So...
I have the leaked Ruu installed.
New Radio's.
Running Scott's Senseless Rom.
What does this mean for the ICS OTA that "SUPPOSED" to come out today? Will I not be able to do it, will I have to relock before I'm eligible, will I be able to unlock again afterwards...
CAN SOMEBODY SPELL ALL THIS OUT FOR ME AND THE OTHER CONFUSED FOLKS?
It could just be a Rom flash or might need to relock and run a ruu...it depends on what changes and we won't know until the ota is out. And I doubt the ota is coming soon.
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I'm 99% sure that those of us on the leak are out of the OTA business. We'll have to wait for either a dev to put together a flashable package, or the OTA's RUU to come out (last time it was out within a couple days).
And just to cause you concern (I'm not, but some people are), if the OTA has a lower HBOOT version, then we won't be able to take the forthcoming RUU either without S-off. Isn't that some piss in your cheerios? But that's not likely to happen... hopefully.
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I'm 99% sure that those of us on the leak are out of the OTA business. We'll have to wait for either a dev to put together a flashable package, or the OTA's RUU to come out (last time it was out within a couple days).
And just to cause you concern (I'm not, but some people are), if the OTA has a lower HBOOT version, then we won't be able to take the forthcoming RUU either without S-off. Isn't that some piss in your cheerios? But that's not likely to happen... hopefully.
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WELL THANKS FOR FREAKING ME THE HELL OUT!!!!! ROFL Ahh well, I can't see me running a stock rom anyway, was just curious about the OTA.
SENSELESS 4 LIFE!!!!!
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I know that the Evo 3D is planned to soon be rooted by AlphaRev. If I take the OTA will I still be able to get S-Off when the root meatod is released?
Take OTA or no?
I wouldn't, I'm still rockin the release day version. I'm sure when rom's are rolling out they will include all the updates and then some.
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I know that the Evo 3D is planned to soon be rooted by AlphaRev. If I take the OTA will I still be able to get S-Off when the root meatod is released?
Take OTA or no?
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Alpharev hasn't yet announced which hboots it will work with, but they did say it should work across a number of them. Personally, I would hold off on any OTA until you get full root, just to be safe. It would suck to take the ota and then find out that the method is only for the 1.30 hboot.
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Simple answer. No.
If you want to root, NEVER take an OTA. This is rule #1
If you never plan on rooting, you should take the OTA.
I thought I saw somewhere that alparev or unrevoked said that they can s-off all available hboots for the time being
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I thought I saw somewhere that alparev or unrevoked said that they can s-off all available hboots for the time being
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Yep I read that too...
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I thought I saw somewhere that alparev or unrevoked said that they can s-off all available hboots for the time being
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Yes, they did announce that the tool they're developing should work across a bunch of different hboots, however they didn't specify which ones. I like to play things safe, so therefore I still say no OTA's. I am very anti-OTA. Soon enough there will be full root and it won't matter anyways.
Don't worry, the latest OTA (for now) using HBOOT 1.40 has been tested sucessfully.
So this works.
1.13.651.7 is (as I understand it), the latest OTA, and works fine.
Yeah, it's best just to play it safe and never OTA unless it fixes a bug that is absolutely critical. I've never taken one, never will. The phone runs just fine.
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Don't worry, the latest OTA (for now) using HBOOT 1.40 has been tested sucessfully.
So this works.
1.13.651.7 is (as I understand it), the latest OTA, and works fine.
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Well, there you all have it. Right from the horses mouth. Taking the current OTA is safe. So go ahead and take the OTA if you feel the need to do so.
No OTA's ever!!!!
As the title states, I'm just curious what I need to have done to be ready for the OTA update.
Currently I'm on the ICS leaked firmware, running CleanROM 4.3. Do I need to S-Off?
I would just wait until it gets incorporated into CleanRom after the official version comes out.
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I would think you would need to s-off so you could RUU back to gingerbread. Then you could receive an update.
You don't do anything. Let our great devs update their coding based off OTA. It's usually a good idea to not take OTAs right away. Never know what kind of hidden security patches may be included. I would hold off until you hear some news pertaining to what the update provides and if it's safe to flash.
