First of all let me start off by saying that I was deeply disappointed with the performance of the Lapdock on the stock Gingerbread ROM. The idea was great in principle, but it just didn't translate to a good or even satisfactory user experience. The entire device was very sluggish and I quickly regretted my purchase.
However, after flashing the leaked ICS ROM, I was encouraged to see the Motorola has scrapped the dual environment of a Firefox/Smartphone hybrid and went with something that makes much more sense; a Tablet/Smartphone environment. Apps load in their default smartphone resolution, but with the click of a button, you can switch to much higher resolution Tablet view. Credit this to ICS.
Gone are the long periods of waiting for the simplest of webpages to load. Gone are the out of memory errors. Gone is the sluggishness of navigating through simple menus. I actually enjoyed using the Lapdock today for the first time since I purchased it. Sure the lack of Firefox closes some Internet doors, but let's be honest, with the slow performance of the browser...who was watching Hulu anyway? Even full screen YouTube crawled on 4g.
I will post again with more thoughts after I get a chance to spend more time with it over the weekend. But Cheers Moto, way to see that your initial idea was a bust and calling an audible.
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Lapdock 500 or 100?
I'm using the 100. But save for a few hardware differences, the two model perform basically the same.
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I'm using the 100. But save for a few hardware differences, the two model perform basically the same.
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Agreed. The only thing the 500 has over the 14" screen and a webcam.
I actually prefer the compact size and light weight (2.2lbs). Also a 10.1 screen is plenty big enough for me.
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Wish I'd read the OP's post before I returned my lapdock 500 for the same complaints he had. Ended up getting an ATP to replace it.
Well even then, i hate the idea because i use the lap dock as a student. The sound is constantly giving me issues and it is definitively Webtop 3.0 because i never had sound issue with the old webtop. The issue being the sound cracking system wide, not just music. I have to reset the lap dock and from 'hit or miss' i get it working. Also office on android is awful. I have used the Onlive Dekstop app and it doesn't fit the resolution of Webtop 3.0 so pretty useless and clicking on the screen doesn't correspond to the desktop displayed, have to guess where to click. and finally i have spend hefty amounts on 3 different office apps for android all of which have turned out sluggish and useless when it comes to making your own document / spreadsheet. Also when you disconnect your phone the screen glitches, constantly flickering for a while until rebooted. in my opinion, lap dock plus ICS = fail. I hope ubuntu for android releases soon!
Where is this ICS leak you are using?
I just ordered the lapdock and wasn't quite sure on the speed since there isn't a lot of reviews or anything for it. I mainly bought it so I can have a full sized keyboard and bigger screen size for watching tv/movies while not at home and didn't feel like spending a few more hundred just for a laptop I would hardly use.
ubuntu for android will still suck. and the real ubuntu will only be released on devices that they put it on. so razr will not get the ubuntu from the distributor. I bet that the ics tablet layout will be the norm on all devices when universal docks are released. I cant wait until moto releases a tablet style dock like the padphone. it has to be coming, and I will definitely purchase it. I am using a modified atrix dock and it lacks multitouch on the mouse, but I am loving it. The ics webtop is in beta, so I expect this to get better as it is updated. and "hefty" is kind of ridiculous considering that the real office is a few hundred dollars.
Really considering picking up a lapdock since they are only $60 right now. Just not sure how much use it will actually get.
I picked up the Atrix version for my razr. Wish it had multitouch on the track pad. I modded it for auxiliary output. Besides that, with ics the webtop beta is amazing. This should be the default with any device eventually. Hopefully they release a tablet dock, then the RAZR will be upgraded to the functionality of the padphone. Seriously check it out if you can the phone apps that have corresponding tablet apps can be switched to run as the tablet mode when running. Then it will automatically switch back and forth when docking and going back to phone.
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Really considering picking up a lapdock since they are only $60 right now. Just not sure how much use it will actually get.
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where are you getting them for $60?
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where are you getting them for $60?
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I would really like to know where you are getting the docks for $60 also!
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where are you getting them for $60?
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I would really like to know where you are getting the docks for $60 also!
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are you guys serious?
I mean, I know searching is sometimes too hard but how 'bout looking down 5 posts?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1626603
P.S. not flaming, just mystified.
not really worth it for $70 on a refurb when they went on sale for $100 brand new at verizon a couple months. tried it out and didnt really like the it as much so i returned it, hopefully the update has some better features.
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IMO, worth it at $70, not worth it at $200 (which is current pricing for the lapdock 100). Works great for me and I'm on the old version, better than I expected in fact. Looking forward to the ICS version as I think that will be even better but it works well enough as-is to not be worth messing with a leaked version.
how do I modify my atrix lapdock, so that my RAZR fits in? Is there a video-tutorial?
