My phone started dieing overnight and I was really confused because I could've sworn I had a lot of like left when I went to bed. So I did a test tonight...
Charged to 100% at 10:30pm
All background application closed, ram cleared
Wifi and GPS off
Results: after 8.5 hours of doing nothing, I lost over 75% battery.
Screenshots are below...WTF is happening with my phone?
Looks like something is keeping it from deep sleep. Download cpuspy and see if that is the case. When you click on phone stand by what does it say?
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Mad383Max said:
Looks like something is keeping it from deep sleep. Download cpuspy and see if that is the case. When you click on phone stand by what does it say?
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It just says Time on 8h XXm XXs
Looks like Google talk is keeping it awake. Never used GT before so not sure if that is normal. I am having similar (but not as drastic) with ms exchange keeping mine in awake state. I am using ics alpha 2 Rom and did not have this issue on stock GB. What Rom are you using?
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It also looks like your cell signal isn't all that great so it's constantly pinging. Not sure about that though. Do you need data all the time? I use 2x battery so it severs data. Saves a **** ton of battery life.
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I noticed the Google Talk but I never use it, and it's installed on my phone, but I can find a way to uninstall it anywhere. It also doesn't give me an option to log out either.
Oh and I'm running the ICS alpha 2 ROM. I don't recall having this problem with GB.
I use the ICS -1 Click Odin leak (In progress of getting a better ICS loaded) but I have noticed that I run into a lot of Battery life problems when I am sleeping... If I leave my phone unplugged overnight it always dies, I have to charge it. It's weird... Because I can be on it all day with amazing Battery life, then it just dies over night with a full charge of not even being in use...
I probably need to run some analytics to see what is killing it in the first place... I always force close my apps though...
This happens on any OS, GB, or ICS...
jjc5891 said:
I noticed the Google Talk but I never use it, and it's installed on my phone, but I can find a way to uninstall it anywhere. It also doesn't give me an option to log out either.
Oh and I'm running the ICS alpha 2 ROM. I don't recall having this problem with GB.
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I had the same problem which is why I went back to GB. Remember this is an ATT leak of an unfinished ROM. they have all sorts of unfinished code and debugging running that it's bound to cause these issues.
schrochem said:
It also looks like your cell signal isn't all that great so it's constantly pinging. Not sure about that though. Do you need data all the time? I use 2x battery so it severs data. Saves a **** ton of battery life.
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BINGO!!! Just checked some screen capture from battery stats from GB and my cell strength was no ways near as bad as it is on ICS. Need to see if any fixes are out there. It almost all tan for signal strength on ICS vs all green in GB. Same locales for both samples.
by the way, i was getting between 1 day to 1.5 days on rooted GB oc'd to 1.84 with 4 hours screen time. Did not ever see exchange using any noticeable % of battery. Now getting 15 hours with 2 hours screen time and exchange using 6% of the battery. Not going back yet because the pro's out weigh the con's.
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Well that would suck if the ICS radio is a step backwards over the GB radio....
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Yep, it seems like the partial wakelocks are getting you.
It will go into deep sleep but then go up to 384 off and on.
Gtalk looks like the biggest culprit.
Like I said if data is off it shouldn't have wakelocks.
Another test you could do tonight is the exact same but put it in airplane mode.
It shouldn't budge much.....
I managed to find a way to log out of google talk, so I'll test it under the same conditions tonight to see if that changes anything.
Airplane mode overnight is not an option for me since I need cell service in case of emergency calls. Generally, I do notice slightly worse reception of the previous GB ROM, so the modem might be questionable.
jjc5891 said:
I managed to find a way to log out of google talk, so I'll test it under the same conditions tonight to see if that changes anything.
Airplane mode overnight is not an option for me since I need cell service in case of emergency calls. Generally, I do notice slightly worse reception of the previous GB ROM, so the modem might be questionable.
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Understood about the calls. You can get calls and texts without data though. That's why I was recommending 2x battery which is like juice defender I think. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.a0soft.gphone.aDataOnOff&hl=en
I realized I really don't need data unless I 'want' data. I do push my emails but they won't push until I turn on data. Saves a lot of battery, especially when on LTE.....
It works well for me because you can set a delay for the data. So you can turn on your screen (not unlock) and see if you got any new texts. If not, put it back in my pocket. All without data coming on. I do these quick checks all time...
Then there is a delay time you can set after you unlock.
I have mine set to 3 min. If I do get a text, I will unlock, read it and maybe respond quickly, then put it back in my pocket. As long as its not mms that's all done without data.
If I need to get data prior to the 3min there is a notification to connect the data.
I'm coming from the thunderbolt and we had to REALLY find all the tricks to save battery life. As it given to us by HTC and Verizon it was unacceptable.
At any rate, sorry for the wind there. If you're wondering, I have no association with 2X battery. I just like to spread the word when I find an app that is useful and has helped me out.
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Understood about the calls. You can get calls and texts without data though. That's why I was recommending 2x battery which is like juice defender I think. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.a0soft.gphone.aDataOnOff&hl=en
I realized I really don't need data unless I 'want' data. I do push my emails but they won't push until I turn on data. Saves a lot of battery, especially when on LTE.....
It works well for me because you can set a delay for the data. So you can turn on your screen (not unlock) and see if you got any new texts. If not, put it back in my pocket. All without data coming on. I do these quick checks all time...
Then there is a delay time you can set after you unlock.
I have mine set to 3 min. If I do get a text, I will unlock, read it and maybe respond quickly, then put it back in my pocket. As long as its not mms that's all done without data.
If I need to get data prior to the 3min there is a notification to connect the data.
I'm coming from the thunderbolt and we had to REALLY find all the tricks to save battery life. As it given to us by HTC and Verizon it was unacceptable.
At any rate, sorry for the wind there. If you're wondering, I have no association with 2X battery. I just like to spread the word when I find an app that is useful and has helped me out.
