I have a video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDxJoGv3FLA&feature=channel I have more videos on youtube and tons on siting on my SD card. I had only used 12GB and this is what they did and even the new phone does it, so if phone=good, network=fine and I got a new sim so it=fine.
More videos:
1)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUyt2R69Ya4&feature=channel
2)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ozWxWYPgI8&feature=relmfu
3)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luzvVb79-Qg&feature=channel
4)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXPlolDGtfs&feature=relmfu
5)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgDnByyo0tw&feature=channel
2nd phone videos:
1)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOo4q4qGZCc
2)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckRYSNuAtXc&feature=channel
3)http://youtu.be/l1L_EZVEsHw
So Then whats left?
Throttling thats what
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Update: I just pulled this "there actually HAS been 4g throttling cases. if you use a **** ton of data on an unlimited plan they will throttle you. a guy on rootzwiki i think the galaxy nexus forums, had data throttling on 4g and the customer service lady said it was because he was in the top 5% of users :/" (Link:http://rootzwiki.com/topic/14945-yes-verizon-does-throttle-4g/page__st__50)
Eat it haters
Update2: This a vs video. Verizon throttled 4G vs verizon not throttled 4G. Eat that. If you guys want, I will go back and ask to swap sims with one of the phones on the foor. (I don't think they would let me make a video of it)
Link:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCbvDEewcJU
I fixed no more 600kbs. Oh yea
Update3: It has come back, so now I went to the FCC and the BBB.
Based on the Hotspot app, your signal, and your battery status all going completely crazy in this video I'd guess your phone needs to be wiped or replaced. Throttling is generally making the internet slower, not making your phone act crazy.
That was the first phone in that video. I will upload videos with the new phone soon and they are not like that. That phone was wiped and it still did it. replacement still some times gives me 600kbs with data droping on 4G. I think I am being throttled, but can't poof it yet.
Every rep I talk to about this seems to know more than they are letting on, when I ask about throttling. It's all ways to the book, like some one is doing flash cards they HAVE TO READ and THEN TELL ME WHAT THEY SAY.
It really piss's me off, they can't just come out with it so I know what the limit is.
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I have a video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDxJoGv3FLA&feature=channel I have more videos on youtube and tons on siting on my SD card. I had only used 12GB and this is what they did and even the new phone does it, so if phone=good, network=fine and I got a new sim so it=fine.
More videos:
1)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUyt2R69Ya4&feature=channel
2)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ozWxWYPgI8&feature=relmfu
3)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luzvVb79-Qg&feature=channel
4)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXPlolDGtfs&feature=relmfu
5)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgDnByyo0tw&feature=channel
So Then whats left?
Throttling thats what
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No, this is NOT throttling. Verizon is VERY clear and up front on how they deal with high data usage. They will reduce your data speed but only in areas of congestion and only while the congestion is occurring.
BUT- are you saying you used 12gb of data in one billing period? REALLY?
12 gb of data on 4g is not that much... I have unlimited plan as well.
My ISP was being bad to me, so Netflix and youtube did most of that. The videos are of the first phone. I will try and upload videos of the 2nd phone later today.
That's definitely not throttling. That's the phone dropping connection. Things would be a lot more stable if you weren't tethering while using 1080p video, I'll bet you the phone is getting really hot and trying to drop 4G so it can cool down. Are you on the newest OTA update?
In that video that may be the case, but I have some videos I am about to upload that have nothing to do with 1080p video or tethering.
The odd thing is 3G acts a lot better than this. It was slow, but it held. 4G is like 11mbs to 100kbs. It sucks so much that I use my S2 most of the time and have used 8.9GB in 6 days. (Thats what the ICS data use app says. I don't know how much AT&T thinks I have used.)
A new set of videos is going up now.
I know I've said this before and I'll say it again, this is NOT throttling. If it was throttling, you would keep 4G but it would be extremely slow download speeds. The videos look like you might have an issue with the 4G radio. Get the phone replaced, be nice about it and make sure the rep knows that it's your third phone. Make sure they give you a brand new SIM card as well.
Thay would not give me a new phone. They put a low proity ticket in and said to call back on 4/11/2012. I think they are BSing me.
Edit: I used my s2 to send this miss typed post. Lol
Verizon 4g should read: up to 10x slower than AT&T's 3g. I meen that for real, 600kbs vs 6000kbs.
BS. I use up to 90 to 100 gb's some months and others I only use 10 gb's or so and my speeds never slow. That is not throttling and I'm pretty sure VZW hasn't figured out how to throttle LTE/4G yet.
Now the throttling on congested networks makes sense and I am in the city of Chicago which I assume Verizon isn't too congested being that almost all my friends are on Sprint and AT&T.
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Verizon 4g should read: up to 10x slower than AT&T's 3g. I meen that for real, 600kbs vs 6000kbs.
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You're trippin...
Ive got unlim data with VZ and have NEVER gotten throttled.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1476109
Ive used up to 102 GB in a single billing cycle and all was well. I use 20-30 in a normal month.
Currently im 9 days into my billing cycle and have used 15.688GB.
I regulary hit 30-40 Mbps down and 10-20 Mbps down
^ Mirrors my results.
I am about to upload a new video to proof me right. I just went into a verizon store and did a VS. I went into a AT&T store too, but did not do a VS video in there. The AT&T LTE would have killed my speeds x50. Yes AT&T and verizon have LTE were I live.