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Anyone running webtop 3.0 care to say how netflix runs? In 2.0 it crashes after the video is done or if you go back to the netflix queue.
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how do I modify my atrix lapdock, so that my RAZR fits in? Is there a video-tutorial?
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Take screws off bottom of connector area, 3 of them, 1 center 2 under feet.
Pop to of back plate, a little force is required.
Remove 2 screws from sides of flip out connector area. Take cover off.
Remove 2 screws from plate holding connectors in. Remove connectors.
Pop back plate back, and replace 3 screws on bottom.
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What's up guys a lil off topic from the photon who owns a tablet? Can anyone recommend a tablet for about $200 thanks
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Personally id try to get an htc flyer with a scribe, but that might be a little out of your price range.
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What's up guys a lil off topic from the photon who owns a tablet? Can anyone recommend a tablet for about $200 thanks
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I have the Asus Transformer but it is more than $200. That is not much for a tablet but might check out the new Kindle Fire. Runs Android and looks like it has a lot of potential. Retails for $200.
I've actually heard some pretty decent reviews on the Kindle. But I haven't personally played with one yet. I know Coby has some, but they are kinda meh, you get what you pay for, ya know?
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I've actually heard some pretty decent reviews on the Kindle. But I haven't personally played with one yet. I know Coby has some, but they are kinda meh, you get what you pay for, ya know?
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That's true thanks for responses I'm going to keep looking I like that flyer for $299 is not bad at all
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Samsung has the Galaxy Tab 7.0" for $300 with the Android 2.3.3 and I think Coby has a 10" with Android 2.3.3 as well for $300. But from what I saw, you're gonna be spending more to get the Tablet that comes with Honeycomb all ready installed. Like $400 and up.
I just bought 32 Archos 80 G9s for a research study. I am very happy with them, but they are a little above your price point. They are not iPad quality, obviously, but they are the best bang for the buck - in my opinion.
Here is some information:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/12/archos-80-g9-review/
http://store.archos.com/archos-p-5016.html
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I just bought 32 Archos 80 G9s for a research study. I am very happy with them, but they are a little above your price point. They are not iPad quality, obviously, but they are the best bang for the buck - in my opinion.
Here is some information:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/12/archos-80-g9-review/
http://store.archos.com/archos-p-5016.html
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Do they come with an HDMI out? I hadn't heard about these but I may be looking into them now. Thanks for the heads up.
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I just bought 32 Archos 80 G9s for a research study. I am very happy with them, but they are a little above your price point. They are not iPad quality, obviously, but they are the best bang for the buck - in my opinion.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/12/archos-80-g9-review/
http://store.archos.com/archos-p-5016.html
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Not bad at all based on the engadget
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Do they come with an HDMI out? I hadn't heard about these but I may be looking into them now. Thanks for the heads up.
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It does have an mini hdmi out. Here are the full specs:
http://store.archos.com/archos-p-5016.html
They also have a 10.1 inch for $369. You can also up the internal memory for a few dollars more, but it has an SDcard slot, so I figure I can just by a large flash memory card if I need more storage.
By the way, their office is in Colorado, they speak perfect English, and their customer service was great! They also gave me a very good deal on the 32 devices that I bought. I'm a happy camper.
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Do they come with an HDMI out? I hadn't heard about these but I may be looking into them now. Thanks for the heads up.
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I think it just said it comes with USB port not sure
Nvmd it does have a HDMI port
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I think it just said it comes with USB port not sure
Nvmd it does have a HDMI port
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Yeah it does. About the only thing that it does not have is a rear facing camera. Other than that, I think the specs are about as good as they get (at this point in time).
Any thought on this tablet
m.sears.com/productdetails.do?partNumber=SPM5929370402
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Here is another thorough review of the Archos G9: http://www.slashgear.com/archos-80-g9-review-video-25182615/
This is the review that made me buy 32 sight unseen.
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Here is another thorough review of the Archos G9: http://www.slashgear.com/archos-80-g9-review-video-25182615/
This is the review that made me buy 32 sight unseen.
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Based on that review can't wait to get home check it out on Amazon
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Awesome. I may have to take a look further into it. Do they have a lapdock type deal?
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Do they have a lapdock type deal?
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Not that I am aware of. They have a cardock for some of the older versions, so they might have that for the g9 in the future, but I dont know about a future lapdock or sorts.
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Based on that review can't wait to get home check it out on Amazon
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Here is the link: http://www.amazon.com/Archos-80-501...D31W/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1318561051&sr=8-4
I got mine bulk price for about $230. This is probably the best deal on a single unit.
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Personally id try to get an htc flyer with a scribe, but that might be a little out of your price range.
