I'm in the market for a tablet and I like the idea of getting a product that's featured in a google video. I figure that it's used as the "official" testing/development device.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uwap6qTfauM
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Motorola Xoom possibly? Or they probably just rendered a random tablet. I wouldn't get a tablet just because it is in a Google video. Esp not the Xoom
Looks like a Xoom.
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Motorola Xoom possibly? Or they probably just rendered a random tablet. I wouldn't get a tablet just because it is in a Google video. Esp not the Xoom
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Yeah, I wouldn't get it for that reason alone, but if the TP was the "official" google testing device, that would be awesome.
A lot of the speculation is that it was a Xoom running ICS, which would speed it up quite a bit. Xoom is supposed to get an ICS update soon, so that may have been what it was. And since Google now owns Motorola, it is likely they used one for their videos.
Yeah, I think you guys are right. The volume rocker on the Xoom is in the upper-left side. You can see them sticking out in the video.
Weird that they get rid of the "Motorola" on the top since they own the company.
On a side-note: after how terrible the Atrix/Bionic were, I would never consider getting a Xoom. There's no good reason why a dual-core phone should run so bad.
yea, it's a xoom. but i'd only buy one if you want to be completely annoyed and dissapointed with such a ****ty device.
or if you got one for $50, because that's all that POS is worth.
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yea, it's a xoom. but i'd only buy one if you want to be completely annoyed and dissapointed with such a ****ty device.
or if you got one for $50, because that's all that POS is worth.
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Hahahaha!
I can't believe the pricing of the second generation Xoom WITH CONTRACT. What a joke.
Hopefully, the TP gets ICS in the near future.
It's definitely a Xoom. There is the Verizon and Motorola logos on the top of the tablet. That aside yes it is running ICS, you can tell from the Roboto font and the blue status icons. I owned a Xoom for a couple of weeks until I returned it and promptly waited on the Original Transformer. Now I sold my TF and I'm waiting on the Prime. lol
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It's definitely a Xoom. There is the Verizon and Motorola logos on the top of the tablet. That aside yes it is running ICS, you can tell from the Roboto font and the blue status icons. I owned a Xoom for a couple of weeks until I returned it and promptly waited on the Original Transformer. Now I sold my TF and I'm waiting on the Prime. lol
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You're right! You can see the logos for the first second of the video until they get washed out from the contrast.
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Yeah, I wouldn't get it for that reason alone, but if the TP was the "official" google testing device, that would be awesome.
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It was said that Transformer prime is the referrence tablet for google on ICS.
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Yeah, I think you guys are right. The volume rocker on the Xoom is in the upper-left side. You can see them sticking out in the video.
Weird that they get rid of the "Motorola" on the top since they own the company.
On a side-note: after how terrible the Atrix/Bionic were, I would never consider getting a Xoom. There's no good reason why a dual-core phone should run so bad.
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My Atrix runs perfect. No slowdown, great battery life, fast screen transitions, plays games fine. You just got a bad one or batch. They have it here running 1.4-1.8 GHz overclock in xda. Custom roms, CM7/9.
Im getting the samsung galaxy note as soon as it drops here in u.s. ;-) anyways..lol
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Hahahaha!
I can't believe the pricing of the second generation Xoom WITH CONTRACT. What a joke.
Hopefully, the TP gets ICS in the near future.
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yea, they basically gave it the screen it should have had in the first place (which is no where near as nice as the ips+ screen on the prime) and cut the corners off for no reason whatsoever.
when the original tablet testing device for HC (xoom) had no uSD card support for a port it launched with for MONTHS and MONTHS, i'll take one that asus has tinkered with and made better any day of the week.
so far asus has been great with updates for the TF101, so i have no doubts they will get ICS on the prime asap as well. and with all the hype around the prime, assuming they get some supply out there, i have high hopes for the dev community around this device.
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yea, they basically gave it the screen it should have had in the first place (which is no where near as nice as the ips+ screen on the prime) and cut the corners off for no reason whatsoever.
when the original tablet testing device for HC (xoom) had no uSD card support for a port it launched with for MONTHS and MONTHS, i'll take one that asus has tinkered with and made better any day of the week.
so far asus has been great with updates for the TF101, so i have no doubts they will get ICS on the prime asap as well. and with all the hype around the prime, assuming they get some supply out there, i have high hopes for the dev community around this device.
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I wonder if they cut the corners off to avoid an Apple lawsuit.
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I wonder if they cut the corners off to avoid an Apple lawsuit.
