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I don’t know if i in the right forum-but it appears what i am after which is “a fix to the touch-pro to enable UTMS 850 (wcdma)”, which has been released here in Australia as 900-2100. Telstra our biggest service provider operates on 850, so my “Touch Pro” does not work. Now here’s the thing, HTC released in Australia the Touch Diamond, operating at 900-2100 as is the Touch Pro, they have just released a new Telstra ROM in Australia that upgrades the settings of the Diamond to include the 850 range on utms, so the touch diamond in Australia is now UTS 850-2100. This means the problem is software, however I am nowhere near good at this, could someone not check out this rom and modify it for the Touch Pro, it is available on the HTC Australian site. If this works please let me know.
Thanks 20 times
Touch Pro European version has always had UMTS 850/1900 as a setting you can select. Problem is you can select it but it doesn't work. Do you know if the Telstra ROM you are referring to has been shown to work with UMTS 850?
20times said:
I don’t know if i in the right forum-but it appears what i am after which is “a fix to the touch-pro to enable UTMS 850 (wcdma)”, which has been released here in Australia as 900-2100. Telstra our biggest service provider operates on 850, so my “Touch Pro” does not work. Now here’s the thing, HTC released in Australia the Touch Diamond, operating at 900-2100 as is the Touch Pro, they have just released a new Telstra ROM in Australia that upgrades the settings of the Diamond to include the 850 range on utms, so the touch diamond in Australia is now UTS 850-2100. This means the problem is software, however I am nowhere near good at this, could someone not check out this rom and modify it for the Touch Pro, it is available on the HTC Australian site. If this works please let me know.
Thanks 20 times
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This is not a UMTS-850 update, see
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2480588&postcount=26
bersca said:
Touch Pro European version has always had UMTS 850/1900 as a setting you can select. Problem is you can select it but it doesn't work. Do you know if the Telstra ROM you are referring to has been shown to work with UMTS 850?
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The touch Pro in Australia, does not even have an option for 850 utms as did the the touch dimond, however they have just released an upgrade rom for the dimond that now makes it possible to obtain 850 utms. As the dimond is similar to the touch pro couldnt the experts extract the settings from that rom and export it to the Touch Pro rom? I dont know im just hoping thats the case. If so it should fix the range in europe as well?
850 band in australia
i have ben told by australian htc support that it is a hardware limitation that they will not fix this that they have no intention to do so. They have basically turned there nose up at Telstra as they didnt want to support there phone 3 interpret that as cash), so they have not offered the 850 band as a hardware limitation.
Those with cracked roms showing 850 band, does not operate at 850.
I am extremely mad at this narrow minded pathetic device for which I purchased two of them for about 2500 bucks in total and because I use telstra there comments are along the lines of (paraphrased) get stufed, we dont care, were not refunding, we wont warranty it, the device is not a total pathetic useless piece of **** cause we told you it was 900/2100 only!!!
I know a lot about these phones used them for years and didnt pickup the omission of 850 band (not knowing), my complaint is they should expressly state that "IT DOES NOT WORK ON TELSTRA NEXT G NETWORK AND YOU WILL NOT GET NEXT G SPEED, NEXT G COVERAGE, NOR HSDPA INTERNET SPEEDS ON THE TELSTRA NETWORK"
so in essence, you can only use this on vodaphone, optus, or 3 network.
My phones default back to EDGE speeds wtf!!! alas, the omission rather than explicit statements is what the sneaky good for nothing companies now resort to.
Due credit to www.expansys.com.au, they with integrity, honesty and openness have updated there website to state it will not support telstra next G
As such, dont bother. HTC felt it was prudent in there business management and marketing hype to exclude Australia biggest telecommunications company, fastest internet speed, and greatest coverage.... whilst simulataneously stating that the device is not faulty or flawed and was done by design and marketed by omission!!!
I sent a message to HTC customer support.... I wonder if they will respond....
Curiosity and frustration has got the better of me.
What is the state of your phones with compatability to the nextG network in Australia. I would love to get a HD but if it means that Im only going to get edge network performance I would be better off getting a 16gb iPhone!
For the same argument, I work for a large importer and travel a lot. So cross band compatability IS an issue if I am travelling asia and europe.
Can I please find out what the plans are for your devices on the BIGGEST mobile network in Australia... Telstra NextG.
Or alternately why you have made the choice to shun NextG users and corporate travellers by castrating these wonderful devices and leaving them half as functional as they should be???
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850 band
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Good onya
Bet they dont respond, or they respond with there normal subtleties and innuendo promising everything, delivering something sub-optimal.
There weird i find, in there marketing pitch that they can "spin" on a complaint or comment with avoidance and subtleties.
I also a a long time user of HTC, and brought the Touch Pro from expansys without knowledge of the no support for Telstra. HTC as quoted told me also that they had no intention of supporting Telstra, cut your nose despite your face or what! “Only the biggest service provider in the country and the only provider that supports country areas”. Who is in charge of their marketing? What an idiot. Everyone says it is a hardware limitation, well im not a phone tech just a user and HTC said that about the HTC Dimond 900-2100. Well how come HTC and Telstra now support the Dimond and all of a sudden the ROM upgrade allows the dimond to have 850-2100? I know for a fact in about 6 months Telstra through HTC will release the ROM upgrade for the Touch Pro. So i don’t believe HTC about the hardware limitations and I believe the answers out there, it just gona take someone with a lot more knowledge than me to work it out. I would not have thought there was not that much difference in the Touch Pro ROM and the Dimond ROM- however as stated im no expert.
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Does anyone have an update on this? Is it possible to find out what they did firmware wise on the Diamond?
I too don't believe there is a hardware limitation, oddly though when I went to the latest Hut3 ROM (for AUstralia) I have the UMTS850 option but it doesn't work (no surprise).
Maybe some of the more experienced members can look into the diffeence between a working Diamond UMTS850 ROM & the Hut3 ROM?
The response.....
Hi All,
I got a response... and it wasn't dismissive though it was short and stated only about the HD (sorry, I know its the TP thread!).
They said they are expecting to relaes the HD on the Australian Market in January 09 and that it is expected that there will be a NextG compatable version.
If that means a 850 UMTS version then there "should" be a US version too.
Lets wait and see what HTC can bring to the table.
