What if we DON'T get jelly bean? - AT&T LG Optimus G

Seriously, what if we never officially get JB? Will we just have to rely on the N4 conversion? Will it affect development?
And how angry will you be?
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I will be so mad bro
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Well I'll never be getting another LG device, for one. At least I assume it's LG's fault
But, I'll be running CM when it comes thanks to the devs so it won't be too much of a factor for me. Now if it's a factor for the devs, that's another story... Then I will be severely pissed off
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theres already a few JB roms based on our phone, just not the att variants. im currently waiting for a base JB after the official one drops, but if that doesnt happen, ill just use the canadian one

blenkows said:
Well I'll never be getting another LG device, for one. At least I assume it's LG's fault
But, I'll be running CM when it comes thanks to the devs so it won't be too much of a factor for me. Now if it's a factor for the devs, that's another story... Then I will be severely pissed off
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This. My next device will also not be carrier branded. I'm sick of this s***! :silly:

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At least I assume it's LG's fault
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Nope. This is AT&T, like normal. Since they have a Jellybean build for several of the other variants, I am sure we are just waiting on AT&T to add all their bloatware to it.

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Nope. This is AT&T, like normal. Since they have a Jellybean build for several of the other variants, I am sure we are just waiting on AT&T to add all their bloatware to it.
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Nope a dev on here can add bloatware in a few minutes code it properly in a few day day so I'm sure an entire team of programmers at at&t can do this fast enough. It's marketing on Googles behalf. They have the moderately inferior nexus which has jelly bean 4.2.1 if they update the og to jelly bean what's the point in getting a nexus?
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Nope a dev on here can add bloatware in a few minutes code it properly in a few day day so I'm sure an entire team of programmers at at&t can do this fast enough. It's marketing on Googles behalf. They have the moderately inferior nexus which has jelly bean 4.2.1 if they update the og to jelly bean what's the point in getting a nexus?
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The xperia z is launching with 4.2 soooo that excuse is bogus, we just want 4.1 ha

HyDRo1X said:
Nope a dev on here can add bloatware in a few minutes code it properly in a few day day so I'm sure an entire team of programmers at at&t can do this fast enough. It's marketing on Googles behalf. They have the moderately inferior nexus which has jelly bean 4.2.1 if they update the og to jelly bean what's the point in getting a nexus?
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? Hmmm I don't know, maybe because it's not carrier branded, a clean-slate version of Android, and significantly cheaper to buy off-contract... Seems to me like there's still plenty of incentive to buy the N4 regardless if the OG has JB or not.

Whatever the reason, I really like this phone and am glad I bought it. However, unless things change before my contract is up, I'll avoid LG like the plague when choosing my next device. There is no reason anyone can give to me...to me... not anyone else, that in my mind justifies this piece of hardware not having official JB released for it by now. The work the developers are doing with one hand tied behind their back is awesome, but it shouldn't have to come to this. I'll vote with my dollars next time and go back to Samsung. It's a shame, too.
Like what has been mentioned and discussed ad nauseum since December, this device very well could have shipped with JB if they wanted it to. It most certainly could have been upgraded by now, especially with international versions of JB out. That tells me it is 100% AT&T who is holding this up.
Have a great weekend! Can't wait to see what the devs have cooked up!
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chrisphoenix7 said:
Seriously, what if we never officially get JB? Will we just have to rely on the N4 conversion? Will it affect development?
And how angry will you be?
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So you really feel the need to complain about jellybean in 2 diff threads. This thread is a waste of space. You just created a topic in general and now q&a. Come on bro
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ATT is probably too busy updating the note, note2, s3, one x, and all the other big selling devices. That said, looking at LG open source site there is only one device showing more than one os update, and that was froyo to gingerbread to ice cream sandwich. So jellybean will probably be the end of official updates for this phone.