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more likely it was just moto being moto, as in moto being a bunch of complete idiots that can't build anything good anymore, come up with excuses as to why they can't live up to their promises to the community and will dissapear in the next year when google gets fed up of their crappy products that don't deserve 1/2 the price the set them at.
but i digress, bottom line to the OP, get the prime (after i get mine of course) and you will be FAR less dissapointed than buying anything motorola, dev device or not. (personally, if you really want a "dev" tablet, get the IO edition galaxy tab, far better piece of hardware imo.
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A lot of places are dumping Tegra 2 tablets for $299-349 and I would guess this is because of Kal-El being just around the corner. So, what do you guys think. Is it worth picking up a Tegra 2 tablet for $299 or wait until roughly December which is when the new Asus Transformer 2 with Kel-El is supposed to drop (and be presented some time this month)?
I'm waiting for Kal-El. I've been wondering how much they paid DC comics to use that name though....
lol prolly less than they would of paid for super man. I'm personally excited they are droping that low it means I finally might be able to afford a tablet. I think that price is much more reasonable considering a tablet is considered lower on the tech food chain than a laptop but a lot of laptops are cheaper.
the slider looks awesome but I'm waiting on the Kal-el too
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A lot of places are dumping Tegra 2 tablets for $299-349 and I would guess this is because of Kal-El being just around the corner. So, what do you guys think. Is it worth picking up a Tegra 2 tablet for $299 or wait until roughly December which is when the new Asus Transformer 2 with Kel-El is supposed to drop (and be presented some time this month)?
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Depends on your situation bud. I'm a graduate student and will get great use out of a tablet. I owned a galaxy tab 10.q for roughly ten days. I loved it, and I was sad to return it. But I don't have money to burn, so I decided my money would best be invested in a quad core tablet coming in the near future. Such a tablet would last me much longer than a Tegra 2, based on hardware alone.
If your just looking for a toy, and want to save some money, then tegra 2 might be your best bet.
Not really looking for a toy. I have a pretty big gaming laptop and lugging it around sucks. Especially now that I also have to haul around a car seat with a 15+ pound squirt in it.
I really want something that is zippy with minimal lag, where I can open, edit, and manipulate office crap (word, excel, etc), have a great web browsing experience, watch videos and music without lag, jitters, or any weird crap, and have long battery life. Mainly I would be using it at work where I can't do anything...including personal e-mail, on the computer there, but would have complete open wifi access.
I'm pretty sure I'll wait for Kal-el, but I was thinking of getting a Transformer with dock on sale and then dump the Transformer when the T2 is actually selling which might not be until December or January...just not sure if I am being smart or getting caught up in the "craze."
The Nook Color, while awesome, just wasn't awesome enough.
For the money I would go with the original galaxy tab. I've had my Sprint tab for over two months and still can't put it down, and also gettin.g on contract for $199.99. Even with the single core hummingbird processor, I am currently rooted and have custom ROM with touchwiz 5 and overclocked to 1.2 gighrz on stock kernel and get quadrant scores of 2800-3000+ which is better then any stock tablet out right now. With the custom ROM this tablet is fast, plays every game flawlessly and plays any movie like glass, including blueray movies without converting. So I would recommend the original tab or pay a little more and get galaxy tab 10.1 or the HTC flyer is a very nice tab aswell.
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I'm waiting for Kal-El. I've been wondering how much they paid DC comics to use that name though....
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Wasn't Kal-El just an internal code-name that got publicized/popularized by leaked roadmaps and such? If so they probably didn't have to license it at all.
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Im going to wait. I got my E3D to toy with till then.
Cant wait though
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Wasn't Kal-El just an internal code-name that got publicized/popularized by leaked roadmaps and such? If so they probably didn't have to license it at all.
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You're replay reply sparked my interest about it. So I looked up the nVidia line-up. Wow. Not sure who's does the naming but apparently he likes comics.
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You're replay sparked my interest about it. So I looked up the nVidia line-up. Wow. Not sure who's does the naming but apparently he likes comics.
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Way to look dumb as hell trying to make someone else look dumb.
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Wow way to be a complete douche bag by noticing my typo of 'reply'. Wow man. I hope you are proud of yourself and I hope your parents are proud of you for turning out this way man. Really. I do.
But who am I trying to make look dumb and how am I trying to make them look dumb?
So....anyhow.... Anyone know of any other manufacturers who are in the process of making Kal-El based tablets? I noticed Acer was on sale for $100 off at a number of retailers. Although that isn't any form of confirmation, it does seem like they are clearing inventory to make room for something...but I could be dreaming a bit. I really liked the design/spec balance on the Iconia for a non-dockable tablet.
