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Today, a friend asked if I had an extra laptop. He needed one for his 10 year old son.
While rummaging through my closet (you know, the one with all the old computers, shotguns, and half empty Jack Daniels bottles) when I found one of these.
Two Pics … http://db.tt/GY4wfof6 and http://db.tt/rzkodoMi
Now, I have no idea as to how, where or when I got this. I had to search the net to even know what it was.
Ebay link … http://www.ebay.com/itm/230328510631?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2648
Continuing my search of the closet I also found a 2.5 inch 160 gig IDE hard drive. Assembled the two and I now have a portable battery powered drive that works great with my Flyer.
That looks kinda old school. =)
So you connect to the flyer via bluetooth or microUSB?
It connects with microUSB.
Now that I’ve had a chance to use it a while I’ve found I can set its switch to PC or DC.
When set to PC I just plug it in to my Flyer and can copy files both ways.
When set to DC it will function as a standalone unit (because it has its own battery power). I can plug thumb drives and USB sdcard adaptors into it to move files both ways.
It will even plug into my camera and copy the pictures.
Kind of handy as the Flyer doesn’t supply power at its microUSB port to spin a hard drive.
It’s not what I call well built but seems to work.
At least it does the job! I didn't know we could use OTG harddrive for the flyer...
That's very cool. Vastly increases the number of movies I could take with me on a long trip!
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Ok so spent about £40 on one of these and it doesn't work with my Flyer(32GB WiFi 3G). Flyer is not rooted and running the latest official version of HC. I have tried both DC and PC but device still does not detect the OTG drive. My samsung mobile finds the device fine.
Are you using a standard micro usb cable ??
simtech1976 said:
Ok so spent about £40 on one of these and it doesn't work with my Flyer(32GB WiFi 3G). Flyer is not rooted and running the latest official version of HC. I have tried both DC and PC but device still does not detect the OTG drive. My samsung mobile finds the device fine.
Are you using a standard micro usb cable ??
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Yes using a standard micro usb cable
Try this ... Shut down your Flyer (make sure Fast Boot is unchecked in settings) then turn on your drive in DC mode and restart your Flyer.
Your Flyer should find it then and will work from then on.
Using your file explorer of choice you should see a new folder called USB
Hi, tried this but still no go. Ran a USB host and USB OGB diganostics app which still fail to detect the device. The drive works with my camera/Samsung phone and brothers PSP. May have to fork out for WIFI drive.
Still no go with the OTG device. Tried with a friends Flyer and same results. I am going to try this device, is fairly cheap.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-2-5-For-OTG-LCD-Partner-Storage-Backup-HDD-/260990399369?pt=UK_Computing_HardDrives_RL&hash=item3cc43d7389
simtech1976 said:
Hi, tried this but still no go. Ran a USB host and USB OGB diganostics app which still fail to detect the device. The drive works with my camera/Samsung phone and brothers PSP. May have to fork out for WIFI drive.
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Strange … My Flyer is the 16 Gig Best Buy wifi model and is rooted I wonder if that makes a difference
I use an OTG USB cable on my US BB Wifi Flyer , the standard usb cable doesn't work for me.
DigitalMD said:
I use an OTG USB cable on my US BB Wifi Flyer , the standard usb cable doesn't work for me.
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I have an OTG cable from my samsung but this did not work. what OTG cable are you using? I gather you are connecting the USB device into the OTG cable via a powered hub?
Got it working but it's a hackjob, was going to root but having to downgrade then upgrade again was a pain and was not guaranteed to work. Tried running the OTG cable into a powered hub but for what ever reason would always come up USB device not recognised when plugging in any memory device. Tried 3 USB hubs with the same result. Ended up cutting up an OTG cable and a few other USB cables so I could provide power to the device and then power to the tablet as well. For whatever reason i need to provide power to he memory stick before plugging into tablet. I have tested 4 different memory pens and 1 external harddrive and they all work.
I just bought a generic OTG cable, its about 6 inches long. I think it may have come from HP. I have used both a powered hub and a y-usb hard drive cable and both worked for me.
You have to have power on the device before you plug it onto the FLyer so that on connect the Flyer software knows what type of device it is and can load the driver. Otherwise the Flyer will label it unknown and disable the device.
