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Sign it here:
http://www.change.org/petitions/htc...-of-htc-devices-the-new-sense-4-0-experience#
Petition system never worked.-
http://androidcommunity.com/htc-says-gingerbread-will-come-to-desire-after-all-20110615/
Its totally different to abuse htc's social networks, from making a petition that noone cares. Not even htc.
It won't happen. It's too late in their development process to make sense 4.0 for our devices. There probably already finished with 3.6 they are just waiting for final confirmation and allowance from carriers to push it. Although I'm not sure lol
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I'd rather have sense 3.6 sorry. We don't have the hardware to run 4.0 completely.
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I'd rather have sense 3.6 sorry. We don't have the hardware to run 4.0 completely.
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lol.
Please take a look at the specs of the One V.
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I'd rather have sense 3.6 sorry. We don't have the hardware to run 4.0 completely.
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Hardware exactly. Sense 3.6 isn't so bad.
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lol.
Please take a look at the specs of the One V.
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One V is getting sense 3.6 as well
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Royalfox said:
One V is getting sense 3.6 as well
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Go to the official HTC site and take a look at the specs of the One V
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One V is getting sense 3.6 as well
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It well have sense 4.0 ;
http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-one-v/#specs
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I mean our cameras can't do imagesense. Why would htc use 4.0 on our phones then? I could care less about imagesense but I'm sure htc does.
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I mean our cameras can't do imagesense. Why would htc use 4.0 on our phones then? I could care less about imagesense but I'm sure htc does.
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Evidently according to Mike in the Sensation forum they are going to be rolling out Sense4.0 to the Sensation in the next build and that they should see Beta RUU's leaking out n the near future...
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HTC said that the new image processor is an important part of sense 4.0. So yeah that spec is something our phones don't have. How true that noone will know unless HTC gave us the Sense 4.0 source code.
They said first to that HTC Desire HD wouldnt get Sense 3.0 and it still got it. So who knows we will get Sense 4.0 official to.
We will see then. But I don't worry about an small think like that as there is already an sense 4.0 rom and I'm sure as soon we have official ICS for our device that the devs will make an fully functional sense 4.0 rom.
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HTC said that the new image processor is an important part of sense 4.0. So yeah that spec is something our phones don't have. How true that noone will know unless HTC gave us the Sense 4.0 source code.
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Important part lol..
They rebuild Sense 4.0 from the ground up! It's based on Sense 2.1 iirc, which is the best Sense version imho. The image crap they put in is nice, but it's more a brand thing.. like "Wow HTC has a dedicated Image Processor for better quality!". You can compare it to the Beats integration, it's cool to have it, but it doesn't add a whole lot to the overall experience.
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Important part lol..
They rebuild Sense 4.0 from the ground up! It's based on Sense 2.1 iirc, which is the best Sense version imho. The image crap they put in is nice, but it's more a brand thing.. like "Wow HTC has a dedicated Image Processor for better quality!". You can compare it to the Beats integration, it's cool to have it, but it doesn't add a whole lot to the overall experience.
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So you've seen the code and see it's based on sense 2.1? It may look similar but we don't know what's under the hood yet.
I'm sure the bigger reason is they don't want to spend the money to rewrite the code for older phones, or the carriers don't want to split the bill for that work. Plus the non-vocal majority of people who own these phones will be quite upset if their phone UI is changed to something they're not used to. It's similar to Apple not giving you Siri on an Iphone 4 vs 4s. We all know that work is server side so it's not the processor, it's the fact that Apple wants you to buy a 4s vs a 4.
Does it suck, sure, but I can see the reasons on their end they went with sense 3.6 instead. Atleast we're getting ICS and an updated sense.
Better question is what does 4.0 offer that 3.6 does not...exactly.
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Its true Sense 4.0 is much different from Sense 3.0. And be honest I think its an big change. So I can understand if they not include Sense 4.0 in the updates for HTC Evo 3D and HTC Sensation.
Was just wondering, once HTC finally update our devices to ICS, will developers be able to port over a fully working and bug free sense 4.0 or will there still be problems with the camera, etc?
Sense 4.0 looks to be a fair bit faster than 3.6 so hopefully developers will have all they need to port it properly.
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Bug free? Probably not but they will be close to bug free.
