I left my phone on to charge overnight so it's 100% when I woke up. I turned it on to check the weather for the day and before I turned it off, it's down to 99%. When I got to work, I turned it back on and I'm at around 90%. I got home today and I'm at around 30-40% with just some light web browsing and video watching at work. I flashed my T-Mo HTC One with a custom rom that was supposed to help increase battery life.
I'm not blaming the phone yet though. I'm leaning on it being T-Mobile's fault. The data connection seems to be very unreliable, jumping from < 1MB to 10MB download while still supposedly being 4G (icon shows 4G). I read that this can be a constant strain on the battery? I plan to turn off the data and manually turn it on when I want to use it tomorrow to test out this theory.
How was your battery life on the stock rom?
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How was your battery life on the stock rom?
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To be honest, I have no idea. I flashed the custom ROM pretty early to get rid of all the bloat.
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mine beasts its way thru days... I still charge it while I sleep but I have a hard time burning through more than 60-70% all day. then again I don't use my phone during work hours.
I'd recommend you get the advanced task killer and use it whenever you're done fiddling around for the time being.
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mine beasts its way thru days... I still charge it while I sleep but I have a hard time burning through more than 60-70% all day. then again I don't use my phone during work hours.
I'd recommend you get the advanced task killer and use it whenever you're done fiddling around for the time being.
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Absolutely the wrong advice. Task killers NEVER need to be used for anything.
If your battery life is poor, it's one of a couple things:
1) an app is keeping your device from going into deep sleep. I'm going to bet it might be maps. Go into the settings on the maps app and make sure it's not updating your location for latitude.
Failing that, search for betterbatterystats on XDA, install that program, and look for wakelocks. Read the main thread on XDA to learn about what wakelock is what. Maps is a big one, so is facebook.
2) if your signal borderlines on 0 signal and 2g/edge. If your signal is low, then fire up wifi to get it to connect to wifi calling. It'll disable the 2g/3g radios and rely on wifi only, which will be a huge save in terms of battery.
NEVER EVER use task killers. It's a myth that's been debunked years ago by the android engineers.
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mine beasts its way thru days... I still charge it while I sleep but I have a hard time burning through more than 60-70% all day. then again I don't use my phone during work hours.
I'd recommend you get the advanced task killer and use it whenever you're done fiddling around for the time being.
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I dont recommend task killers, I think they do more damage than good....just my opinion.
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Find Better Battery Stats. It's paid on the market (which I recommend) but he has it free in the apps section on here. Also find GSam battery. Use those two apps to find your wakelock. Use the partial wakelock setting in BBS to find what it is exactly.
Between those two apps you can find any leaks. I would say that it is either the location reporting being on in Maps or a nasty wakelock caused by the ipservice app which is a backbone of WiFi calling.
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I recommand Greenify app. Rather than killing app it hibernate until you manualy open any app and give info about wakelock by individual apps.
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I recommand Greenify app. Rather than killing app it hibernate until you manualy open any app and give info about wakelock by individual apps.
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+1million to that. Greennify has worked miracles on my phone.
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Find Better Battery Stats. It's paid on the market (which I recommend) but he has it free in the apps section on here. Also find GSam battery. Use those two apps to find your wakelock. Use the partial wakelock setting in BBS to find what it is exactly.
Between those two apps you can find any leaks. I would say that it is either the location reporting being on in Maps or a nasty wakelock caused by the ipservice app which is a backbone of WiFi calling.
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Now that you mention Maps, I do remember a feature where I set my home location and the phone would update directions on how to get home. I also had automatic locations on. I went and turned it all off. I hope this is it.
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I recommand Greenify app. Rather than killing app it hibernate until you manualy open any app and give info about wakelock by individual apps.
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Thanks. I will give it a try. So does Greenify work much in the same way as iOS multitasking? I came from iOS, and when you switch apps, the app that is in the background gets put into a stasis until you switch back to it.