Managed to get USB on the go to work on my Jetstream. See the following post. as the flyer very similar, should work for flyer too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24814701
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Hi,
I have a wifi only htc flyer and would like to check if anyone has been able to get a usb 3g stick running on their htc flyer?
Thanks,
Kim
Not 100% positive, but the answer is most likely no. Some time ago, i bought an adapter to plug my flash drive in. After a bit of research, it seems the flyer doesn't give off enough power to the usb port, therefore can't power a device attached to it. There might be a way to do it, not sure though.
Hope this helps
Havoc-X said:
Not 100% positive, but the answer is most likely no. Some time ago, i bought an adapter to plug my flash drive in. After a bit of research, it seems the flyer doesn't give off enough power to the usb port, therefore can't power a device attached to it. There might be a way to do it, not sure though.
Hope this helps
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USB Host is supported! You have to use an external powered USB hub though and then connect everything to it. I have pictures of how I found it works here:
http://imageshack.us/g/824/gedc0010w.jpg/
So all we need is drivers and 3G support
I know that HC 3.1 supported USB hosts, but like i said, the flyer can't power the device by itself, you need an external power source, thats kind of an effort when you not at home. But good find
Havoc-X said:
I know that HC 3.1 supported USB hosts, but like i said, the flyer can't power the device by itself, you need an external power source, thats kind of an effort when you not at home. But good find
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Power-Pack-...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1340370531&sr=1-1
? My USB Hub is powered from my PSP charger! The Hub takes 5V and uses the same plug as the PSP.. I have an Idea! It's not Ideal but... Connect the USB Hub to the power pack with the PSP cable, Connect the Hub to the Flyer using a Mini USB cable and a USB Host cable! Et voila, Portable powered hub
I am also interested in this. As an experiment,I have ordered a cheap 3g router. One of the big questions is if it will support any of my usb modems.
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I bought a usb 3g stick with the acompanying sim card, just put the sim into the flyer and am browsing the web no problems. U dont need the stick, unless ur flzer is wifi only
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Hi there.
I got my Galaxy S3 about 3 days ago and love almost everything about it.
I've been experimenting heavily with USB OTG, and it's such a great feature to have. I have got a Mouse, keyboard and USB flash drive all working over the USB OTG cable. I can also get the Mouse and Keyboard connected at the same time over a USB hub. However, USB flash drives refuse to work over a hub on USB OTG, even though they work directly from the phone to the USB. This is pretty confusing to me, considering two higher power devices work over the hub.
I've tried two different varieties of hub, both giving the same result and have also tried two flash drives. I'm using an un-powered hub and I honestly don't see how just because I'm using a hub the USB Flash drive isn't working. There is no way that it can have a higher power usage than a mouse/keyboard at the same time.
Just to note, I'm using the hub unpowered externally, it's going directly into the phone. I can't seem to find the power cable to try.
I have the UK (GSM) variant of the phone in blue and am running on the Stock 4.0.4 ICS firmware (i9300XXLF2) and haven't tried to root or anything.
Could someone suggest what might be the issue I'm having, or some things to try?
Thanks
Its a common IT issue that not everything works through a USB hub. Or even US extension cables.
rootSU said:
Its a common IT issue that not everything works through a USB hub. Or even US extension cables.
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It works through it regularly through a PC.
Both USB sticks. And I've seen a video of someone doing it on youtube. I've also tried both FAT32 and NTFS with the same result.
Can you explain your exact set up please?
rootSU said:
Can you explain your exact set up please?
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Samsung galaxy S3 connected to a small unpowered USB 2.0 hub, via a standard USB OTG cable. Connected to the USB hub is a single USB flash drive of which I have tried a 16GB (14GB actual) stick formatted in FAT32 and a 128mb stick in FAT32. When I connect the OTG cable, it's recognised by the phone. I then attach the USB hub and nothing is recognised, but it is infact working. I can confirm that because I've tried both a mouse and keyboard separately and at the same time through the hub. I have tried another hub with the same result. I then unplug those and put in the flash drive, the red light on the flash drive flashes for a bit and then dies, nothing is picked up by the phone.
Is the hub connected to a PC or not?