I love sense 4 so hopefully it'll all be sorted but i'm not sure due to the camera problems which have plagued this phone.
I really didn't see these problems coming before i bought it, research is going to be top of the pops for me next time i upgrade.
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Was just wondering, once HTC finally update our devices to ICS, will developers be able to port over a fully working and bug free sense 4.0 or will there still be problems with the camera, etc?
Sense 4.0 looks to be a fair bit faster than 3.6 so hopefully developers will have all they need to port it properly.
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I am 100% certain that yes, they will indeed be able to create a fully functioning, 100% bug free Sense 4.0 ROM for our EVO 3D's. The only problems now on the Virtuous Sense 4.0 ROM are Camera and Bluetooth, both of which will be incredibly easy to port over for the talented Virtuous team once an official ICS build for EVO 3D is leaked/released by HTC. I kid you not, if you don't need to use the camera or a bluetooth headset, that ROM is perfect as a Sense 4.0 daily driver.
Patience my friend, it will come
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I am 100% certain that yes, they will indeed be able to create a fully functioning, 100% bug free Sense 4.0 ROM for our EVO 3D's. The only problems now on the Virtuous Sense 4.0 ROM are Camera and Bluetooth, both of which will be incredibly easy to port over for the talented Virtuous team once an official ICS build for EVO 3D is leaked/released by HTC. I kid you not, if you don't need to use the camera or a bluetooth headset, that ROM is perfect as a Sense 4.0 daily driver.
Patience my friend, it will come
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Awesome.. That was the only thing I was unsure about (whether the ICS drivers we'll get well work fully with sense 4)
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I am 100% certain that yes, they will indeed be able to create a fully functioning, 100% bug free Sense 4.0 ROM for our EVO 3D's. The only problems now on the Virtuous Sense 4.0 ROM are Camera and Bluetooth, both of which will be incredibly easy to port over for the talented Virtuous team once an official ICS build for EVO 3D is leaked/released by HTC. I kid you not, if you don't need to use the camera or a bluetooth headset, that ROM is perfect as a Sense 4.0 daily driver.
Patience my friend, it will come
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That's a gsm only rom though correct?
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That's a gsm only romantic though correct?
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Yep...we probably won't see 4g working on the sprint cdma side.
Yea seeing the only official sense 4.0 phone for sprint is an LTE phone, I doubt we will ever see WiMax on a Sense 4.0 ROM.
I would be thrilled if their was, but no need to get hopes up
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That's a gsm only rom though correct?
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Yup .
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Hi, I just wonder how long it takes to port sense 4.0 to android 4.0 after android 4.0 released oficially for evo 3d. As we know ics update will come to evo 3d gsm with sense 3.6. But i like sense 4.0 more than 3.6...
Now i don't want to port ics roms because they don't support 3D and some minor things...
It's very much a science. Lots of research, development and a ton of trial and error goes into it.
An estimate is tough
I would say it's in the ballpark of 1 to 60 days though.
myn said:
It's very much a science. Lots of research, development and a ton of trial and error goes into it.
An estimate is tough
I would say it's in the ballpark of 1 to 60 days though.
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It seems to easy to us but i know developers work for hours, days and weeks... Virtuous team started to port sense 4.0 to htc one's android 4.0. It is really bad to wait oficial ics; and it is worse to wait sense 4.0 with ics than waiting oficial ics
Given that HTC have access to android source, sense source, and drivers for the kernel they should be able to get a working rom in a week or less. Sense only slows down the release of updates as they then have to go and debug the problems sense caused.
/edit They = HTC, They have no reason to update a phone once released thus will put it on the back burner and and take as long as they want to release stuff like android 4.0 because people will buy a new phone.
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Given that they have access to android source, sense source, and drivers for the kernel they should be able to get a working rom in a week or less. Sense only slows down the release of updates as they then have to go and debug the problems sense caused.
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Who are you talking about? If i understood corectly what you said, sense 4.0 based ics rom will be ready in a few days... Do you mean this? If yes, will 3d work on that rom? I really suprised to hear what you said
They = HTC
That said, I doubt HTC really gives a **** about updating an already released phone, it does nothing for them as they can just release a new phone and people will buy that.