This is a normal usage test I was doing on both the tablets I got for early xmas gifts
Since I don't need two, I was trying to decide which one to keep.
Notes:
Transformer Prime is running on normal mode, full brightness (super ips mode off).
Both tablets are running the same version of GO Launcher EX and the same live wallpaper.
The Prime shipped with non-working GPS, a piece of dust inside the screen right above the docking port. It also has screen bleed that is very noticeable during boot screen and is some-what noticeable during normal use (its right above dock port on the status bar.).
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The Touchpad has very minor screen bleed which is barley noticeable during boot screen and not noticeable at all during use.
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I recorded my experience on video.
http://youtu.be/-DGnI4Lx91M
Good show. Looks like $99 was a better deal so far... I'm sure once seven get their hands on the prime, she will sing. But HP isn't doing too bad for non native android running on it...
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think long term potential on the prime v. the touchpad especially when ICS and custom roms come out for the Prime..the Beast will be unleashed (quadcore to its full potential)
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Good luck finding a touchpad for 99 dollars :/
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Good luck finding a touchpad for 99 dollars :/
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That's the thing, the price comparison is rather disingenuous. If you managed to get one for that, it was an amazing deal and it'll be a long time before anything will beat it on value. But you can't go out to a store now and buy one, and that was never the intended price - a deal like that isn't likely to be coming around again any time soon.
It looks pretty competitive with the Prime on those tasks you showed, although there has to be some advantage running CM7 compared to the Prime's almost brand-new Honeycomb firmware; we'll have to see how the Prime develops with ICS and, hopefully, custom ROMs, as it surely has more power under the hood if it can bring that to bear.
Specific issues aside, I think a lot of the disappointment around this tablet is coming from those who already have a decent dual-core tablet (especially if it was bought at an unbelievably good price..!) and were expecting the Prime to be dramatically faster out of the box. It remains to be seen whether quad-core tablets will "age" slower than dual-core ones, as I've experienced on the desktop, but I consider the quad-core an investment in the future more than anything else. Quad-core SoCs will surely start to take over at the high-end in time, and then more optimisations will be made for them when they do. I wouldn't upgrade from this year's dual-cores to Tegra 3, though - those devices are still decent, and if you already have a good tablet it makes more sense to hang on to that at the moment and see what comes around next year.
Apples to Oranges. You're comparing an overclocked custom kernel, on a custom ROM (CM7...that is unmatched in speed by any and all stock ROMs out there), on a tablet bought at fire-sale prices...to the Prime purchased at full retail price, running a stock kernel/ROM, running an aftermarket launcher that's slower than pond water on the Prime (stock HC is light-years faster) and say the Prime doesn't measure up.
There is a serious issues of validity in your "experiment".
Edit: please don't try to take this as me blindingly defending the Prime. I'm just trying to keep invalid misinformation to be taken as "word of god" as it often happens on the internet.
seriously man, at this point im getting really sick of you, every thread you go in all you talk about is your damn touchpad and how crappy the prime is, if thats the case fine, sell the prime and keep your touchpad...but leave these forums and go troll in the touchpad one
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seriously man, at this point im getting really sick of you, every thread you go in all you talk about is your damn touchpad and how crappy the prime is, if thats the case fine, sell the prime and keep your touchpad...but leave these forums and go troll in the touchpad one
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Totally agree.
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i was not impressed with the primes hardware, software or screen. IMO my HP Touchpad runs better, good roms and screen colors are better.
selling it. dont become negative this is just my conclusion after testing each side by side. the primes price makes it not worth it to me considering the HP Touchpad does everything I would use the prime for but better and it was $300 cheaper.
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Just sell it and go to the Touchpad forums?
Look, I've got issues with my prime too. But we all know this comparison is a little bit sneaky. It's like taking an underpowered econo car that the dealership is trying to get rid of and throwing twin turbos on it - yup, it'll probably beat some high-powered coupes off the show room floor, and most of us might be happy with that. But deep down inside you know it's a pretty stupid comparison.
Just give the prime some time.
lol at this!
come on this is a blatant touchpad fan boy post.
having a CM7 custom ROM vs stock first revision of ROM on a tablet that's been out since last week.
lmao, so many people get butt hurt over it... (calm down, its just a side by side comparison of the two devices I have)
The bottom line is that the prime has 5 cores, the touchpad has 2 cores but according to setcpu its only using 1 of its cores.
And also the prime seems to be shipping with many nasty defects (for $499 you wouldn't expect that) where the touchpad didnt have any (except for a tiny amount of light bleed).