I've had my phone for 5 months and haven't even used 4g because its still not available where I live. I'm extremely happy when I even get 1mb/s download.
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So what are you saying I should do? Throttling or not, the point is I am having a issue with my data connetion. If you think it's fine, good for you then.
I don't know what else it could be. I asked a rep in the store if he would give me a new sim card, but he would not do it and told me to call tech and then I said screw it. I reported that jerk.( No I did not, but now I wish I did.)
Over all I have to say this sucks and the guy in the AT&T store said "yea that must suck". I showed them how much data I used and he said they must throttle quick.
Verizon 4G LTE 2/10. 1 point for working half way and 1 for the upload works right most of the time.
Going by a lot of threads you start you like to complain.....and I'm guessing that's how you act in every day life away from the internet, hence why you're getting nowhere with VZW. I think you have a lemon of a phone/razr. I don't believe it has anything to do with VZW's network.
I have been very nice with the reps and under stand it's not them doing this to me. To think I act this way or that in "real life" is a big jump.
Edit: I have been playing this like a chess game, looking for the longer term play. I have a "plan" and I think the phone coming out on the 12th will play a nice roll into this. I wanted to have so much proof my phone is craped up they would give me a new one on the spot. The last time I did not have all this "proof" I had to call TW cable over and over. ( I was geting sup 1mbs out of it.) When they came out, they were like I don't get it. I was like I am paying for 10/1 and you are giving me 1/1. When he did the "speedtest" it read 7mbs. And I was like it was slow before. So he left. And bam 1mbs by the way. That took forever to fix.
So do you see why I am doing this? If no, good for you then.
I think Verizon is a "lemon".
I dont understand half of what you're trying to say.
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Just curious if it is my area I live in or me screwing around with my phone. I live in Fresno, CA and we've had HSPA+ here for a couple of months. I was averaging around 3mbps down and 1.5 up from my house and 4-5k at my office. All of the sudden I am getting extremely poor 3g speeds. 200-300k at my house and 600-700k at my office. Just wondering if anyone is from the area here and if they are experiencing the same issues.
The only thing I did was flash the JPM froyo to mess around. I am now back running Bionix fusion 1.1 with stock kernel and ji6 modem.
Edit: Going to Odin back to official JI6, I'll post results in case anyone is curious.
Edit 2: Didnt work, still getting the same speeds. Just talked to a friend of mine down in southern CA and he is no longer getting HSPA+ speeds on his vibrant. Anyone else having an issues like this?
Anyone else in HSPA+ areas having this happen?
yes. very strange. and its ****ing pissing me off too.
i work in addison, tx (dallas suburb basically) and i used to get 4 to alllmost 6mbps down at work. up speeds have always sucked a nut but that's fine with me because you're only sending http requests most of the time so 300kbps is fine.
past few months it has become VERY spotty. some days my down speeds are under 200, the ping times out, and my up speeds are 1.2-2mpbs (WTF!?) this is with four full bars most of the time. its so bad that with the awesome ups, pages IMMEDIATELY time out, i cant even browse little mobile sites like m.facebook.com a lot of the time.
outside of this area, everything seems to go back to almost normal again. i no longer get 4+ down speeds anymore, but they're better, 1.5-2 i can live with.
it started happening before i rooted the phone and flashed any roms. and has never gone back to normal with the other roms i've tried, so im pretty sure it is a network issue.
the only other thing i could think of is maybe my sim card is crapping out, but i dont have another sim to test, as all of my friends dont have tmobile smartphones with a data plan and i'm way too lazy to go back to stock and go argue with a tmobile store rep to get a new sim card for free. mine is probably at least 6 years old at this point.
see what i mean? this could be better i guess since it wont let me select a server near me (this is renton, wa)
pings, in order as those are shown in the screencap are:
92ms
160ms
111ms
93ms
also, instead of UMTS like it used to say, now it just says "Network: Cell"
this makes no sense.
I'm running stock jfd firmware still and my 3g has been sucking ass as of late as well and I'm near Dallas. I was in Addison Saturday night with full bars and good signal and couldn't do anything. Tried espn mobile and it was so slow. Forced it back to edge and it was a lot better. Tmo 3g here in dfw is hit or miss.....mostly miss. I was in Grapevine a cpl wks ago and was getting 5mbps down...never seen that before around here. But I still say its hit or miss mostly.
I have noticed that the 3g speeds I've been getting here in beaumont, tx are way below what I used to get as well. Sometimes 3g is even slower than edge!
I wonder if maybe the T-Mobile network is simply getting overloaded?
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im in san antonio and im getting the same average of about 4.5/1.5 like i have since the network upgrade. no problems here so far...i did notice my friends G2 has the H instead of the 3G but isnt any faster than my Nexus or my Vibrant, i figured the g2 would blow away my phones but his g2 averages about 4.5/1....
ive asked this in several different threads and cant seem to get a straight answer. maybe im asking wrong, so I am trying to make my question as clear as possible:
I am trying to figure out if im getting tmobiles new network in my area; (4g/hspa+). before I get flammed, yes, i do realize that our phones wont get 21mps download speed on the new network and the best we should see is 7.2mps, but probably wont get that in real world experience.