Hint's the reason to why I swtched from this to the note 2 plus the fact that it's just a sweet ass phone lol so smooth n fast has a better pic to than the LG sound is better everything is lol Lg just sucks on upgrading there stuff that's all it really is Stuiped SOB's lmao

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Hint's the reason to why I swtched from this to the note 2 plus the fact that it's just a sweet ass phone lol so smooth n fast has a better pic to than the LG sound is better everything is lol Lg just sucks on upgrading there stuff that's all it really is Stuiped SOB's lmao
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In this case it's AT&T. If our developers can reverse engineer a hack to convert this to an N4, the mfg could have put JB on this device with the schematics and kernel files in their possession from day one. There are no two ways about it, simple as that. I mean they built both phones at the same time with almost identical specs for crying out loud..
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LG? At&t They know what they can both go do It start's with f and ends with U lmfao

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The xperia z is launching with 4.2 soooo that excuse is bogus, we just want 4.1 ha
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Nope because xperia is Sony nexus 4 and LG og is both by lg
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Nope because xperia is Sony nexus 4 and LG og is both by lg
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But as far as I know, Google is mostly responsible for the N4 software and LG is mostly responsible for the OG.
Google shouldn't have anything to do with us not seeing an update, just like how the N4 users aren't thanking LG for their updates.

Justinfedor said:
So you really feel the need to complain about jellybean in 2 diff threads. This thread is a waste of space. You just created a topic in general and now q&a. Come on bro
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I didn't make this thread to complain. I was just curious. I had to call AT&T on another matter, asked about JellyBean, and then posted the other, not to complain, just to report.
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I wouldnt hold my breath. Converted when the method first came out and have never look back. I don't know why people are so scare of bricking Im yet to see some one bricking their phone converting and in case you didnt know there is always a chance of bricking even if you are just flashing a simple script all it takes is a simple mistake... why do you think devs always have disclaimers on their roms???? I'm just waiting for 5.0 to drop and you will see a ton of people converting. No one likes old news man same goes for phones why would you want to stay on an outdated OS? makes no sence.

foreverthewolf2012 said:
Hint's the reason to why I swtched from this to the note 2 plus the fact that it's just a sweet ass phone lol so smooth n fast has a better pic to than the LG sound is better everything is lol Lg just sucks on upgrading there stuff that's all it really is Stuiped SOB's lmao
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Each to their own... I have a note 2,think it sucks ass. Too big, amoled screen has poor color reproduction, plastic land...
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[Q] New to the optimus G no 4.1.1 yet?