I've been doing it the old fashioned way as of recently and it's helped tremendously. I have different little widgets (the HTC ones) to turn off certain functions, like GPS (Google Now and other geo-location apps still work, they just don't pinpoint you EXACTLY to a coordinate), WiFi, Bluetooth, brightness, sync, etc.
Additionally, I also have power saver turned on to lower the screen brightness a bit and keep the clock speed of the device lower. Lol it sounds like I'm limiting the hell out of the device, when in reality there's no difference other than the upkeep of having to turn certain things on when you want to use them.
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I've been doing it the old fashioned way as of recently and it's helped tremendously. I have different little widgets (the HTC ones) to turn off certain functions, like GPS (Google Now and other geo-location apps still work, they just don't pinpoint you EXACTLY to a coordinate), WiFi, Bluetooth, brightness, sync, etc.
Additionally, I also have power saver turned on to lower the screen brightness a bit and keep the clock speed of the device lower. Lol it sounds like I'm limiting the hell out of the device, when in reality there's no difference other than the upkeep of having to turn certain things on when you want to use them.
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Yeah power saver is pretty awesome, haven't actually noticed any performance changes with it on.
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Yeah power saver is pretty awesome, haven't actually noticed any performance changes with it on.
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I thought about doing all of that too, but when you think about it, it seems pretty silly to go through all that just to be able to get some usage out of your device.
I've turned off a lot of things that were hogging my battery and am using Greenify. Battery life is a lot better at the moment, but it's still nowhere as efficient as my iPhone 5.
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My phone started dieing overnight and I was really confused because I could've sworn I had a lot of like left when I went to bed. So I did a test tonight...
Charged to 100% at 10:30pm
All background application closed, ram cleared
Wifi and GPS off
Results: after 8.5 hours of doing nothing, I lost over 75% battery.
Screenshots are below...WTF is happening with my phone?
Looks like something is keeping it from deep sleep. Download cpuspy and see if that is the case. When you click on phone stand by what does it say?
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Like this?
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Looks like something is keeping it from deep sleep. Download cpuspy and see if that is the case. When you click on phone stand by what does it say?
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It just says Time on 8h XXm XXs
Looks like Google talk is keeping it awake. Never used GT before so not sure if that is normal. I am having similar (but not as drastic) with ms exchange keeping mine in awake state. I am using ics alpha 2 Rom and did not have this issue on stock GB. What Rom are you using?
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It also looks like your cell signal isn't all that great so it's constantly pinging. Not sure about that though. Do you need data all the time? I use 2x battery so it severs data. Saves a **** ton of battery life.
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I noticed the Google Talk but I never use it, and it's installed on my phone, but I can find a way to uninstall it anywhere. It also doesn't give me an option to log out either.
Oh and I'm running the ICS alpha 2 ROM. I don't recall having this problem with GB.
I use the ICS -1 Click Odin leak (In progress of getting a better ICS loaded) but I have noticed that I run into a lot of Battery life problems when I am sleeping... If I leave my phone unplugged overnight it always dies, I have to charge it. It's weird... Because I can be on it all day with amazing Battery life, then it just dies over night with a full charge of not even being in use...
I probably need to run some analytics to see what is killing it in the first place... I always force close my apps though...
This happens on any OS, GB, or ICS...
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I noticed the Google Talk but I never use it, and it's installed on my phone, but I can find a way to uninstall it anywhere. It also doesn't give me an option to log out either.
Oh and I'm running the ICS alpha 2 ROM. I don't recall having this problem with GB.
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I had the same problem which is why I went back to GB. Remember this is an ATT leak of an unfinished ROM. they have all sorts of unfinished code and debugging running that it's bound to cause these issues.
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It also looks like your cell signal isn't all that great so it's constantly pinging. Not sure about that though. Do you need data all the time? I use 2x battery so it severs data. Saves a **** ton of battery life.