So i have been getting better speeds in the past few weeks in my area (between 1.5 and 3mps download) but that alone does not tell me if i am getting a good 3g signal or poor 4g/what ever its called signal.
When you go into settings> about phone> status, it says mobile network type. I am assuming that the Mobile network type will change depending if on new network, 3g, or edge....? (hspa, hspa+, hsdpa) Can anyone confirm or deny that this should or will change depending on what area we are in and what type of data connection we are connected to?
The other way someone told me to check is by downloading mobile signal widget and it will display 3g or H. For me this does not seem very accurate but it does display 3g or H...
The reason I dont know if Im on their newest/fastest network is because they have a coverage map on their website for HSPA+. my city is not on it, but a city about 15-20 miles away is on it. I did not really think i would be getting it since its not my city, but like i said ive noticed somewhat faster speeds, nothing like 4-6 mbs download that would confirm it for me, but enough to make me unsure and question.
so sorry for the long post. basically just wondering if network type under about phone will change depending on if im getting normal 3g or their newer/faster network and if that mobile signal widget is an accurate way to tell
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velocd said:
Just curious if it is my area I live in or me screwing around with my phone. I live in Fresno, CA and we've had HSPA+
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If you have a vibrant you never got HSPA+, you just benefitted from its speed, the phone isn't capable of the +
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turbosix said:
yes. very strange. and its ****ing pissing me off too.
i work in addison, tx (dallas suburb basically) and i used to get 4 to alllmost 6mbps down at work. up speeds have always sucked a nut but that's fine with me because you're only sending http requests most of the time so 300kbps is fine.
past few months it has become VERY spotty. some days my down speeds are under 200, the ping times out, and my up speeds are 1.2-2mpbs (WTF!?) this is with four full bars most of the time. its so bad that with the awesome ups, pages IMMEDIATELY time out, i cant even browse little mobile sites like m.facebook.com a lot of the time.
outside of this area, everything seems to go back to almost normal again. i no longer get 4+ down speeds anymore, but they're better, 1.5-2 i can live with.
it started happening before i rooted the phone and flashed any roms. and has never gone back to normal with the other roms i've tried, so im pretty sure it is a network issue.
the only other thing i could think of is maybe my sim card is crapping out, but i dont have another sim to test, as all of my friends dont have tmobile smartphones with a data plan and i'm way too lazy to go back to stock and go argue with a tmobile store rep to get a new sim card for free. mine is probably at least 6 years old at this point.
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I got an extra sim from when I got my vibrant...I'm in arlington..plus my speeds have improved since I got rooted with the new updates and on fusion 1.1 with voodoo
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I got an extra sim from when I got my vibrant...I'm in arlington..plus my speeds have improved since I got rooted with the new updates and on fusion 1.1 with voodoo
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every single time ive bought a new phone from tmobile, the rep always takes the sim cards out of the box and uses my existing one.
a buddy of mine left tmobile because they wanted to charge him $20 for a sim card.
i actually brought that up with the tmobile twitter account and they just said "sim cards are usually not free"
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every single time ive bought a new phone from tmobile, the rep always takes the sim cards out of the box and uses my existing one.
a buddy of mine left tmobile because they wanted to charge him $20 for a sim card.
i actually brought that up with the tmobile twitter account and they just said "sim cards are usually not free"
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That's crazy I've always kept mind...
turbosix said:
every single time ive bought a new phone from tmobile, the rep always takes the sim cards out of the box and uses my existing one.
a buddy of mine left tmobile because they wanted to charge him $20 for a sim card.
i actually brought that up with the tmobile twitter account and they just said "sim cards are usually not free"
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That's strange. I've always gotten my sim cards free from t-mobile. Just tell them the existing one keeps giving you a sim card error and that when you purchased your vibrant they took the sim card that came with it (because they typically do). They will take your old one and replace it with a newer one.
I told the rep I would not buy the phone without a new sim. He immediately swapped it from my g1 to a new one.
doubt it will help, but have you switched to airplane mode, reboot and then turn airplane mode so it finds your network again? I didn't even have data this morning and that fixed it.
Remember t mo is in the process of a major upgrade to their network too...
Every time I buy a phone from a TMO retail store and they go to take the sim I tell them to keep their fingers off and leave it in the box because I paid for it already. What they will do is put it in their binder for when the next poor schmuck walks in having lost their sim so they can get charged for it.
They try to give you the same BS about it costing money and maybe that's true if you lose it, but not with a brand new phone purchase. Even my new Vibrant I ordered from loyalty came with a new SIM in the box. I just kept it as a spare. The things these stores do to double-dip a measily $20.
honestly i probably should have but i assumed it was normal since i have never had network connection issues when going to buy a new phone. i've never even batted an eyelash when they did this.
if i odin my phone back to stock and take it up to them i'll definitely bring it up if they try to charge me.
so is there anything like this with verizon ?
i m currently with tmobile and want to switch.
raydm said:
so is there anything like this with verizon ?
i m currently with tmobile and want to switch.
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A lot more than tmobile (who has a 2gb cap before they throttle you).
Before july 7th the unlimited data plan for $30 will have no cap which is a big plus for people who live in a 4g area. Starting on the 7th new customers will have to pick data packages what start with 2gb a month for $20 or $30. New plans suck.
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A lot more than tmobile (who has a 2gb cap before they throttle you).