So i just sold my SGS3 for 400 bucks and wanted to give the Optimus G a shot havent decided if I'm staying or not but am wondering the top of our page says it's rocking 4.1.1 yet my phone is on 4.0.4 and even after some menial update yesterday it's stil there. Do we have 4.1.1 or are we getting it soon?
No and maybe. Thread reported for move. There's a whole section for questions, and general isn't it.
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No and maybe. Thread reported for move. There's a whole section for questions, and general isn't it.
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well sorry, didnt mean to ruffle your feathers. Well this could be a reason not to keep this phone if there isnt anything definitive
I've been using the optimus G for 3 days now and I absolutely love it. I've had a gs3, note 2, and a one x. The optimus g is my favorite of the bunch. I think the screen on here is the best out there. The camera however I think blows but hey there is no such thing as a perfect device.
The lack of jelly bean really is upsetting tho, not enough for me to switch phones. The international version is supposed to get the update this month. I'm hoping we see some custom jelly bean roms after it is released cuz everyone knows att won't have it out till next year hopefully before the 2 nd quarter.
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AndreaCristiano said:
well sorry, didnt mean to ruffle your feathers. Well this could be a reason not to keep this phone if there isnt anything definitive
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Lol, no feathers ruffled man. It's just that I like my device forum to stay nice and tidy, as do a great many others
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well I just used one of my upgrades im gonna rock it for a week and see how I feel if I dont fall in love with it im gonna return it and get my upgrade back. I will give this a fair shot as the keyboard and screen are awesome. I think its the UI I hate
Give it a few days! You'll love it (the ui). And I think you're one of the few that hates the camera. There's a picture thread in General full of great pictures taken with this phone.
No, the OG camera is definitely sub par when compared to the best ones out there.
I loved the camera on the One X. The pictures from this one are noticeably worse. Usable, but not great.
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Give it a few days! You'll love it (the ui). And I think you're one of the few that hates the camera. There's a picture thread in General full of great pictures taken with this phone.
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Agree with this. I don't have much experience with Android phones, but I've handled the vanilla ASOP-type ROMs on my tablets. This UI skin is very unobtrusive, and doesn't bog down the phone. On top of that, you have basically the nicest specs on the market right now, in the sleekest package. This phone is a sleeper. The ROMs will come. Unfortunately, the masses may not realize what they're passing up, which means fewer ROMs. Really, though, all we need are a few good Devs. I recommend waiting to see what springs up once JB is officially released on the LGOG.
Yes, the camera is not the best, but it's not bad. For most of us, who really cares? If you're a pro photographer you shouldn't be paying attention to your cell phone's camera anyway. It's more than adequate to post crap to Instagram or whatever.
JasonJoel said:
No, the OG camera is definitely sub par when compared to the best ones out there.
I loved the camera on the One X. The pictures from this one are noticeably worse. Usable, but not great.
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I've taken and seen some really great pictures taken with this camera lol. Since when is everyone a critic about a cellphone's camera? The pictures go to facebook/instagram or to someone else via mms. It's not like they're for a modeling agency or an art institute lol. People need to chill.
Thanks Digil!
I dont mind the camera that mich the UI is just a bit cartoonish for my tastes
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I dont mind the camera that mich the UI is just a bit cartoonish for my tastes
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easily remedied by installing a different launcher
Timberline said:
easily remedied by installing a different launcher
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+1
Using Nova Prime.
Timberline said:
easily remedied by installing a different launcher
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Was rocking nova but actually went back to original phone is definitely growing on me
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AndreaCristiano said:
Was rocking nova but actually went back to original phone is definitely growing on me
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Told you it would. Good for you.
Murasakiii said:
Told you it would. Good for you.
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I am still hoping for jellybean though
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AndreaCristiano said:
I am still hoping for jellybean though
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Well, it is said to come out, we just don't know when.
*fingers crossed*
I really like the Optimus UI (only really liked AOSP before this), but am trying to decide between Apex Launcher and Atom Launcher...
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Well, it is said to come out, we just don't know when.
*fingers crossed*
I really like the Optimus UI (only really liked AOSP before this), but am trying to decide between Apex Launcher and Atom Launcher...
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I used to rock apex all the time then switched to nova now I'm actually back to stock
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I prefer nova prime but, that's because I hate the LG implementation of the app drawer. I like most of the LG defaults.
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Atrix HD gets Jellybean!