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BINGO!!! Just checked some screen capture from battery stats from GB and my cell strength was no ways near as bad as it is on ICS. Need to see if any fixes are out there. It almost all tan for signal strength on ICS vs all green in GB. Same locales for both samples.
by the way, i was getting between 1 day to 1.5 days on rooted GB oc'd to 1.84 with 4 hours screen time. Did not ever see exchange using any noticeable % of battery. Now getting 15 hours with 2 hours screen time and exchange using 6% of the battery. Not going back yet because the pro's out weigh the con's.
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Well that would suck if the ICS radio is a step backwards over the GB radio....
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Yep, it seems like the partial wakelocks are getting you.
It will go into deep sleep but then go up to 384 off and on.
Gtalk looks like the biggest culprit.
Like I said if data is off it shouldn't have wakelocks.
Another test you could do tonight is the exact same but put it in airplane mode.
It shouldn't budge much.....
I managed to find a way to log out of google talk, so I'll test it under the same conditions tonight to see if that changes anything.
Airplane mode overnight is not an option for me since I need cell service in case of emergency calls. Generally, I do notice slightly worse reception of the previous GB ROM, so the modem might be questionable.
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I managed to find a way to log out of google talk, so I'll test it under the same conditions tonight to see if that changes anything.
Airplane mode overnight is not an option for me since I need cell service in case of emergency calls. Generally, I do notice slightly worse reception of the previous GB ROM, so the modem might be questionable.
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Understood about the calls. You can get calls and texts without data though. That's why I was recommending 2x battery which is like juice defender I think. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.a0soft.gphone.aDataOnOff&hl=en
I realized I really don't need data unless I 'want' data. I do push my emails but they won't push until I turn on data. Saves a lot of battery, especially when on LTE.....
It works well for me because you can set a delay for the data. So you can turn on your screen (not unlock) and see if you got any new texts. If not, put it back in my pocket. All without data coming on. I do these quick checks all time...
Then there is a delay time you can set after you unlock.
I have mine set to 3 min. If I do get a text, I will unlock, read it and maybe respond quickly, then put it back in my pocket. As long as its not mms that's all done without data.
If I need to get data prior to the 3min there is a notification to connect the data.
I'm coming from the thunderbolt and we had to REALLY find all the tricks to save battery life. As it given to us by HTC and Verizon it was unacceptable.
At any rate, sorry for the wind there. If you're wondering, I have no association with 2X battery. I just like to spread the word when I find an app that is useful and has helped me out.
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Understood about the calls. You can get calls and texts without data though. That's why I was recommending 2x battery which is like juice defender I think. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.a0soft.gphone.aDataOnOff&hl=en
I realized I really don't need data unless I 'want' data. I do push my emails but they won't push until I turn on data. Saves a lot of battery, especially when on LTE.....
It works well for me because you can set a delay for the data. So you can turn on your screen (not unlock) and see if you got any new texts. If not, put it back in my pocket. All without data coming on. I do these quick checks all time...
Then there is a delay time you can set after you unlock.
I have mine set to 3 min. If I do get a text, I will unlock, read it and maybe respond quickly, then put it back in my pocket. As long as its not mms that's all done without data.
If I need to get data prior to the 3min there is a notification to connect the data.
I'm coming from the thunderbolt and we had to REALLY find all the tricks to save battery life. As it given to us by HTC and Verizon it was unacceptable.
At any rate, sorry for the wind there. If you're wondering, I have no association with 2X battery. I just like to spread the word when I find an app that is useful and has helped me out.
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I used to use juice defender but a couple things were a deal breaker for me:
1) First was that it rendered Cerberus almost completely useless. I could not get the phone to connect using the web interface at cerberusapp.com since the phone had no data with the screen off. Sure I could have used the SMS method of activation, but I don't have another phone to text from and it just isn't as flexible as the website.