I decided to keep both devices. Touchpad for development and the prime for gaming (although right now it cannot play too many games, but im sure it will change in the future.).
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And also the prime seems to be shipping with many nasty defects (for $499 you wouldn't expect that) where the touchpad didnt have any (except for a tiny amount of light bleed).
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How do you know the Touchpad had very little issues? you bought it at $99, way late in the game. Ask the people who paid $499 for the 32GB when it first came out. Most of the original issues have been resolved over time. Search the web and see, the touchpad had many issues in its infancy. The Prime is in it's infancy but will grow up to be a great BIG BOY!
My Touchpad has many issues in both webOS and CM7.. CM7 alpha 3.5 was working fine but now it stutters and force closes a lot.. for the webOS.. the damn thing just keeps disconnecting from the my router at random times and the only way for me to get it working again is to reboot the Touchpad.. I got it for my son to play with but he's gotten frustrated with it and steals my Transformer to play with.
There are some issues and quirks I can live with. My son can do so as well. The Touchpad has issues that gets him too frustrated though and he's usually one to tell me anything can be fixed
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lmao, so many people get butt hurt over it... (calm down, its just a side by side comparison of the two devices I have)
The bottom line is that the prime has 5 cores, the touchpad has 2 cores but according to setcpu its only using 1 of its cores.
And also the prime seems to be shipping with many nasty defects (for $499 you wouldn't expect that) where the touchpad didnt have any (except for a tiny amount of light bleed).
I decided to keep both devices. Touchpad for development and the prime for gaming (although right now it cannot play too many games, but im sure it will change in the future.).
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Congratualtions, you successfully gimped the prime with go launcher.
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@OP how come my stock browser on prime is running fluid with just a settings mod and your touchcrap needs CM 7 with overclocked processor to achieve the same.
people are not but hurt you infantile.
your showing a highly custom ROM well into the devices launch when they had time to work on it verses a brand new tablet which has had zero time for devs to work on it.
Just sell your TP and then go with your touchpad....It's that plain and simple! Have a nice day and please stay out of the TP section
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Apples to Oranges. You're comparing an overclocked custom kernel, on a custom ROM (CM7...that is unmatched in speed by any and all stock ROMs out there), on a tablet bought at fire-sale prices...to the Prime purchased at full retail price, running a stock kernel/ROM, running an aftermarket launcher that's slower than pond water on the Prime (stock HC is light-years faster) and say the Prime doesn't measure up.
There is a serious issues of validity in your "experiment".
Edit: please don't try to take this as me blindingly defending the Prime. I'm just trying to keep invalid misinformation to be taken as "word of god" as it often happens on the internet.
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good points. plus I stopped watching his video after the opera mobile comparison. I counted down how long it took for each to first show something on page and then finish completely loading the page. his touchpad clearly showed it was the loser in that comparison. took almost double the time of prime to fully load that web page on his touchpad. prime was also faster on showing something from page on screen first. same with his Netflix comparison. I loved how he gave his touchpad a few seconds to load and start scrolling vs. the prime which he started scrolling immediately..lol. touchpad failed in that comparison also. even with him giving the touchpad a lil more time to load, prime still showed more on screen first and loaded movies up faster. the touchpad had a bunch of gray squares when first loaded and took longer to fully load all the movies on-screen. as far as his UI scrolling goes, looks to me that prime performed just fine. there where even instances on his touchoad where his taps or scrolls didn't immediately register and looked laggy. touchpad for 99 is a great deal, hands down. but its in no way competition to the prime, on any front.
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Prime touchpad blah blah blah... As far I can use the touchpad for all my task I want from a tablet and smooth. Who care about 5 core. I bet the ipad is best, because of the more than 10 cores lol.
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How do you know the Touchpad had very little issues? you bought it at $99, way late in the game. Ask the people who paid $499 for the 32GB when it first came out. Most of the original issues have been resolved over time. Search the web and see, the touchpad had many issues in its infancy. The Prime is in it's infancy but will grow up to be a great BIG BOY!
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Congratualtions, you successfully gimped the prime with go launcher.
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@OP how come my stock browser on prime is running fluid with just a settings mod and your touchcrap needs CM 7 with overclocked processor to achieve the same.
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people are not but hurt you infantile.
your showing a highly custom ROM well into the devices launch when they had time to work on it verses a brand new tablet which has had zero time for devs to work on it.
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Just sell your TP and then go with your touchpad....It's that plain and simple! Have a nice day and please stay out of the TP section
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all this is too funny. I will admit for only 99 that touchoad is a good device, it looks like. the comparisons to Prime though falls very short for several reasons.