To be honest folks, I despise and hate Telstra with every bone in my body (people complain about Microsoft but Telstra is 10 BILLION times WORSE!!!!) so I really don't care about this issue... BUT
1. Telstra does NOT offer the TP on their network or for sale within their shops/resellers
2. HTC have NEVER said or listed the TP as being compatible with the Telstra CrapG Australia-only network
3. HTC have ALWAYS listed the frequencies their phones work on - a NORMAL person would have done due diligence BEFORE spending any money
4. A NORMAL person would know Telstra HAS to be different from the rest of the world*, which means ONLY phones sold by Telstra are known to work on their network.
Basically... YOU stuffed up. It is YOUR fault YOU did not LOOK / LEARN and READ. It is NOT HTC's fault. Next time you consider buying a phone... do your homework!!! Don't blame others for YOUR own mistakes.
Bottom line - you should have purchased the 850Mhz American version as they have just as bad mobile phone systems as Telstra - so they might be compatible. Personally I do not think a software update to the phone will enable and allow the 850Mhz freq to work correctly... because there are two hardware versions of the phone available for sale; one for the 900/1900/2100 and another for the 850.
*Isn't it a shame the REST OF THE WORLD (including Vodafone and Optus in Australia) actually having forward thinking and good networks COMPETITIVELY SHARING the 900/1900/2100 freq's.
NOTE: I do not work for any of the businesses named in this posting... but I do have a Touch Pro that I can use anywhere in the world, including Australia :-D
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*Isn't it a shame the REST OF THE WORLD (including Vodafone and Optus in Australia) actually having forward thinking and good networks COMPETITIVELY SHARING the 900/1900/2100 freq's.
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While I agree with the rest of your message... but just to clarify..
1. North American markets use 850/1900 I believe because when those networks were being built, the 900/1800mhz frequencies were already allocated by the FCC in the USA. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM#Technical_details "Some countries in the Americas (including Canada and the United States) use the 850 MHz and 1900 MHz bands because the 900 and 1800 MHz frequency bands were already allocated."
2. Canada, and several countries in South America followed USA using 850/1900 because they saw more value in being able to offer network compatibility (read: roaming charges) to USA travelers, than overseas travelers.
3. Networks in North America share the frequencies just like they do in non-North American markets, for example, T-Mobile, and AT&T in the USA operate in the same bands, as do Rogers & Fido in Canada (the fact that Rogers now actually owns Fido is beside the point, they shared the frequency when Fido was owned by Microcell as well). I also happen to know that the USA/Canada markets are sharing the bands fine as well... being a resident of Niagara Falls, Canada... being so close to the Canada/USA border I can give 1st hand experience that depending on where I am, its not unusual for me to pick up the USA networks while in Canada and still being able to see my own. Personally, I believe that some of the USA carriers have purposely put towers as close to the border as possible in an attempt to catch unsuspecting Canadians roaming on their networks even though they have not left the country. I know I had this happen to me before, thankfully Rogers was willing to reverse the charges for me.
The point being, the 900/1800 frequencies were already allocated for other purposes in the USA at the time that some non-North American markets decided on those frequencies. So in reality, you should be blaming those networks/carriers/regulators/governments/etc. for NOT having forward thinking and picking frequencies that they knew ahead of time would not be suitable in the USA.
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To be honest folks, I despise and hate Telstra with every bone in my body (people complain about Microsoft but Telstra is 10 BILLION times WORSE!!!!) so I really don't care about this issue... BUT
1. Telstra does NOT offer the TP on their network or for sale within their shops/resellers
2. HTC have NEVER said or listed the TP as being compatible with the Telstra CrapG Australia-only network
3. HTC have ALWAYS listed the frequencies their phones work on - a NORMAL person would have done due diligence BEFORE spending any money
4. A NORMAL person would know Telstra HAS to be different from the rest of the world*, which means ONLY phones sold by Telstra are known to work on their network.
Basically... YOU stuffed up. It is YOUR fault YOU did not LOOK / LEARN and READ. It is NOT HTC's fault. Next time you consider buying a phone... do your homework!!! Don't blame others for YOUR own mistakes.
Bottom line - you should have purchased the 850Mhz American version as they have just as bad mobile phone systems as Telstra - so they might be compatible. Personally I do not think a software update to the phone will enable and allow the 850Mhz freq to work correctly... because there are two hardware versions of the phone available for sale; one for the 900/1900/2100 and another for the 850.
*Isn't it a shame the REST OF THE WORLD (including Vodafone and Optus in Australia) actually having forward thinking and good networks COMPETITIVELY SHARING the 900/1900/2100 freq's.
NOTE: I do not work for any of the businesses named in this posting... but I do have a Touch Pro that I can use anywhere in the world, including Australia :-D
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Thanks for the informative feedback GTroberts, obviously your one of the PDA users that access you PDA in the city, maybe you would be better of using a PC. There are some people who don’t have a choice about their service provider because they use the PDAs for work and that work involves travelling in country areas, where push email is actually used what it was designed for, travelling! The only service provider that effectively covers the country is Telstra, I know as all other user with Hutchinson-Optus etc-have no coverage whilst I am still receiving phone calls and data. So as much as I don’t like Telstra they have the market-the country market- so loose the tunnel vision. Additionally no one is winging about the non availability of 850, people are asking how do we get it. As for being stupid for buying the Touch Pro in Australia for Telstra, newsflash- every HTC I have brought was compatible prior to the TP, I was on a waiting list with Expansys before it was released or the specification was available, when purchased Expansys never had the fact that it was not compatible with Next G. So when i received the phone I had no idea, as did some other folks on this forum. The fact is that everyone has realised a mistake was made and we are all only searching for solutions. It sounds like your part of the problem and not part of the solution. As for myself I have brought a Dimond and in time I know ROM will be released to upgrade the TP on 850.
20times
Defense for the bad purchase...
I bought the Touch Pro (being an educated Geek) I have purchased almost all of the HTC phones from the european markets because I like the newest in technology (some good some really bad!) Well, this time they threw a curve (I was upgrading from the tilt/kaiser) I didnt see the previous drama about the 850Mhz problem in the Diamond. I have purchased no less than 10 different phones from europe and this was the first time that there was a problem with quad band! My guy that I used to buy them from always told me "quad band bla bla..." lol after wasting almost $1000 US on a phone that sucks unless you send it overseas! I feel for ya brotha!
I dont agree with the fact that everyone is going to know every spec when you buy a phone...I bet you didnt know your phone could function as a disk drive! So what is the sense of "beating up" a guy that just lost/wasted mad money on a phone that SHOULD HAVE WORKED! How much do you think they saved on the "quad band delete" option? 50 cents a phone? I would almost guarantee that it had something to do with ATT! Conversation would have gone something like this....