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Currently with T-Mobile, they don't throttle you until you reach 5 gb. Some plans are different but being with T-Mobile for several years and NEVER been throttled, my plan is 5 gb. I am also going to switch to Verizon to take advantage of their data plan before they change.
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A lot more than tmobile (who has a 2gb cap before they throttle you).
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new t-mobile unlimited plans are 2gb for the special price, all others are still 5gb and they will throttle you (found out the first month).
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so is there anything like this with verizon ?
i m currently with tmobile and want to switch.
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Verizon's official position is that they may throttle those that are in the top 5% of data users, esp during peak data usage times. Only been with them a couple of weeks so not sure how hard ass they are. Haven't seen anyone complain.
I've only used about 4gb so far in 2 weeks.
I've been using about 10-15 gigs a month for the last 3 years and have never seen any cap,I'm sure they will start it when the new pricing plans start but I plan to keep my service the way it is.
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I have also been told by Verizon employees that plans in place before 7/7/11 will be grandfathered. If you don't have a VZW data plan yet but have been considering it, pull the trigger before the 7th.
I have not been able to confirm that the unlimited cap on grandfathered plans will be "for life" but this has been the general consensus from what I've heard.
so there is no data throttling on verizon as of now ! cause i might just use about 10 -15 gb of 4g in a month.
verizon throttles but that was 3G... not sure if that applies to 4G... yet.
6.6gb in third week and haven't been throttled. unlike the tmobile where i got throttled to 56k speeds.
I have never heard this 5% thing before. I am on a 3g only area and can say my data is getting throttled pretty rough. Been days since I got solid speeds and my girlfriends dinc, my old phone, is getting way better speeds. I am currently over 4.5 gb this month and she is under 2.5
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Good god what do you people do to use that much data? If I TRY to use a lot, I may use 4gb in a MONTH! I just don't find out practical to watch full movies on my phone... Sure a youtube video every now and then, but not a WHOLE movie. Talk about a battery killer...
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Recently, in order to save battery whenever im home which is most of the time i switch off the 3G network and go on wifi. Since I dont have 4G coverage near my home yet its much better than running of 3G. not only has it been lowering my data usage which is small to begin with but been making my battery last forever. even on my extended battery.
I have a boring job and no super vision. plus I tether a lot...
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Well data flies when you tether,a movie on the phone might only be 300mb but the same flick on a pc it 2gb,anyway since I have been a vzw slave I have bounced as much a 20gb but average 10-15gb,i drive a truck and this is my internet,as far as speeds go some 3g markets are slow some are fast but I have never seen it throttled,as far as 4g goes fastest I have seen is phoenix, slowest was oklahoma city, los angeles is consistant all over the valley.
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I just switched to verizon yesterday after learning this so that I would be grandfathered in. I spoke to 2 different store reps and 1 online rep and they all confirmed that data usage is 100% unthrottled and uncapped if you sign up before the 7th. Now I imagine there is some fine print which says if you use 50GB in a month they can throttle you if they wish, but obviously this is well above and beyond anyone's usage pattern.
On tmobile I was routinely hitting the 2GB cap without doing much at all. I stream a lot of music while I drive, and email a lot of 5MP pictures to myself to watch on my computer so I dont have to worry about a USB cable. I also surf on my lunch break and in the evenings on the couch. I can use about 1GB a week doing this.
I think im getting throttled. my 3g used t be much faster.
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I think im getting throttled. my 3g used t be much faster.
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Go download speedtest and tell us what you get. Make sure you are doing this in a known good area.
I used over 70GB the first month this was out and never got throttled and still don't(Didn't have internet for that month so my phone became the internet). So its a good bet its quite high and will stay there for the unlimited people. >1MB/sec upload speeds <3 for torrents
I asked this in the razr form, but I got nailed. Verizon markets this phone to death and when I have have been on the phone with them calls it "there best phone". I am on my 2nd phone and 2nd sim card. They will not take this one back.
What should I do? What can I do help!!!
Videos:
1st phone:
1)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDxJoGv3FLA&feature=relmfu
2)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luzvVb79-Qg&feature=channel
3)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgDnByyo0tw&feature=channel
2nd phone:
1)http://youtu.be/l1L_EZVEsHw
2)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOo4q4qGZCc&feature=channel
Thanks from 4ktvs
Edit: Ok I guess not. I guess I need to ask for a new phone some how. I don't think they will take this one back.
How much do rez's go for?
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Edit: full data use:
January: about 30Gb ( Unlimited LTE was cool as mess at the time, but droped a lot. )
February: 89Gb ( Internet was bad)
March: 54Gb ( Internet was still bad, but got it fixed.)
So far: 35GB and it just ended. ( I uploaded a lot of thing's with it. When working that is)
More: So I have not even used 50mb, not gb MB and this happened:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9KuhIivbm4
The end: Well I guess using 90gb throttle's you forever on Verizon and now I will have to keep my month to month line on AT&T. I will just wait it out and end it at the end of the 2 years. oh well I can live with it.
Thread is done, Mods lock this thread down. It has turned into a flame fest and I will take full hit for this.
just an update to say it's been fixed, no more 500kbs every 24hours.
Sorry to all for thinking I was "throttled", but I looked all over the internet: Xda,youtube, verizon forums, and more. I could not find any one with the same issue. And yes I should be called stupid, a jerk, and the list go's on.
I was hard headed about this issue and I was not right.