2) Every time I unlocked the phone, I had to wait 10+ seconds for data to fully reconnect before I can start using stuff. When I unlock the phone, it's usually to check something very quick, and if I'm stuck waiting, I'd rather suffer the battery loss than to wait a bunch of times.
I suspect every battery saver app has this issue, and they can probably be configured to work to my needs, but I just don't have the time and patience to be tinkering with stuff like that.
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I used to use juice defender but a couple things were a deal breaker for me:
1) First was that it rendered Cerberus almost completely useless. I could not get the phone to connect using the web interface at cerberusapp.com since the phone had no data with the screen off. Sure I could have used the SMS method of activation, but I don't have another phone to text from and it just isn't as flexible as the website.
2) Every time I unlocked the phone, I had to wait 10+ seconds for data to fully reconnect before I can start using stuff. When I unlock the phone, it's usually to check something very quick, and if I'm stuck waiting, I'd rather suffer the battery loss than to wait a bunch of times.
I suspect every battery saver app has this issue, and they can probably be configured to work to my needs, but I just don't have the time and patience to be tinkering with stuff like that.
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JD Ultimate has an option that allows foreground apps to force enable/disable data, which is an easy thing to set. Also, my experience with JD is that data reconnects as soon as I unlock the phone and before I can launch an app. Battery saver apps are definitely frustrating, but I find that the correct settings fix 95% of the annoyances.
I hear ya on the time thing. Just thought I'd over up that tidbit. I don't seem to have much of a delay. 2x does allow for whitelisting apps you want to run like Pandora.
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Google Talk is like any other VoiP service, it will have a heartbeat that needs to talk back to the mothership every so many seconds.
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Google Talk is like any other VoiP service, it will have a heartbeat that needs to talk back to the mothership every so many seconds.
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Yup, that's exactly why I don't want it. If I rarely/never use the app, I don't want it constantly connected wasting my battery and data. I wish there was an easy way to turn that off. I've been reading on Google and there were posts from 1-2 years ago that said signing out of gtalk doesn't help with the wakelock, so we shall see tonight when I test it again.
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Yup, that's exactly why I don't want it. If I rarely/never use the app, I don't want it constantly connected wasting my battery and data. I wish there was an easy way to turn that off. I've been reading on Google and there were posts from 1-2 years ago that said signing out of gtalk doesn't help with the wakelock, so we shall see tonight when I test it again.
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Actually, there is (sort of). Purchase an app called Autostarts on the market. Open it, wait for it to finish loading, hit the menu button, then tap the 'group by application' option.
Then, scroll thru the list to Google Talk and tap it. This will expand a bunch of different conditions that Google Talk automatically starts under. Disabling every condition will cause the app to never automatically start in the background (but the app will still launch if you manually launch it). Since I dont currently have root, I cant see what the conditions are, but you might need to leave one or two enabled if you need to receive incoming calls.
Reboot your phone after making any changes.
I should also mention that if you manually launch the app, you need to remember to manually close the app if this is what you assume is causing the battery drain.
If nothing else, you can use Autostarts to help determine if Gtalk is what is causing the issue by just disabling everything for it and watching battery drain rate.
I also use another app called Battery Widget Pro by 3c which will tell you everything about the battery and what exactly is causing it to drain.
What I would do is disable everything unless it looks like its something for receiving calls (if you need to receive calls that is) and reboot the phone, then test it by using another phone to call your Google # and make sure it works.
The point is tho to disable everything you can. I personally use Autostarts to disable every user app that doesnt either have a widget or a scheduled process that needs to run in the background to perform its task. Helps a crap ton with battery life.
So looks like signing out of google talk did not help anything looking at more detail in the better battery stats it might be google maps that's causing all the wakeups
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Hi everyone,
I have a problem with my GT-i9300 with stock JB & stock kernel (I9300XXDLJ4), the battery drains too much fast while screen is off, even after all apps closed or cold start (if screen is on, battery drains abnormally fast as well). BBS shows lots of partial wakelocks named NetworkLocationLocator, and of course I have googled this and found an issue in AOSP issues list, but no solution. (sorry can't post links, issue #37348)
The only thing I can do to prevent early battery death is to go to Settings->Location and uncheck 'use wireless networks', but this is really bad for overall user experience. Things like latitude or google now are disabled.