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I LOVE MY FLYER! best tab out in my opinion. The Kindle Fire has too many "Amazon only" restrictions, making it just like the iPad...
Pew! Pew! Pew! From my Mo-Pho!
http://android-gz.com
Remember, though... no tablet smaller than ~10" runs Real Honeycomb -- officially, unofficially, or otherwise. Google has never released the source, and has stated that they never will. I'm sure it'll get leaked eventually and/or ICS will make its way to "substandard" tablets sold without Honeycomb... but you'll probably be stuck waiting AT LEAST six months for that to even be a possibility.
If you're buying it to use as a tablet, that might not matter. If you're buying it to develop and test tablet-oriented apps on a real device, it's probably a deal-breaker (plenty of stuff that runs perfectly well under Froyo or Gingerbread on a low end tablet breaks catastrophically on a real Honeycomb tablet).
One other note -- if cases (especially layered or bumper-type cases a-la Otterbox) are important to you, find a case you like BEFORE you commit to buying a tablet. Some tablets, like the Toshiba Thrive, are awesomely appealing, but don't have a single bumper/otterbox-type case available, and none on the radar either.
As MoPho owners, there's an obvious family appeal of the Xoom... but be warned, it has the exact same "black crush" problem that the Photon does (in fact, that was what originally tipped me off that the Photon's black crush problem is almost certainly the result of a bad 24-bit to 16-bit quantization error from an incorrect gamma curve somewhere along the pipeline, and NOT a problem with the screen itself).
Also, if you use Graffiti, be aware that the Xoom's Graffiti support sucks. As far as I can tell, the Xoom is a lot more aggressive about slowing down the CPU than the Photon is, and (like HTC) blindly assumes that a soft input area is used for slow, purposeful taps instead of high-precision motion tracking. Let me put it this way... on my ancient 711MHz-overclocked Hero w/CM7 and scaling disabled so it runs in "Performance" mode, Graffiti is butter smooth and effortlessly accurate. On my Photon, it's decent (say, 99.5% accurate). On my Xoom, it's borderline unusable -- maybe 97% accuracy under the best conditions, and with visible lag (the underlaid outline tracing my finger path lags the finger itself by about 300ms and ~1cm).
Know that most tablets won't charge from USB, but some will "limp" and draw power from usb when available (ie, they won't charge the battery, but they won't really drain it further when connected via USB).
Take it with a pound of salt, but I've heard the Thrive's glass is more vulnerable to breakage than other tablets. On the other hand, the Thrive has a nice, wide, thumb-friendly bezel to grab. The Xoom's bezel is about a half centimeter narrower than I'd really consider to be ideal.
If you can wait 5 weeks, I can almost guarantee you'll be able to get a real Honeycomb tablet from SOMEWHERE for $249 or less on Adam Smith Day (the day after Thanksgiving, when Americans gather in our cathedrals of commerce and celebrate capitalism by spending money like there's no tomorrow...)
The Acer Iconia A 100 does run an official version of Honeycomb and it's a 7 inch tablet.
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I'm in the market for a tablet and I like the idea of getting a product that's featured in a google video. I figure that it's used as the "official" testing/development device.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uwap6qTfauM
Thanks!
Motorola Xoom possibly? Or they probably just rendered a random tablet. I wouldn't get a tablet just because it is in a Google video. Esp not the Xoom
Looks like a Xoom.
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Motorola Xoom possibly? Or they probably just rendered a random tablet. I wouldn't get a tablet just because it is in a Google video. Esp not the Xoom
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Yeah, I wouldn't get it for that reason alone, but if the TP was the "official" google testing device, that would be awesome.
A lot of the speculation is that it was a Xoom running ICS, which would speed it up quite a bit. Xoom is supposed to get an ICS update soon, so that may have been what it was. And since Google now owns Motorola, it is likely they used one for their videos.
Yeah, I think you guys are right. The volume rocker on the Xoom is in the upper-left side. You can see them sticking out in the video.
Weird that they get rid of the "Motorola" on the top since they own the company.
On a side-note: after how terrible the Atrix/Bionic were, I would never consider getting a Xoom. There's no good reason why a dual-core phone should run so bad.
yea, it's a xoom. but i'd only buy one if you want to be completely annoyed and dissapointed with such a ****ty device.
or if you got one for $50, because that's all that POS is worth.
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yea, it's a xoom. but i'd only buy one if you want to be completely annoyed and dissapointed with such a ****ty device.
or if you got one for $50, because that's all that POS is worth.
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Hahahaha!
I can't believe the pricing of the second generation Xoom WITH CONTRACT. What a joke.
Hopefully, the TP gets ICS in the near future.