I have a 32 gig iPad 1 and am looking to trade it for an Android tablet. Someone just offered up their GTablet. It looks great hardware wise but the screen worries me. Without the ability to inspect the unit yet I wanted to go right to the source.
What do you guys really think about the screen and viewing angle on the GTab?
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I have a 32 gig iPad 1 and am looking to trade it for an Android tablet. Someone just offered up their GTablet. It looks great hardware wise but the screen worries me. Without the ability to inspect the unit yet I wanted to go right to the source.
What do you guys really think about the screen and viewing angle on the GTab?
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Honestly, The GTab has the worst viewing angle of all tablets. It is horrible compared to my Xoom and worse compared to my TF. The GTab screen works OK, you just have to be in front of it.
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Honestly, The GTab has the worst viewing angle of all tablets. It is horrible compared to my Xoom and worse compared to my TF. The GTab screen works OK, you just have to be in front of it.
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What angle in degrees does it start to fall off?
You can see it fall away at 10 degrees both vertically and horizontally. And good luck viewing it outside... LOL
It is what it is, a great device to hack on and play with. This was my first Android device and I learned about an OS that I previously had no clue about. That's probably why I still have it.
Guess that pretty much makes my mind up. I'll hold out for something better.
Thanks for the input.
There are definitely better devices out there if you want something that works right out of the box, and there are quite a few devices coming out soon with pricing comparable to the gTablet. The gTablet viewing angle isn't the best, especially since the screen was made for netbooks. That being said, it works fine for me. I knew the shortcomings before getting it, and was expecting worse. It won't be up to par with an iPad at all.
Where the gTablet excels is the ability to tweak it. From the many different ROMs out there (FroYo, Gingerbread, and Honeycomb versions), plus a very active development community working on bringing ICS to the gTablet, it can be a tinkerer's delight.
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I can't even seem to give my gtablet away! I mean jesus christ, I had that on sale for a while... little bites here and there, but no one ends up buying it.. I ended up giving it to my 4 year old daughter to learn stuff... since then, it has been sitting on the nightstand... I mean seriously, I cant give this thing away!!!
I own a gtab. There is no comparison between an ipad (assuming gen 1 because 2 makes no sense) and a gtablet. Ipad is simply a more refined higher quality product with better integrated software esp if you own any other mac products. Still don't think the msrp on an ipad (either gen is worth it for what any tablet offers). The screen issue goes beyond the viewing angle. The screen is sharper on the ipad for reading - especially magazines.
What gtab does very well is have a huge user development base that is on the verge of unleashing ICS for us to play with. After that everything begins and ends with the difference in screen quality and apps.
That said I enjoy my gtab and am in no hurry to upgrade (unless I found someone who wanted to trade an ipad for it) as I can deal with it's limitations vs. the cost I paid to get something with these hardware specs.
ssmr2t: curious what you tried to sell your gtab for. I would think somewhere between 125.00 and 150.00 and it would be gone in a heartbeat unless it's all beat up. But I don't think it's worth more than 150.00 nowadays by any stretch.
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I have a 32 gig iPad 1 and am looking to trade it for an Android tablet. Someone just offered up their GTablet. It looks great hardware wise but the screen worries me. Without the ability to inspect the unit yet I wanted to go right to the source.
What do you guys really think about the screen and viewing angle on the GTab?
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I haven't turned on my gtab in about three months. Yeah. They suck pretty hard. It has one good viewing angle - dead on, slightly tilted, as if it were attached as a screen for a cheap netbook, which is exactly what it is - the screen from a cheap netbook.
If you want to trade for mine, let me know
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I can't even seem to give my gtablet away! I mean jesus christ, I had that on sale for a while... little bites here and there, but no one ends up buying it.. I ended up giving it to my 4 year old daughter to learn stuff... since then, it has been sitting on the nightstand... I mean seriously, I cant give this thing away!!!
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I'll take it if you want to pay for shipping
srsly though, the viewing angles of the screen suck. if you aren't looking at it at the exact perfect angle part of the screen is just dark. though whatevs, it works for me.
As for an exchange I'd hold off for something better. might be able to get a Xoom.
People on here are crazy to think a first-gen ipad is better than the Gtab. Complain about the screen all you want, iOS is ****e.
I will also pay shipping for that Gtab you can't seem to 'give away'.
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People on here are crazy to think a first-gen ipad is better than the Gtab. Complain about the screen all you want, iOS is ****e.
I will also pay shipping for that Gtab you can't seem to 'give away'.
