Was just wondering, once HTC finally update our devices to ICS, will developers be able to port over a fully working and bug free sense 4.0 or will there still be problems with the camera, etc?
Sense 4.0 looks to be a fair bit faster than 3.6 so hopefully developers will have all they need to port it properly.
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Bug free? Probably not but they will be close to bug free.
I love sense 4 so hopefully it'll all be sorted but i'm not sure due to the camera problems which have plagued this phone.
I really didn't see these problems coming before i bought it, research is going to be top of the pops for me next time i upgrade.
fade2black101 said:
Was just wondering, once HTC finally update our devices to ICS, will developers be able to port over a fully working and bug free sense 4.0 or will there still be problems with the camera, etc?
Sense 4.0 looks to be a fair bit faster than 3.6 so hopefully developers will have all they need to port it properly.
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I am 100% certain that yes, they will indeed be able to create a fully functioning, 100% bug free Sense 4.0 ROM for our EVO 3D's. The only problems now on the Virtuous Sense 4.0 ROM are Camera and Bluetooth, both of which will be incredibly easy to port over for the talented Virtuous team once an official ICS build for EVO 3D is leaked/released by HTC. I kid you not, if you don't need to use the camera or a bluetooth headset, that ROM is perfect as a Sense 4.0 daily driver.
Patience my friend, it will come
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I am 100% certain that yes, they will indeed be able to create a fully functioning, 100% bug free Sense 4.0 ROM for our EVO 3D's. The only problems now on the Virtuous Sense 4.0 ROM are Camera and Bluetooth, both of which will be incredibly easy to port over for the talented Virtuous team once an official ICS build for EVO 3D is leaked/released by HTC. I kid you not, if you don't need to use the camera or a bluetooth headset, that ROM is perfect as a Sense 4.0 daily driver.
Patience my friend, it will come
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Awesome.. That was the only thing I was unsure about (whether the ICS drivers we'll get well work fully with sense 4)
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I am 100% certain that yes, they will indeed be able to create a fully functioning, 100% bug free Sense 4.0 ROM for our EVO 3D's. The only problems now on the Virtuous Sense 4.0 ROM are Camera and Bluetooth, both of which will be incredibly easy to port over for the talented Virtuous team once an official ICS build for EVO 3D is leaked/released by HTC. I kid you not, if you don't need to use the camera or a bluetooth headset, that ROM is perfect as a Sense 4.0 daily driver.
Patience my friend, it will come
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That's a gsm only rom though correct?
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That's a gsm only romantic though correct?
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Yep...we probably won't see 4g working on the sprint cdma side.
Yea seeing the only official sense 4.0 phone for sprint is an LTE phone, I doubt we will ever see WiMax on a Sense 4.0 ROM.
I would be thrilled if their was, but no need to get hopes up
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That's a gsm only rom though correct?
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Hey is there any non HTC sense ROM out there with the 3d camera on it. I flashed miui earlier and it was awesome but it didn't have the 3d camera!
thx,
Ognimnella
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ognimnella said:
Hey is there any non HTC sense ROM out there with the 3d camera on it. I flashed miui earlier and it was awesome but it didn't have the 3d camera!
thx,
Ognimnella
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Short answer: I doubt it. I'm also skeptical any non HTC sense ROM will receive 3D support. The 3D support is fairly complicated, especially given all the source code is closed. In order to get access to any of it, it will require a developer to reverse engineer HTC's work.
Reverse engineering a massive function such as 3D would be a very time intensive task. Most developers probably don't have the time to dive into reversing engineering the 3D, especially when the outlook seems to be this is the only 3D device released on sprint and no future devices has been announced to support 3D.
Sorry that makes a pretty glummy picture although all my opinion and speculation I think it expresses the view points of most of the community.
If HTC were to open source their 3D code, wow, it would probably be adopted and improved very quickly by the community.
Hope that helps explain some of the issues around porting HTC 3D support to non HTC Sense ROMs!