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I used to use juice defender but a couple things were a deal breaker for me:
1) First was that it rendered Cerberus almost completely useless. I could not get the phone to connect using the web interface at cerberusapp.com since the phone had no data with the screen off. Sure I could have used the SMS method of activation, but I don't have another phone to text from and it just isn't as flexible as the website.
2) Every time I unlocked the phone, I had to wait 10+ seconds for data to fully reconnect before I can start using stuff. When I unlock the phone, it's usually to check something very quick, and if I'm stuck waiting, I'd rather suffer the battery loss than to wait a bunch of times.
I suspect every battery saver app has this issue, and they can probably be configured to work to my needs, but I just don't have the time and patience to be tinkering with stuff like that.
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I used to use juice defender but a couple things were a deal breaker for me:
1) First was that it rendered Cerberus almost completely useless. I could not get the phone to connect using the web interface at cerberusapp.com since the phone had no data with the screen off. Sure I could have used the SMS method of activation, but I don't have another phone to text from and it just isn't as flexible as the website.
2) Every time I unlocked the phone, I had to wait 10+ seconds for data to fully reconnect before I can start using stuff. When I unlock the phone, it's usually to check something very quick, and if I'm stuck waiting, I'd rather suffer the battery loss than to wait a bunch of times.
I suspect every battery saver app has this issue, and they can probably be configured to work to my needs, but I just don't have the time and patience to be tinkering with stuff like that.
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JD Ultimate has an option that allows foreground apps to force enable/disable data, which is an easy thing to set. Also, my experience with JD is that data reconnects as soon as I unlock the phone and before I can launch an app. Battery saver apps are definitely frustrating, but I find that the correct settings fix 95% of the annoyances.
I hear ya on the time thing. Just thought I'd over up that tidbit. I don't seem to have much of a delay. 2x does allow for whitelisting apps you want to run like Pandora.
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Google Talk is like any other VoiP service, it will have a heartbeat that needs to talk back to the mothership every so many seconds.
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Google Talk is like any other VoiP service, it will have a heartbeat that needs to talk back to the mothership every so many seconds.
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Yup, that's exactly why I don't want it. If I rarely/never use the app, I don't want it constantly connected wasting my battery and data. I wish there was an easy way to turn that off. I've been reading on Google and there were posts from 1-2 years ago that said signing out of gtalk doesn't help with the wakelock, so we shall see tonight when I test it again.
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Yup, that's exactly why I don't want it. If I rarely/never use the app, I don't want it constantly connected wasting my battery and data. I wish there was an easy way to turn that off. I've been reading on Google and there were posts from 1-2 years ago that said signing out of gtalk doesn't help with the wakelock, so we shall see tonight when I test it again.
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Actually, there is (sort of). Purchase an app called Autostarts on the market. Open it, wait for it to finish loading, hit the menu button, then tap the 'group by application' option.
Then, scroll thru the list to Google Talk and tap it. This will expand a bunch of different conditions that Google Talk automatically starts under. Disabling every condition will cause the app to never automatically start in the background (but the app will still launch if you manually launch it). Since I dont currently have root, I cant see what the conditions are, but you might need to leave one or two enabled if you need to receive incoming calls.
Reboot your phone after making any changes.
I should also mention that if you manually launch the app, you need to remember to manually close the app if this is what you assume is causing the battery drain.
If nothing else, you can use Autostarts to help determine if Gtalk is what is causing the issue by just disabling everything for it and watching battery drain rate.
I also use another app called Battery Widget Pro by 3c which will tell you everything about the battery and what exactly is causing it to drain.
What I would do is disable everything unless it looks like its something for receiving calls (if you need to receive calls that is) and reboot the phone, then test it by using another phone to call your Google # and make sure it works.
The point is tho to disable everything you can. I personally use Autostarts to disable every user app that doesnt either have a widget or a scheduled process that needs to run in the background to perform its task. Helps a crap ton with battery life.
So looks like signing out of google talk did not help anything looking at more detail in the better battery stats it might be google maps that's causing all the wakeups
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This thread that I've revamped from my Evo 4G days, hoping to share some of the love with newer users. Over the time I've been on android, I've learned a few simple things that can greatly assist in the battery life of our wonderful smartphones.
If you read the thread and like the tips, have a new one to suggest, or have a revision, please post it.
On a similar note, moderators, thanks for the sticky!
General Lithium Ion Battery Information
^^This link includes stuff about charging, including trickle charging aka SBC (Why NOT to use it, or at your own peril)
My tips for good battery life:
Tips for Non-Rooted users
1. Turn off all radios when not in use.
(gps, Bluetooth, wifi, data, 4g) Use a widget like the default HTC power widget, Switchpro, or a similar app from the market. The 3D's updated Sense 3.0 allows users to access these radios and other settings from the notification pulldown menu, , under the "Quick Settings" tab. The radios of the phone draw power if on even if the user isn't actually utilizing the radio's functions. A radio searching for signal (if you are in a low-signal area) drains more than a radio with good signal, so again, turn 'em off when you aren't using 'em.
To manually turn off radios without a toggle, go to menu>settings>wireless & networks.
Wifi uses less battery than 3G, so use wifi when you can.
2. Juice Defender is one of my favorite apps. Basically it controls your data for you to maximize life.
More explanations are on their page, search it on the market for free, or upgrade for more features.
Here are my settings for it: Click me
Note that for me at least, juice defender likes to deny apps data privileges whether you allow them or not, so screen on = data on works best for me.
3. I love live wallpapers, and I’ve always been a fan of pixel zombies, but they are really only good for showing off due to their battery drain.
4. Go to menu<settings<wireless & networks<mobile networks<disable always on mobile data.
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To clarify, "Always On Mobile Data", when turned off, lets the 3G modem go to sleep after the screen has been off for 5 minutes. It doesn't interfere with anything like email or any other application that requires an internet connection at that moment because it turns on on-demand rather than being on all the time and wasting battery.