It's definitely a Xoom. There is the Verizon and Motorola logos on the top of the tablet. That aside yes it is running ICS, you can tell from the Roboto font and the blue status icons. I owned a Xoom for a couple of weeks until I returned it and promptly waited on the Original Transformer. Now I sold my TF and I'm waiting on the Prime. lol
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It's definitely a Xoom. There is the Verizon and Motorola logos on the top of the tablet. That aside yes it is running ICS, you can tell from the Roboto font and the blue status icons. I owned a Xoom for a couple of weeks until I returned it and promptly waited on the Original Transformer. Now I sold my TF and I'm waiting on the Prime. lol
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You're right! You can see the logos for the first second of the video until they get washed out from the contrast.
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Yeah, I wouldn't get it for that reason alone, but if the TP was the "official" google testing device, that would be awesome.
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It was said that Transformer prime is the referrence tablet for google on ICS.
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Yeah, I think you guys are right. The volume rocker on the Xoom is in the upper-left side. You can see them sticking out in the video.
Weird that they get rid of the "Motorola" on the top since they own the company.
On a side-note: after how terrible the Atrix/Bionic were, I would never consider getting a Xoom. There's no good reason why a dual-core phone should run so bad.
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My Atrix runs perfect. No slowdown, great battery life, fast screen transitions, plays games fine. You just got a bad one or batch. They have it here running 1.4-1.8 GHz overclock in xda. Custom roms, CM7/9.
Im getting the samsung galaxy note as soon as it drops here in u.s. ;-) anyways..lol
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Hahahaha!
I can't believe the pricing of the second generation Xoom WITH CONTRACT. What a joke.
Hopefully, the TP gets ICS in the near future.
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yea, they basically gave it the screen it should have had in the first place (which is no where near as nice as the ips+ screen on the prime) and cut the corners off for no reason whatsoever.
when the original tablet testing device for HC (xoom) had no uSD card support for a port it launched with for MONTHS and MONTHS, i'll take one that asus has tinkered with and made better any day of the week.
so far asus has been great with updates for the TF101, so i have no doubts they will get ICS on the prime asap as well. and with all the hype around the prime, assuming they get some supply out there, i have high hopes for the dev community around this device.
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yea, they basically gave it the screen it should have had in the first place (which is no where near as nice as the ips+ screen on the prime) and cut the corners off for no reason whatsoever.
when the original tablet testing device for HC (xoom) had no uSD card support for a port it launched with for MONTHS and MONTHS, i'll take one that asus has tinkered with and made better any day of the week.
so far asus has been great with updates for the TF101, so i have no doubts they will get ICS on the prime asap as well. and with all the hype around the prime, assuming they get some supply out there, i have high hopes for the dev community around this device.
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I wonder if they cut the corners off to avoid an Apple lawsuit.
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I wonder if they cut the corners off to avoid an Apple lawsuit.
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more likely it was just moto being moto, as in moto being a bunch of complete idiots that can't build anything good anymore, come up with excuses as to why they can't live up to their promises to the community and will dissapear in the next year when google gets fed up of their crappy products that don't deserve 1/2 the price the set them at.
but i digress, bottom line to the OP, get the prime (after i get mine of course) and you will be FAR less dissapointed than buying anything motorola, dev device or not. (personally, if you really want a "dev" tablet, get the IO edition galaxy tab, far better piece of hardware imo.
I've had my photon since October. I've been an avid HTC fan until I picked up this phone. Sold I was. I've never looked back.
However, I really like the new evo lte. I have serious problems when it comes to new toys that are easy to obtain with something as simple as the swipe of magical plastic.
That being said...
My theory on Motorola and the rumored Photon Q is as follows;
Motorola has said, according to an article on either engadget or AC, that the quad core Tegra 3 with lte will be ready Q4. The fall CTIA is October 9th - 11th. I'm gonna say we will either see an event a week before or an event at CTIA in October. Things just seem to be coming together like a good game of tetris.
Now I really don't wanna burn and uograde when I'm expecting to see something amazing from Motorola. I'm also betting Motorola picks up the ubuntu project which I also think will be shown off in October.
That's a lot of speculation... Lol
So, I'm thinking I'm gonna keep the photon and buy a dock and a keyboard and a mouse and hook it up to this 73inch monster sitting in my living room. Only problem with that is the reviews saying that webtop just sucks a big set.
Questions...
Is webtop that bad?
Is it worth it for somebody who might find it useful?
Is all the functions of the device still there? Text and calls and what not.
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Webtop sucks. Useless. Has really specific use case scenarios and very, very little beyond that. Good news is Moto know this, and have made some head way towards fixing it with the new ICS webtop on the RAZR, which will presumably be included on the Photon's ICS update. It's basically the ICS tablet interface with properly scaled apps and a separate home screen layout from the phone. Quite cool.