Ya, uhh...hi, htc? yeah, this is bob the buyer from ATT...Yeah we would like to give you a purchase order for 3 billion dollars of that new phone you have, the touch pro, but I would like to put a stop to all of our customers buying imported phones...do you think you could F**K everyone else and just make the euro released phone not function at full speed over here, you know, not make it as cool as the apple 3G phone that we wasted so much on advertising with? That way "we can be in control of our network" (yeah right) Oh and by the way, we will still sell your phones even though we worship apple...
Just my 2 cents!
Anyone in anywhere besides USA and Australia want a good deal on an "almost new" Touch Pro?
[email protected]
BOOMIN!
Take responsability for your actions
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I bought the Touch Pro (being an educated Geek) I have purchased almost all of the HTC phones from the european markets because I like the newest in technology (some good some really bad!) Well, this time they threw a curve (I was upgrading from the tilt/kaiser) I didnt see the previous drama about the 850Mhz problem in the Diamond. I have purchased no less than 10 different phones from europe and this was the first time that there was a problem with quad band! My guy that I used to buy them from always told me "quad band bla bla..." lol after wasting almost $1000 US on a phone that sucks unless you send it overseas! I feel for ya brotha!
I dont agree with the fact that everyone is going to know every spec when you buy a phone...I bet you didnt know your phone could function as a disk drive! So what is the sense of "beating up" a guy that just lost/wasted mad money on a phone that SHOULD HAVE WORKED! How much do you think they saved on the "quad band delete" option? 50 cents a phone? I would almost guarantee that it had something to do with ATT! Conversation would have gone something like this....
Ya, uhh...hi, htc? yeah, this is bob the buyer from ATT...Yeah we would like to give you a purchase order for 3 billion dollars of that new phone you have, the touch pro, but I would like to put a stop to all of our customers buying imported phones...do you think you could F**K everyone else and just make the euro released phone not function at full speed over here, you know, not make it as cool as the apple 3G phone that we wasted so much on advertising with? That way "we can be in control of our network" (yeah right) Oh and by the way, we will still sell your phones even though we worship apple...
Just my 2 cents!
Anyone in anywhere besides USA and Australia want a good deal on an "almost new" Touch Pro?
[email protected]
BOOMIN!
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Please, don't blame others for your lack of care.
If you are buying a 1000 bucks phone you should check it's specs before closing the deal, specially if you're bringing it overseas.
In fact, when buiyng technology articles/products, you should search all the info about them, specially previews/reviews about it, in order to don't end up with something not suit for the use you intend it to.
And just because in your prior buys you didn't have a problem like the one you face now it doesn't mean you did right before.
No, on your other buys I were lucky despite being as careless.
So, stop crying and take responsability for your actions!
You did wrong, not the guys who made the phone nor the one's who sold it to you! You were careless and this time you were out of luck.
Live with it and learn your lesson: be carefull on your next buys, get all the product info before buiyng!
I assure you the chances of getting something different from what you expected will be close to zero.
That's it, I hope this post helps educating some "geeks" and whoever is interested and as well puts some shame on the careless whiners around the forums.
Lastly, sorry for going off topic, but it appeared to be the right thing to do at this time.
Cheers to all.
P.S.: Mods, please close this thread, the question has been answered and the subject is already covered around the forums as well.
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I bought the Touch Pro (being an educated Geek) I have purchased almost all of the HTC phones from the european markets because I like the newest in technology (some good some really bad!) Well, this time they threw a curve (I was upgrading from the tilt/kaiser) I didnt see the previous drama about the...
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I do know my cellphone can work as a disk drive, does it make me an educated Geek as well?? lol
I need to point out, you do not necessarily know every spec of a phone that you are about to spend thousand dollars to purchase. It's something up to you to decide. However, while you encounter a problem, do not blame the manufacture of the phone while they've already stated the working frequency of the phone on their website and even other places have the information as well. Could you really blame that??
I personally do not think that Expansys needs to clearly put "does not support Telstra's Next-G network" in words since if you are such a person who is willing to make a purchase out of such a "RIPOFF" website for a 1st hand experience for a newest tech gadget, you should know technology stuff really well, from inside out. So it really makes yourself to be the only one responsible for such an outcome. Unless Expansys or HTC mistakenly stated that the phone (Raphael 100) worked on UMTS850MHz, then you should really blame on Expansys, or HTC. Other than that, good luck.
Well, itz just my 2 cents.
all you can do now is selling your phone and go grab a US version one. mine works pretty well.
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3G no Next G
I live in a regional area (Next G, not 3G), but when I visited Perth last week, I was able to pick up Telstra3G on my HTC Touch Pro.
It was on AUTO band select so I don't know which frequency it picked up on. I'm runnin [email protected] v1.40 WWE, radio 1.02.25.32.
Still, my mate can pickup the NextG network on his Diamond, but I can't on my pro
I'm no expert but I was of the understanding is that the Raph and Diamond share most of the same hardware. I've seen on the Raph Radio Thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439566 that you can use a Diamond Radio on the Touch Pro (as long as you Security Unlock first). I'm on the 3 network (so I can watch the cricket ) so I can't test for you but I think flashing with a one of Telstra Diamond Radios might be worth a try. I've tried checking the wiki to see which Radio comes with the current Diamond from Telstra but the info doesn't seem to be there. You may need to trawl the Diamond forums to see what version others are using.
Hello all. After trolling the forums for hours, I am still unsure where we are at with all this. Could someone please advise if there is a solution to using a Touch Pro on the Telstra 3G network? Thanks in advance.
it works on telstra 3G edge and gprs but not telstra next G. 3g coverage for telstra is poor. they promote next g.
Hello folks.
Well, who among you can explain me technically about the diference between Xperia's Official ROMs version "a" and "i"? Are there a software or hardware direfence between them?
appreciate your future help!
Sony generally speaking will name devices with an "a" at the end for US market and "i" for international market. (e.g. I used to have a W200i. In US, this same phone was the W200a). There is probably not a huge difference in software versions, but it'd most likely be safest to stick to ones for your specific device.