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5. Set your screen timeout to something that fits you.
This will prevent your phone from staying on when you don’t manually turn off the screen. Also with this, manually turn off your screen when you’re done with your phone.
Menu>Settings>Display>Screen Timeout
I use 30 seconds.
6. Task killers used to be the shiz, but no longer.
Here is the ultimate, in depth, graphically assisted, explanation by the famous Fresh ROM's chef, Flipz. Shortly, in light of recent testing, really don’t do anything but force apps that the android OS needed to be open, and thus didn’t close, to re-open. So try not using them, unless for stuff like trying to figure out why your phone isn’t sleeping with system panel. You really won’t notice a performance difference, and the adverse effects you aren’t seeing will stop
+=+ A good alternative is the application SystemPanel Pro. It has a free version, but I highly reccomend purchasing the paid app. It basically monitors everything going on with your phone's usage both in real time an in terms of usage history. If your battery is draiging fast, it tells you what app was doing it, how much it was doing it, and allows you to stop it.
7. I'm sure you have all heard around that your phone isn't "sleeping".
This is referring to the phone's "awake" time, hence the name. When you go to Menu>Settings>About Phone>Battery, you can compare the two numbers, "up time" vs. "awake time." Generally, up time refers to the amount of time since the last reboot. The "awake time" is how long the screen has been active. The problem is, a lot of the time, due to the endless possibilities of inconsistencies between apps/ROMs/kernels/phones, the phone will not go to "sleep", drawing power proportionate to the screen being in use when it reality the phone is sitting idle.
If you compare these numbers, and they are the same, or if you note the difference, turn off the screen for a minute, then re-check and they are the same, then your phone is not sleeping.
One solution is to reboot.
Usually, SystemPanel will show an app that has gone "rouge" and is keeping your phone awake.
-This is done by hitting menu>settings>monitoring enabled. Then after some time has passed, ht menu>monitoring>history>change tab to top apps, and see if anything is above, say, 2-4%.
Uninstall applications/reinstalling them slowly, checking after every install to see what is causing it is one tedious but surefire solution.
Lastly,
Follow these steps that I have discovered almost always work.
1. Reboot phone.
2. Instantly upon reboot, as soon as you gain control, open up some type of monitor/taskkiller
3. "kill all" tasks on startup; about 5 times in quick succession should do the trick.
4. Turn off the screen and leave it for about five minutes.
5. Check the up time v. awake time and see if they are the same.
6. If they are, repeat steps 1-5. If they are different, you are good.
8. Our good friend sn0b0ard noticed that the 3D's battery contacts *could* be problematic.
Here's a link to his thread, but basically he explains how the leads to the battery can be kind of loose, which potentially can cause random reboots (if the contacts separate) and/or slow charging. The fix is simple: slide some paper or a piece of a rubber band between the battery and the wall opposite the leads. Toss him a thanks if it helps you out
9. Apps and Combinations to watch out for!
-Facebook for HTC Sense- Tries to sync live feed all the time, HIGHLY recommend unchecking this box, as it creates a massive draw on data
-Skype- This app reportedly (I've seen it myself) likes to sync random data and open up the network for fun. Sign out of app when not in use to fix
Root Tips LIVE
Tips for Rooted users:
1. Try out custom kernels.
By going to the EVO 3D Android Development section of the forums, you can see all of the different kernels being developed. These allow for all kinds of modifications like underclocking the CPU and undervolting, both of which save battery. To see how to use them, read the FAQ's in each thread's OPs.
Here is a great guide to custom kernel's by mroneeyedboh.
2. Use SetCPU in compliance with whatever your custom kernel allows.
This site will explain the basics of SetCPU: http://www.setcpu.com/
-Profiles from SetCPU should usually involve these for battery life optimization:
-Screen off at the minimum clock speed for both, with the max raised on level if sluggishness is apparent
-A temperature greater than “X”
-General power related profiles that lower cpu speed at lower battery levels
-Here are my SetCPU profiles: 1 , 2 , 3
-My profiles change a lot as time goes by, because different kernel creators recommend different settings. I suggest reading up on whatever kernel you are using to gather settings.
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NOTES:
*Some apps or processes begin to run at startup and keep the phone awake. These apps are not detected by things like spare parts or system panel, unless sometimes represented in the "system" process, in which case its usage will be unusually high.
This shouldn't take more than three repeats, and if it does, you need to factory reset, and slowly add apps back to see what's causing the problem.
___--- When it comes to actually "calibrating" one's battery, there are a couple of methods floating around. The method I first learned is to charge the phone all the way, boot into recovery immediately, and "wipe battery stats". Then reboot quickly, and run your phone all the way to death without charging it, then charge it all the way without interrupting it, and you should be good to go. Do this when changing ROMs/kernels for best results.
----When it comes to people claiming 20 plus hours of moderate/heavy use out of their current setup or other ridiculous absurdities, consider my position: No matter what you do, the Evo battery is the Evo battery. You can tweak it and customize it with kernels, ROMs, and settings, but none of that will turn it into a car battery. The main problem (besides a false sense of pride) that leads to these reports is the misunderstanding of what the usage levels are, so here’s my best summary:
* *Light usage – Phone screen actually on for maybe 0-2 hours. Things like a few texts, some emails, 20 minutes web browsing, etc.
* *Moderate usage – You watched a few youtube videos or similar apps, sustained web browsing, hundreds of texts, some games. Hours range from about 2-5 of screen on
* *Heavy usage – LOTS of video watching and games, 3D pics or video, or some high def gaming/movie watching for at least an hour to an hour and a half in total, with lots of emails and texts, browsing, and other app shenanigans. 5+ hours
*I’m sure everyone doesn’t agree with all these numbers, but this is most likely a good average of what powerusers think. All specific hourage may vary due to differences in phones, batteries, ROMs, and kernels… Which also means that most battery comparisons are pointless; it’s only what you can improve on that counts!