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They = HTC
That said, I doubt HTC really gives a **** about updating an already released phone, it does nothing for them as they can just release a new phone and people will buy that.
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Keeping current customers happy brings in new customers..
Example of not doing so, RIM
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Nanan00 said:
Given that HTC have access to android source, sense source, and drivers for the kernel they should be able to get a working rom in a week or less. Sense only slows down the release of updates as they then have to go and debug the problems sense caused.
/edit They = HTC, They have no reason to update a phone once released thus will put it on the back burner and and take as long as they want to release stuff like android 4.0 because people will buy a new phone.
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I'm wondering when will people stop believing this myth. Sure, Sense might add a short additional time to the development, but rewriting source code, that was build for completely different device is what is taking most of the development time. Not to mention to properly implement new drivers.
Can you stop with that custom UI delay bull****, will ya?
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ktrotter11 said:
Keeping current customers happy brings in new customers..
Example of not doing so, RIM
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Totally agree.. Samsung fixes issues by releasing a new phone.. my opinion is that Samsung wastes too much resources doing so and they still have issues cuz they don't take their time on handsets
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Terepin said:
I'm wondering when will people stop believing this myth. Sure, Sense might add a short additional time to the development, but rewriting source code, that was build for completely different device is what is taking most of the development time. Not to mention to properly implement new drivers.
Can you stop with that custom UI delay bull****, will ya?
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Sure, as soon as HTC stops using it as the reason when asked.
most of the bugs will probably be worked out on the Sensation anyway
so just the camera and graphics stuff to work on
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most of the bugs will probably be worked out on the Sensation anyway
so just the camera and graphics stuff to work on
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"just camera"!? Have you noticed the hard times with the aosp, miui and ics roms!? Lulz
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Will getting the official ICS help much with getting the camera to work on Sense 4.0?
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Will getting the official ICS help much with getting the camera to work on Sense 4.0?
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Probably but there's no guaranty. Best option I can think of right now is maybe including sense 3.6 camera and gallery to sense 4.0 ports. To be honest, noone can know for sure because ICS for E3D hasn't been released yet so it's foolish to speculate anyway.
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Will getting the official ICS help much with getting the camera to work on Sense 4.0?
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Yes it will.
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so all we can do is wait for the android4.0 sense3.6...
I hope I can use a sense4.0 with camera on my evo 3d
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so all we can do is wait for the android4.0 sense3.6...
I hope I can use a sense4.0 with camera on my evo 3d
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I dunno what makes camera work. Android or sense? If the answer is android, we should have a working camera when ics for shooter released. If it is sense, maybe htc one's sense codes aren't fully suitable with evo 3d so it will take more time to have working camera with ics with sense 4
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Just wanted to tell those who may be reluctant to try a different rom, its worth the work.
I can't wait to try it on the evo lte. Ill be finally free from touchwiz Never again....
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Just wanted to tell those who may be reluctant to try a different rom, its worth the work.
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yeah i agree newt has truly done an incredible job with this as he always does
agree
Sense 4.0 finally looks live a Launcher
I said the same thing when I finally got ics on my touchpad...on a tablet at least, it is very user friendly, and make for a fun exerience! as far as my evo 3d goes, im just gonna wait a few weeks till we get the official update.... I figure it has to happen really soon, because I am not sure when virgin is releasing their evo3d, but boost is releasing their evo design on the 31st, and their website says it will have 4.0.... There is no way in hell a boost or virgin HTC phone will get ics before sprint ones do
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Sense 4.0 finally looks live a Launcher
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I love it. If you're rooted try out myn's RLS2, it really is nice and smooth.
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I love it. If you're rooted try out myn's RLS2, it really is nice and smooth.