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Short answer: I doubt it. I'm also skeptical any non HTC sense ROM will receive 3D support. The 3D support is fairly complicated, especially given all the source code is closed. In order to get access to any of it, it will require a developer to reverse engineer HTC's work.
Reverse engineering a massive function such as 3D would be a very time intensive task. Most developers probably don't have the time to dive into reversing engineering the 3D, especially when the outlook seems to be this is the only 3D device released on sprint and no future devices has been announced to support 3D.
Sorry that makes a pretty glummy picture although all my opinion and speculation I think it expresses the view points of most of the community.
If HTC were to open source their 3D code, wow, it would probably be adopted and improved very quickly by the community.
Hope that helps explain some of the issues around porting HTC 3D support to non HTC Sense ROMs!
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Written perfectly,
I'm not a dev. But I think the 3d has actually slowed the development of a lot of things as a result of that unknown code,
And miui's camera barely works.. if they are having trouble with that just imagine trying to mess with 3d,
Shot from my shooter in 3D
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ognimnella said:
Hey is there any non HTC sense ROM out there with the 3d camera on it. I flashed miui earlier and it was awesome but it didn't have the 3d camera!
thx,
Ognimnella
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Have you tried to use Senseless rom?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1198099
Ok oh well. You guys should have seen me when I successfully flashed MIUI, I was like a kid I'm a candy store man (this if the first device I have ever had to support it) but then I tried to take a picture and what the hell, no 3D. I didn't buy a 3D phone to not freaking use it. Oh well though, I guess I'll just be a sense guy until (or if) HTC stops bring stingy with the 3D source. Thanks anyway dudes...
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Or try hd revolution senseless rom.... The 3d camera should work on that.
ognimnella said:
Hey is there any non HTC sense ROM out there with the 3d camera on it. I flashed miui earlier and it was awesome but it didn't have the 3d camera!
thx,
Ognimnella
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Try the DarkSense Rom... I actually like Sense but I Flashed that Rom thinking it had Sense but it Didn't have the Home screen but had the other Sense stuff! So it might have the 3D Camera?
Im using WTSB Rom now, its the fastest ROM I have ever seen. I just need to learn how to flash the correct kernel on hboot 1.5
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Ok oh well. You guys should have seen me when I successfully flashed MIUI, I was like a kid I'm a candy store man (this if the first device I have ever had to support it) but then I tried to take a picture and what the hell, no 3D. I didn't buy a 3D phone to not freaking use it. Oh well though, I guess I'll just be a sense guy until (or if) HTC stops bring stingy with the 3D source. Thanks anyway dudes...
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I'm running Senseless by scrosler and the 3D camera works just fine. No problem at all. And as the name states, there is no Sense.
Petition ?
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Petititon What exactly???
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Petition ?
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I'm running Senseless by scrosler and the 3D camera works just fine. No problem at all. And as the name states, there is no Sense.
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I can confirm this....I'm on senseless rom too and 3d camera works just fine.
another +1 for senseless, but i switched back to cleanrom myself
Senseless is still a Sense based ROM, it just has Rosie and HTC Widgets removed. OP is probably wondering about getting 3d working on actual AOSP, which won't happen for a very long time, if ever.
you can get pretty close to an AOSP experience with a Sense Rom if you are not afraid to remove apps. my wife and I are both running SteelRom 2.62, but our phones look very different. I took out almost everything made by HTC and have the barebones for Sense-only stuff to work, like the 3D camera
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you can get pretty close to an AOSP experience with a Sense Rom if you are not afraid to remove apps. my wife and I are both running SteelRom 2.62, but our phones look very different. I took out almost everything made by HTC and have the barebones for Sense-only stuff to work, like the 3D camera
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So what apps can I remove without screwing up my phone?
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Petition +2 cause of you ,if you knew what to do or what is true , get a clue then catch a flu , forever just seems too new , me and u we just like glue
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Can I build ICS on top of a sense ROM and just play with the framework a little to make it work?
