor for me. Now if it's a factor for the devs, that's another story... Then I will be severely pissed off
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theres already a few JB roms based on our phone, just not the att variants. im currently waiting for a base JB after the official one drops, but if that doesnt happen, ill just use the canadian one
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Well I'll never be getting another LG device, for one. At least I assume it's LG's fault
But, I'll be running CM when it comes thanks to the devs so it won't be too much of a factor for me. Now if it's a factor for the devs, that's another story... Then I will be severely pissed off
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This. My next device will also not be carrier branded. I'm sick of this s***! :silly:
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At least I assume it's LG's fault
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Nope. This is AT&T, like normal. Since they have a Jellybean build for several of the other variants, I am sure we are just waiting on AT&T to add all their bloatware to it.
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Nope. This is AT&T, like normal. Since they have a Jellybean build for several of the other variants, I am sure we are just waiting on AT&T to add all their bloatware to it.
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Nope a dev on here can add bloatware in a few minutes code it properly in a few day day so I'm sure an entire team of programmers at at&t can do this fast enough. It's marketing on Googles behalf. They have the moderately inferior nexus which has jelly bean 4.2.1 if they update the og to jelly bean what's the point in getting a nexus?
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Nope a dev on here can add bloatware in a few minutes code it properly in a few day day so I'm sure an entire team of programmers at at&t can do this fast enough. It's marketing on Googles behalf. They have the moderately inferior nexus which has jelly bean 4.2.1 if they update the og to jelly bean what's the point in getting a nexus?
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The xperia z is launching with 4.2 soooo that excuse is bogus, we just want 4.1 ha
HyDRo1X said:
Nope a dev on here can add bloatware in a few minutes code it properly in a few day day so I'm sure an entire team of programmers at at&t can do this fast enough. It's marketing on Googles behalf. They have the moderately inferior nexus which has jelly bean 4.2.1 if they update the og to jelly bean what's the point in getting a nexus?
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? Hmmm I don't know, maybe because it's not carrier branded, a clean-slate version of Android, and significantly cheaper to buy off-contract... Seems to me like there's still plenty of incentive to buy the N4 regardless if the OG has JB or not.
Whatever the reason, I really like this phone and am glad I bought it. However, unless things change before my contract is up, I'll avoid LG like the plague when choosing my next device. There is no reason anyone can give to me...to me... not anyone else, that in my mind justifies this piece of hardware not having official JB released for it by now. The work the developers are doing with one hand tied behind their back is awesome, but it shouldn't have to come to this. I'll vote with my dollars next time and go back to Samsung. It's a shame, too.
Like what has been mentioned and discussed ad nauseum since December, this device very well could have shipped with JB if they wanted it to. It most certainly could have been upgraded by now, especially with international versions of JB out. That tells me it is 100% AT&T who is holding this up.
Have a great weekend! Can't wait to see what the devs have cooked up!
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Seriously, what if we never officially get JB? Will we just have to rely on the N4 conversion? Will it affect development?
And how angry will you be?
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So you really feel the need to complain about jellybean in 2 diff threads. This thread is a waste of space. You just created a topic in general and now q&a. Come on bro
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ATT is probably too busy updating the note, note2, s3, one x, and all the other big selling devices. That said, looking at LG open source site there is only one device showing more than one os update, and that was froyo to gingerbread to ice cream sandwich. So jellybean will probably be the end of official updates for this phone.
Hint's the reason to why I swtched from this to the note 2 plus the fact that it's just a sweet ass phone lol so smooth n fast has a better pic to than the LG sound is better everything is lol Lg just sucks on upgrading there stuff that's all it really is Stuiped SOB's lmao
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Hint's the reason to why I swtched from this to the note 2 plus the fact that it's just a sweet ass phone lol so smooth n fast has a better pic to than the LG sound is better everything is lol Lg just sucks on upgrading there stuff that's all it really is Stuiped SOB's lmao
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In this case it's AT&T. If our developers can reverse engineer a hack to convert this to an N4, the mfg could have put JB on this device with the schematics and kernel files in their possession from day one. There are no two ways about it, simple as that. I mean they built both phones at the same time with almost identical specs for crying out loud..