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I'm with the original poster. I would like to know if there is step by step instructions on how to unroot my phone if I need to to get the update. Or would just relocking be enough to get it? I'm currently on cleanrom de 1.2. Also, are we supposed to get sense 4.0 or 3.6 with this, or does anybody know?
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slosrtnick said:
I'm with the original poster. I would like to know if there is step by step instructions on how to unroot my phone if I need to to get the update. Or would just relocking be enough to get it? I'm currently on cleanrom de 1.2. Also, are we supposed to get sense 4.0 or 3.6 with this, or does anybody know?
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Sense 4 won't be coming to the Rezound officially. It will be 3.6
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I second this!
slosrtnick said:
I'm with the original poster. I would like to know if there is step by step instructions on how to unroot my phone if I need to to get the update. Or would just relocking be enough to get it? I'm currently on cleanrom de 1.2. Also, are we supposed to get sense 4.0 or 3.6 with this, or does anybody know?
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luis86dr said:
You don't do anything. Let our great devs update their coding based off OTA. It's usually a good idea to not take OTAs right away. Never know what kind of hidden security patches may be included. I would hold off until you hear some news pertaining to what the update provides and if it's safe to flash.
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I agree and wouldn't sweat it at all. Once it becomes official the devs will do what they do and we'll have plenty of options for the upgrade.
to actually answer the question that was asked, the easiest way is to just flash the leaked or stock RUU if that's what you want. you won't lose s-off, and you'll be updated like anyone else. You won't be root, of course, since it's a stock ruu. you'll still be able to flash a non stock rom later, load amon-ra, etc.
there may be a rooted stock rom out there that i don't know about that will do the same for you. i've not dug too heavily into the stock rom scene, since i prefer a rom with a lot of features.
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to actually answer the question that was asked, the easiest way is to just flash the leaked or stock RUU if that's what you want. you won't lose s-off, and you'll be updated like anyone else. You won't be root, of course, since it's a stock ruu. you'll still be able to flash a non stock rom later, load amon-ra, etc.
there may be a rooted stock rom out there that i don't know about that will do the same for you. i've not dug too heavily into the stock rom scene, since i prefer a rom with a lot of features.
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The only thing I would do for now is to S-Off just in case this new update makes it impossible to S-Off after updating the system. As others have said you should wait until after Devs have time to play around with the OTA and incorporate it into ROMs before going ahead and flashing it.
S-off first, then just run the most current official gb ruu and don't unlock it or change recovery until after you have the ota update. I will personally wait for the official ics ruu (probably from football) and then run that and start from scratch.
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so i'm on CleanRom 4.3 standard, unlocked and rooted, s-on, stock firmware.
can you get s-off from here?
this root/unlock buisness is cray maybe I need to give up..
I kinda want to be ready for the ICS OTA but I guess I might as well wait for CleanROM to be updated. But then am I going to need s-off at all ever?
what do
Since you didn't do the Leak, You don't need S-OFF. if you don't want it.
Just wait until the Dev releases it and forget about the OTA.
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I'm on the leak also I'm hopping it isn't like the the Eris or Incredible leak, which ever it was. To many phone's to keep track of Lol.
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Just curious, if I'm s-off and can/have flashed new radio and kernel is there still any reason to install the latest and greatest ruu? Are there any other benefits? Maybe I'm missing something but the latest roms from our awesome devs are being rebased on the latest leaks...I just don't see why flashing a ruu is needed. If I'm wrong or missing something please let me know. Thanks in advance.
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Nah its has the same fw as last one just few bug fixed in software level
I'm not saying specifically the last one, I mean in general as new ruus come out. If vzw doesn't eol us that is. Thanks though.
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in term of battery life i would stick to gb fw
but u can ics with patch and still got nice battery life
I've been rooted day one and s-off from the first day it was available and running cleanrom ics. GB sucked with sense for the half a day I used it. This was just an overall general question of "what's the point" and i'm sure others had similar thoughts. I'd hate for anyone to run a ruu for no reason just to have to re-setup their "got it the way I want it" rom of choice.
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If you're flashing the radio and perhaps hboot updates every time, probably not. I guess the good thing about the RUU is that you flash everything together in a package that is known with some certainty by the manufacturer to all play nice. You can always nandroid your custom ROM back on afterwards.
That said...I independently flashed hboot once or twice, and radio several times, on my old Incredible without incident. I've only done the RUU, and only one time, on the Rez.