I’ll update this whenever I see good stuff, people remind me, or I remember/come across things I do.
Hope it helps everybody!
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Nice list of thing you got here. I haven't had to many issues with my battery life yet but I will try these and see if I can get it past the 16 hours.
good stuff here i use JD but i notice my phones not sleeping workin on that now
I too am having wakelock . Updated prl but it remained the same don't know what else to do
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eviltwin24 said:
I too am having wakelock . Updated prl but it remained the same don't know what else to do
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You could try the stuff about wakelocks in the OP
Biofall said:
You could try the stuff about wakelocks in the OP
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Yea sure did but its still not sleeping. Phone gets really hot also when off
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eviltwin24 said:
Yea sure did but its still not sleeping. Phone gets really hot also when off
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How are you charging it? USB to computer charging leads to high wake times. Any rouge apps?
Getting hot is normal this early on.
No I'm charging with the HTC charger. Let me try updating the phone maybe that will fix it.
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eviltwin24 said:
No I'm charging with the HTC charger. Let me try updating the phone maybe that will fix it.
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You need to update, I know everyone is scared about not getting root, but without the update you will have battery issues. Keep fighting on HTC facebook page, we will get the unlock soon enough
So basically the tip to good battery life is to essentially turn your smartphone into a dumbphone and pretty much cripple it?!
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You need to update, I know everyone is scared about not getting root, but without the update you will have battery issues. Keep fighting on HTC facebook page, we will get the unlock soon enough
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Yea I updated and phone is sleeping now. I can live without root for a couple.weeks and i have a spear evo to keep my flashing addiction satisfied till this gets root
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Great tips. I always do.most of them except Juice Defender. Other than that thanks for an informative thread.
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freeza said:
So basically the tip to good battery life is to essentially turn your smartphone into a dumbphone and pretty much cripple it?!
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The tips are all optional. If you can't live without live wallpapers, then by all means, use them. However, many users don't know about radios, etc. Very few people need bluetooth, 4G, and wifi all at the same time while the screen is off. I believe that part of having a smartphone is the luxury of being able to make informed decisions about the functions of your device to find your own individual perfect balance between performance and battery life.
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I'd like to bump this thread. For future reference, if you see the thread and liked the tips, have a new one to suggest, or had a revision, please post it. This will ensure that the thread remains visible for those who need it, as I'm sure the moderators will not sticky it.
On a similar note, moderators, please sticky this!
I'm seeking more clarification about the mobile data always on.
So if I turn that feature off, and after five minutes the radio to into sleep mode, and someone sends me an email (gmail push), then I will receive that email?
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I'm seeking more clarification about the mobile data always on.
So if I turn that feature off, and after five minutes the radio to into sleep mode, and someone sends me an email (gmail push), then I will receive that email?
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yes, apparently so
freeza said:
So basically the tip to good battery life is to essentially turn your smartphone into a dumbphone and pretty much cripple it?!
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Not necessarily. You can still make a call or two, maybe write a few smses but basicly don't use your phone and it will have amazing battery life.
I don't have 3d just yet but I'm guessing with that big of a battery (1730mAh) it should easily go through at least 10-15h with moderate to heavy usage.
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Not necessarily. You can still make a call or two, maybe write a few smses but basicly don't use your phone and it will have amazing battery life.
I don't have 3d just yet but I'm guessing with that big of a battery (1730mAh) it should easily go through at least 10-15h with moderate to heavy usage.
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Then you would guess wrong. It's not that great without lots of tinkering.
How do I use system panel to detect "rogue" apps? I've looked but can't seem to find it
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How do I use system panel to detect "rogue" apps? I've looked but can't seem to find it
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I'll update the OP. Turn on monitoring. This is done by hitting menu>settings>monitoring enabled. Then after some time has passed, ht menu>monitoring>history>change tab to top apps, and see if anything is above, say, 2-4%.
PLEASE MOVE THIS THREAD TO GENERAL MY APOLOGIES
I know battery life issues have been talked to death but...Here's a new perspective:
so I have been doing some experimenting with my amaze in terms of battery life and asking my friend who works at T-mobile regarding his SGS2...He says his battery life seems to be pretty crappy too, marginally better than the amaze....so, I hard reset my phone and I did not sign into google, left my phone on airplain mode, basically I did not set up anything...I turned off wifi, and data everything was truned off...I went for 10 hours with only 2 percent battery drainage...then I signed into google....and in a matter of 10 minutes I went from 98 percent to 92... Watever is eating the battery up is not the phones hardware fault or the screens fault... I turned off background data sync and it seemed to make little difference...It seems the google programs or any program that needs internet connect regardless of syncing or not will have significant effect on your battery life...between 4g and wifi I saw little difference in battery life drainage...my phone signal is completely green so I cannot blame the signal... I cannot possibly kill gmail, market, maps etc...these are programs I use constantly...lets hope with the ICS update some of these sofware issues will resolve...
google needs to start managing applications better and not leave a bunch of applications running in the forground and background...
I've heard different theories regarding task killers...some say it actually worsens battery life since programs keep wanting to restart and some say it saves battery life...can anyone elaborate on this? I have juice defender ultimate, it seems to make minute difference in battery life as well.
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Display is the biggest factor obviously and then its data transfer or anything that has to do with transmitting signal.
like every other phone the 100% lasts for a long time then after it drops it drops quickly. So your analyses is flawed since it already dropped from 100% and then you switched data on. There are apps that are constantly sending data and the sense UI kills the battery a lot too. Thats why AOSP roms are better for battery life.
Juicedefender helps
setcpu helps
managing your apps helps
changing your background to black helps
I've tried juice defender, um... I would suggest you read about instructions on flashing a custom ROM I'm on quiksense and when 2.0 comes out I heard xboarder's got some really nice improvements with the 1.4.1 version I almost doubled my battery life. My phone used to go down to 50~60 idle over night, now it's about 90~ idle over night.