Are you saying:
Flash > Hub > PC it works
Flash > hub > Galaxy it does not?
Dont forget a PC USB kicks out 500mA of power which is about the minimum a flash drive would need. If the PC is not supplying the power to the USB via the Hub, I doubt the galaxy could supply that much.
Can you power the hub using the PC?
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
The hub works with the galaxy, but USB through the hub does not. I can connect a Keyboard and Mouse (Both with lots of lights on them) at the same time to the hub on the galaxy which SURELY takes more power than a single USB.
Everything works through the hub on the pc, and most things work through the hub on the galaxy but not flash drives.
So:
Keyboard + Mouse > Hub > Galaxy it works
Flash Drive > Hub > Galaxy doesn't work.
That's why I'm so confused. And power is going to the flash drive, the light turns on and flashes for a while, but is not picked up by the galaxy. The usb flash drive also works under normal circumstances directly through the OTG cable.
Human input devices take next to no power. A USB flash drive needs More. I believe this is your issue as previously mentioned
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rootSU said:
Is the hub connected to a PC or not?
Are you saying:
Flash > Hub > PC it works
Flash > hub > Galaxy it does not?
Dont forget a PC USB kicks out 500mA of power which is about the minimum a flash drive would need. If the PC is not supplying the power to the USB via the Hub, I doubt the galaxy could supply that much.
Can you power the hub using the PC?
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rootSU said:
Human input devices take next to no power. A USB flash drive needs More. I believe this is your issue as previously mentioned
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Seriously?
How come I can't just use one USB on the hub then... I'm only plugging one device into the hub, surely that should just be extending it? Or does it constantly try to power all of the ports? Is there any way I can debug the USB port on the galaxy? Or even limit power to just 2 out of 4 ports?
EDIT: I just read that a micro usb port is generally rated for 500mA+, which explains why the usb works normally, is it just the fact that all of the ports are powered?
MicroUsb is rated for 0.5A, that's correct.
However Usb-to-go is not rated for any output power, only for a list of compatible devices.
It may or may not work with other normal Usb-Devices, and could even be damaged if the slave device uses too much power.
(Unlikely with highend-devices such as the S3)
LED's take next to no power, the keyboard too.
Modern (=optical) mice got some electronic but it's not really high either.
Usb-Hubs however take quita a bit of power and flash drives do so too (especially when erasing "overwriting" blocks).
You could try a powerd usb hub , there might even exist some with a battery pack.
If not, it shouldn't be too hard to strap a battery pack to a hub, however that makes it heavier, clunkier and requires charging...
d4fseeker said:
MicroUsb is rated for 0.5A, that's correct.
However Usb-to-go is not rated for any output power, only for a list of compatible devices.
It may or may not work with other normal Usb-Devices, and could even be damaged if the slave device uses too much power.
(Unlikely with highend-devices such as the S3)
LED's take next to no power, the keyboard too.
Modern (=optical) mice got some electronic but it's not really high either.
Usb-Hubs however take quita a bit of power and flash drives do so too (especially when erasing "overwriting" blocks).
You could try a powerd usb hub , there might even exist some with a battery pack.
If not, it shouldn't be too hard to strap a battery pack to a hub, however that makes it heavier, clunkier and requires charging...
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Okay, that makes sense then.
The hub is tiny and that's the idea, if I could get a tiny battery that'd okay, just irritating really. To be honest, I could do with just two ports, it is just that I sometimes want to use my flash drive in conjunction with another device or something and it's yet another inconvenience to buy another hub.
I may buy a charging pack for my phone, because honestly the battery life is abysmal, do you reckon that I could hook that battery pack up to the hub? Although I don't see that working because the hub in question has a dedicated power input.
Is there a set up you think might work? The idea is to be able to connect some extra storage and keep it fairly compact so that I'm not lugging a load of extra crap around. The hub I'm planning to use is a tiny square, probably about 1.5inches large.
I love the idea of my phone being a mini computer, it really does do just about everything I want, that would make it even better.
EDIT: I've tried a 2 way female splitter, no success there either. I think what I'd really need is a bluetooth keyboard that I can connect to my phone, that also has a usb port I can connect a mouse to, so I can then plug in my stick and use a mouse+keyboard combo.