EDIT: (For the record, the W200 was not an Android phone, this was a few years back before Sony (Sony Ericsson at the time) really adopted Android, and it was a budget phone anyway. However I do believe I installed a US version of the firmware on it without issues - but it Android is a far more advanced OS than what that phone had obviously)
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Sony generally speaking will name devices with an "a" at the end for US market and "i" for international market. (e.g. I used to have a W200i. In US, this same phone was the W200a). There is probably not a huge difference in software versions, but it'd most likely be safest to stick to ones for your specific device.
EDIT: (For the record, the W200 was not an Android phone, this was a few years back before Sony (Sony Ericsson at the time) really adopted Android, and it was a budget phone anyway. However I do believe I installed a US version of the firmware on it without issues - but it Android is a far more advanced OS than what that phone had obviously)
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Tx bro 4 answer, but in fact i need information about Xperia's Official Roms, coz i read there are problems with frecuency band ii is true?
I need information pls!!!
SteBanVe said:
Tx bro 4 answer, but in fact i need information about Xperia's Official Roms, coz i read there are problems with frecuency band ii is true?
I need information pls!!!
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There could be issues, different countries use different frequencies of radio waves for mobile networks. Although I'd have thought pretty much every Android phone would be at least tri-band if not quad-band, meaning they support all the commonly used frequencies. So in theory, for example, a US and a European phone should both be tri/quad band and therefore be capable of using the same 3/4 frequencies, so it shouldn't make a difference. However, I have no experience, I'm just guessing here. Probably not best to take this as even close to fact
Hmmm, ok i have a question
For example, i'm from one of America's Country, where 3G connection works good, so i buy a Xperia Play version "A" (R800a) , coz "a" version works with 3G connection, then i decided flash it with "i" version (R800i)...
The question is: With "I" version (R800i), does 3G connection work like a "a" version R800a ?
In fact, will 3G connection also work good with R800i ("i" version)?
In fact, If i flash with R800i ROM in my R800a phone, do i lost 3G connection? and if i'm from europe, if i flash my R800i phone with a R800a ROM, do i win 3G connection???
i do this questions because a lot of people said that isn't there difference, and it is a hardware problem and no software problem? is it true? Helpppppppp
Thanks for ur future answer!!!
Can any moderator move this thread to Sony Mobile Area?
I need more asnwres and expirience about it
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Hello,
I have an AT&T i777 rooted running Shostock2 and I am looking to buy the international version for my daughter. Trying to separate from my contract lockup with AT&T.
What exactly is the difference between the different 9100 models (G, T, etc), and is there a better one among them? I want the most reliable one (in case the different processors makes any difference in that regard) and also one that would allow rooting and custom ROMs.
Also, it needs to work with any U.S. carrier at the highest speed that they offer. I saw one on eBay but it says "Will not work with T-Mobile or Simple Mobile 3G/4G speeds" and I am not sure why.
Thanks in advance.
Imo u'd decide to get i9100G as it powered by TI OMAP SoC which mostly being open sourced to support better & early development. But if u want it to come with NFC featured i9100P is.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_II
I wonder how much of a "deal breaker" should NFC capability be. Looks like it is very difficult to find a P model in the US. I could probably go with T-Mobile one but from what I read it is a bit inferior to the AT&T and International models.
Then again - what if I do want the T-Mobile's 4G speeds....tough decision
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I wonder how much of a "deal breaker" should NFC capability be. Looks like it is very difficult to find a P model in the US. I could probably go with T-Mobile one but from what I read it is a bit inferior to the AT&T and International models.
Then again - what if I do want the T-Mobile's 4G speeds....tough decision
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NFC=android beam, mobile cc payments, transferring files by tapping.
And maybe speed will also sacrifices power (batt), like 2G vs 3G/H+..
Intl i9100 maybe ur easy deal but maybe 2nd P var.? Ebay?
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Adam Hui said:
NFC=android beam, mobile cc payments, transferring files by tapping.
And maybe speed will also sacrifices power (batt), like 2G vs 3G/H+..
Intl i9100 maybe ur easy deal but maybe 2nd P var.? Ebay?
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What is "2nd P Var.?" I am looking at eBay, almost impossible to find P on eBay for selling/shipping to U.S.
I meant second hand stuff buddy, sorry..
Just forget s2.. why don't u be patience & wait for lg or sony nexus4 as it's next Google golden boy. U'll taste pure aosp & find the updates dancing in ur phone w/o brand or carrier resistance..
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Adam Hui said:
I meant second hand stuff buddy, sorry..
Just forget s2.. why don't u be patience & wait for lg or sony nexus4 as it's next Google golden boy. U'll taste pure aosp & find the updates dancing in ur phone w/o brand or carrier resistance..
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Well, first of all, it's for my daughter, not me , she is the one who needs to be patient. But her old phone (Samsung Solstice 2, which is a piece of crap) is dying, it gets stuck all the time, turns off by itself, etc. She needs a new phone.
Second, I am not a big fan of Sony phones and/or LG phones. We had LG before (not a smart phone) and it was too a piece of crap. I am 100% convinced that in recent years, when the Smart Phones started to become so popular and companies started making so much money off of data plans, the manufacturers deliberately made the 'dumb' phones crappy, there is no other explanation for it.
I believe that Samsung and HTC are the best phones in the market these days (Android), not really sure I could like a 'Sony'.
sbi1 said:
Hello,
I have an AT&T i777 rooted running Shostock2 and I am looking to buy the international version for my daughter. Trying to separate from my contract lockup with AT&T.
What exactly is the difference between the different 9100 models (G, T, etc), and is there a better one among them? I want the most reliable one (in case the different processors makes any difference in that regard) and also one that would allow rooting and custom ROMs.
Also, it needs to work with any U.S. carrier at the highest speed that they offer. I saw one on eBay but it says "Will not work with T-Mobile or Simple Mobile 3G/4G speeds" and I am not sure why.
Thanks in advance.
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You have a few options, but just keep in mind that the standard i9100 has the largest userbase, the most external support, and the quickest official updates from Samsung. In fact, these "similar yet different" models of the first Galaxy S were the first to lose official support. The i9100p may sound nice with NFC, but one feature isn't worth potentially losing out on updates. The i9100G uses a lesser version of the SOC found in the Galaxy Nexus. Unless the storage is a concern, the Galaxy Nexus would be a better (and cheaper) option in this case.