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Display is the biggest factor obviously and then its data transfer or anything that has to do with transmitting signal.
like every other phone the 100% lasts for a long time then after it drops it drops quickly. So your analyses is flawed since it already dropped from 100% and then you switched data on. There are apps that are constantly sending data and the sense UI kills the battery a lot too. Thats why AOSP roms are better for battery life.
Juicedefender helps
setcpu helps
managing your apps helps
changing your background to black helps
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Juicedefender did help but then I was missing all my google talk messages, google voice messages, google voice voicemails and a bunch of stuff...ever going through the settings and setting it up to recheck background data every 5 minutes did not work with J/D...so I stopped using it...I need my data to come through...whats the point of having a phone if you can't get notification and use the features meant to.... I used to be a strickly no bloatware simplistic out of the box google experience guy...thus my nexus one...I LOVED IT...then dropped it and not worth fixing. nexus S was dissapointing, so is the galaxy nexus...I hate all the bloatware, and all the customizations t-mobile makes to the phone...like t-mobile inscription on the phone, t-mobile startup screen...etc...yes I know I could root and change all that stuff...honestly I just don't feel like going through all that crap!!! and also void my warranty...I don't undestand howcome the iphone is never branded!!!???/ wtf....I buy a phone and it's mine why does it have to come with a logo of the company....IT'S MY PHONE. THEY SHOULD INSCRIBE MY NAME ON IT. as for the bloatware I figured out how to temproot and freeze programs... I don't think you can change the startup screen to the original HTC one with temp root...damn T-mobile...you used to be so much better...
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Juicedefender did help but then I was missing all my google talk messages, google voice messages, google voice voicemails and a bunch of stuff...ever going through the settings and setting it up to recheck background data every 5 minutes did not work with J/D...so I stopped using it...I need my data to come through...whats the point of having a phone if you can't get notification and use the features meant to.... I used to be a strickly no bloatware simplistic out of the box google experience guy...thus my nexus one...I LOVED IT...then dropped it and not worth fixing. nexus S was dissapointing, so is the galaxy nexus...I hate all the bloatware, and all the customizations t-mobile makes to the phone...like t-mobile inscription on the phone, t-mobile startup screen...etc...yes I know I could root and change all that stuff...honestly I just don't feel like going through all that crap!!! and also void my warranty...I don't undestand howcome the iphone is never branded!!!???/ wtf....I buy a phone and it's mine why does it have to come with a logo of the company....IT'S MY PHONE. THEY SHOULD INSCRIBE MY NAME ON IT. as for the bloatware I figured out how to temproot and freeze programs... I don't think you can change the startup screen to the original HTC one with temp root...damn T-mobile...you used to be so much better...
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use JD ultimate and set the apps to work with screen off.
you can get a telus or wind model without the tmobile branding
i think you can change the bootanimation with temp root because it's just a file? I'm not exactly sure about that one though.
apple sells their iphone to ATT
as htc sells their phone tmobile
tmobile probably request a branding on it with a higher cost.
att probably reject the higher cost because they're already losing money when buying the iphone from apple (i think i remember i read it awhile ago) and make money off data plans.
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use JD ultimate and set the apps to work with screen off.
you can get a telus or wind model without the tmobile branding
i think you can change the bootanimation with temp root because it's just a file? I'm not exactly sure about that one though.
apple sells their iphone to ATT
as htc sells their phone tmobile
tmobile probably request a branding on it with a higher cost.
att probably reject the higher cost because they're already losing money when buying the iphone from apple (i think i remember i read it awhile ago) and make money off data plans.
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I did use JD ultimate with those apps enable, NO GO, MAYBE I SHOULD RESTART AND GIVE IT ANOTHER TRY...its only when that program requests it that it can initiate the data line, otherwise if someone sends you a text i will not get it since both wifi and data line are cut off permenantly during screen off that is how it saves battery....enabling programs are good for things such as pandora etc...once they end a playlist or something it automatically turns off....this is what I understood from the explaination...i temp rooted and removed some bloatware...hopefully I can change the startup screen as well, perhaps through adb push
P.S. where do I download the original HTC boot animation and sound and what folder is it in to push into? thanks
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I did use JD ultimate with those apps enable, NO GO, MAYBE I SHOULD RESTART AND GIVE IT ANOTHER TRY...its only when that program requests it that it can initiate the data line, otherwise if someone sends you a text i will not get it since both wifi and data line are cut off permenantly during screen off that is how it saves battery....enabling programs are good for things such as pandora etc...once they end a playlist or something it automatically turns off....this is what I understood from the explaination...i temp rooted and removed some bloatware...hopefully I can change the startup screen as well, perhaps through adb push
P.S. where do I download the original HTC boot animation and sound and what folder is it in to push into? thanks
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for JD you want to click on the app thing twice so it goes to enable/screen off not just enabled. But yeah i noticed that sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't
not sure where the bootanimation and sounds is it at, i never played with it. You should check out the themes section, you can download the zip and browse through where it goes.... other than that there might be other threads with the instructions on where it's at.
You may want to try an AOSP based rom, (if you rooted)
I was getting 18 hours of use with 36% left, Medium usage (ie browsing, texting)
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for JD you want to click on the app thing twice so it goes to enable/screen off not just enabled. But yeah i noticed that sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't
not sure where the bootanimation and sounds is it at, i never played with it. You should check out the themes section, you can download the zip and browse through where it goes.... other than that there might be other threads with the instructions on where it's at.
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ya i clicked twice enable/screen off...still no go for those particular programs i tested and tested it....oh well..my batterly life is not bad at all...besides I have a car kit which charges it in the car. once i started using the thing tho, battery drains fast...its no mystery its got a big screen bigger than my old N1 which used to be amoled and this is lcd...also this uses 4g which consumes significantly greater battery...faster processor etc....its not a mystery!!! they need to come up with a new battery technology soon!!!!