And even if I had been "throttled" I got what was coming any ways. I did not think it was fair to be throttled for is long as I was, but I have had a weekend to think about it. Any way just happy to have this fixed and I don't be using 50+GB a month any more, thats for sure.
Any way sorry for being a bit of a jerk and no I don't think you will just "forgive" me or anything, but I when I know I have been a jerk. The lest I could do is say your right and I was not.
Edit again: It has come back so now I went to the BBB and the FCC.
If I remember correctly, Verizon does not throttle 4G - they will only throttle 3G and only if you're in their "top 5%" which really just means you've consumed more than 5GB of data on the current billing cycle..
Looks like maybe you're either in an area with terrible 4G coverage, or you should have just gotten a Rezound and not a RAZR
No. Unless you're on 3G. And even then, probably not.
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If I remember correctly, Verizon does not throttle 4G - they will only throttle 3G and only if you're in their "top 5%" which really just means you've consumed more than 5GB of data on the current billing cycle..
Looks like maybe you're either in an area with terrible 4G coverage, or you should have just gotten a Rezound and not a RAZR
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there actually HAS been 4g throttling cases. if you use a **** ton of data on an unlimited plan they will throttle you. a guy on rootzwiki i think the galaxy nexus forums, had data throttling on 4g and the customer service lady said it was because he was in the top 5% of users :/
a.mcdear said:
If I remember correctly, Verizon does not throttle 4G - they will only throttle 3G and only if you're in their "top 5%" which really just means you've consumed more than 5GB of data on the current billing cycle..
Looks like maybe you're either in an area with terrible 4G coverage, or you should have just gotten a Rezound and not a RAZR
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I should have went for the rezound, but my verizon bud pushed the razr and I said ok.
Now I guess I got a crap phone. Do I need to buy a new phone? (Rezound)
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there actually HAS been 4g throttling cases. if you use a **** ton of data on an unlimited plan they will throttle you. a guy on rootzwiki i think the galaxy nexus forums, had data throttling on 4g and the customer service lady said it was because he was in the top 5% of users :/
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YES thank you. tell me more
I used 12Gb and bam 400-600kbs day and night.
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YES thank you. tell me more
I used 12Gb and bam 400-600kbs day and night.
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12gb?!? That's insane I barely brake 2 on my unlimited
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Here's the link idk if they found a solution http://rootzwiki.com/topic/14945-yes-verizon-does-throttle-4g/
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My internet was bad. I got mad at this when I got 600kbs, so I started uploading youtube videos with it and now I sit at 30GB.
Yeah I'm not sure - they state clearly that they do not throttle 4G, but we all know that what they say and what they do aren't always the same thing. But the one thing I can tell you is that I get great 4G speeds and coverage on my Rezound, but I am not a huge data user. I have an unlimited plan, and tether my tablet to my phone everyday, but I generally only use between 2 and 3GB per month, so I've never gotten up into the range where throttling would be a problem. Honeslty I keep it in 3G mode 99% of the time because its fast enough for what I do (mostly just RDP connections, Google Music, light web browsing and Google Maps) and the battery lasts much longer.
look around the forums. iirc there is a data throttle remover. I never owned a razr so I don't know if one was developed for that phone.
Verizon is NOT throttling 4G, unless they've changed their policies. And even then, they don't throttle 3G like AT&T throttles. It's not based on individual users, it's based on tower load, so whoever made up this "5%" thing needs to get their story straight if they're going to make sh*t up.
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To optimize our network, we manage data connection speeds for a small subset of customers – the top 5% of data users with 3G devices on unlimited data plans – and only in places and at times of 3G network congestion.
It's not about the top 5%, it's about place and time. You could be 5% and never get throttled because the towers you use aren't congested.
my internet seemed slow when i was at 1.9gbs-2gbs and then when i went over 2gbs it was fine. idk bug or something.
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To optimize our network, we manage data connection speeds for a small subset of customers – the top 5% of data users with 3G devices on unlimited data plans – and only in places and at times of 3G network congestion.
It's not about the top 5%, it's about place and time. You could be 5% and never get throttled because the towers you use aren't congested.
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To optimize our network, we manage data connection speeds for a small subset of customers – the top 5% of data users with 3G devices on unlimited data plans – and only in places and at times of 3G network congestion.
It's not about the top 5%, it's about place and time. You could be 5% and never get throttled because the towers you use aren't congested.
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it SAYS the top 5% there! your PROVING yourself wrong. quit raging about making up stuff when it says it on the VERIZON website. SIT DOWN jk lol
tekhna said:
To optimize our network, we manage data connection speeds for a small subset of customers – the top 5% of data users with 3G devices on unlimited data plans – and only in places and at times of 3G network congestion.
It's not about the top 5%, it's about place and time. You could be 5% and never get throttled because the towers you use aren't congested.
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So what is this then and have you seen it before?
I have had some time trying to get this fixed.
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it SAYS the top 5% there! your PROVING yourself wrong. quit raging about making up stuff when it says it on the VERIZON website. SIT DOWN jk lol
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So what is this then and have you seen it before?
I have had some time trying to get this fixed.
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No, I haven't because I have a 4G phone, and so do you, which means it doesn't apply to us. You're not being throttled.
Hey all,
Im a sprint evo 4g owner, and am considering the razr maxx from verizon. Where I live here in maine, verizon has the best signal, and network reliability of all service providers.. or so I hear anyway...