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So there you have it, the gtab is worth about $10 - the cost to ship it somewhere
Seriously, it's a fine hacking android tegra2 device with no vendor support and flagging xda support. Oh, and that first gen iPad? yeah, it's running iOS5. From Apple. Without any hacking needed at all. And THAT is better than a tablet that was disowned by the reseller (viwesonic) and the ODM (forgot what the Chinese company's name was - malta? whatever) the day it shipped.
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So there you have it, the gtab is worth about $10 - the cost to ship it somewhere
Seriously, it's a fine hacking android tegra2 device with no vendor support and flagging xda support. Oh, and that first gen iPad? yeah, it's running iOS5. From Apple. Without any hacking needed at all. And THAT is better than a tablet that was disowned by the reseller (viwesonic) and the ODM (forgot what the Chinese company's name was - malta? whatever) the day it shipped.
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iOS5 doesn't make it better.
You'd have to pay me to allow itrash in my house.
So there you have it, the ipad1 is worth -$10
Seriously though, I have 7 and 9 years old boys and they ALWAYS choose their Gtabs over grandma and grandpa's ipads, thank goodness!
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No, just supported. Which is worth whatever you deem it to be.
For what it's worth some of us actually like the Gtab...
I use it for work and it's great. It's just as fast as any other tablet I've used. I hold it or have it on my desk, I haven't a clue about whether it works from an angle or not and I really don't know why anyone would care. I guess from this forum some people prefer to look at it that way.
I have Honeycomb on it, VTL launcher, Dropbox and a million programs which if they are any good do what I want. A screen protector which keeps the fingerprints way down and a nice case.
The only issue I have is the weight, too heavy to use as a Kindle.
If it breaks I'll get something different, maybe an Ipad, maybe not.
I threw V6 supercharger on my tab running FB 10.3 and it's made a big difference. Yeah the screen sucks, but it doesn't matter to my 2yo, who is the main user.
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It is almost criminal to say a first gen ipad is even close to being as ****ty as a gtablet.
I own a gtablet and it really is only useful as a play around with android device.
The iPad one is still the second best tablet on the market.
And this is coming from a person who owns a gtablet, droid incredible, and a galaxy nexus.
Put aside your fanboyism before you convince someone to jump into a terrible trade.
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It is almost criminal to say a first gen ipad is even close to being as ****ty as a gtablet.
I own a gtablet and it really is only useful as a play around with android device.
The iPad one is still the second best tablet on the market.
And this is coming from a person who owns a gtablet, droid incredible, and a galaxy nexus.
Put aside your fanboyism before you convince someone to jump into a terrible trade.
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Calling fanboyism on others while stating 2 sentences prior, "The iPad one is still the second best tablet on the market."
Priceless.
There's probably a dozen Android tablets out there that are better than the iPad v1, especially when you consider in price. There are many tablets better than the iPad 1 in specs, price and OS. All they lack is a half masticated fruit logo.
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I've got a Xoom. It's cool but it kind of bogs down sometimes with live wallpapers and other stuff open. Did anyone go from the Xoom to the Prime? Is it worth the money for the performance?
ualdriver said:
I've got a Xoom. It's cool but it kind of bogs down sometimes with live wallpapers and other stuff open. Did anyone go from the Xoom to the Prime? Is it worth the money for the performance?
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I didn't go directly from a Xoom to the Prime, but I owned a Xoom. I would definitely say the Prime is worth the cash. The developer support isn't there yet, but it's coming, and this tablet is a beast. (That is if you can find one you can tolerate)
05GT said:
I didn't go directly from a Xoom to the Prime, but I owned a Xoom. I would definitely say the Prime is worth the cash. The developer support isn't there yet, but it's coming, and this tablet is a beast. (That is if you can find one you can tolerate)
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When you say tolerate, are you one of the people I have been reading about that got a bad tablet? Is Asus fixing this stuff or am I better off waiting for a while to save myself some frustration?
ualdriver said:
When you say tolerate, are you one of the people I have been reading about that got a bad tablet? Is Asus fixing this stuff or am I better off waiting for a while to save myself some frustration?
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I don't have any issues with mine. I traded for my initial Prime here in the for sale section with Killster. He'd already opened and verified that it had a serial and was upgraded to ICS. A little bleed in one of the corners, but it is barely noticeable.
My second is coming from the for sale section here as well. I've been guaranteed that it is issue free as well.
I came from the Xoom and the Prime is much better. One of the first things I did was try out the galaxy live wallpaper that I really like but couldn't use on my Xoom because of the lag it caused. The Prime is running with that wallpaper with no lag at all. Totally smooth. I had to return my first Prime because the wifi started loosing signal range after a week all of a sudden. My 2nd prime has been perfect so far. I really like the tablet and the dock makes it even better. Highly recommend the upgrade.