(I hope the long time users here will bear with me while I restate something that is I think needs to be said. I see a lot of posts that either directly or indirectly reverence battery use. Here is what I do. )
I've had my amaze for a while and it has a real problem with battery use. I realized one day that I really only needed my data connection when checking, email or weather. So I now shut off the data confection unless I need it . My battery now goes all day on about 25%. I realize that some people need more frequent data, but if you are a light user, it might be worthwhile to keep data off.
I've considered buying an app that automatically turns the data on every hour our so, but haven't wanted to bother.
Note that playing games also burns through battery (due to the large screen and high processor use), but there is little to be done about that. I'm not a gamer, but when my son get ahold of my Amaze, I often bring out my spare batteries!
I'm on NRG with S-On.
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Check out juice defender. The paid version has tons of options on when to turn data on or off..like screen off turns data off, screen on turns data on...etc.
I just use a toggle widget. Most times I'm reading ebooks or PDFs, and don't need data anyway
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Green power premium.. Fantastic app
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Check out juice defender. The paid version has tons of options on when to turn data on or off..like screen off turns data off, screen on turns data on...etc.
I just use a toggle widget. Most times I'm reading ebooks or PDFs, and don't need data anyway
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Actually I own it. Maybe I'll give it another try.
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if you don't mind tinkering and know some programming, Tasker is pretty good too (you can create scripts that toggle off data/syncing based on your own criteria)
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if you don't mind tinkering and know some programming, Tasker is pretty good too (you can create scripts that toggle off data/syncing based on your own criteria)
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Yeah, I thought about Tasker. I already own JuiceDefender, and I'm too cheap to spring for Tasker! But I may think about it, depending on how well JD works.
Back when I had my galaxy s 4g, all my old devs built this feature right into their roms. All of their custom roms on xda since gingerbread came out in fact. They would automatically shut off the phone's data completely when you turned your screen off for more than 10 seconds. And then, automatically turned it back on when you unlocked your phone. It doubled battery life easy with regular use. Even more because it was built in and didn't waste processing power running an app to do it instead.
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Back when I had my galaxy s 4g, all my old devs built this feature right into their roms. All of their custom roms on xda since gingerbread came out in fact. They would automatically shut off the phone's data completely when you turned your screen off for more than 10 seconds. And then, automatically turned it back on when you unlocked your phone. It doubled battery life easy with regular use. Even more because it was built in and didn't waste processing power running an app to do it instead.
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I'm on my first day with JuiceDefender. The nice thing about JD is that it can be set to turn on the data periodically (I use once per hour). That way all the sync can occur while the phone is still off. So my weather and facebook stay up to date, but the data is mostly off.
System app built into Rom or separate app, still uses the same resources. It's not going to use less memory or processor because it's in the Rom. Just comon sence
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*Common Sense; FTFY. And you're right. Now that I think about, I believe it was kernel based. Which is why it was across roms.
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I have been having battery drain issues on beans town ROM ever since i loaded Build 7 (currently on build 10). 20% battery drop in 4 hours of sleep (even with the Wifi and 4G off)
I am trying to determine what is causing it. I have screen capture of the warnings below and the alarm screen is blank in Better Battery Stats- The other 2 attachments are from yesterday
I have Google location off.
I am strongly considering just going back to stock at this point- the drain is not acceptable.
Stock got 2 days with normal use (I have responded to other posts where they say it depends etc etc- understand that but- big but- normal use on stock for 24 hours took it down to maybe 55%- i can drop to 55% in 8-9 hours with the phone unused in sleep on this ROM )
You may not want to come off with attitude of you want people to help. It sounds like that in op.
Two things I notice. First your wifi is on in those shots. Service to be honest nothing seems abnormal
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Except you used your phone so it wasn't just sitting. How long are those phone calls for? By the way are you in a bad signal area?
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You may not want to come off with attitude of you want people to help. It sounds like that in op.
Two things I notice. First your wifi is on in those shots. Service to be honest nothing seems abnormal
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Except you used your phone so it wasn't just sitting. How long are those phone calls for? By the way are you in a bad signal area?
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Hi- no attitude but I am wondering if I am the only one seeing this or not. I realize this is "for free" support and people help here because they love the technology or just want to help- so i appreciate that- sorry if I gave that impression.
I live in a heavy populated area in Atlanta with strong signal, even in the house (at least 3bars). the calls i think were 1 min 47 seconds if i recall correctly. regarding Wifi- i may have turned it back on right before the screen shot as I saw the battery still going down at pretty much the same rate)
I am wondering if it is an inherent HW problem with either the battery or something with the air interface- motherboard
Based on the screenshots, your phone was on for just under 5 hours, and wifi was on for 4.5 hrs of that time, so 90% of the time. If wifi was on, but not connected and was scanning, I could see that causing significant drain. Also, do you have any theme installed? Any other changes made to the ROM itself?
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Based on the screenshots, your phone was on for just under 5 hours, and wifi was on for 4.5 hrs of that time, so 90% of the time. If wifi was on, but not connected and was scanning, I could see that causing significant drain. Also, do you have any theme installed? Any other changes made to the ROM itself?
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I have wifi set to turn off when phone is asleep- when i wake the phone, I see that wifi is off and it will reconnect to the AP at my house.
I lost some train of thought when switching threads but i believe Wifi was off (I know it shows on in the screenshot)- which makes me think something is amiss here in HW. that is why i am pretty sure i turned off all interfaces last night and left them off.
I also have power saving mode on for the phone.
The phone is at 51% currently- I will place it back on charger to take it to 100% then turn off all air interfaces and see what happens
That a good plan?
Go into your apps and clear the data on wifi share... why if your phone is sleeping it needs to be using wifi 58 percent of the time? ...this tells me an app is waking the phone...so look and see what is causing the most wake locks...once you find the app causing the most wake locks... Delete it and reinstall... Then go into the settings of that app and set your sync to a reasonable interval... Last of all go have three hours of coffee at star bucks and use their wifi to check and see if your modem is causing the problem...