Atrix HD gets Jellybean and were sitting here with nothing!
http://www.phonearena.com/news/AT-Ts-Atrix-HD-getting-a-serving-of-Jelly-Bean-as-well_id37693
Perhaps you should go get an Atrix.
Being happy has very little to do with getting what you want, but a great deal to do with wanting what you have.
Why buy an LG phone and then be upset when your not first to get JellyBean? It's not this should come as a surprise.
/wave
It should have jb! It been out for awhile! but don't worry the OG will get jb, just nobody knows when....
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DraginMagik said:
Perhaps you should go get an Atrix.
Being happy has very little to do with getting what you want, but a great deal to do with wanting what you have.
Why buy an LG phone and then be upset when your not first to get JellyBean? It's not this should come as a surprise.
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My point is that we should have it already and those shows that maybe we will receive it soon
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The atrix is made by a completely different company which has nothing to do with the lgog.
Even if we do get it, it would be a bad idea to update to it.
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AndreaCristiano, just return your LGOG and get another phone.
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AndreaCristiano, just return your LGOG and get another phone.
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nah man im really liking this phone just miss some jellybean features I had on the SGS3.
Snow_fox said:
The atrix is made by a completely different company which has nothing to do with the lgog.
Even if we do get it, it would be a bad idea to update to it.
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yea thanks for the insight, meanwhile that has no bearing on my post, both samsung , LG and moto have released Jellybean yet the moto and samsung have it while our LG doesnt
Then get a phone with JB then come back to the LGOG when JB comes to this phone.
I don't understand why people are complaining about JB. It is not that fascinating. But feel free to annoy people with threads about AMG THIS PHONE HAS JB BEFORE OURS NOW TOO, while we sit here peacefully happy with what we got out of the box.
And your post has no bearing on our devices..... I'm happy for the hd users but it doesn't really affect me either way.
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Murasakiii said:
Then get a phone with JB then come back to the LGOG when JB comes to this phone.
I don't understand why people are complaining about JB. It is not that fascinating. But feel free to annoy people with threads about AMG THIS PHONE HAS JB BEFORE OURS NOW TOO, while we sit here peacefully happy with what we got out of the box.
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if the thread bothered you you didnt have to open it, so please shut up. You people over here on the LG side are a touch jerky. The SGS3 squad was much nicer. No one is offending you personally this is a forum for discussion on these things, about our phones. Its a phone not a kid stop getting so offended people
Despite great reviews people seem to treat this device like it's going to explode.
When you make a completely unrelated post about a completely unrelated device, how do you expect people to respond?
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903tex said:
It should have jb! It been out for awhile! but don't worry the OG will get jb, just nobody knows when....
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1Q of 2013. So April by the latest.
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In all fairness I somewhat agree with the OP just like anybody would. You would EXPECT a phone with these specs to come out the box with jb. Especially sense the x+ has it out the box and similar specs. But what can you do? For the most part enjoy what you got! Most of the time you been running the latest android os on your device before its released official thanks to the great xda devs!
But also you don't know who is watching these threads, so all the fighting and drama queen on here not going to make somebody with the time and patience to think twice about getting or developing on this device...
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903tex said:
In all fairness I somewhat agree with the OP just like anybody would. You would EXPECT a phone with these specs to come out the box with jb. Especially sense the x+ has it out the box and similar specs. But what can you do? For the most part enjoy what you got! Most of the time you been running the latest android os on your device before its released official thanks to the great xda devs!
But also you don't know who is watching these threads, so all the fighting and drama queen on here not going to make somebody with the time and patience to think twice about getting or developing on this device...
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Realistically the reason that LG didn't put JB on the LGOG is because they wanted to boost sales on the nexus 4.
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JB is nice and I had it on the AHD a couple weeks ago and it's not that big of a difference from ICS. Froyo to ICS was a big deal. This jump not so much (to the end user).
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JB is nice and I had it on the AHD a couple weeks ago and it's not that big of a difference from ICS. Froyo to ICS was a big deal. This jump not so much (to the end user).
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I beg to differ....the move from ics to jb woke up my S3 from it's ics nap...
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fmllc said:
I beg to differ....the move from ics to jb woke up my S3 from it's ics nap...
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It's like LG/AT&T/Google decided to kneecap and half-ass both devices. The Nexus has no extra storage or LTE, this has no JB or wireless charging. If they had merged it all into one phone, it would have been a beast and I promise you it would sell better than anything on the market. Every one wins. But they had to mess with the wet dream. What can you do? :banghead:
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It's like LG/AT&T/Google decided to kneecap and half-ass both devices. The Nexus has no extra storage or LTE, this has no JB or wireless charging. If they had merged it all into one phone, it would have been a beast and I promise you it would sell better than anything on the market. Every one wins. But they had to mess with the wet dream. What can you do? :banghead:
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Very good points!
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fmllc said:
I beg to differ....the move from ics to jb woke up my S3 from it's ics nap...
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Agree here as well. It was night and day and when this gets JB its gonna fly!
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Switching to another phone possibly from LGOG =(