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I was running it today and it was pretty good, I'm looking forward to warm four dot zero. 3.6 has amazing battery life and sense 4 has fluidity and a new taste. I'm not a fan of 3.0 with ics, but that battery life is amazing. I got about 10 hours before I got to 10% and I'm a pretty heavy user (a lot of Facebook and Voxer over 3g). Usually my phone would last 8 or 7 hours before it died.
yeah but you will never be free of sense... i'm getting the nexus **** htc, motorola, and any other piece of **** manufacturer out there. although samsung makes the nexus... which is weird since google owns motorola mobility.. ahh i don't understand! Lol
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yeah but you will never be free of sense... i'm getting the nexus **** htc, motorola, and any other piece of **** manufacturer out there. although samsung makes the nexus... which is weird since google owns motorola mobility.. ahh i don't understand! Lol
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they are just playing fair with other manufacturers - otherwise moto would make all nexus's and samsung/htc/lg/etc. would all moan about it
Ics hit like the new coke on the street cause the evo ed forums jumpin again lol
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I'm not using a Sense 4.0 ROM (using CleanROM atm), but you are right -- it's like a whole new phone with ICS. I was considering upgrading to a different phone just out of sheer phone boredom, but this ICS has shown me the 3D is still viable for a lot longer.
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yeah but you will never be free of sense... i'm getting the nexus **** htc, motorola, and any other piece of **** manufacturer out there. although samsung makes the nexus... which is weird since google owns motorola mobility.. ahh i don't understand! Lol
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The Nexus is ok at best, I've tried it and can honestly say that the SII, 3D, and even Note feel more comfortable for usability. Sure, the stock ICS is fluid and is designed around the capabilities of the Nexus, but in the end, you're still playing with a black banana phone with a goofy curved screen.
Sense 4.0 is a huge change over 3.6. If you haven't tried newts Rom do it. 3d and 4g aren't working but you really won't miss them. Although I am surprised that no one has ported the EVO 4g LTE Rom to our device yet. It would be nice to have a full cmda sense 4.0 Rom.
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nandroide said:
yeah but you will never be free of sense... i'm getting the nexus **** htc, motorola, and any other piece of **** manufacturer out there. although samsung makes the nexus... which is weird since google owns motorola mobility.. ahh i don't understand! Lol
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I think it's pretty simple to be free from Sense if that's your preference... get a different phone and stop complaining.
Most people that buy HTC do so because they like Sense UI, above all other factory UI variations... Sense 4 is the best one yet. TouchWiz, MotoBlur, and everything else don't even compare.
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Sense 4.0 is a huge change over 3.6. If you haven't tried newts Rom do it. 3d and 4g aren't working but you really won't miss them. Although I am surprised that no one has ported the EVO 4g LTE Rom to our device yet. It would be nice to have a full cmda sense 4.0 Rom.
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Totally agree newt one s was pure sexy. Loved it but had to go back to 3.6 because I need my bluetooth talk driving company vehicle. Can't wait till the 4g lte Roms hit. Sense 3.6 is a nice improvement from our 3.0 but 4.0 is superb.
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Once ICS comes out officially, what do you guys think the chances are of having a fully functional ICS Sense 4.0 rom? I'm new to HTC and Sense and aren't really sure how complicated it would be to port it to the EVO 3D.
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Once ICS comes out officially, what do you guys think the chances are of having a fully functional ICS Sense 4.0 rom? I'm new to HTC and Sense and aren't really sure how complicated it would be to port it to the EVO 3D.
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There already is one.
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Once ICS comes out officially, what do you guys think the chances are of having a fully functional ICS Sense 4.0 rom? I'm new to HTC and Sense and aren't really sure how complicated it would be to port it to the EVO 3D.
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I'd say the chances are very good... like 99% chance that there will be a Sense 4.0 ROM that has everything working.
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There already is one.
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No there isn't!
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tyler.durden said:
I think it's pretty simple to be free from Sense if that's your preference... get a different phone and stop complaining.
Most people that buy HTC do so because they like Sense UI, above all other factory UI variations... Sense 4 is the best one yet. TouchWiz, MotoBlur, and everything else don't even compare.
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Not true at all. Opinions are not facts. He felt I'll show you, "most people who buy htc phones do so for the hardware specs, they don't even like sense or know what it is"
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i just saw a news said that one series will gets a new sense version
and it's much faster than before and quick settings added by htc so will we gets that?
Officially, never in a million years.
We got Sense 3.6 with our official ICS update, while other devices got Sense 4.0.
So when we didn't even get Sense 4.0, we won't get an even newer version than that.
Unofficially, then absolutely 100% sure that we'll get some form of newer versions of Sense should it be released.
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i just saw a news said that one series will gets a new sense version
and it's much faster than before and quick settings added by htc so will we gets that?