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I would think more port sense to ics
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I'm new to the EVO 3d. Does anyone know if there's a possibility the phone will be updated to sense 3.5 and have beats audio out of the box. Crazy question but I'm just curious.
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Hope not. Sense 3.5 sucks in the roms I have tried
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I'm new to the EVO 3d. Does anyone know if there's a possibility the phone will be updated to sense 3.5 and have beats audio out of the box. Crazy question but I'm just curious.
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Only information I've seen was HTC and Sprint both announce the EVO 3D should receive the update to ICS (Android 4.0) early next year ... they both tweeted and the HTC page went to their facebook post. Sprint link went to their community forum.
Hope that helps!
wcr84 said:
I'm new to the EVO 3d. Does anyone know if there's a possibility the phone will be updated to sense 3.5 and have beats audio out of the box. Crazy question but I'm just curious.
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You can already do it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285109
Ice Cream makes me poop. I'm going to hold out for the peanut butter & jelly sandwich release. lol
Sense 3.5 doesn't suck at all if you use WTSB HYDRO ROM THE BEST AROUND.
Evo 3D in full Affect with WTSB HYDRO SENSE 3.5
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Sense 3.5 doesn't suck at all if you use WTSB HYDRO ROM THE BEST AROUND.
Evo 3D in full Affect with WTSB HYDRO SENSE 3.5
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I may try that ROM. Heard good things about it
OP, I'm 100% sure the Evo 3D will never receive beats out of the box, but honestly beats sucks, use DSP.
As for Sense 3.5, maybe we'll see that when we get ICS, but until then, you can get Sense 3.5 on some custom roms.
I have a CDMA EVO 3D and was poking around in the GSM Dev. forums and saw they have a functional working Sense 4.0 with Android 4.0.3 for daily use, phone and data and camera all working, and was wondering what makes the GSM version so different that the CDMA version only has a test build with no data/voice/web working
There is no gsm ics ROM with camera working.
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There is no gsm ics ROM with camera working.
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This.every gsm ics rom has some problems
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1513054
This is the thread i mentioned, it's not comepletley stable but at the end of the day it's still sutable for daily use with a lot more working features than
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1513961
which barely has call and sms working
i'm just wondering how the dev process differs from both phones that no ones working together to have both types of the same phone up to speed with eachother
AOS 4.0.3 should be a top priority in my opinion, but im just impatient like that hahah, but yeah i just really hope something happens soon, this sense 4.0 looks so amazing, i really dig it
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1513054
This is the thread i mentioned, it's not comepletley stable but at the end of the day it's still sutable for daily use with a lot more working features than
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1513961
which barely has call and sms working
i'm just wondering how the dev process differs from both phones that no ones working together to have both types of the same phone up to speed with eachother
AOS 4.0.3 should be a top priority in my opinion, but im just impatient like that hahah, but yeah i just really hope something happens soon, this sense 4.0 looks so amazing, i really dig it
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The virtuous ROM, while great, doesn't support key features for most people (camera, USB connection, wi-fi tethering etc), but is pretty stable if you don't need that. As for working together that would be nice, cdma users have some very nice roms that will never see the light of day on gsm (this include meanrom and Android Revolution HD).
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Nabaricoder91 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1513054
This is the thread i mentioned, it's not comepletley stable but at the end of the day it's still sutable for daily use with a lot more working features than
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1513961
which barely has call and sms working
i'm just wondering how the dev process differs from both phones that no ones working together to have both types of the same phone up to speed with eachother
AOS 4.0.3 should be a top priority in my opinion, but im just impatient like that hahah, but yeah i just really hope something happens soon, this sense 4.0 looks so amazing, i really dig it
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"TOP PRIORITY" really. I am not trying to be a **** but that statement makes it sound like you feel you are entitled to a completely working ICS rom.
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"TOP PRIORITY" really. I am not trying to be a **** but that statement makes it sound like you feel you are entitled to a completely working ICS rom.