I loved this phone is did a lot of research and reviewed videos on this phone before I got it and it looked beast. I'm disappointed that there is SO LITTLE development with this phone, I'm thinking about switching to a more popular phone that everyone actually knows and cares to build roms for and support I really like this phone ,but again it just needs way more attention for me. Anyone else feels this way?
PhonePhan said:
I loved this phone is did a lot of research and reviewed videos on this phone before I got it and it looked beast. I'm disappointed that there is SO LITTLE development with this phone, I'm thinking about switching to a more popular phone that everyone actually knows and cares to build roms for and support I really like this phone ,but again it just needs way more attention for me. Anyone else feels this way?
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Patience is key. You can't force a dev to make a ROM or "develop" for a device. They have lives as well. Everything is pretty close to being here.
Besides if your not likening the "Development" you can always try and make a ROM buddy. Then maybe you can see how its not done overnight.
Oh look this thread again
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On the One X we went months before we had what we have here. Locked boot loader, an unrootable stock release and no source.
How can you call the Free Gee project and the N4 conversion and such slow development? /boggle
I felt the same way at first, and I am probably going to buy the moto X phone or the gsIV, but right now you just gotta find a room you like and settle into it.
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Btw I came to this phone from the sgs3. A huge dev section isn't the only thing to base buying a phone.on. this phone has some sweet hardware. Excellent build quality, and awesome speed. I'm in love.
@Phonephan, I totally hear where you're coming from. I would have hoped for more options by now as well, but I knew what I was getting into when I picked this bad boy up and that there was the chance its potential would go unrealized. However, Rome wasn't built in a day and there have been some unique challenges that some very good developers are about to overcome. Our empire is about to be built! We've already got a solid JB build that doesn't require conversion thanks to SnowLeopardJB. There are a couple solid ICS ROM's as well (shout out to team nocturnal, nygfan, etc.) The real treats are just around the corner and if you check in to the irc chat room you will see just how close. Hang in there bro, you'll be glad you did.
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PhonePhan said:
I loved this phone is did a lot of research and reviewed videos on this phone before I got it and it looked beast. I'm disappointed that there is SO LITTLE development with this phone, I'm thinking about switching to a more popular phone that everyone actually knows and cares to build roms for and support I really like this phone ,but again it just needs way more attention for me. Anyone else feels this way?
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You need an N4. Oh wait this phone can become one... What are you looking for that the existing custom stock roms or conversion don't provide?
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You need an N4. Oh wait this phone can become one... What are you looking for that the existing custom stock roms or conversion don't provide?
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Nexus 4 with GPS and LTE.
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whats a rom?
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half of a rom-com?
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whats a rom?
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Something that wasn't built in a day?
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Ah well I've never built one of those. All mine take a few hours
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This thread needs to get closed before things get ugly...
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A rom is a pile of code that makes my sh!t look cooler than the dude's phone next to me... aka, bragging rights!
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There are devs lurking, just be patient and see what happens. Until then go convert your Optimus G to an N4 like others have stated..
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Funny to think that just a few years ago modifying the OS on your phone was not an option. Now folks cry when they don't have 100 variations of the same base rom within a week or two.
Maybe buy a device you like next time. Or wait longer and not buy the device on launch day, that way you can give the dev community time to work thereby ensuring you get an active community to take care of your flashing fix.
Why exactly do you feel the need to tell us that you're leaving? Did you do any development? Write any documentation? Are you afraid we wouldn't notice you were gone?
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Seriously!? We have an ICS phone that developers have transformed into an upgraded nexus 4. Other developers have domesticated foreign JB Roms so well that this phone has every feature enabled today. We may only have a few topics... But major progress happens in them. This is the height of Android options with native pure Google and branded on the most recent versions.
You can install Roms from 3 forums onto this phone... US OG, Intl OG and N4.
The conversion will really pay off in six months when this is the first device with SD card and full android 5 while every other phone has gmail 5... Converted to 4.1
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Okay...
Didn't see that coming. If you look at my post I said I'm possibly getting a new phone not telling you I am and I was asking people if they felt the same. Also it's been months since its release so the fact that it's only 2 real ROMs for this phone makes me upset no, disrespect to devs obviously but it does seem like this phone is getting like no attention and it's one if the best phones out. Converting to n4 is a bit too much just to enjoy this phone. This phone was meant to be an LGOG not a nexus ..it would have been named nexus
Anyways that was just a thought/concern I had about the phone.. Don't see why people are offended?
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Nobody bothered to develop ICS Roms other than pretty much stock based ones since we were promised Jelly Bean so early and obviously that didn't happen. Once Jelly Bean gets officially released, I know the devs will be all over it and Roms won't be an issue. The nexus 4 conversion is easy to do, I did it intoxicated twice. So either do that or just be patient. We're just waiting on AT&T now
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Now it's your move AT&T.....