Tegra 3 is ****e, though, and I can't imagine the LTE variant will be any better. Snapdragon S4 trounces it in very meaningful ways like browser performance, battery life, and audio quality. I desperately wish the international/open market One X had S4 instead of Tegra 3 (Though I still wouldn't buy it because the One X has no SD slot... Whereas the Evo LTE does). If I had the option, you bet I'd buy the Evo LTE over whatever Moto churns out at the end of this year. Next year, under Google, Moto might have a shot - and open bootloaders. This year I for one have been burned enough.
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Well what is webtop good for? What specific uses?
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Webtop sucks. Useless. Has really specific use case scenarios and very, very little beyond that. Good news is Moto know this, and have made some head way towards fixing it with the new ICS webtop on the RAZR, which will presumably be included on the Photon's ICS update. It's basically the ICS tablet interface with properly scaled apps and a separate home screen layout from the phone. Quite cool.
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Well what is webtop good for? What specific uses?
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Useless if you are locked but if you unlock it has near unlimited potential. ICS Webtop on the other hand is a joke and is a move in the wrong direction. ICS Webtop should be an extension of "Mirroring Mode" and Moto should replace the current Webtop with a proper desktop environment. If Ubuntu and I can run a proper desktop environment on an Atrix/Photon why the hell can't Motorola. Here's a write up as to why stock Webtop and ICS Webtop are full of fail.
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Useless if you are locked but if you unlock it has near unlimited potential. ICS Webtop on the other hand is a joke and is a move in the wrong direction. ICS Webtop should be an extension of "Mirroring Mode" and Moto should replace the current Webtop with a proper desktop environment. If Ubuntu and I can run a proper desktop environment on an Atrix/Photon why the hell can't Motorola. Here's a write up as to why stock Webtop and ICS Webtop are full of fail.
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Wow, they are moving backwards
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Citrix web apps. And if you use it for work, and your company has a draconian device policy that makes it easier to authorise one device and use it on multiple screens rather than actually use a laptop.
Apologies for neglecting the Ubuntop/Webtop Plus dev. Have yet to try it thanks to being stuck on locked Moto devices myself. Looks great, and I can think of many more uses for a full Linux distro in my pocket.
I actually like what they're doing with the new webtop, though I wish it was more powerful and could run the phone apps in a window like the old webtop. There's a lot of merit in taking advantage of Android's built in scaling, and having a separate UI with widgets and so on for larger screens is a great idea.
Ultimately I wish webtop was ChromeOS, since that would make the most sense from a Google product and service consolidation perspective.
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Looks like tegra 3 won't be out till 2013
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tegra 3 is out now, tegra 3 + (lte support wont be out til late this year, the phones are already being made and software tested. ALL the high end sprint phones will have s4 chips this year.
I'd be ok with a quad core S4 like that lg superphone is rumored to have.
So with webtop just blowing chunks, can you get ubuntu to run on a stock photon that's locked? Or is unlocking mandatory?
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i really doubt it will have the quad core, sprint isnt gunna one up the evo a few months after by having such a much nicer phone.
and ubuntu isnt even out yet so its not possible at all right now
Like Loki said, his Ubuntop makes webtop into a beast. Your performance will compare with the original netbooks in some ways, but in another it just makes your device infinitely more versatile than just a netbook. Even if you don't extend webtop, basically imagine a Chromebook that uses Firefox instead of Chrome. The only other native application would be the Cell phone window that lets you use your cell phone in an IM like form.
It's not all bad, it's a heck of a lot better for nothing. Before I changed webtop I mostly read webcomics, social sites and used Google Docs. After Lokifish's improvements I now have Bluefish, Abiword, Gnumeric, a real desktop experience that doesn't sacrifice anything from the phone. It is only too awesome to have your phone move seamlessly from being a handset to a miniature computer without any skips in calls or text messages. Since I chose to integrate Google Voice I can text from the web without anyone being the wiser.
so. ...... what can we do now top make whip or get ubuntop now? ... and how do i do the hdmi hack? before people start saying search function or google. i trust people on xda..... and the search function using the app on my phone always says no results no matter what i put in
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Ubuntu actually being a full fledged mobile os is pure speculation right now unless I'm missing recent news. Canotical was vague on the subject. It very well could be talking about some sort of official webtop-esk support.
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so. ...... what can we do now top make whip or get ubuntop now? ... and how do i do the hdmi hack? before people start saying search function or google. i trust people on xda..... and the search function using the app on my phone always says no results no matter what i put in
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HDMI hack....if your talking about Nebtop: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1404625
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HDMI hack....if your talking about Nebtop: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1404625
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for that dang locked bootloader:/
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Webtop sucks. Useless. Has really specific use case scenarios and very, very little beyond that. Good news is Moto know this, and have made some head way towards fixing it with the new ICS webtop on the RAZR, which will presumably be included on the Photon's ICS update. It's basically the ICS tablet interface with properly scaled apps and a separate home screen layout from the phone. Quite cool.