So, that leaves you with the vanilla GT-I9100, and it's still a kick-ass phone IMO. Comes in several colors but black and white are the easiest to find. Bonus if you get the black one, it will work on AT&T's medianet plan, which is truly unlimited data, no throttling, and no wifi hotspot restrictions, and it's $15/mo (or $10/mo if you have unlimited text). I've been using this for the past year and change. Added myself to my wfie's family plan and it cost us $9.99/mo for the line, $10/mo for the data, and that was it. I'm on pace to use over 30GB this month and I don't care
sbi1 said:
Well, first of all, it's for my daughter, not me , she is the one who needs to be patient. But her old phone (Samsung Solstice 2, which is a piece of crap) is dying, it gets stuck all the time, turns off by itself, etc. She needs a new phone.
Second, I am not a big fan of Sony phones and/or LG phones. We had LG before (not a smart phone) and it was too a piece of crap. I am 100% convinced that in recent years, when the Smart Phones started to become so popular and companies started making so much money off of data plans, the manufacturers deliberately made the 'dumb' phones crappy, there is no other explanation for it.
I believe that Samsung and HTC are the best phones in the market these days (Android), not really sure I could like a 'Sony'.
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Nexus=Google phone
Whatever the brands that google has choosen to be a nexus device is android best choice... the only deal breaker is lack of external sdcard supported..
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You could maybe send a PM to a helpful guy called ctomgee.He knows about US phones and could advise you best variant,providers etc.
Once you get a phone,you can then install custom roms etc,which gives the phone a new lease of life.
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You could maybe send a PM to a helpful guy called ctomgee.He knows about US phones and could advise you best variant,providers etc.
Once you get a phone,you can then install custom roms etc,which gives the phone a new lease of life.
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I appreciate the endorsement of my knowledge, but please don't PM me, or encourage others to do so.
sbi1 said:
Hello,
I have an AT&T i777 rooted running Shostock2 and I am looking to buy the international version for my daughter. Trying to separate from my contract lockup with AT&T.
What exactly is the difference between the different 9100 models (G, T, etc), and is there a better one among them? I want the most reliable one (in case the different processors makes any difference in that regard) and also one that would allow rooting and custom ROMs.
Also, it needs to work with any U.S. carrier at the highest speed that they offer. I saw one on eBay but it says "Will not work with T-Mobile or Simple Mobile 3G/4G speeds" and I am not sure why.
Thanks in advance.
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About phones working or not working with T-Mobile in the US, this is why; T-Mobile (at the moment, for their overall network) uses AWS for high-speed mobile data. AWS requires both 1700 mhz and 2100 mhz to get 3g/4g, as it uses one frequency for uplink, and the other for downlink. If one phone is not capable of receiving one of the frequencies, then the best mobile data speed the device will receive is Edge.
Now, they (T-mobile USA) are currently in the process of repurposing the spectrum of the 1900 mhz band they use now for Edge data and voice, to use it for high speed data instead. This will allow some phones that currently only get Edge speeds on T-mobile USA's network to get their "4g" speeds. That includes many of AT&T's phones (if they're unlocked), and the i9100, which receives high speed mobile data on 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 mhz. (notice the missing 1700 - which is why it won't necessarily get high speed on T-mobile USA's network... unless the market you're in has already had the repurposing of the 1900 mhz band)
However, this repurposing has already only happened in a handful of markets, though the rollout is currently underway.
Hope this makes sense.
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Also, about the different I9100 variants - there are minor differences between the I9100, and the variants I9100P/T/M.
The P variant includes NFC, the T variant has a slight variance with the SAR values for the radio (so modems specifically for the T model work best for that model), and the M variant is simply a branded regional variant for the Canadian market (as far as I can tell). The CPU/GPU/SoC are all the same for these 4 variants.
The I9100G has a completely different CPU/GPU/SoC chipset, so firmwares, kernels, and ROMs are NOT compatible between this one variant, and the four listed above. But for most users, the performance between this variant and the others are very similar and comparable.
That said, they all have the same antenna/radio hardware, so what I said above regarding data speeds on T-Mobile USA above applies to all of them. This also means they all work just fine for high speed data on AT&T's network.
Ok tom.
I came in here to add to my previous post about which phones (and why) will/will not work on T-Mobile, but Tom beat me to it, so I'll just simply add this:
If you want 2G/3G/4G now and in the future, get the Galaxy Nexus as it's pentaband.
If you're ok with 2G and don't mind waiting on 3G/4G, get any phone, like the i9100, that supports the 1900mhz band. T-Mobile stated that they anticipate their 1900mhz refarm to conclude in mid-2013 and will cover ALL 229 current AWS HSPA+ markets.
jaykresge said:
Bonus if you get the black one, it will work on AT&T's medianet plan, which is truly unlimited data, no throttling, and no wifi hotspot restrictions, and it's $15/mo (or $10/mo if you have unlimited text). I've been using this for the past year and change.
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OK, can you elaborate on this a bit? What do you mean by "black" one? Is a black I9100 different from a white one other than color?
Also, are you referring to AT&T's 'non-smart phone unlimited plan'?
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Thank you all.
ctomgee said:
I appreciate the endorsement of my knowledge, but please don't PM me, or encourage others to do so.
About phones working or not working with T-Mobile in the US, this is why; T-Mobile (at the moment, for their overall network) uses AWS for high-speed mobile data. AWS requires both 1700 mhz and 2100 mhz to get 3g/4g, as it uses one frequency for uplink, and the other for downlink. If one phone is not capable of receiving one of the frequencies, then the best mobile data speed the device will receive is Edge.
Now, they (T-mobile USA) are currently in the process of repurposing the spectrum of the 1900 mhz band they use now for Edge data and voice, to use it for high speed data instead. This will allow some phones that currently only get Edge speeds on T-mobile USA's network to get their "4g" speeds. That includes many of AT&T's phones (if they're unlocked), and the i9100, which receives high speed mobile data on 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 mhz. (notice the missing 1700 - which is why it won't necessarily get high speed on T-mobile USA's network... unless the market you're in has already had the repurposing of the 1900 mhz band)
However, this repurposing has already only happened in a handful of markets, though the rollout is currently underway.
Hope this makes sense.
EDIT to add:
Also, about the different I9100 variants - there are minor differences between the I9100, and the variants I9100P/T/M.
The P variant includes NFC, the T variant has a slight variance with the SAR values for the radio (so modems specifically for the T model work best for that model), and the M variant is simply a branded regional variant for the Canadian market (as far as I can tell). The CPU/GPU/SoC are all the same for these 4 variants.