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LG? At&t They know what they can both go do It start's with f and ends with U lmfao
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The xperia z is launching with 4.2 soooo that excuse is bogus, we just want 4.1 ha
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Nope because xperia is Sony nexus 4 and LG og is both by lg
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Nope because xperia is Sony nexus 4 and LG og is both by lg
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But as far as I know, Google is mostly responsible for the N4 software and LG is mostly responsible for the OG.
Google shouldn't have anything to do with us not seeing an update, just like how the N4 users aren't thanking LG for their updates.
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So you really feel the need to complain about jellybean in 2 diff threads. This thread is a waste of space. You just created a topic in general and now q&a. Come on bro
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I didn't make this thread to complain. I was just curious. I had to call AT&T on another matter, asked about JellyBean, and then posted the other, not to complain, just to report.
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I wouldnt hold my breath. Converted when the method first came out and have never look back. I don't know why people are so scare of bricking Im yet to see some one bricking their phone converting and in case you didnt know there is always a chance of bricking even if you are just flashing a simple script all it takes is a simple mistake... why do you think devs always have disclaimers on their roms???? I'm just waiting for 5.0 to drop and you will see a ton of people converting. No one likes old news man same goes for phones why would you want to stay on an outdated OS? makes no sence.
foreverthewolf2012 said:
Hint's the reason to why I swtched from this to the note 2 plus the fact that it's just a sweet ass phone lol so smooth n fast has a better pic to than the LG sound is better everything is lol Lg just sucks on upgrading there stuff that's all it really is Stuiped SOB's lmao
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Each to their own... I have a note 2,think it sucks ass. Too big, amoled screen has poor color reproduction, plastic land...
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As the One X on our beloved AT&t received 4.1 today, I take it as a sign we too shall receive it!
In 8 to 10 business months.
This was meant as a stress relief exercise. Please do not over exert from laughter.
Also, I know many out there hate stock with a passion. Let's keep this thread free of angry insults and hurled accusations. Thank ya much.
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AT&T wont release jelly bean for LGOG til the pro comes out. they want people to buy a new device and renew their contracts with the pro. less people would with LGOG having jelly bean.
Personally, I don't think AT&T cares what devices are out, they make their money on contracts, not devices.
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AT&T wont release jelly bean for LGOG til the pro comes out. they want people to buy a new device and renew their contracts with the pro. less people would with LGOG having jelly bean.
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I personally don't agree with this.
The vast majority of consumers don't know what version of android is on what device.
They won't even know.
And it shouldn't matter what device people buy, as long as they extend their contracts.
Also, stock isn't too bad on this phone.
I seriously could not care less when we have a ROM that's pretty much exactly what the stock update is going to be with SnowJB. Plus we've got AOSP, AOKP, and CM10 on the way. Not to mention The Base and other ROMs I'm neglecting to mention. If you're on XDA you likely don't need an official Jellybean release. I'm not a huge fan of this news being posted all over. We have better updates than what will ever come out. Who cares?
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chrisphoenix7 said:
As the One X on our beloved AT&t received 4.1 today, I take it as a sign we too shall receive it!
In 8 to 10 business months.
This was meant as a stress relief exercise. Please do not over exert from laughter.
Also, I know many out there hate stock with a passion. Let's keep this thread free of angry insults and hurled accusations. Thank ya much.
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Cmon, buddy. Didn't you just ask to have a nearly identical thread closed?
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Sprint is rolling out the 4.1 update to their LGOG now.
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I care. Official release means official source. Snowjb is great but official release would be better
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I care. Official release means official source. Snowjb is great but official release would be better
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I thought they had 6 months to release official source once they put out an update...
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TangoXray said:
Cmon, buddy. Didn't you just ask to have a nearly identical thread closed?
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This one was meant to be more of a joke thread, as I stated earlier. I was being sarcastic. I was poking fun at the earlier thread.
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Jank4AU said:
I thought they had 6 months to release official source once they put out an update...
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... And wasn't there a problem with the source code being released in a manner that was difficult to work with?
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bleached45 said:
I personally don't agree with this.
The vast majority of consumers don't know what version of android is on what device.
They won't even know.
And it shouldn't matter what device people buy, as long as they extend their contracts.
Also, stock isn't too bad on this phone.
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I don't know any android user that doesn't know what version of android is on their device. I can think of atleast 20 people. Most people are educated enough these days to know what they have and what newer version is out. They may not know how to root or modify like my sister but she does know when her iPhone doesn't have the newest iOS.