Tegra 3 is ****e, though, and I can't imagine the LTE variant will be any better. Snapdragon S4 trounces it in very meaningful ways like browser performance, battery life, and audio quality. I desperately wish the international/open market One X had S4 instead of Tegra 3 (Though I still wouldn't buy it because the One X has no SD slot... Whereas the Evo LTE does). If I had the option, you bet I'd buy the Evo LTE over whatever Moto churns out at the end of this year. Next year, under Google, Moto might have a shot - and open bootloaders. This year I for one have been burned enough.
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Would you like some coffee with your negativity?
halfdriven said:
Would you like some coffee with your negativity?
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Lmaoooo
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I have a touchpad 32gb and have CM9 on it with nightly build. ANdroid on it is not smooth at all and i could care less about webos. I am not seing any new update on this device, do you guys think, it'd be a good idea to sell it and buy a nexus 7 instead?
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I have a touchpad 32gb and have CM9 on it with nightly build. ANdroid on it is not smooth at all and i could care less about webos. I am not seing any new update on this device, do you guys think, it'd be a good idea to sell it and buy a nexus 7 instead?
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Here's my answer to the same question, on another thread : Personally, I wouldn't, but that's me.
If that's what you want, go for it.
I like the ability to change from webos to android, but then I really like webOS."
Since you don't like webOS, and aren't satisfied with the android experience on the TP, then I would say 'go for it'.
My android runs well, and I find webos an excellent os, it just lacks the apps android has.
What are the benefits of moving from a CM9 device with a working flash browser and large internal storage to a 8 or 16 gig Nexus 7.
For me there is no killer app or feature that justifies the need to move. Having tried JB I'm really not that fussed.
Yes, development has slowed but CM9 is more than adequate on the Touchpad. I would wait for the next Android OS upgrade and the next nice bit of kit to be released.
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What are the benefits of moving from a CM9 device with a working flash browser and large internal storage to a 8 or 16 gig Nexus 7.
For me there is no killer app or feature that justifies the need to move. Having tried JB I'm really not that fussed.
Yes, development has slowed but CM9 is more than adequate on the Touchpad. I would wait for the next Android OS upgrade and the next nice bit of kit to be released.
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The quad core processor on the n7 goes a long way, as does the "built for android" aspect. Them there's jelly bean, and the higher resolution display.. The list goes on and on. I'm considering doing the same thing. My One X has a tegra 3 chip like the nexus 7 and provides a much better android experience.
--Matt
personally i cant stand a smaller screen. the one on the touchpad is as small as i could tolerate. if you do a lot of traveling the 32gb could come in useful if you want to store larger files/more files etc.
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What are the benefits of moving from a CM9 device with a working flash browser and large internal storage to a 8 or 16 gig Nexus 7.
For me there is no killer app or feature that justifies the need to move. Having tried JB I'm really not that fussed.
Yes, development has slowed but CM9 is more than adequate on the Touchpad. I would wait for the next Android OS upgrade and the next nice bit of kit to be released.
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To be honest storage is THE ONLY reason that has kept me from doing that yet. If google had a 299 for 32gb id be gone already. DOnt know why they dont even have that already
You guys crack me up, talking like storage space and screen size are the only factors in choosing a tablet. Our touchpad only gets used for web/forum browsing, etc. when our livingroom laptop is in use, so I couldn't care less how much it has. We've got phones, computers, media center, etc. for media...don't you? What the heck are you storing on that thing that needs so much space?
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You guys crack me up, talking like storage space and screen size are the only factors in choosing a tablet. Our touchpad only gets used for web/forum browsing, etc. when our livingroom laptop is in use, so I couldn't care less how much it has. We've got phones, computers, media center, etc. for media...don't you? What the heck are you storing on that thing that needs so much space?
--Matt
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Movies, TV shows. I dont watch those on my phone, hence having a tablet
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Movies, TV shows. I dont watch those on my phone, hence having a tablet
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+1 and its a handy bedside TV , news reader and all round entertainment center. Its also great to take on holiday as it not as bulky as even my smallest laptop.
I use plex to stream my movies to my touch pad so I hardly use any space whatsoever on my touch pad. Though for whatever reason the speaker in my touch pad recently just crapped out on it. It crackles really bad.
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To OP, hell yes.
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It comes down to personal preference!
I came from a og galaxy tab. I was really glad about the larger screen. I also have the 32 GB version.
Sure its only got cm9, I would like a more functional jelly bean ROM, but as it stands there isn't anything wrong with it.