I'm looking to be able to use my external HDD (1TB WD passport) on my phone via OTG. As I understand, ntfs support varies with kernels etc but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it as I think there's a more fundamental problem.
I've got an OTG cable, and my mouse, usb pen drive, keyboard etc work with it. The HDD doesn't, because the phone can't provide enough power to operate the thing. I thought I could get around this by connecting it via my usb hub (which runs off external mains power) but when I connected this up to the phone and plugged the HDD in nothing happened. Likewise, the mouse and pen drive etc could also not be recognised by the phone when they were each plugged in via the hub (one at a time, I wasn't trying to run 8 things at once!) even though they worked perfectly when the phone itself was powering them when they were directly plugged into the OTG cable (if that makes any sense).
So, assuming it was a problem with the hub, I instead tried the method in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1828032 and made my own y type cable so that now rather than the phone providing power to the OTG peripheral, the power now comes from a standard USB phone charger. I'm fairly confident that I did all the soldering correctly and there weren't any short circuits.
When I tried using this, I had the same issue as with the hub. None of the mouse, the pen drive etc could be recognised with the modified OTG cable, which was odd as physically nothing had changed from the point of view of the peripheral plugged into the OTG (the data cables connecting it to the phone were unchanged, and it was still getting 5V power, just from the wall rather than my phone) which makes me think perhaps the problem is a software one where the phone only recognises a USB peripheral/begins USB host mode if the peripheral is actually draining power, since the power leads running from the phone side of the OTG cable are now just an open circuit.
Just to confirm I hadn't just snipped a data cable by accident when modifying the OTG cable, I re-soldered the OTG cable to how it originally was and it worked the same way it had previously. This means all the data cables are still intact, so I think it must be a software issue.
I thought maybe a way of testing this would be to modify the y cable and connect the red and black power cables coming out of the phone to each other via a fairly hefty resistor (so you still get power flowing from the phone even though the USB peripheral is powered by the wall). But it seems a bit dangerous!
Has anyone else had trouble with this? I've read around on forums and for a lot of people USB hubs and y type OTG cables seem to "just work", although I've not seen anyone with an i9300 reporting success. I'm running the latest version of liquidsmooth, but have also tested on CM10.1 and have the same problem. It might be an AOSP thing that stock samsung firmware will fix?
Let me know your experiences!
TLDR: I'm pretty sure I've got a software issue where my i9300 only recognises a USB peripheral/begins USB host mode via OTG if the peripheral is actually draining the phone's power, and so doesn't work when a USB hub or externally powered (y type) OTG cable is being used.
Thank you!
It apparently only supports 500GB regardless of power source
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rootSU said:
It apparently only supports 500GB regardless of power source
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Really? That's odd - is that an android limitation or samsung? Either way it still seems weird that my y cable/hub didn't work for the mouse/keyboard, is that something you'd expect?
Sorry I didn't read that part.
I have a portable passive hub. Kb and mouse working fine...
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Hello everyone, Im not sure if this topic has been discuss in detail or not, but I have managed to connect a spare 500gb hard drive to my note 3. Here is everything I used.
I upgraded my laptop to a Samsung 250gb SSD, which provided me with a spare HDD:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-MZ-7T...=1387366438&sr=8-2&keywords=samsung+250gb+ssd
It comes with a cable already in it (USB 2.0) so this next item is optional, A Apricorn USB 3.0 Transger cable:
http://www.amazon.com/Apricorn-Note...qid=1387366498&sr=8-1&keywords=apricorn+clone
And lastly, it needs to connect to the phone, so I picked up this USB 3.0 OTG cable:
http://www.amazon.com/White-Color-M...7366411&sr=8-3&keywords=galaxy+note+3+usb+otg
Now here is the steps I took.
Since my HDD still had stuff on it, and it was partitioned, I had to wipe it clean. I formatted the HDD on my computer first. I formatted it to exfat. Maybe another way will work but I'm not testing it. I then hooked up all the wires accordingly and plugged it into my phone. The N3 did not recognize the file format of the HDD so I re-formatted it to the N3 standard. After that, it is as simple as plug and play. I was even able to use the stock My Files app.