On sprint, I roam prolly half the time, and anyone that has had sprint knows roaming speeds blow goat nads When I'm roaming and have full signal, I max out at 128kbps... Verizon guys I know out here get 1mbps +/- with 1-2 bars, add in the multiple dropped calls for seemingly no reason, and... I'm about done..
The evo has been a great phone, had it almost 2 years now, I rooted a lil over a year ago, and have pretty much got the full use out of it, considering its limitations from the network its on..
Guess what I wanna know from you guys is...
How is the network? Drop calls often for no reason? Data speeds pretty consistent?
How is verizons customer service? I've heard pretty horrible things about it, but never had any use myslef... I've found Sprint customer service to be great...
How is this phone in general? It has a huge battery so thats another plus... Even with my rooted evo running custom kernels/roms etc, the battery life leaves much desire... I see on verizons page that the maxx has up to 21.5 hrs talk time.. Thats about 3x what the evo was advertised for... Does it improve even more with custom roms/kernels?
Wifi hotspot and tethering.. I assume once I root, this will be easy enough, just like the evo?
Hdmi... does it work? Sprint shipped the evo with a useless hdmi out port... lol
Google voice... I will not be paying for text messaging, as I use gv for most texting now, does it play nice with the maxx? Also, how about sip calling? I have no signal at all at my house, so I use the wifi for gv, and sipgate, and just forward my calls to the gv #
I guess thats about it guys... I'm sure I'll think of more later, but I pretty much have my mind made up, unless some one points out that some of the thing I asked about simply wont work,,,
Thanks in advance
I actually just moved to a razr from Sprint last month. The speed difference is night and day. Customer service/support so far has been good. No complaints.
The network? 4g rocks. voice calls, never seem to drop. I have coverage in many places where I didn't before. Sound quality is about the same as sprint.
I have the razr, not maxx, so I can't speak to the size on it. I love the razr so far. HDMI out does work on the razr, so I'm assuming it does on the maxx as well. And yes, easy to root and do what you want to it
Motorola phones have the best signal strength of any phones, in addition to Verizon's network which is quite good.
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4g wont matter much for me, as there is no lte in maine yet... Sprint does have wimax in select few spots here, and last year when I first tries it out, I was getting speed test result of 13mbps down, and 8mbps up, In those same places I now get get results of 1mbps op/down (I assume there is more use now), pretty weak considering thats what a good 3g speed should be... and dont even get me started on 3g speeds, or consistency... I notice huge changes while im sitting in the same place...
I never had good luck with motorola phones in the past (tho its been about 7-8 years since I've owned 1) But I hear they have come a long way, and they do hold signal better, or at least show your actual signal better...
I guess... really, I already know the network is gonna be better... cant b any worse, thats for sure... I just wanna make sure I'll be able to use the phone for the things I really need it for... ie:
Google voice - Heard mixed reviews of it with this device, some say it works fine for texting, some say not at all... are the "not at all" ppl just stupid? lol
Same with sip calling - does verizon prohibit it on their network, or block me from downloading the needed apps from the market? I know there are ways around that, but I like the idea of simplicity, which is why we own smart phones in the st place
Rooting; from what ive read, is not terribly difficult, although maybe a bit more involved than rooting my evo, so not too worried about that...
WiFi hotspot - I have no intentions of paying the $30/mo verizon wants for this service, as I hardly use it, but I need it to work when I do use it, and hell... If I'm paying for 10gb/mo of data, I'll use it however the hell I want ... This just as simple as the evo? (usually this feature is cooked into rooted roms on the evo)
Also the battery life - The only reason I'm even considering this device is the 21.5 hrs talk time, and huge 3300mah battery... So is it that great?
I guess those are the major things, the rest is prolly gonna be mostly based on opinion.
I am using the groove IP app. It is in the market. Yah Google brought it back. It let's you use voip with your Google voice. Call quality isn't too bad.
Yes the battery life is amazing. I can get 8 hours with crazy insane use and 4g on or be a tad more conservative by sticking to 3g and get 10-12 hours heavy usage. With texting over 3g with an app and browsing with juice defender I made it to 30% in 17 hours.
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I am using the groove IP app. It is in the market. Yah Google brought it back. It let's you use voip with your Google voice. Call quality isn't too bad.
Yes the battery life is amazing. I can get 8 hours with crazy insane use and 4g on or be a tad more conservative by sticking to 3g and get 10-12 hours heavy usage. With texting over 3g with an app and browsing with juice defender I made it to 30% in 17 hours.
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Wow!! that is unreal!! Even with my evo rooted, and me limiting and monitoring apps, etc... I'm lucky to get 4-5 hrs of heavy usage!!
As for the voip... I am using voice+ from play store now... Used to use gv callfree, but that was removed a while ago... call quality isnt too bad, but there is at least a 1sec delay... this could just be not enough cpu or ram causing that tho...
IMHO... wait to switch. This phone has been top of the tier list so long, it's run is bound to end soon. I advise waiting for something better, it should only be a month tops. even if if the GSIII isn't your cup of tea.
A quick look at coverage charts shows just how INSANELY more coverage you could get with verizon over sprint.