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If you're flashing the radio and perhaps hboot updates every time, probably not. I guess the good thing about the RUU is that you flash everything together in a package that is known with some certainty by the manufacturer to all play nice. You can always nandroid your custom ROM back on afterwards.
That said...I independently flashed hboot once or twice, and radio several times, on my old Incredible without incident. I've only done the RUU, and only one time, on the Rez.
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Yeah I've update the hboot with latest jb and flashed the latest radio and kernel, no issues thus far and all is well...so I conclude ruus are a waste unless that's what you want to roll with is stock
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It appears that HBOOT 1.15 will not get s-off any time soon...Is it O.K. to upgrade to HBOOT 1.19 and wait then for s-off capabilities, or is 1.19 taboo also.
I am rooted, can I stall HBOOT 1.19 with abd, or would I have to root the phone again, and install a recovery...
There are 2 ways, ruu or revert to stock for ota. You must relock bootloader before ruu or ota. For the ota you need stock recovery as well. There's a few misconceptions floating around. First is that you need to update to run the latest base, this is simply not true, I'm running mikeys latest without issue. The second is basically the same but involving the aroma installer, flashes fine but sometimes kernel will not flash and you boot to bootloader. This does not mean you need to update only that the kernel did not like the new base, fastboot kernel and you'll be fine. Some people still have WiFi issues and others have LTE issues, both should have been addressed in the last 2 updates and people with the latest firmware are still having problems. To me this does not warrant relocking upgrading and going through the unlock again.
A lot of people including myself don't consider 1.19 an upgrade and like om said you don't nerf to update
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Always best waiting
In my experiences, it is almost ALWAYS best to wait. If for some reason 1.19 gets s-off before 1.15 then u can update. But for now, just wait. I got lucky and I'm 1.12 s-off either way warranty is gone so always get s-off whenever possible.
I keep seeing threads about s-off. I'll like people to be more specific as to what they're trying to achieve that they can't while being s-on?
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Just the ability to directly flash software to partitions normally inaccessible, Firmware basically. Those of us s-on would have to flash back to stock, lock hboot, and accept an ota or relock and run the ruu
Also, don't know the details of any of it, but in the s-off bounty thread guy is donating a 1.15 hboot. U can flip a coin better than I can say what they will do with it then. Either update it to 1.19 or try and find the exploit on 1.15.
Personally, if I was a badass at finding exploits in HTC coding then I'd crack both like yesterday. But if I was that badass I'd have better stuff to do as well... Hoping for 1.19 s-off just for future development.
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Also, don't know the details of any of it, but in the s-off bounty thread guy is donating a 1.15 hboot. U can flip a coin better than I can say what they will do with it then. Either update it to 1.19 or try and find the exploit on 1.15.
Personally, if I was a badass at finding exploits in HTC coding then I'd crack both like yesterday. But if I was that badass I'd have better stuff to do as well... Hoping for 1.19 s-off just for future development.
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there is a guy in the s-off thread saying he will give up his phone and i saw fuses sent him a PM reply about it hang in there guys
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There are 2 ways, ruu or revert to stock for ota. You must relock bootloader before ruu or ota. For the ota you need stock recovery as well. There's a few misconceptions floating around. First is that you need to update to run the latest base, this is simply not true, I'm running mikeys latest without issue.
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Quick question: Are you saying that if I wanted to run Mean ROM that I do not need to be in the latest OTA? I'm confused because I was under the understanding that we needed to be on 2.13. Please clarify for me.
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No you don't, I ran meanrom a few days ago and today I switched to viper 2.02. Meanroms kernel installer worked fine, viper required fastboot but both run fine
Thanks for the quick response. Wow, I feel like a dumb *ss now. I've been holding out trying any new roms because I didn't want to come off of hboot 1.15.
Which rom do you like better so far between viper and mikey's?
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The level of customization on viper is crazy, meanrom runs great with evilz kernel and is closer to stock. I'm still sifting through the different mods for viper and I've yet to check out any themes but so far but I'm still digging through it all
I'm just learning that there is a new OTA. Whatever the case, I have not received it yet but am curious as to how I should handle it. This phone still confuses me a bit when it comes to unlocking etc.