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...4-1-2-build-ls970zvb-starting-to-trickle-out/
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Don't hold your breath...
Also, better things are forthcoming...
Was this official ota's or just a soak test?
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Was this official ota's or just a soak test?
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It is unsure at this point.
From the link in the OP.
All with nary a word from The Now Network, which is usually pretty on top of announcing updates for devices. Ergo, at this point, we're not entirely sure if this is the start of a full-on rollout or just a "soak test" of sorts. We're thinking the former, but until official word is muttered from the lips of Sprint, it's a crapshoot.
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From having previous experience with Att and Android it could still be a while. Att gets in no hurry for updates. I don't know what is involved with their testing of new firmware but it's ridiculous.
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From having previous experience with Att and Android it could still be a while. Att gets in no hurry for updates. I don't know what is involved with their testing of new firmware but it's ridiculous.
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I think the testing isn't what kills it... I think att doesn't test at all half the time. What do they have to lose if we don't get updates. People rarely get mad at carriers when the manufacturer can be blamed.
It would not surprise me find out att won't push the update because it says "lg" at the top of the phone instead of "att"
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I think the testing isn't what kills it... I think att doesn't test at all half the time. What do they have to lose if we don't get updates. People rarely get mad at carriers when the manufacturer can be blamed.
It would not surprise me find out att won't push the update because it says "lg" at the top of the phone instead of "att"
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and why incur the cost, if there's virtually no recourse for not releasing the updated OS. But if that's going to be the case, have the manufacturer release the upgrades, requiring that their own crapware is included in the release.
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and why incur the cost, if there's virtually no recourse for not releasing the updated OS. But if that's going to be the case, have the manufacturer release the upgrades, requiring that their own crapware is included in the release.
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Guys, you've got to remember that us, the people on XDA, arent the majority. Most people don't know what jellybean is and if they do they couldn't tell you the difference in jelly bean and ICS. AT&T knows this so they don't bother with updates, they're lazy and couldn't care less about the minority. Honestly, i don't think any of the people who handle the updates at AT&T know whats new in jellybean. Maybe they should hire some xda devs to handle their updates haha
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Guys, you've got to remember that us, the people on XDA, arent the majority. Most people don't know what jellybean is and if they do they couldn't tell you the difference in jelly bean and ICS. AT&T knows this so they don't bother with updates, they're lazy and couldn't care less about the minority. Honestly, i don't think any of the people who handle the updates at AT&T know whats new in jellybean. Maybe they should hire some xda devs to handle their updates haha
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Heck, with how well this phone runs on ICS, aside from getting Google Now I'm still not entirely clear on what the JB ROMs we have give us, and I generally pay attention to these things...