Considering xoom is only dual core then ya it will be better. I have an Acer dual core tablet and it will lag with most live wallpaper and using HDMI to TV. Some games are not as smooth either when panning like shadowgun or mc3.
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Yeah, I'm sure it's faster, but I wanted to get an idea how much faster. After I sell my Xoom on eBay and buy a new Prime, I'll probably be out $150-$200, so I wanted to make sure that there would be at least some pretty significant performance increases.
Is there anything coming in the next few months that will out perform the Prime? I thought I read that there is a new Prime coming out with a plastic back or something for better wifi connectivity. And I'm definitely not interested in the iPad.
I'm coming from the xoom & now i have the prime & the keyboard dock but i will be getting the TF700 when it comes out.The Prime is way better than the Xoom.
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Yeah, I'm sure it's faster, but I wanted to get an idea how much faster. After I sell my Xoom on eBay and buy a new Prime, I'll probably be out $150-$200, so I wanted to make sure that there would be at least some pretty significant performance increases.
Is there anything coming in the next few months that will out perform the Prime? I thought I read that there is a new Prime coming out with a plastic back or something for better wifi connectivity. And I'm definitely not interested in the iPad.
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If you keep it honeycomb then for general use like web surfing you probably wont be able to tell the difference as there is still some lag with stock browser. Where you see the difference is in screen swiping and app drawer. Prime is pretty much lagfree 99% of the time. Also when hooking it up to TV via HDMI the Prime doesn't stutter or lag at all regardless what app or screen your in. And if you upgrade Prime to ICS then this is where you will see a huge difference even in browsing as there is barely any stuttering or lag. It's worth the $150 extra you have to pay to get it IMO.
Now if you want to wait for the next asus 700t then you will need to fork up another $100 so you will be down $250. From what I read the 700t is going to be retail at $599 for the 32gb. Not official yet though. AND you have to play the waiting game till they officially release the product to market. By then probably a few more months another device will come out by another manufacturer. So you can wait for that again.
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Now if you want to wait for the next asus 700t then you will need to fork up another $100 so you will be down $250. From what I read the 700t is going to be retail at $599 for the 32gb. Not official yet though. AND you have to play the waiting game till they officially release the product to market. By then probably a few more months another device will come out by another manufacturer. So you can wait for that again.
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Is that 700t the one with the plastic back I was reading about? What are going to be the major differences between the 700t and the Prime?
ualdriver said:
I've got a Xoom. It's cool but it kind of bogs down sometimes with live wallpapers and other stuff open. Did anyone go from the Xoom to the Prime? Is it worth the money for the performance?
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I still have the Xoom for development and have a UK prime with the keyboard dock.
The Prime is running ICS and Xoom 3.2, so not a direct comparison, and I leave the Prime docked all the time, as it's nice to have a full screen when typing and it gives you amazing battery life.
Prime has better screen; tablet is lighter (but heavier docked); faster, especially when in browser. I had the free Bluetooth keyboard and mouse for Xoom, but never really used them, as it was too awkward to carry, but the Prime is like a Mac Air with touch. But be warned, you'll start touching your laptop screen after using the Prime docked for a while
Only thing that is a pain is no use of the ubiquitous micro USB, so no spare leads...
So yes, get it if you can afford it, but get the keyboard dock
sorry to reopen this thread.
Got my prime, but have to return it today because of ligth bleed, and poor gps/wifi. Its in Denmark and the serial starts with C.. so we also have bad primes.
Anyways, the Xoom 32 Wifi Only is almost ½ the price atm, so im really considering it.
How good has the Xoom become with ICS compared to the Prime with ICS?
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sorry to reopen this thread.
Got my prime, but have to return it today because of ligth bleed, and poor gps/wifi. Its in Denmark and the serial starts with C.. so we also have bad primes.
Anyways, the Xoom 32 Wifi Only is almost ½ the price atm, so im really considering it.
How good has the Xoom become with ICS compared to the Prime with ICS?
Need an fast answer
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No matter if xoom get Android 5.0. It won't never be better than a prime it has old dualcore. If you want to save money just get the xoom then. If you want the latest greatest most powerful tablet out, get the prime. Prime will be more futureproof with the power it has. You get the xoom, you will still end up getting another device soon based on how slow it is. So it's really a waste. Just get a prime again, and that'll last a long time without being outdated or seeming like it lacks power.
im getting what you're saying..
but to be honest. Sometimes holding the prime im getting crazy about that sd card sticking out. I also think its to thin/sharp at the edges.. but I also like its thin..
im just confused.. I just need to know if browser/mail/casual gaming/720p-videos are almost the same experince rigth now.. and yes. maybe I'll upgrade around fall/chrstimas again, but thats ok with the low price.