Currently I am S-On, Rooted and running Shrike's PAC-Man rom. I kinda been lazy about staying up to date with everything and just got in my routine of flashing new releases.
Now i'm reading about this update and new hboot versions and wondering what I should be doing now. Should I accept the update in my current status or should I be doing something else to update? What about my hboot version, i'm still at 2.25. Should I be updating that myself or just take the OTA to handle it. My apologies if this is a redundant question.
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I'm just learning that there is a new OTA. Whatever the case, I have not received it yet but am curious as to how I should handle it. This phone still confuses me a bit when it comes to unlocking etc.
Currently I am S-On, Rooted and running Shrike's PAC-Man rom. I kinda been lazy about staying up to date with everything and just got in my routine of flashing new releases.
Now i'm reading about this update and new hboot versions and wondering what I should be doing now. Should I accept the update in my current status or should I be doing something else to update? What about my hboot version, i'm still at 2.25. Should I be updating that myself or just take the OTA to handle it. My apologies if this is a redundant question.
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First, the updated wont be pushed to you because you aren't on a sense rom, and i think the AOSP has the OTAkill.apk but i would need to look for it.
Second, the update is a good thing. not only does it have a new hboot but it has new radios, firmware and other goodies for the phone.
if you were to do the update, i wouldnt wait for VZW to push it. there is a zip that is in the development forum that you may flash to get the benefits of the update.
if you go down this route it will make the phone 100% stock. You would have to do the dev unlock with token and flash a recovery to get back to root status.
if you were to do this you also need to back up internal sd card just in case.
EDIT: Here are the steps you would take if you wanted to update the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40831457&postcount=59
credit goes to brenuga give him all the thanks you can.
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First, the updated wont be pushed to you because you aren't on a sense rom, and i think the AOSP has the OTAkill.apk but i would need to look for it.
Second, the update is a good thing. not only does it have a new hboot but it has new radios, firmware and other goodies for the phone.
if you were to do the update, i wouldnt wait for VZW to push it. there is a zip that is in the development forum that you may flash to get the benefits of the update.
if you go down this route it will make the phone 100% stock. You would have to do the dev unlock with token and flash a recovery to get back to root status.
if you were to do this you also need to back up internal sd card just in case.
EDIT: Here are the steps you would take if you wanted to update the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40831457&postcount=59
credit goes to brenuga give him all the thanks you can.
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Thanks and thank you brenuga. That clears things up for me.
Is there a better S-Off method? In S-Off and don't want to lose root again and have to lock the bootloader
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sk8bert12 said:
Is there a better S-Off method? In S-Off and don't want to lose root again and have to lock the bootloader
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Flash this in HBOOT. Only will work for s-off people
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40767819&postcount=33
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Is there a better S-Off method? In S-Off and don't want to lose root again and have to lock the bootloader
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You can be S-OFF and still get the OTA, you just have to be pure stock, or you can flash the files in the thread which Flyhalf posted below.
On my last Rezound, I flashed the updated hboot and radios while already S-OFF, rooted and running Nils' ROM. On my current ROM, I got the OTA downloaded while still pure stock, then unlocked bootloader, flashed Amon Ra, rooted, then got S-OFF. Obviously, if there are any subsequent OTA's, I'll have to wait for a flashable.
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Flash this in HBOOT. Only will work for s-off people
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40767819&postcount=33
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Thanks for the link/post. But what does this exactly do to an S-Off Rezound? Will this update/install just the HBOOT/Radios?
I'm on Ineffabilis Deus v1.2 ICS 4.0.3. I believe this might have been from the leaked global ruu.
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Thanks for the link/post. But what does this exactly do to an S-Off Rezound? Will this update/install just the HBOOT/Radios?
I'm on Ineffabilis Deus v1.2 ICS 4.0.3. I believe this might have been from the leaked global ruu.
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That was from the Global Leak. But the zip will just update firmware such as hboot and radio and few other stuff
I'm s-off. If I flash the latest RUU (whatever it is), then get the new global OTA update, I will retain my s-off-ness, correct? I'll just have to re-root and flash a recovery?
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I'm s-off. If I flash the latest RUU (whatever it is), then get the new global OTA update, I will retain my s-off-ness, correct? I'll just have to re-root and flash a recovery?
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No zip file of any kind will get you back to s-on. you must use fastboot to write to the secure flag. FYI