Like you, in my area Verizon has the best coverage and even amongst the verizon phones I've had (including a V3m Razr, EnVtouch and my current Razr Maxx) the Maxx is HANDS DOWN the best at reception night and day over the touch (which was one of the better reception wise), my envtouch wouldn't work till the very top of one hill on my drive to/from work and my Maxx works at the bottom of that hill in the valley several hundred feet lower (300-500 approx) and is intermittent in the valley itself, but NONE of the phones I've seen have had ANY service in that valley, and we don't even have 4G here yet.
I literally am amazed with all the places were this phone works, even at work where we have a small desktop cell repeater (single room style) my maxx works from atleast 50% further away from the repeater then my envtouch did.
It's a bit batter hungery but this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ndroid&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd is great for VOIP using your google voice number.
Wifi Tether is great for rooted phones to share the connection and works right out of the box without having to configure ANYTHING.
And if you download matt's DroidRAZRutility rooting is a BREEZE, literally hook up phone set it into USB debugging mode and click the choice for rooting, phone will reboot twice (IIRC) and about 5 minutes from when you started it, its done.
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IMHO... wait to switch. This phone has been top of the tier list so long, it's run is bound to end soon. I advise waiting for something better, it should only be a month tops. even if if the GSIII isn't your cup of tea.
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Ya... no samsung products for me... I had the moment from sprint... WOW... what a p.o.s. lol Then they moved me to the Cant remember what it was called, but it wasnt much better.
The other thing is... I really dont wanna wait... I dont see naything all that much better coming fro a while.. Maybe a droid whatever 1.5ghz dual core, but I dont see that being a whole lot better than a 1.2...
Idk... Anyone else think I should wait?
Dont see any great things coming from sprint any time soon, they got their heads stuck up their arses with the i-crap...
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A quick look at coverage charts shows just how INSANELY more coverage you could get with verizon over sprint.
Like you, in my area Verizon has the best coverage and even amongst the verizon phones I've had (including a V3m Razr, EnVtouch and my current Razr Maxx) the Maxx is HANDS DOWN the best at reception night and day over the touch (which was one of the better reception wise), my envtouch wouldn't work till the very top of one hill on my drive to/from work and my Maxx works at the bottom of that hill in the valley several hundred feet lower (300-500 approx) and is intermittent in the valley itself, but NONE of the phones I've seen have had ANY service in that valley, and we don't even have 4G here yet.
I literally am amazed with all the places were this phone works, even at work where we have a small desktop cell repeater (single room style) my maxx works from atleast 50% further away from the repeater then my envtouch did.
It's a bit batter hungery but this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ndroid&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd is great for VOIP using your google voice number.
Wifi Tether is great for rooted phones to share the connection and works right out of the box without having to configure ANYTHING.
And if you download matt's DroidRAZRutility rooting is a BREEZE, literally hook up phone set it into USB debugging mode and click the choice for rooting, phone will reboot twice (IIRC) and about 5 minutes from when you started it, its done.
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Exactly what I was hoping to hear! I dont need the next best thing... I just want something that works where/when I need it to, and having 3g everywhere I only have 1x now, is gonna be huge for me... It opens a whole new sales region for me....
I won't go to any other carrier until they offer unlimited data or at least reasonably priced tiered plans. I love paying $110 a month for unlimited for my wife and myself. It would be over $180 on Verizon.
I made the switch from the evo 3D to the RAZR and I'm one happy guy! Service here in northern Virginia is excellent compared to sprint,as well as 4g data speeds that top out at 20 something Mbs!!! No dropped calls,nothing so far! Call quality is crisp and clear. Now onto the phone....this is actually my first Motorola phone after the original RAZR ha! Build and quality wise its real good and durable,the only downside is (coming from a line of HTC phones) boot loaders are a complete ***** lol. Other than that,everything is A1 for me. I pay around $80 per month,I have the 420 or something min plan+6gb data plan + my men's wear house discount lol. Anything else you need to know,feel free to ask! This RAZR forum is one of the few that doesn't have as much trolls,haters,*****yness and empowering individual false personalities like the other forums had In short.....make the switch,you will not regret it!
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I made the switch from the evo 3D to the RAZR and I'm one happy guy! Service here in northern Virginia is excellent compared to sprint,as well as 4g data speeds that top out at 20 something Mbs!!! No dropped calls,nothing so far! Call quality is crisp and clear. Now onto the phone....this is actually my first Motorola phone after the original RAZR ha! Build and quality wise its real good and durable,the only downside is (coming from a line of HTC phones) boot loaders are a complete ***** lol. Other than that,everything is A1 for me. I pay around $80 per month,I have the 420 or something min plan+6gb data plan + my men's wear house discount lol. Anything else you need to know,feel free to ask! This RAZR forum is one of the few that doesn't have as much trolls,haters,*****yness and empowering individual false personalities like the other forums had In short.....make the switch,you will not regret it!
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that reminds me, If you've ever served in the military, bring your military ID to you local verizon and you can get something like 10-20% discount (can't remember exactly) off your monthly bill, something we just learned about when we were getting are Razr Maxx's activated.
If data and minutes bang for your buck is a major point I should also mention Straight Talk has an option now where you can take any cell that works on AT&T and put there sim card in it and have unlimted everything for 45 bucks a month, you might want to think about that if AT&T service is good enough in your area.
my wife and I both have the razr maxx and we regularly get 2 days out of the battery w/ moderate usage.. lots of texting, web use (4G for me at work).. streaming Slacker radio for 8 - 10 hrs while at work (to be fair, I cache the music to my sd card on wifi at home so I don't eat up my 4gigs)...