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Most likely no. Never from HTC or Sprint. We may get a port but I seriously doubt any real development will be done.
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Most likely no. Never from HTC or Sprint. We may get a port but I seriously doubt any real development will be done.
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I agree.
All Sense 4.0 ROMs still have major bugs.
HTC didn't release it for our phones with the ICS upgrade, so they won't release 4.1.
And, the development by devs on this forum is unlikely, since, like I said, Sense 4.0 ROMs still have major bugs, which means Sense 4.1 will only create more.
Not from Sprint
I agree, Sprint is not going to help us out. They were slow enough to roll out the office ICS update for us. And I haven't seen any evidence that HTC is planning this either.
I contacted HTC and they said that they are trying to get JB on as many devices as possible, may be a possibility, they don't have enough new devices to fit the title "as many devices as possible"... The one series has what, 3 phones.?
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Well there IS a working,fully functional Sense 4 Rom.....
http://www.androidfilehost.com/main/EVO_3D_Developers/Virus/Team_Venom/Viper3D/Nightly/
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Officially, never in a million years.
We got Sense 3.6 with our official ICS update, while other devices got Sense 4.0.
So when we didn't even get Sense 4.0, we won't get an even newer version than that.
Unofficially, then absolutely 100% sure that we'll get some form of newer versions of Sense should it be released.
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hope unofficial can be faster or fix more bugs
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Well there IS a working,fully functional Sense 4 Rom.....
http://www.androidfilehost.com/main/EVO_3D_Developers/Virus/Team_Venom/Viper3D/Nightly/
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Not GSM? when GSM can get a fully functions' Sense 4.0 rom...
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I contacted HTC and they said that they are trying to get JB on as many devices as possible, may be a possibility, they don't have enough new devices to fit the title "as many devices as possible"... The one series has what, 3 phones.?
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yep,only three phones now...
and i contacted htc too but no any reply form htc....hell
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i just saw a news said that one series will gets a new sense version
and it's much faster than before and quick settings added by htc so will we gets that?
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officially not! But handymen can attach, let and with not working camera: D
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I contacted HTC and they said that they are trying to get JB on as many devices as possible, may be a possibility, they don't have enough new devices to fit the title "as many devices as possible"... The one series has what, 3 phones.?
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Its not that they don't have enough devices its that they don't want to make empty promises like with that Desire HD scandal.
They just want to test Jelly Bean thoroughly so they are sure the device will get better with new software.
As for the OP question nope not in a million years i even doubt we will get Jelly Bean even thought HTC is the best with the updates on the market but i think they won't bother to get us latest Android and beside Google Now has been ported to us and im already using it so now all i need is expendable notifications and then im all set.
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i just saw a news said that one series will gets a new sense version
and it's much faster than before and quick settings added by htc so will we gets that?
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I think its updated for Jellybean and a bug free sense 4 is taking time so 4.1 doesn't appear in the proximity
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Well there IS a working,fully functional Sense 4 Rom.....
http://www.androidfilehost.com/main/EVO_3D_Developers/Virus/Team_Venom/Viper3D/Nightly/
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Yeah, pretty much we'll have to rely on the community. Choosing to push ICS with 3.6 pretty much means 4.0 ain't happening.
I'd say even with JB, we'd be on 3.6
got a screenshot in chinese forum
the rom is for one x,sorry,not for us,but you can see the sense version is 4.1
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got a screenshot in chinese forum
the rom is for one x,sorry,not for us,but you can see the sense version is 4.1
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Where did u find that Rom.? Link.?
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Not GSM? when GSM can get a fully functions' Sense 4.0 rom...
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I thought that Rom was multi for both gsm and cdma
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I thought that Rom was multi for both gsm and cdma
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hope so,but rom maker posted a reply said that he just stopped the sense 4.0 develop and going to 4.1,so we may not to get a perfect sense 4.1 rom
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Where did u find that Rom.? Link.?
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tht rom is for one x,i just posted a screenshot to show the sense version , sorry bro
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hope so,but rom maker posted a reply said that he just stopped the sense 4.0 develop and going to 4.1,so we may not to get a perfect sense 4.1 rom
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Yes, development on sense 4.1 for evo gsm, but don't hold your breath.
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