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bassitone said:
Heck, with how well this phone runs on ICS, aside from getting Google Now I'm still not entirely clear on what the JB ROMs we have give us, and I generally pay attention to these things...
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I completely agree, I'm honestly kinda scared that the jellybean update could make the experience worse, at least an official update. This is the best phone I've ever used, even with ICS and little rom support. We've got great devs and even the stock experience isnt bad. Plus, google now is cool but I'm happy with this phone as is, I've got my nexus 7 for that haha
I had CM10.1 on my last phone, I really don't feel like I'm missing anything significant at all with rooted stock ics on this phone...
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I'm happy with rooted stock as well, except that I am hoping for a reduction in the excessive msm_hsic_host wakelocks that drain our batteries (seems this was fixed on the Nexus 4).
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I completely agree, I'm honestly kinda scared that the jellybean update could make the experience worse, at least an official update. This is the best phone I've ever used, even with ICS and little rom support. We've got great devs and even the stock experience isnt bad. Plus, google now is cool but I'm happy with this phone as is, I've got my nexus 7 for that haha
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It's quite a bit faster on jellybean and has Google now and a different font and a better modem.
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Heck, with how well this phone runs on ICS, aside from getting Google Now I'm still not entirely clear on what the JB ROMs we have give us, and I generally pay attention to these things...
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does this means that a dev could get the update rom from sprint and port it to att? or are the phones too much dissimilar to do that?
We have jelly bean already. I am running the version found in the developer section and I love it
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We have jelly bean already. I am running the version found in the developer section and I love it
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I've been on SnowJB for a while now. It's still about the principle. Sprint released jb, even if it is just a soak test. AT&T is usually the last to get out updates for devices that have been released on multiple carriers. From my experience and research it is usually T-Mobile first, Sprint second, and ATT/Verizon tied for last.
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No update anytime soon. Trust me. Att wants you to buy new hardware. (Lgog pro)
They make money buy getting new contracts. After new og hits we get jb. I had HTC vivid there was no ICS till onex was out
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Which version of the LGOG sold world wide is closest to ours?
i'm used to the One X and Rogers&At&T being identical.
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No update anytime soon. Trust me. Att wants you to buy new hardware. (Lgog pro)
They make money buy getting new contracts. After new og hits we get jb. I had HTC vivid there was no ICS till onex was out
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That makes no sense because everyone who bought a LGOG shouldn't be anywhere close to getting another two-year contract. The LGOG is only 5 months old.
Joecascio2000 said:
That makes no sense because everyone who bought a LGOG shouldn't be anywhere close to getting another two-year contract. The LGOG is only 5 months old.
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Definitely. I'd like to see things out faster, too, but you hear a lot of pure speculation and conspiracy theories around here.
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More annoying stock news??