In the end you will end up spending more if you get the xoom now knowing you'll get rid of it later. I'm sure you will lose a lot money on it if you sell it and all these new tablets with better spec will be out by then. Then you have to fork up cash for the new tablet. And it's possible those new tablets could also have their own issues.
http://www.slashgear.com/fujitsu-roadmap-reveals-transformer-prime-rival-more-16213769/
It seems like every company is trying to make a tablet now.
What next, the bose ultra sound enhanced tablet with free CD changer dock?
i500 said:
It seems like every company is trying to make a tablet now.
What next, the bose ultra sound enhanced tablet with free CD changer dock?
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OH LAWD PLEASE!
Lol, at least Bose would put more than one speaker into their media consumption device! And if not, it would be a damn good one speaker
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http://www.slashgear.com/fujitsu-roadmap-reveals-transformer-prime-rival-more-16213769/
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The problem with some device manufacturers is they have no ongoing commitment. They'll test the waters and if things go well they'll continue and they'll pull out if they don't. Sharp's been in and out of Android tablets twice. The only one's I see committed are Asus, Samsung, and Motorola. HTC and LG have a reason to stay invested because of the similarity to phones (3G) but their first devices have been kind of meh. In spite of the A510 and A700, Acer's cut their Android development staff in half. And if a manufacturer's not invested their not going to keep up with OS upgrades and there will be weak or no dev support.
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The problem with some device manufacturers is they have no ongoing commitment. They'll test the waters and if things go well they'll continue and they'll pull out if they don't. Sharp's been in and out of Android tablets twice. The only one's I see committed are Asus, Samsung, and Motorola. HTC and LG have a reason to stay invested because of the similarity to phones (3G) but their first devices have been kind of meh. In spite of the A510 and A700, Acer's cut their Android development staff in half. And if a manufacturer's not invested their not going to keep up with OS upgrades and there will be weak or no dev support.
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Lenovo seems like they are here to stay
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Lenovo seems like they are here to stay
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Lenovo sux though and has no developement support what so ever here in xda, basically. Just like the Toshiba thrive(which I almost purchased before the prime but were sold out. Glad I didn't get it..lol). Lenovo pushes out updates veryy slowly. One of their devices that's been out for the longest time is not seeing ICS till summertime.
Only thing I used to be impressed with was the rumored Lenovo tab that had a dock. The one they had all the cool demo videos on. This was way back before I even got my Ipad about 2 years ago. Man it was soon cool looking. I think was even before OG transformer was released. That idea had soon much potential and would've been the first real transformer tablet, per se. Constant delays n such n i don't think it never really saw light of day or specs were seriously dumbed down into current Lenovo tabs now.
Same deal with the Legendary Microsoft Courier tablet. Dual screen. The tech demo was sick! I wanted that so badly man. Was really disappointed to hear Microsoft decided not to make it. This was all around the time of first Ipad release. I tried my hardest to get anything but an Ipad bit in the end, at that time, Ipad was the the best tablet out period. And ended up liking it very much. So much I waited basically 2 yrs. To get a new tablet. Being the Prime I own. Now we at a point in time where Ipad isn't the only or best choice out there. Several great android tablets to compete and be a good alternative to Ipad. If galaxy tab 7.7 would've released earlier, I might would've had that instead of prime. I was really impressed with its specs and newer processor in it compared to other Samsung tablets out. I will get a Galaxy note once it releases shortly for AT&T. Gotta upgrade my Atrix n get a Phablet instead.
Like Barry said, I'd be Leary of new comers to Android sector. No guarantee on continued support plus lack of experience. That new Sony dual screen tablet is very cool. Only drawback is that it still has an outdated tegra2 in it. Love the clamshell fold up it has. Can easily slip in a coat pocket or whatever.
But Damn, I wish the Microsoft Courier would've became reality. Lol. Still to this day, one of the coolest tablet designs I've seen. If you've seen that tech demo on it, you would know how cool it was and that was years ago.
This a longer version of previous video. This could've revolutionized tablet computing.
Edit: here's the Lenovo tablet from 2yrs. Ago I use to get so hyped over. The U1 Hybrid. This blew away the Ipad in my mind. One of the coolest tech demos out and music great also....damn man...brought back memories finding this SMH
Hmmm.. Fujitsu.. These are people with great resources and massive tech expertise. Hope they stay.
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