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freebee269 said:
I don't know any android user that doesn't know what version of android is on their device. I can think of atleast 20 people. Most people are educated enough these days to know what they have and what newer version is out. They may not know how to root or modify like my sister but she does know when her iPhone doesn't have the newest iOS.
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Then it seems most of my acquaintances... are not super bright.
But in all honesty, the everyday consumer really doesn't know. With Android so fragmented and most devices hardly receiving updates, I can think of a lot of people I know that don't know. They aren't tech people, they just want a smartphone.
I've had to walk friends through getting to the about phone settings just so they could find out what version they were on.
On iOS devices, everybody (or just about) has the latest update available to them; and even then, they really don't know what the hell is going on.
It is amazing how many people out there don't know much of anything about technology, and have no idea what their devices are capable of.
who needs att to release jb when snowjb is already here and its wonderfully debloated!
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The fact that sprint is releasing right now but it seems that att isn't even close has me fuming. I know there are great releases out there but I'm just mad because it seems that att doesn't care at all
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How long did it take att to release an update for the LG Thrill? That might be a good guesstimate for the Optimus G...
Took them 8 mo from the release of the one x (July to march) for this JB.
I also like to use my Inspire as an example. Promised Jellybean, and it was a giant no-show. Thank god for our Devs.
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I also like to use my Inspire as an example. Promised Jellybean, and it was a giant no-show. Thank god for our Devs.
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Funny thing is, neither AT&T nor HTC said ICS was coming to the Inspire, only HTC said it then retracted it for the Desire HD, international version.
Such a mess these updates are.
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The fact that sprint is releasing right now but it seems that att isn't even close has me fuming. I know there are great releases out there but I'm just mad because it seems that att doesn't care at all
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It's clear from what we've seen from other carriers around the world, that the lack of official Jellybean is totally on AT&T. I love this phone, but it looks like the only way to keep current is to depend on our devs and with brand new shiny coming out very soon I suspect we will lose quite a few of them. I realize brand new shiny phones are always coming out, but the next crop of devices are slated to be real power houses.
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who needs att to release jb when snowjb is already here and its wonderfully debloated!
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I do...I'm over flashing ROM's that have half working features or the occasional bug that causes my phone to reboot in the middle of a game or phone call.
Why is there no 4.2.2 on DNA yet? Didnt the galaxy nexus just get it? What the hell verizon/htc?
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Why is there no 4.2.2 on DNA yet? Didnt the galaxy nexus just get it? What the hell verizon/htc?
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Um, what.
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Um, what.
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he is asking if the DNA have the 4.2.2 JellyBean Update because the Nexus 4 have it and he is complaining about why Verizon or HTC do not give it to us...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cABZfkRcQ6A&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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robertmoore208 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cABZfkRcQ6A&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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what is this?
Lol
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I'm guessing this is his first HTC device.
haha...must be!!
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Why is there no 4.2.2 on DNA yet? Didnt the galaxy nexus just get it? What the hell verizon/htc?
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Skinned and heavily modded supported by htc vs pure vanilla supported by Google... I wonder which one will get the updates....
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he is asking if the DNA have the 4.2.2 JellyBean Update because the Nexus 4 have it and he is complaining about why Verizon or HTC do not give it to us...
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actually he was commenting about the VZW Gnex which did receive 4.2.2 official from verizon. but they have been on the network for a quite a bit longer.
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actually he was commenting about the VZW Gnex which did receive 4.2.2 official from verizon. but they have been on the network for a quite a bit longer.
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This is correct, I don't appreciate the sarcasm guys. The DNA is much more powerful than the Gnex and it has been out since November and so has 4.2.
4.2 mostly added changes for tablets, there really wasn't much changed for phones over 4.1 besides adding that new photosphere. That's mainly the reason why Google didn't bother to give it a new code name. I doubt it's worth the effort to upgrade.
I think everyone needs to remember what goes into these things. Clearly none of you have worked in an IT department before. Google releases a new version. HTC will get it, and then begins customizing it for their devices. They have to adjust the firmware, rebuild sense... it's not small development work. Then it goes into QA for a while to make sure it's up to par. Then it's released to Verzion and goes into their QA. Problems that arise during these phases are corrected and retested. Finally after it's all signed off, it's scheduled for release. That process can and does take months. It's the significant drawback for the android platform. Apple on the other hand would have been done with their initial release. Google Nexus phones get all the upgrades because Google tests everything for them before they release the new version.