As the One X on our beloved AT&t received 4.1 today, I take it as a sign we too shall receive it!
In 8 to 10 business months.
This was meant as a stress relief exercise. Please do not over exert from laughter.
Also, I know many out there hate stock with a passion. Let's keep this thread free of angry insults and hurled accusations. Thank ya much.
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AT&T wont release jelly bean for LGOG til the pro comes out. they want people to buy a new device and renew their contracts with the pro. less people would with LGOG having jelly bean.
Personally, I don't think AT&T cares what devices are out, they make their money on contracts, not devices.
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freebee269 said:
AT&T wont release jelly bean for LGOG til the pro comes out. they want people to buy a new device and renew their contracts with the pro. less people would with LGOG having jelly bean.
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I personally don't agree with this.
The vast majority of consumers don't know what version of android is on what device.
They won't even know.
And it shouldn't matter what device people buy, as long as they extend their contracts.
Also, stock isn't too bad on this phone.
I seriously could not care less when we have a ROM that's pretty much exactly what the stock update is going to be with SnowJB. Plus we've got AOSP, AOKP, and CM10 on the way. Not to mention The Base and other ROMs I'm neglecting to mention. If you're on XDA you likely don't need an official Jellybean release. I'm not a huge fan of this news being posted all over. We have better updates than what will ever come out. Who cares?
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chrisphoenix7 said:
As the One X on our beloved AT&t received 4.1 today, I take it as a sign we too shall receive it!
In 8 to 10 business months.
This was meant as a stress relief exercise. Please do not over exert from laughter.
Also, I know many out there hate stock with a passion. Let's keep this thread free of angry insults and hurled accusations. Thank ya much.
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Cmon, buddy. Didn't you just ask to have a nearly identical thread closed?
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Sprint is rolling out the 4.1 update to their LGOG now.
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I care. Official release means official source. Snowjb is great but official release would be better
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I care. Official release means official source. Snowjb is great but official release would be better
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I thought they had 6 months to release official source once they put out an update...
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TangoXray said:
Cmon, buddy. Didn't you just ask to have a nearly identical thread closed?
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This one was meant to be more of a joke thread, as I stated earlier. I was being sarcastic. I was poking fun at the earlier thread.
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I thought they had 6 months to release official source once they put out an update...
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... And wasn't there a problem with the source code being released in a manner that was difficult to work with?
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bleached45 said:
I personally don't agree with this.
The vast majority of consumers don't know what version of android is on what device.
They won't even know.
And it shouldn't matter what device people buy, as long as they extend their contracts.
Also, stock isn't too bad on this phone.
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I don't know any android user that doesn't know what version of android is on their device. I can think of atleast 20 people. Most people are educated enough these days to know what they have and what newer version is out. They may not know how to root or modify like my sister but she does know when her iPhone doesn't have the newest iOS.
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freebee269 said:
I don't know any android user that doesn't know what version of android is on their device. I can think of atleast 20 people. Most people are educated enough these days to know what they have and what newer version is out. They may not know how to root or modify like my sister but she does know when her iPhone doesn't have the newest iOS.
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Then it seems most of my acquaintances... are not super bright.
But in all honesty, the everyday consumer really doesn't know. With Android so fragmented and most devices hardly receiving updates, I can think of a lot of people I know that don't know. They aren't tech people, they just want a smartphone.
I've had to walk friends through getting to the about phone settings just so they could find out what version they were on.
On iOS devices, everybody (or just about) has the latest update available to them; and even then, they really don't know what the hell is going on.
It is amazing how many people out there don't know much of anything about technology, and have no idea what their devices are capable of.
who needs att to release jb when snowjb is already here and its wonderfully debloated!
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The fact that sprint is releasing right now but it seems that att isn't even close has me fuming. I know there are great releases out there but I'm just mad because it seems that att doesn't care at all
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How long did it take att to release an update for the LG Thrill? That might be a good guesstimate for the Optimus G...
Took them 8 mo from the release of the one x (July to march) for this JB.
I also like to use my Inspire as an example. Promised Jellybean, and it was a giant no-show. Thank god for our Devs.
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I also like to use my Inspire as an example. Promised Jellybean, and it was a giant no-show. Thank god for our Devs.
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Funny thing is, neither AT&T nor HTC said ICS was coming to the Inspire, only HTC said it then retracted it for the Desire HD, international version.
Such a mess these updates are.
abraxo said:
The fact that sprint is releasing right now but it seems that att isn't even close has me fuming. I know there are great releases out there but I'm just mad because it seems that att doesn't care at all
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It's clear from what we've seen from other carriers around the world, that the lack of official Jellybean is totally on AT&T. I love this phone, but it looks like the only way to keep current is to depend on our devs and with brand new shiny coming out very soon I suspect we will lose quite a few of them. I realize brand new shiny phones are always coming out, but the next crop of devices are slated to be real power houses.
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who needs att to release jb when snowjb is already here and its wonderfully debloated!
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I do...I'm over flashing ROM's that have half working features or the occasional bug that causes my phone to reboot in the middle of a game or phone call.

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