The I9100G has a completely different CPU/GPU/SoC chipset, so firmwares, kernels, and ROMs are NOT compatible between this one variant, and the four listed above. But for most users, the performance between this variant and the others are very similar and comparable.
That said, they all have the same antenna/radio hardware, so what I said above regarding data speeds on T-Mobile USA above applies to all of them. This also means they all work just fine for high speed data on AT&T's network.
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Thank you for a broad response. I learned something new!
We don't necessarily want to be on T-Mobile, I mentioned T-Mobile because I want to have options...I don't want to be locked to one carrier and T-Mobile offers a great deal with "bring your own unlocked phone, get a sim card with unlimited text/data". So it was just brought as an option for us to have.
In any case, I did offer a T-Mobile (T989) version to my daughter, she "kindly" refused...she does not want to see any logo on her phone . She also doesn't care much about the NFC, even though this can be 'fixed' through an SD card solution if (as she says) "The government will force you to have NFC..." , so I am now just looking for a good deal on a I9100 version.
BTW - what is the Nexus?! I am not familiar with it at all. Does it also come in branded (AT&T, T-Mobile, etc) as well as unlocked?
Thanks again.
sbi1 said:
what is the Nexus?! I am not familiar with it at all. Does it also come in branded (AT&T, T-Mobile, etc) as well as unlocked?
Thanks again.
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Nexus is the 'pure' android phone. Comes with stock android. No OEM bloatware or UI like Samsung's TouchWiz or HTC's SenseUI.
The biggest advantage of nexus phones however, is that they're the first to get any android update.
And yes, you do get it unlocked as well.
Hope it helps.
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sbi1 said:
Thank you all.
Thank you for a broad response. I learned something new!
We don't necessarily want to be on T-Mobile, I mentioned T-Mobile because I want to have options...I don't want to be locked to one carrier and T-Mobile offers a great deal with "bring your own unlocked phone, get a sim card with unlimited text/data". So it was just brought as an option for us to have.
In any case, I did offer a T-Mobile (T989) version to my daughter, she "kindly" refused...she does not want to see any logo on her phone . She also doesn't care much about the NFC, even though this can be 'fixed' through an SD card solution if (as she says) "The government will force you to have NFC..." , so I am now just looking for a good deal on a I9100 version.
BTW - what is the Nexus?! I am not familiar with it at all. Does it also come in branded (AT&T, T-Mobile, etc) as well as unlocked?
Thanks again.
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As HAXTREME said above. Plus: http://www.google.com/nexus
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OK, can you elaborate on this a bit? What do you mean by "black" one? Is a black I9100 different from a white one other than color?
Also, are you referring to AT&T's 'non-smart phone unlimited plan'?
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I don't know why that guy differentiated between the black i9100 and the white i9100. As far as I know, there shouldn't be a difference between them, unless someone can provide us information otherwise.
EDIT: ah. I was curious and did a search on this. Apparently many have reported that their white i9100 gets flagged as a blackberry by AT&T for some reason, causing a bump in their data plan to the 2Gb tiered data plan. I didn't know this. I find that curious.
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EDIT: ah. I was curious and did a search on this. Apparently many have reported that their white i9100 gets flagged as a blackberry by AT&T for some reason, causing a bump in their data plan to the 2Gb tiered data plan. I didn't know this. I find that curious.
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Interesting. I tried Google for 'difference' between them and didn't see anything. It sounds odd to me, to say the least. Question is - did those who report this issue also had a black one, to compare how AT&T "reads" their phone. Really doesn't make sense, but I am curious too.
Figured I'd come back and answer some questions, but thanks again to Tom for taking care of that To elaborate a bit further:
Whether or not your phone will work on AT&T's medianet plan is determined by whether or not they have loaded the device's IMEI database into their system. If they have, then they can detect your phone and will not allow medianet access. The international SGS3 and the Galaxy Nexus have already been detected. The white i9100 (SGS2) is detected as a Blackberry as it has a different IMEI database than the black or pink models. However, if you do get a device to use with AT&T medianet, understand that they can change this at anytime. Just ask Nexus and SGS3 owners who got caught 2-3 weeks ago
Based on your needs, there are two phones that I would recommend, and here's the links to the recommended purchase places.
Galaxy Nexus ($349)- This is the official Google phone, relatively cheap, always has the latest version of Android. Downside is that is only has 16GB internal storage and no support for MicroSD. 720p screen
Samsung Galaxy SII (black - $470 / white - $530)- The flagship android device from 2011 by most estimates, still a solid phone for today. Comes with 16GB internal, official support for 32GB MicroSD, but will support 64GB MicroSDXC unofficially. , 800x480 screen though. The black one will work on AT&T medianet, white one will not.
If you use on T-Mobile, or a T-Mobile MVNO such as Simple Mobile or Straight Talk w/TMO sim, you will get full 2G/3G/4G access with the Galaxy Nexus (before, during, and after the refarm). As for the SGS2s, you will get full 2G everywhere, but no 3G/4G in areas not yet refarmed. In areas that are refarmed, you will get full 2G/3G/4G. T-Mobile says that the refarming will be complete by mid-2013. You can check the current status of the refarming here:
http://airportal.de/
If you want to get her something top of the line instead of those former-fastest phones, you can look at the SGS3 unlocked, or wait 9 days to see the official unveiling of the new Nexus phone. Who knows, we may even see a $50 price drop on the Galaxy Nexus
As the tilte says I have a broken Sony Xperia Tablet Z SGP321. It freezes constantly and artifacts etc and everything keeps force closing and the device just hard reboots. It's a hardware problem. The closest board replacement I can see is a USA SGP351 and I live in Ireland. Should this just work ok and all that should be different are the LTE bands? My network Meteor uses 800mhz and 1800mhz and I heard USA uses 1700-2000mhz meaning it will probably still work in some areas. I'm not too fussed if it doesn't, but should everything else function correctly if I buy the replacement board Wi-Fi etc?
Thanks in advance.
steocullen91 said:
As the tilte says I have a broken Sony Xperia Tablet Z SGP321. It freezes constantly and artifacts etc and everything keeps force closing and the device just hard reboots. It's a hardware problem. The closest board replacement I can see is a USA SGP351 and I live in Ireland. Should this just work ok and all that should be different are the LTE bands? My network Meteor uses 800mhz and 1800mhz and I heard USA uses 1700-2000mhz meaning it will probably still work in some areas. I'm not too fussed if it doesn't, but should everything else function correctly if I buy the replacement board Wi-Fi etc?