Note*** obviously the SSD is not a requirement, unfortunately, I am unable to test it as it has been in my computer for several months and I dont want to risk corrupting anything. It may work with the SSD as well, although I doubt it will reach the speeds it can on a computer.
I am not rooted and did not have to download anything extra for it.
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Cool. But curious as to why you would need a 500G HDD attached to the N3
unleashd said:
Cool. But curious as to why you would need a 500G HDD attached to the N3
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You can use this powerful phone for other things like use it as a media center and connect the phone to your TV
tyvar1 said:
You can use this powerful phone for other things like use it as a media center and connect the phone to your TV
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Hmm..Never thought of that :good:
Transfer movies and stuff back and forth. Also pictures, downloaded documents. Mostly my school work is backed up to it now so if Google drive fails. I'll still be safe :beer:
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Can never have too much space
tyvar1 said:
You can use this powerful phone for other things like use it as a media center and connect the phone to your TV
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This. We were using a variant setup, pushing the content via DLNA to our Xbox 360 (connected to a good ole 'dumb' tube TV). Quite enjoyable.
Damn I didnt even know you could do this
Has anyone found a way to pass through power with a splitter or something so while connecting the USB OTG cable you could still run the phone off of power without depleting the battery? I asked this same question in the Note 8 forum but no one found a way.
trillog said:
Damn I didnt even know you could do this
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I'm sure it can be done. That would be ideal. I have the 10,000mah zero Lemmon battery set to notify me when it's available again. I'll look around for a spilter
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what format was the hdd in exFAT or NTFS ?
I use the OTG dongle to hook up my 1TB drive and play movies and TV shows directly from the drive.
(Also works with the tablet)
I formatted it to exfat. I have a 1tb external also. But it's already formatted to ntfs. And it's full so I'm not going to risk losing a thing on it.
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justin94 said:
Hello everyone, Im not sure if this topic has been discuss in detail or not, but I have managed to connect a spare 500gb hard drive to my note 3. Here is everything I used.
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This is awesome! I have an otg on order from Amazon. I was hoping to use a Logitech wireless receiver for my mouse, and a large 3.0 usb when needed.
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Do not remember where, maybe mono price, but have seen micro USB 2.0 to USB 'A' female splitters.
rEVOLVE said:
Has anyone found a way to pass through power with a splitter or something so while connecting the USB OTG cable you could still run the phone off of power without depleting the battery? I asked this same question in the Note 8 forum but no one found a way.
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Because it's not supposed to work that way... The OTG cable puts your device in "host" mode... so it will use the phones power to run your HDD and kill the ability to charge... there are ways to get power to the HDD so you don't drain your device battery as much but the charging thing is a native function of OTG switching.
This is what i've been using... it has HDMI out ... microUSB 5v input to run the HDD... USB port for HDD or any other USB device... (using a wireless keyboard on it right now)... and card reader ports...
You can fake this thing into trying to charge the phone by plugging in the micro USB connection first and THEN plugging the hub into the phone with the microUSB power already on... then you see the charge notification in the status bar but it still doesn't charge the device... even with the samsung 2amp charger as a power supply... the battery still drains
What about wireless charging? I Don't have a wireless charger or battery cover to test this. But this may work
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What about wireless charging? I Don't have a wireless charger or battery cover to test this. But this may work
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That actually is a good idea to try. I'm less optimistic about that as my previous experience with wireless charging has shown that it is less efficient t getting current to the phone as a wired connection and there are some things done on your phone that even when plugged to a 2A wired connection will still drain the battery.
What about the Smart dock? With 2 USB ports an HDMI and power in?
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there are some things done on your phone that even when plugged to a 2A wired connection will still drain the battery.
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That's the problem I'm running into... I'm running the HDMI/MHL/OTG hub... I got the HDMI out to my flat screen... OTG to a wireless keyboard... bluetooth mouse... When it all hooks up properly (you have to plug everything in the right order) the Note 3 screen shuts off and it runs as a proper CPU with output to the flat screen...but even with the samsung 2 amp charger plugged in I still lose about 1% battery every 5 minutes... better than running without the charger but that s$#t can't be good for the battery running that hard and charging at the same time AND losing the battle.