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This is correct, I don't appreciate the sarcasm guys. The DNA is much more powerful than the Gnex and it has been out since November and so has 4.2.
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You do realize that the DNA foesnt run stock android.
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Bigandrewgold said:
You do realize that the DNA foesnt run stock android.
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Yes but the change from 4.1 to 4.2.isn't that drastic that it would take this long to release it considering it came out when the DNA did.
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4.2 mostly added changes for tablets, there really wasn't much changed for phones over 4.1 besides adding that new photosphere. That's mainly the reason why Google didn't bother to give it a new code name. I doubt it's worth the effort to upgrade.
I think everyone needs to remember what goes into these things. Clearly none of you have worked in an IT department before. Google releases a new version. HTC will get it, and then begins customizing it for their devices. They have to adjust the firmware, rebuild sense... it's not small development work. Then it goes into QA for a while to make sure it's up to par. Then it's released to Verzion and goes into their QA. Problems that arise during these phases are corrected and retested. Finally after it's all signed off, it's scheduled for release. That process can and does take months. It's the significant drawback for the android platform. Apple on the other hand would have been done with their initial release. Google Nexus phones get all the upgrades because Google tests everything for them before they release the new version.
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I want the new version mainly for the lock screen changes.
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It is extremely unrealistic to expect a heavily skinned HTC device to get updates at the same speed as a device running just stock vanilla Android.
The Sense overlay is massive, and requires a lot of tuning and customization in order to function properly. Throw a new version of Android at HTC, and they have to spend a lot of time to make 'Sense' of things, if you take my meaning. The first thing they have to figure out is whether or not the update will even improve the user experience. What if there's no benefit to the end user because the update was mainly for tablets (as the previous poster said). Or, is it worth the cost of re-tooling Sense for an extremely minor update?
All this hating on HTC over updates on fairly new phones is really unfair.
Now the Rezound ICS update debacle was unforgivable, but this device hasn't even been out 6 months, and they've already put out an OTA with new radios. Dude, that's freaking awesome support!
So instead of all the negativity, how about congratulating HTC on lessons learned from the Rezound delays, and enjoying what you've got?
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BBEgo said:
It is extremely unrealistic to expect a heavily skinned HTC device to get updates at the same speed as a device running just stock vanilla Android.
The Sense overlay is massive, and requires a lot of tuning and customization in order to function properly. Throw a new version of Android at HTC, and they have to spend a lot of time to make 'Sense' of things, if you take my meaning. The first thing they have to figure out is whether or not the update will even improve the user experience. What if there's no benefit to the end user because the update was mainly for tablets (as the previous poster said). Or, is it worth the cost of re-tooling Sense for an extremely minor update?
All this hating on HTC over updates on fairly new phones is really unfair.
Now the Rezound ICS update debacle was unforgivable, but this device hasn't even been out 6 months, and they've already put out an OTA with new radios. Dude, that's freaking awesome support!
So instead of all the negativity, how about congratulating HTC on lessons learned from the Rezound delays, and enjoying what you've got?
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You are right but the new android isn't that different aside from the lock screen. I am not hating on HTC it's more than likely Verizon.
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robertmoore208 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cABZfkRcQ6A&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Lmao
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123421342 said:
You are right but the new android isn't that different aside from the lock screen. I am not hating on HTC it's more than likely Verizon.
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Man idk why you even started this topic? Have you been on Android or VZW for any length of time whatsoever? This shouldn't be a surprise. I mean we will probably see AOSP 4.2 from one of the devs long before we see 4.2 or even sense 5(which we already have) from VZW. Updates for phones that aren't a Nexus always take a long time and VZW is notorious for making that wait even longer.
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Woah woah woah... Sense is NOT skinned / heavily modded its a completely built up OS based on Aosp/Linux kernel
Two totally different things
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...d-skins-aosp-sense-touchwiz-xda-developer-tv/
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123421342 said:
Why is there no 4.2.2 on DNA yet? Didnt the galaxy nexus just get it? What the hell verizon/htc?
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Yea, my brother got it last week for his Nexus.