Thanks in advance.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2290179
Also, SGP351 uses slightly different firmware, than SGP321.
Rootk1t said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2290179
Also, SGP351 uses slightly different firmware, than SGP321.
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Alright thanks so the main difference is that I wouldn't be able to use lte. As long as the tablet still works and uses Wi-Fi it's ok. That's the closest motherboard variant I could find on eBay with the only others being the Wi-Fi only. Since mine has the aim slot I was thinking what if the hardware doesn't work properly with a Wi-Fi only board because it's different.
EDIT: The motherboard in it either has failing RAM, EMMC or the GPU is failing. Everything just force closes and it keeps lagging then restarting. It's a bonus to even get the option to have 3G just once it works on Wi-Fi. I took a gamble and bought it faulty for €80 but it looks like the LCD itself is worth that much so it's definitely woth repairing at €85 for that motherboard. I know the Wi-Fi only version uses a different kernel and firmware though the boards look alike apart from the SIM slot and mobile radio antenna etc. but I didn't wanna risk buying a Wi-Fi only oard for this tablet in case something doesn't work properly over it.
Everything else seems fine the speakers, cameras and battery etc.
I bought xperia z5 compact from ebay. I am in Egypt it has lollipop and does not give me update notification. In addition, nfc does not work. When I turn it on it returns off by itself. Please help.
If you are using Windows, download and install the FlashTool (klick) and after that klick on the XPeriFirm (XP) button. There you select your device, country, provider etc. and download the latest firmware. After that you can install it directly.
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If you are using Windows, download and install the FlashTool (klick) and after that klick on the XPeriFirm (XP) button. There you select your device, country, provider etc. and download the latest firmware. After that you can install it directly.
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I downloaded and installed it but when I launch the application and connect the phone to the computer it does not give me any information. So, what is wrong?only written connect a phone or an accessory and on the left inactive words(in grey ) like connected item:, soft ware: and so om.
It's not that easy!
Install FlashTool.
You have to set your windows computer to a mode where it does accept unsigned drivers. Please search the internet how to do that.
You have to install the drivers that are residing in a subdirectory named "drivers" of the FlashTool directory.
You need fastboot, the next one (name forgotten) and sony z5 compact drivers (I hope, I remember the names correctly)
Start FlashTool.
Click on the XP button.
Now XPeriFirm should start. If not, there is no way to get the firmware this way.
Maybe you can download XPeriFirm manually, but that hasn't worked here.
If you do not know what you are doing, you should consult the internet for further answers.
I haven't used FlashTool since a very long time.
So I can't say if it is still working as expected.
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You have to download XPeriFirm from here.
Expand the zip file and copy the file "XperiFirm-x64.exe" (or "XperiFirm-x86.exe", if you are working in a 32 bit environment) as "XperiFirm.exe" to the folder <users>/<your_user_name>/.flashTool
Then the XF button in FlashTool is working (see attached pictures)
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You have to download XPeriFirm from here.
Expand the zip file and copy the file "XperiFirm-x64.exe" (or "XperiFirm-x86.exe", if you are working in a 32 bit environment) as "XperiFirm.exe" to the folder <users>/<your_user_name>/.flashTool
Then the XF button in FlashTool is working (see attached pictures)
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Thanks a lot for your kind reply. I want to understand why is my xperia z5 compact which I bought last month from ebay as new unlocked ( running lollipop) keeps displaying the message your device is up to date when I check for updates through setting/about phone/ software updates. Whereas there are two updates officially launched which is android 6 then android 7.1.1. by sony. And how to manually makes these updates? Thanks in advance
Maybe you've bought a device is cannot be updated? I really don't know.
NFC is there or not.... but with punched sony z5 compacts from china / hong kong nfc will not work same as LTE 800 MHz 20 you will be out of signal.... your imei is not 35428207...... Iam Sure....
M1cr0n Cell said:
NFC is there or not.... but with punched sony z5 compacts from china / hong kong nfc will not work same as LTE 800 MHz 20 you will be out of signal.... your imei is not 35428207...... Iam Sure....
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Thank you. You are right. But is LTE does not work at all in this case or partially? And is there any solution for this problem like a third party application or any solution? Thanks in advance.
M1cr0n Cell said:
NFC is there or not.... but with punched sony z5 compacts from china / hong kong nfc will not work same as LTE 800 MHz 20 you will be out of signal.... your imei is not 35428207...... Iam Sure....
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I hope to find a solution especially for Nfc. Thank you
LTE will work.... but not 800MHz LTE Band 20. Instead, there is LTE Band 19, which is used only in Japan. LTE 1800MHz band 3 , 2100MHz Band 1 or 2600MHz Band 7 will work. Problem is signal outer the Cities.... in the Villages, operators use only 800MHz LTE there.... better area 4 signal distribution than 1800 and 2100MHz.
So you will have signal in the city.... but maybe nothing at a cottage... or you will loose signal on the road.
you can check this Czech program, at googleplay, yes it´s Czech made free and perfect- no ads, and you see in the log or real-time where are you are or have been connected.... frequencies and lots of datas.... i love this programme. I am not sure if it woks abroad.... but it should.... or try some simmilar program.
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NFCs antennas are not included, in japanese models, they were not-available, and I think in some pieces they are added....but they still will not work, because some restriction still is there in Cracked-rooted Firmware E5823 something japanese is still there So no if you want NFC, LTE 800.... buy used Z5 compact from original distribution. I have 3 new pieces now like a new, I have refubrished them by myself.... Like a new Original Sony LCDs original sony batteries, original IMEI motherboards, original sony case interior. Just perfect. Mine hobby.
I would like to use NFC for opening doors in the garage instead of chip on the keys.... it should work, but don´t know "how to."... maybe it is possible If i want to take money from ATM, there is NFC lock on doors, if i acivate NFC, it opens the doors it is good But how to open doors with NFC in da house....
I must ask somebody if it is possible.... I like openning the doors with NFC I dont use it for payment, but for opening the doors
I have lost the keys one day in a car, and doors locked.... 2:00 AM WTF! I had to get out of the garrage and knocked on someones window 2:00 AM freezing..... please help me This NFC unlocking should be very very good in this situation. I had to little crash the doors to get to the garrage and mine keys
I dont know if NFC or some programme can copy datas from key chip..... maybe YES?