Tbh, I think the touchpad holds up well even against the honeycomb tablets. And from that respect, the nexus 7 is only a "one gen" ahead of the touchpad.
I won't give up mine, mostly cause I love the touchstone charger, and its not like the touchpad was a bad deal to start with. I would however change to a nexus 10 if that ever gets made.
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Unstable Wi-Fi is a headache. Otherwise the touch pad is a very capable android tablet.
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Depends on what you are doing with the touchpad.
If you need a tablet with a long battery life -> change to the Nexus 7
If you need a small, light weight tablet -> change
If you want play the newest games with bombastic graphic -> change
If you want to be up-to-date with your Android Version, even if you dont know what the difference to the previous version is -> change
If you want to make Skype Calls with a working camera -> change
Maybe 1-2 more Points.
If you are using your TouchPad just at home to surf the web, read mails and check the weather, like I do, than stay with the TouchPad. Even if the development died finally, CM9 like we have it now, and the hardware of the Touchpad, will be more than enough for the next 1-3 years.
The only thing that could force me to change would be a Nexus 7 7" or 10" with 3G for less than 300€.
i don't think there is still a lot of people want a used touchpad, considering that a new 32 gb playbook is 100 dollars now
You might hold off shortly to see what happens with Openmobile. If it comes out this month as expected the best of both worlds will come together.
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Just got the nexus 7 this weekend and loving it. It is definitely feeling small right now, but I'm getting used to it. The speed is awesome, even blows my gnex out of the water. App compatibility was my major reason to switch. The touch pad is still a nice product, my wife still uses webos on hers. But for an android junky, the 7 is the way to go.
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Simple answer.... YES!
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Try updating to the newest nightly great smooth and stable rom
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I have both and I'm not really sure which one i prefer yet. I find myself grabbing the GNEX more than anything. I'm trying to get another N7 for my wife though, so we could be an All-Nexus household since she has a GNEX as well. For that silly reason alone I might sell the TP
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I'm thinking about getting one, to replace an Atrix HD and Nexus 7 3G 2012.
The concept sound cool, and the price is nice on contract, I'm just wondering how people feel about the execution after some weeks of ownership.
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I'm thinking about getting one, to replace an Atrix HD and Nexus 7 3G 2012.
The concept sound cool, and the price is nice on contract, I'm just wondering how people feel about the execution after some weeks of ownership.
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If you are in need of a new phone and new tablet the padfone X can be a good option. Just remember the tablet does not work without the phone attached to it. Some see this a blessing, others a curse. Personally I like the setup, I do not have to sync two separate devices and the cost is great. Others need to have have two separate devices that can each operate on its own.
The phone part of the Padfone X works just fine by itself and is high quality. Call quality is good, people do not realize they are on speakerphone even when the phone is docked into the pad.
The pad is a little on the heavy side and with its 1inch bezel looks somewhat old school, but what it lacks in form it makes up in function. It works great as a tablet. Both the screen on phone and pad are vibrant and responsive. I have not ran across any phone apps that do not work well while in the tablet mode. You can make calls and text while the phone is docked. Some reviewers have complained about some apps not transitioning well when the phone is being docked or undocked. This has not been really been an issue for me as I usually do not need app to transfer. I usually just close an app then remove the phone. The call and text apps seem to transition well.
The slot which holds the phone into the pad protudes from the back a bit. This a slight annoyance as the pad is a little unstable sitting flat on a flat surface. But the phone is held real securely in the pad while at the same time being easy the insert or remove.
The camera is pretty sweet. It work fast and the color is good.
The speaker volume is adequate but I would liked just a bit louder. That being said, I have yet to install a volume booster.
If someone was needing only a phone, perhaps another high-end phone would be a better option. If someone is in the market for both a tablet and phone, I would give the Padphone X a good look.
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I'm thinking about getting one, to replace an Atrix HD and Nexus 7 3G 2012.
The concept sound cool, and the price is nice on contract, I'm just wondering how people feel about the execution after some weeks of ownership.
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So far, I am loving mine. My only concern is it currently does not work with ART. This could mean no Android L for us, but the ART is fairly new and I am sure ASUS will update their system apps to work with the new runtime. Other than that, its fantastic. Android wear support, fast, decent storage, SD card slot, amazing battery life with the dock. I bought this a bit impulsively, but I do not regret it in the least. The design of both the phone and dock are a bit on the bland side, but they are in no way ugly, and the displays are impressive, so they look nice. Really, it comes down to you. Go to an AT&T store and try one on display.
It's new so root and rom options are still limited.
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What are the rom options?
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None, for now.
But there's a xda forum and it's out in the US so I think there will be choices later, unlike previous PadFones which are stuck to stock roms.