The battery life on the maxx is sick.
Been a long time sprint user and ROM flasher. Company moved to Verizon and I got the maxx until sgs3 drops. Great battery, development doesn't seem as active as the sprint devices were.
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nothing to worry about it,razer has fine signal every where in global
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it's hard to say sucks about the barttery cause it depends on how you use your phone
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Just wanted to update on this...
I made the switch! And tho its only been less than 24hrs... I can already say I wont be looking back. The drive home from the verizon store was enough in itself to sell me on verizon, and this device! I get full signal 3g now, in places I either had no signal before, or a crappy roaming signal that was no reliable. I was actually able to stream pandora in my garage for a full 3 hrs!! My sprint evo wouldnt have even made thru one song... Aside from the unreal battery life (took off charger at 5pm yesterday, and still at 80%) the device dosent really seem any better than my evo was, but the difference in the network is night and day!
Anyway... thanks a lot guys! And once I get used to this phone, I will be in here looking to root it, and get rid of all this verizon bloat...
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I won't go to any other carrier until they offer unlimited data or at least reasonably priced tiered plans. I love paying $110 a month for unlimited for my wife and myself. It would be over $180 on Verizon.
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This was my big concern... I only get 5gb/mo... But... I never used more than 4 w sprint (mostly cuz their network is slow slow its almost impossible). so I will be keeping an eye on the data usage. From what the customer service rep said... verizon is changing their data rate plans, and tho no one really knows what they are changing, its pretty safe to say, they will be offering more data for the $... (I hope), and I will just change my data plan next month...
I have a Motorola photon from sprint which is almost the same as the razor. I'll say this about Motorola.... awesome phones right out of the box. Change the launcher to go launcher of launcher pro and the speed difference of the phone is night and day. Motorola does not want you unlocking the boot loader and running custom roms and to be honest there isn't any need to.
Root the phone through adb method and apply the water drop mod and download nebtop so you can use web top without a dock. I bought a $30 Bluetooth keyboard off amazon... its pretty nice when travel sling on the bike or just surfing the web in bed on the flat screen.
PS Google just bought Motorola so hopefully the development side of Motorola phones picks up soon.
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First off phone is awesome! I do have a pre order for an s3 from best buy though, so I will be running stock for at least 29 days and putting the phone through its paces. I came from Verizon and the service was overpriced for what I was getting but data speeds were great most of the time. I can deal with this on sprint by using WiFi more which is in abundance on long island. I know sprint is upgrading service, but did I make a mistake leaving Verizon?
If you have access to wifi at home and work you should be good. This is a great phone
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No... I'm skeptical about these changes to the network, but I think Sprint is doing the right thing.
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First off phone is awesome! I do have a pre order for an s3 from best buy though, so I will be running stock for at least 29 days and putting the phone through its paces. I came from Verizon and the service was overpriced for what I was getting but data speeds were great most of the time. I can deal with this on sprint by using WiFi more which is in abundance on long island. I know sprint is upgrading service, but did I make a mistake leaving Verizon?
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Not sure if your reference to the "29 Days" is to the trial period of the phone before committing to it. On Sprint, it has been reduced to 14 Days.... just thought I would throw that out there if you thought you had 30 days to decided if you wanted to keep the phone or not.
I'm referring to best buys policy on the phone not the service
You made the right choice - unlimited data; cheaper prices; network vision upgrade in progress.
The key is wifi. If you have access to it then you be fine. Sprints customer service is by far better then Verizon. By the way, sprints data isnt as bad as most make it out to be. I wont use it for things like downloading roms or watching videos on netflixs or YouTube. But for radio apps and normal emailing and web browsing i think you'll be fine, i know i am.
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The only thing I am concerned about is their quickness to implement the changes. Once all the tower get the software upgrade, it will be legit. They went this route because had they stuck with wimax it would have meant building a LOT more towers... LTE means updating the existing ones, getting 3 or 4 times the range, and maybe building a few more in necessary areas.
Their initial plan was just simply to be the first to have true 4G... which they did successfully. But in my opinion it nipped them in the ass because as soon as everybody got their LTE implemented, it blew the balls off sprint's low range, high spectrum network, and made their "4G" look like a joke.
They are fools, but so is anybody who outrightly decides to go with them knowing their history and then complains about it. Jeez i get so sick of reading threads "o ma you'll never guess what sprint did to me!!!!" .... like stfu and blame yourself for signing the contract.
anyways, little bit of a rant, but once they get LTE up and running it will be nice, and they will. every single place there is a 4g tower, there will be LTE. and in the mean time, more towers will go up.
Service seems good so far been streaming Pandora with no buffering but Sirius xm buffers like a sob
Well, its a sad day. Returned the evo lte due to constant roaming and data drops and weak signal, For a photon. huge downgrade, but at least the photon gets constant data at a respectful speed for me. Im really disappointed about this situation and hope my galaxy s3 pre order comes in right away so I could give it a shot, if not ill go back to the evo lte and hope radio updates help it. Never been this disappointed before over a phone because i really was enjoying the other aspects of it. Photon will at least get wimax in my area. are the data drops and lack of signal reception due to hardware issues with the lte?
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