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i didn't mean it like that, i mean there is still a lot the developers can do with gingerbread and are doing, the work they have done so far is damn near amazing, i didn't mean to make it seem as if it's all for not, i just really like what htc has done sense in 4.0, more than this, and i'm not just sitting around waiting for them to do all the work so i can reap the benifits, i've been looking into cooking roms and at the dev work that's been going into the ICS roms so i can try and do my own part on this, i would love to contribute to the progression of ICS and Sense 4.0, so again, i'm sorry if i came off kinda douchbaggish
On our EVO 3d? I mean like it looks awesome. It would be cool.
You could try out the sense 4 rom
Just try ICS cusrom with sense 4.0 or wait for the official. Even the inferior One V could run it, Evo 3D must be capable of it, too.
hellianowned said:
Just try ICS cusrom with sense 4.0 or wait for the official. Even the inferior One V could run it, Evo 3D must be capable of it, too.
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The 3d isn't getting sense 4.0
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hellianowned said:
Just try ICS cusrom with sense 4.0 or wait for the official. Even the inferior One V could run it, Evo 3D must be capable of it, too.
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It's not about the specs [ie, ram, processor etc]. HTC have stated that all the HTC phones barring the One series don't have certain hardware components that is needed for Sense 4.0. Like the new Camera.
EDIT: I actually might be wrong check my post under the next 2
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It's not about the specs [ie, ram, processor etc]. HTC have stated that all the HTC phones barring the One series don't have certain hardware components that is needed for Sense 4.0. Like the new Camera.
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Camera works on sense 4 rom
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Camera works on sense 4 rom
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Yes but it doesnt have ZSL and all those other sense 4.0 goodies.
This isnt a debate. You will not be getting Sense 4.0 Officially. So either go flash up a unoficial Rom or just stop posting.
Hey guys, the decision to not update Sense 3.x phones to Sense 4.0 isn't related to technology; it's a business decision. HTC has to weigh the costs and benefits
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Hey guys, the decision to not update Sense 3.x phones to Sense 4.0 isn't related to technology; it's a business decision. HTC has to weigh the costs and benefits
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it is hardware related too.....something called ImageSense is related to hardware components that are new to the entire one series...including the 'weakling' one V.
We will see sense 4.0 custom ROM with all the bells and whistles we want, once we get all the sources for ICS released. Its just a matter of time and these android updates are dragging it all the way.
As the title ask's, do you think it'll ever work?
I don't know if anyone is actively working on 3D for sense 4 but for me it's the only thing missing.
If our phones weren't 3D then we'd already have our daily rom, problem is, we do have 3D phones.
Any ideas or news about progress anywhere?
Thanks.
PS: I know MDeejay has had some success with 3D gallery and some youtube.
But i haven't heard much from the cam side of things.
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who needs the 3d feature anyway! its pointless and it sucks!!! i love my evo 3d just for the dual core and the rom great developments! other than that i would still be on evo 4G! #sense 4.0 don't 3d feature!!!
Dladz to answer your question, I personally think it's possible. Album for sure, we can port the original sense 3.6 album because It's the same android base(and then theme it like sense 4). Camera is a bit more difficult, because we want the Sense 4 Camera layout. So somebody has to rewrite the whole camera stuff for getting a 3D mode. Unfortunately people like Igor who really knew how to do it are no more in the forum. So the only hope we have is that some guys like mdeejay take their time and get the things working. But It's definitely not impossible, It's more a question of effort.
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Thanks m8, that does help.
So where did this Igor chap get off to? Can we kidnap him and make him do it lol.
That was a joke m8.
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As I know there will ne a update to ICS for evo 3d soon. And ai prety sure that it will be on sense 4.0 because some leak rom out there base on same firmwave with sense 4.0 . But not 100% sure .
Other think that ics camera have mutilshot. For evo 3d because of saving on sd card so, so the speed could not be fasr like htc one x ( it save on the phone store ). So what happen with 3d mutilshot. . It must be really slow.