Other solutions....use sd maid and clean all system, apps, and ghost files..
Do a davlik and cache wipe in recovery
And last effort do a davlik and cache wipe with a reinstall of your rom...
Keep in mind after each step your phone will use excessive battery because it will be adding files and moving things around... SO patience is important when cleaning and installing because it may take a few full discharges and charges before it settles down and gives you a good idea of what your battery life will be like
Also I am wondering... Two days with your phone on stock... But a whole day while rom'd...i am wondering...did you play with you phone as much when stock?... I know I didn't... :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
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Quick thing have you wiped both caches and fixed permissions? Sometimes that will do wonders when the phone is acting up.
Also I was just pointing out it sounded like you were giving attitude. I actually figured you were just frustrated at this point. I've seen the posts in beans thread. So I wanted you to clarify before getting flamed.
The community will get this fixed. Beans had great battery life when I ran it before switching back to Eclipse so it's something going in on your phone.
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I have a great idea, get rid of the task killer or set it to manual. Task killers will destroy your battery life if set to auto kill.
Also do you have an SD card? Take it out for a few hours and see what the battery life is like. If it gets better then copy everything to your computer and format the card and copy it back.
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Go into your apps and clear the data on wifi share... why if your phone is sleeping it needs to be using wifi 58 percent of the time? ...this tells me an app is waking the phone...so look and see what is causing the most wake locks...once you find the app causing the most wake locks... Delete it and reinstall... Then go into the settings of that app and set your sync to a reasonable interval... Last of all go have three hours of coffee at star bucks and use their wifi to check and see if your modem is causing the problem...
Other solutions....use sd maid and clean all system, apps, and ghost files..
Do a davlik and cache wipe in recovery
And last effort do a davlik and cache wipe with a reinstall of your rom...
Keep in mind after each step your phone will use excessive battery because it will be adding files and moving things around... SO patience is important when cleaning and installing because it may take a few full discharges and charges before it settles down and gives you a good idea of what your battery life will be like
Also I am wondering... Two days with your phone on stock... But a whole day while rom'd...i am wondering...did you play with you phone as much when stock?... I know I didn't... :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
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Thanks for the pointers. I will respond to all the questions ( I think) here
I have done this previously (did not help)- suggested also by another response
1. Wiped Davlik cache and fix permissions
2. upgraded to 2.4.3 TWRP from 2.3.2
3. Wiped Davlik cache and fix permissions again (twice on 2.4.3)
4. I have not done anything with regard to the SD card- I will look at that after looking at the Wifi closer
In Wifi- I can see wifi direct share process in all in one toolbox but do not see an app- I would assume wifi is part of the kernel. I am not sure how to clean the cache or delete/reinstall the wifi direct share unless it's a .apk hanging around outside the /system/apps folder-update- i found it- cleared data and will let rthe phone run for a few hours
I did not play around with the Stock build from VZW- it was 2 days right out of the box with "normal" call use.
The reason I think it's a HW issue is that this si a replacement phone for the one the girlfriend cracked after having a new one from VZW for 20 days. That was the phone that could go 2 days on stock unaltered VZW. This I am sure is a refurb from the repair depot. I placed Beanstown 7 on it right after I got it (I practiced unlocking on the cracked original phone)
nosympathy said:
I have a great idea, get rid of the task killer or set it to manual. Task killers will destroy your battery life if set to auto kill.
Also do you have an SD card? Take it out for a few hours and see what the battery life is like. If it gets better then copy everything to your computer and format the card and copy it back.
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Thanks for suggestion- Advanced Task Killer is set to disable (no auto kill already). I will look at SD card once i look at Wifi
Update this morning
Girlfriend used phone for maybe 30 minutes or so this morning. I have attached the better battery Stats
I noticed that Wifi is on and running most of the time- even though it is set to turn off when phone sleeps. Is the next step then to Starbucks or can I simply turn Wifi off
When i loaded Build10, I followed the instructions.
1. Wipe Data- I did not format data
2. Factory reset
3. Wipe Davlivk Cache and cache
4. Installed ROM
Manually turn off wifi. Also do you have another battery monitor app besides bbs? Ultimately though your phone is going into deep sleep so I'm not sure what going on
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kintwofan said:
Manually turn off wifi. Also do you have another battery monitor app besides bbs? Ultimately though your phone is going into deep sleep so I'm not sure what going on
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Ok will do- I do not have another app but happy to buy/try another one. I do have another battery as well.
She's out with the phone for a bit- do I need to fully charge and then turn off wifi or can I reset the battery stats (assume I can) and just turn off wifi?
delaneybob said:
Ok will do- I do not have another app but happy to buy/try another one. I do have another battery as well.
She's out with the phone for a bit- do I need to fully charge and then turn off wifi or can I reset the battery stats (assume I can) and just turn off wifi?
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Thought this was interesting- how can i fidn out what is with all the awakes
delaneybob said:
Thought this was interesting- how can i fidn out what is with all the awakes
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I turned Wifi off battery is 52% @ 4:06pm EST
delaneybob said:
I turned Wifi off battery is 52% @ 4:06pm EST
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Is that better? Bbs should tell you what's keeping it awake. I asked about sket monitor because I was wondering what your 1 partial wake locks was.
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Is that better? Bbs should tell you what's keeping it awake. I asked about sket monitor because I was wondering what your 1 partial wake locks was.