Should i keep it?
Well, I've had this phone almost 12 days...soon is last call to return it if I don't want it.
The main selling point was the tablet mode. My stepson broke my Android tablet and my Windows PC tablet was less functional than my HTC One m7. I frequently use Office 365 sharepoint, Ring Central, Google Voice, and telephone. Bigger screen with functional app makes the day much nicer.
And the hardware and camera seemed comparable.
I don't like the "glitchieness" I've run into running different default messaging apps and launchers. I also get a lag with multiple processes running, even when limiting processes in developer options and when using a task killer.
I also like to try different roms and change the appearance a lot. I don't know how to contribute to this much besides donation.
So I'm kinda thinking about a big screen phone like a Note or the LG Curve...whichever has more developer interest.
Anybody regret their purchase or would choose a different phone is they were me?
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Well, I've had this phone almost 12 days...soon is last call to return it if I don't want it.
The main selling point was the tablet mode. My stepson broke my Android tablet and my Windows PC tablet was less functional than my HTC One m7. I frequently use Office 365 sharepoint, Ring Central, Google Voice, and telephone. Bigger screen with functional app makes the day much nicer.
And the hardware and camera seemed comparable.
I don't like the "glitchieness" I've run into running different default messaging apps and launchers. I also get a lag with multiple processes running, even when limiting processes in developer options and when using a task killer.
I also like to try different roms and change the appearance a lot. I don't know how to contribute to this much besides donation.
So I'm kinda thinking about a big screen phone like a Note or the LG Curve...whichever has more developer interest.
Anybody regret their purchase or would choose a different phone is they were me?
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I do not regret my decision to keep the Padfone X but it meets my needs. My Padfone does not have the glitchiness you have encountered.
Your needs seem to be more demanding and perhaps a separate phone and tablet are in order.
On a related note, I have rarely regretted my decision after returning an item.
Well, late last night I got bored and got adventurous. I wiped the phone, salt super su, installed TWRP. I have actually not had a problem this time. It's running apex launcher, thumb keyboard, some widgets and live wallpaper and its working fine. Knock on wood.
The only thing I did different this time was installing the recovery and I didn't go into the developer settings and turn the animation of.
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Whenever I dictate text, and any app, if a word is underlined and I tap it to pick a different word, whatever app I am using crashes.
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And oh boy... the frustration of dictating a whole work email, & then forgetting and the thing crashing and having to start all over again!
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And oh boy... the frustration of dictating a whole work email, & then forgetting and the thing crashing and having to start all over again!
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Give it about another week before updates start rolling out, ASUS has been pretty good with updates and addressing glitches with previous devices.
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Give it about another week before updates start rolling out, ASUS has been pretty good with updates and addressing glitches with previous devices.
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Received my Padfone S and it downloaded 3 updates already
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Received my Padfone S and it downloaded 3 updates already
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How is your Padfone S going? I'm looking to get that model specifically over the X. Basically, of what I've heard of the phone, at best it's above average, and at worst, still just above average, haha. So, fairly mediocre in its reviews. Do you find it to be the same?
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How is your Padfone S going? I'm looking to get that model specifically over the X. Basically, of what I've heard of the phone, at best it's above average, and at worst, still just above average, haha. So, fairly mediocre in its reviews. Do you find it to be the same?
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To be honest... it does have some issues but updates are being pushed very fast... today i received a 250 mb update.
Sometimes the home button doesnt responds for a few seconds, and stuff like that.
But i am very satisfied with it. My battery combined with the station is great on moderate to lot of usage... i watched 6 twitch dota 2 matches over 4g on the phone alone, then watched 3 more on wifi with tablet mode... 24 hours later the phone alone had still 30%, and that felt great.
The phone is fast almost 99% of the time, and at least the camera is a big upgrade for me (had a Moto X).
Tablet mode is great but beware, the phone does become a little loose and touch sensitivity is totally lost on some areas of the screen, so you must keep ensuring that the phone is properly in place if you move a lot. Just ensure the phone in proper place and it works great.
So far, i am very happy with the phone... i usually buy flagships (htc one, moto x) and right now i dont want to use another, i love this one.
Several glitches have been resolved so i am counting on ASUS to fix the rest.
Hope this helps.
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Finally talked my wife into getting a smartphone. She didn't like using my phone and protested saying she would hate a smartphone. To complicated and hard to understand. I bought her the Padfone X. Started her off on the tablet which made the transition to the phone easier for her to understand. She hasn't put the thing down since. She loves it and shows it off to everyone. Everyone we have shown it to wants one. It's not a perfect device but it is a long way from being a crappy device. I would happily recommend this device.
just ordered mine off Amazon for $99
sounds like a good buy to me, even if the Station turns out to be crap