I am attaching lots of screenshots that might help to understand my problem + BBS report and logs.
Thanks everyone in advance...
Mate, you know that there is an entire thread dedicated to better battery stats......... Search will probably lead to a resolution.
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I am searching for solution for like weeks including thread mentioned. Still no result..
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woyorus said:
Hi everyone,
I have a problem with my GT-i9300 with stock JB & stock kernel (I9300XXDLJ4), the battery drains too much fast while screen is off, even after all apps closed or cold start (if screen is on, battery drains abnormally fast as well). BBS shows lots of partial wakelocks named NetworkLocationLocator, and of course I have googled this and found an issue in AOSP issues list, but no solution. (sorry can't post links, issue #37348)
The only thing I can do to prevent early battery death is to go to Settings->Location and uncheck 'use wireless networks', but this is really bad for overall user experience. Things like latitude or google now are disabled.
I am attaching lots of screenshots that might help to understand my problem + BBS report and logs.
Thanks everyone in advance...
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I have exatly the same issue. Search and search and nothing. already troubleshoot using BBS, the only way to do it is disable it or use an app that disconnects 3g and wifi and connects it every x minutes - like easy battery saver. the only thing I am amazed is that there are not so many reports about it...
will keep you posted since I keep troubleshooting.
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I have exatly the same issue. Search and search and nothing. already troubleshoot using BBS, the only way to do it is disable it or use an app that disconnects 3g and wifi and connects it every x minutes - like easy battery saver. the only thing I am amazed is that there are not so many reports about it...
will keep you posted since I keep troubleshooting.
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It seems like I found the problem, at least on my phone. I have disabled SNS (Social Network Service or so, a weird app shipped with the stock rom by samsung) and also uninstalled the facebook app, looks like I don't have the issue since that. Battery has drained much less overnight today, and I don't see any location-related wakelocks in BBS. I'll try to find what exactly causes the problem
Can you please be more specific about this service? Where did you disable and what was the name of the app?
Thanks
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Can you please be more specific about this service? Where did you disable and what was the name of the app?
Thanks
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It's under Settings->Application Manager. You have to swipe twice to the right in order to open 'All applications' tab there, and find SNS app, and then click 'Disable' button. The app's icon looks like Facebook logo (little f letter on blue background). Please let me know if it was helpful.. and don't forget to freeze/uninstall official facebook app
Thanks. Meanwhile I've remove and disable a lot of services, mainly from Samsung that I don't use and the battery drain is more stable when the device is on standby.
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Thanks. Meanwhile I've remove and disable a lot of services, mainly from Samsung that I don't use and the battery drain is more stable when the device is on standby.
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Well, have you noticed anything other than the services and battery drain? Maybe an in-/decrease of performance, or something else?
If you look on the Android *stock* battery stats app, you'll see, as soon as the screen is off, for the night, the data connection goes crazy with different signals and network modes. Have you tried putting the phone somewhere else at night, maybe just to see, whether that makes a difference? I'm guessing, you get fluctuations in your network, at night. That has happened to me, quite a lot, as I had my GS II (Telekom DE fixed it, though).
If that isn't the problem, then you've probably installed other third-party apps, that are causing this battery drainage, maybe they're collecting your user data, or something.
Anyways, hope I could help!
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Yes I've been watching it. In resume:
1) if you activate use networks for location the battery drains even if none app request it.
2) there are a bunch of services mainly from Samsung that drains the battery just because they do.
3) if I leave my Wi-Fi off for the night it will drain 5% against 20% if I leave it on
Probably this one is because of weak Wi-Fi at my bedroom. Yes I've selected only when connected but even so the phone doesn't respect it.