As my opinion, the developer can do anything on the decive,. If htc give them source. Sometime, they even do not need any help to do like the htc hd2 case. It can use dual os by tricking the device start with android in sd card. It was legend.
monkboy24 said:
who needs the 3d feature anyway! its pointless and it sucks!!! i love my evo 3d just for the dual core and the rom great developments! other than that i would still be on evo 4G! #sense 4.0 don't 3d feature!!!
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Doesn't help, didn't answer anything, your opinion is not what i asked for, this is not a discussion thread.
lionhealth said:
As I know there will ne a update to ICS for evo 3d soon. And ai prety sure that it will be on sense 4.0 because some leak rom out there base on same firmwave with sense 4.0 . But not 100% sure .
Other think that ics camera have mutilshot. For evo 3d because of saving on sd card so, so the speed could not be fasr like htc one x ( it save on the phone store ). So what happen with 3d mutilshot. . It must be really slow.
As my opinion, the developer can do anything on the decive,. If htc give them source. Sometime, they even do not need any help to do like the htc hd2 case. It can use dual os by tricking the device start with android in sd card. It was legend.
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I know there will be an update for the EVO 3D but it won't include sense 4 to my knowledge, we will only get sense 3.6, which is where the problem lies, moving 3D over to sense 4 has proven to be a bit of a problem.
As for multishot, it's a feature of the software and not really something which i think i'd use anyway.
Zoom camera has a burst feature which works just fine by the way, so if you wanted to use burst then download zoom.
Thanks.
monkboy24 said:
who needs the 3d feature anyway! its pointless and it sucks!!! i love my evo 3d just for the dual core and the rom great developments! other than that i would still be on evo 4G! #sense 4.0 don't 3d feature!!!
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3D movies are good.
I read somewhere, that HTC will not public surce codes for camera.
That's maybe the biggest problem...
Well I know Agrabren has a working camera on his personal build of Cm9. This will eventually work it's way into Digital High's MIUI port. But it still has a way to go and he is not ready to release anything. So that being said, I am sure DEV's will get it worked in eventually. Have faith.
Well i think mwakious probably has the skills to work on camera. i am not sure but have been using his ROMs(Sense 3.6) nd he keeps fiddling with the camera so am pretty sure he has some knowledge. i was willing to ask him to work on a sense 4 ROM but m new here. Although i have been rooting and using custom ROMs for quite some time now and just wanted to thank all the devs so i thought i shud join xda too. I am using mwakious3drom v8.1 and love his work. unfortunately its very sad to know what mwakious and other italians are going through these days. m sure if mwakious has the time to look into a sense 4 ROM he will succeed. Any one of you who can reach him do give it a shot i am new here so i cant post on his thread.
Yea there's definitely some talent on XDA, enough to fix 3D.
I guess we'll just see, I have faith in the dev's, i'm just an impatient sod and wanted to know if someone knew something that i didn't.
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3D movies are good.
I read somewhere, that HTC will not public surce codes for camera.
That's maybe the biggest problem...
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Yes they are I've got Avatar on my phone and although that it won't work on virtuous (sense 4) it did work perfectly on 3.6 roms.
It's a great feature to have and i have no idea why anyone would buy an EVO 3D for any other reason, yea it's got a slightly faster processor than the sensation and a little bit more ram but in all honesty the sensation hold's it's own in every department, including 2D pictures which are amazing.
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Yes they are I've got Avatar on my phone and although that it won't work on virtuous (sense 4) it did work perfectly on 3.6 roms.
It's a great feature to have and i have no idea why anyone would buy an EVO 3D for any other reason, yea it's got a slightly faster processor than the sensation and a little bit more ram but in all honesty the sensation hold's it's own in every department, including 2D pictures which are amazing.
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Germany in january ... EVO 3d : 270€ Sensation : 430 . Ive got another reason
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