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Sorry let me try again- I plugged it back in to capture the UI stop screenshot and left it in
delaneybob said:
Sorry let me try again- I plugged it back in to capture the UI stop screenshot and left it in
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Screenshot- just started happening today
delaneybob said:
Screenshot- just started happening today
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Known issue I guess you've just been fortunate
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Just my two cents...i always use titanium or romtoolbox to delete maps as google maps was draining my battery.. Also kernel can make a difference..location servives and maps keeps wifi searching and almost constantly in use and if services on and wifi off they will keep trying to reconnect. I feel running maps is a battery waste. If i need directions i will google address. Call me old fashioned but ill read,read,understand the set my path..i prefer battery life
I get almost 48 hrs out of battery with 5hrs screen...only 24 with closer to 9hrs sscreen on, was half that with locations and maps running
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I left my phone on to charge overnight so it's 100% when I woke up. I turned it on to check the weather for the day and before I turned it off, it's down to 99%. When I got to work, I turned it back on and I'm at around 90%. I got home today and I'm at around 30-40% with just some light web browsing and video watching at work. I flashed my T-Mo HTC One with a custom rom that was supposed to help increase battery life.
I'm not blaming the phone yet though. I'm leaning on it being T-Mobile's fault. The data connection seems to be very unreliable, jumping from < 1MB to 10MB download while still supposedly being 4G (icon shows 4G). I read that this can be a constant strain on the battery? I plan to turn off the data and manually turn it on when I want to use it tomorrow to test out this theory.
How was your battery life on the stock rom?
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busab said:
How was your battery life on the stock rom?
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To be honest, I have no idea. I flashed the custom ROM pretty early to get rid of all the bloat.
Welcome to android Where your dreams must be tapered.
mine beasts its way thru days... I still charge it while I sleep but I have a hard time burning through more than 60-70% all day. then again I don't use my phone during work hours.
I'd recommend you get the advanced task killer and use it whenever you're done fiddling around for the time being.
thcOne said:
mine beasts its way thru days... I still charge it while I sleep but I have a hard time burning through more than 60-70% all day. then again I don't use my phone during work hours.
I'd recommend you get the advanced task killer and use it whenever you're done fiddling around for the time being.
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Absolutely the wrong advice. Task killers NEVER need to be used for anything.
If your battery life is poor, it's one of a couple things:
1) an app is keeping your device from going into deep sleep. I'm going to bet it might be maps. Go into the settings on the maps app and make sure it's not updating your location for latitude.
Failing that, search for betterbatterystats on XDA, install that program, and look for wakelocks. Read the main thread on XDA to learn about what wakelock is what. Maps is a big one, so is facebook.
2) if your signal borderlines on 0 signal and 2g/edge. If your signal is low, then fire up wifi to get it to connect to wifi calling. It'll disable the 2g/3g radios and rely on wifi only, which will be a huge save in terms of battery.
NEVER EVER use task killers. It's a myth that's been debunked years ago by the android engineers.
thcOne said:
mine beasts its way thru days... I still charge it while I sleep but I have a hard time burning through more than 60-70% all day. then again I don't use my phone during work hours.
I'd recommend you get the advanced task killer and use it whenever you're done fiddling around for the time being.
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I dont recommend task killers, I think they do more damage than good....just my opinion.
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Find Better Battery Stats. It's paid on the market (which I recommend) but he has it free in the apps section on here. Also find GSam battery. Use those two apps to find your wakelock. Use the partial wakelock setting in BBS to find what it is exactly.
Between those two apps you can find any leaks. I would say that it is either the location reporting being on in Maps or a nasty wakelock caused by the ipservice app which is a backbone of WiFi calling.
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I recommand Greenify app. Rather than killing app it hibernate until you manualy open any app and give info about wakelock by individual apps.
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I recommand Greenify app. Rather than killing app it hibernate until you manualy open any app and give info about wakelock by individual apps.
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+1million to that. Greennify has worked miracles on my phone.
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altimax98 said:
Find Better Battery Stats. It's paid on the market (which I recommend) but he has it free in the apps section on here. Also find GSam battery. Use those two apps to find your wakelock. Use the partial wakelock setting in BBS to find what it is exactly.
Between those two apps you can find any leaks. I would say that it is either the location reporting being on in Maps or a nasty wakelock caused by the ipservice app which is a backbone of WiFi calling.
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Now that you mention Maps, I do remember a feature where I set my home location and the phone would update directions on how to get home. I also had automatic locations on. I went and turned it all off. I hope this is it.
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I recommand Greenify app. Rather than killing app it hibernate until you manualy open any app and give info about wakelock by individual apps.
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Thanks. I will give it a try. So does Greenify work much in the same way as iOS multitasking? I came from iOS, and when you switch apps, the app that is in the background gets put into a stasis until you switch back to it.
I've been doing it the old fashioned way as of recently and it's helped tremendously. I have different little widgets (the HTC ones) to turn off certain functions, like GPS (Google Now and other geo-location apps still work, they just don't pinpoint you EXACTLY to a coordinate), WiFi, Bluetooth, brightness, sync, etc.
Additionally, I also have power saver turned on to lower the screen brightness a bit and keep the clock speed of the device lower. Lol it sounds like I'm limiting the hell out of the device, when in reality there's no difference other than the upkeep of having to turn certain things on when you want to use them.
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I've been doing it the old fashioned way as of recently and it's helped tremendously. I have different little widgets (the HTC ones) to turn off certain functions, like GPS (Google Now and other geo-location apps still work, they just don't pinpoint you EXACTLY to a coordinate), WiFi, Bluetooth, brightness, sync, etc.
Additionally, I also have power saver turned on to lower the screen brightness a bit and keep the clock speed of the device lower. Lol it sounds like I'm limiting the hell out of the device, when in reality there's no difference other than the upkeep of having to turn certain things on when you want to use them.
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Yeah power saver is pretty awesome, haven't actually noticed any performance changes with it on.
Ajxx16 said:
Yeah power saver is pretty awesome, haven't actually noticed any performance changes with it on.
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I thought about doing all of that too, but when you think about it, it seems pretty silly to go through all that just to be able to get some usage out of your device.
I've turned off a lot of things that were hogging my battery and am using Greenify. Battery life is a lot better at the moment, but it's still nowhere as efficient as my iPhone 5.