It would be great.....NFC chip clone.... hmmmmm
M1cr0n Cell said:
LTE will work.... but not 800MHz LTE Band 20. Instead, there is LTE Band 19, which is used only in Japan. LTE 1800MHz band 3 , 2100MHz Band 1 or 2600MHz Band 7 will work. Problem is signal outer the Cities.... in the Villages, operators use only 800MHz LTE there.... better area 4 signal distribution than 1800 and 2100MHz.
So you will have signal in the city.... but maybe nothing at a cottage... or you will loose signal on the road.
you can check this Czech program, at googleplay, yes it´s Czech made free and perfect- no ads, and you see in the log or real-time where are you are or have been connected.... frequencies and lots of datas.... i love this programme. I am not sure if it woks abroad.... but it should.... or try some simmilar program.
NetMonster – Aplikace na Google Play
Aplikace pro monitorování mobilní sítě
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NFCs antennas are not included, in japanese models, they were not-available, and I think in some pieces they are added....but they still will not work, because some restriction still is there in Cracked-rooted Firmware E5823 something japanese is still there So no if you want NFC, LTE 800.... buy used Z5 compact from original distribution. I have 3 new pieces now like a new, I have refubrished them by myself.... Like a new Original Sony LCDs original sony batteries, original IMEI motherboards, original sony case interior. Just perfect. Mine hobby.
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Is the fingerprint working in the models you have? As it was stated that the fingerprint is not available in the US market. If they are like new exactly and have all the features work, I want to buy a black colored one so what is the price?
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Is the fingerprint working in the models you have? As it was stated that the fingerprint is not available in the US market. If they are like new exactly and have all the features work, I want to buy a black colored one so what is the price?
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So there is no solution for the nfc problem?
M1cr0n Cell said:
LTE will work.... but not 800MHz LTE Band 20. Instead, there is LTE Band 19, which is used only in Japan. LTE 1800MHz band 3 , 2100MHz Band 1 or 2600MHz Band 7 will work. Problem is signal outer the Cities.... in the Villages, operators use only 800MHz LTE there.... better area 4 signal distribution than 1800 and 2100MHz.
So you will have signal in the city.... but maybe nothing at a cottage... or you will loose signal on the road.
you can check this Czech program, at googleplay, yes it´s Czech made free and perfect- no ads, and you see in the log or real-time where are you are or have been connected.... frequencies and lots of datas.... i love this programme. I am not sure if it woks abroad.... but it should.... or try some simmilar program.
NetMonster – Aplikace na Google Play
Aplikace pro monitorování mobilní sítě
play.google.com
NFCs antennas are not included, in japanese models, they were not-available, and I think in some pieces they are added....but they still will not work, because some restriction still is there in Cracked-rooted Firmware E5823 something japanese is still there So no if you want NFC, LTE 800.... buy used Z5 compact from original distribution. I have 3 new pieces now like a new, I have refubrished them by myself.... Like a new Original Sony LCDs original sony batteries, original IMEI motherboards, original sony case interior. Just perfect. Mine hobby.
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But as I understand, this is not Japanese version , i.e this is not SO-02H, but it is E5823 as you know. In the japanese version SO-02H, there is no NFC as indicated in the specs. Mine has NFC, I doenloaded app to check and it said yes support NFC. I have NFC icon but does not turn on. When I turn it on , it gets gry and then returns off. So, still do not understand why NFC does not work? And is there a solution for this problem?
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So there is no solution for the nfc problem?
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elbakhshawangy said:
So there is no solution for the nfc problem?
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So, can I use NFC while it is turnning off?. As it is exist and the antenna exists. and if I understands well from your reply, it is a software issues in the japanese fixed program. If yes how can I fix this? Can I use the NFC while it is off? and in what applications? I want to aslo ask if the one I have is not original?. My imei is :354187076594552. Thank you for your kind help.
A weird thing is when I enter to Google the IMEI to check it will say z5 not Z5 compact. So, I am very confused, I bought it new from ebay.
elbakhshawangy said:
Is the fingerprint working in the models you have? As it was stated that the fingerprint is not available in the US market. If they are like new exactly and have all the features work, I want to buy a black colored one so what is the price?
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Hello, fingerprint we have from the beginning since 2015 in EU I don´t understand why in US it was not available.... My brain doesnot takes it maybe mafia cutting fingers in US italian style... but models sold in Italy are with finger print sensor I am sure... Maybe some one from Sony in Japan knows, why US don´t have fingerprint sensors activated... or why they are deactivated
I have 3 white like a new, now i want to rebuild 4.th piece.... No black. Only Whites, because black doesnot matter only white are perfect.... Im joking....but yes only white packs are original SONY. Blacks are copies.
frames complete with lcd and glass by SONY, so i dont need to be ****ed with glue problem. There are only white megapacks available in EU- frame+ lcd + screen glued from Sony. And sorry it is not possible to send it to USA,
duties and taxes are BIG comedy in EU....
elbakhshawangy said:
So there is no solution for the nfc problem?
But as I understand, this is not Japanese version , i.e this is not SO-02H, but it is E5823 as you know. In the japanese version SO-02H, there is no NFC as indicated in the specs. Mine has NFC, I doenloaded app to check and it said yes support NFC. I have NFC icon but does not turn on. When I turn it on , it gets gry and then returns off. So, still do not understand why NFC does not work? And is there a solution for this problem?
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Open back doors.... easily... watch back side..... both hands ready and right hand push front frame, left hand push backwards..frame.. push... and use nail or something... when you see space, i start near camera---- guitar pick and open the phone from back.... glue will work after... no problem.... if you make it clever.... pop it up... and there must be NFC antenna on batery.... sticked.... if not, you dont have NFC
toothpick also works fine when you want to enter Z5c from behind bambooo quality toothpick-not copies easy rotate... with toothpick down .... and it will open if there is not NFC antenna, you can be sure, you are not first who opened this phone A: it is SO-02H cracked to E5823 so without NFC, or B: someone stole it whed changed batery.... and destroyed it
I know it is difficult to remove NFC antenna for the first time. when you want get to the motherboard and everything...... you will destroy it.... I know... it si not easy for first time to pop it off.... I have destroyed one- .... but I know.... Now i Know....needle you need to take NFC off the batery, but you must be very very carefull
If you disassamble NFC.... okey you can reassamble Z5 compact complete... disassamble NFC is first difficult step, and not easy.
I am sure, you don´t have NFC upon batery.... it is missing.... so that´s what I think.... software says you have, real hardware check says no you dont have NFC man