4) if you have selected backup this phone to Google it will drain the battery also
5) I can have really good battery life if I disconnect Wi-Fi and data and connect it once in a while
But my point is why should I need to manage all this stuff? Why do I need to spend more time troubleshooting something instead of having fun with a new phone?
I've used juice defender, battery stats and a bunch of other applications just to conclude that android and Samsung are a piece of **** regarding power management.
And yes, Google now is disconnected and also history location.
If I wipe my phone and do not install anything, battery life is regular, as soon I start to install apps it will start to drain without apparently explication.
I have bought an extra battery and will live with it. I this it's just an os feature.
I've tried some custom rom's but all of them have problems, some because something doesn't work, others because developer didn't implement it, so I know if I want one good enough to suit my desires,I should cook it myself but I do not want to do it, so I came back always to official one.
And I do not have enough patience to undervolt or spend my nights tweaking something that should have work from out of the box.
This is my experience with my first android and I think this is why people always have complains about this system. I'm just going to live with it and accept the fact that this os have lots of defects that should not exist.
One thing is true: it is very frustrating from an user experience point off view.
Just my 2 cents
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I completely agree with you here. I don't know what exactly causes the problem, bugs with Samsung's software or bugs in Android itself - I don't care. The user experience is awful with this device.
I really considering getting an iPhone. iOS is built the way when regardless of amount apps installed and their quality the battery life is stable and decent. No app, maybe except VoIP, could drain battery if it's in the background or the screen is off. For me personally, all this Android's 'customizability' causes only decline in UX and battery life.
Ridiculously, there are lots of poor quality apps for Android that behave extremely bad, for example The Tribez game. It's a game, and I am expecting battery drain only when I'm playing (isn't it logical?), however, I do get drain caused by this app even if it's closed! That's ridiculous. I just bought an iPad version and I have absolutely no problems with it, moreover, it is running much faster on my dualcore tablet than on my cutting edge quad core phone. Of course, this is just an awful job porting the game from iOS to Android, but I'm sure, mostly this is problem with Android itself. This is the _mobile_ OS, and it must not allow any app behave like this (like iOS does, it kills badass processes almost instantaneously). I'm sorry Android fanboys, but your lovely OS is a poor quality product.
I've already said too much, but again, I don't want to think if my WiFi or anything else is turned off, I want to use my handset. I think you get my point.
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Over the past couple days I've noticed this as the top partial wakelock on my device. This seems to be at least partially coincident with info propagating across the internet about Google games. There is an apparent associated wake alarm, which ends in .Gms.
While these aren't insanely bad wakelocks, they are irritating to me as I'm not sure where they are coming from. The number of wake alarms from this is pretty aggressive... Previous to this maps was my most aggressive waker by a large margin, and this new one is twice as aggressive as maps.
Is anyone else seeing these? Anyone have any insight as to the source?
Screenies attached...
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Yes, same problem here but with a Nexus 4
It looks like that's caused by Messenger.
I can say for certain that it Might be caused my Messenger, as I do not have it installed ,and do not suffer that wakelock.
I do got a lot from Maps, but Greenify takes care of that.
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It looks like that's caused by Messenger.
I can say for certain that it Might be caused my Messenger, as I do not have it installed ,and do not suffer that wakelock.
I do got a lot from Maps, but Greenify takes care of that.
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What specifically is pointing you to messenger? You're referring to G+ messenger I assume. There haven't been any updates to G+ or messenger recently...
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What specifically is pointing you to messenger? You're referring to G+ messenger I assume. There haven't been any updates to G+ or messenger recently...
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No, but I have seen com.google.gms implicated in recent Google Play Services updates, in reference to the upcoming game center-thing Google is launching, so That could potentially have something to do with it.
DId you get rid of this wakelock. this error is not lettign my phone to sleep.
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DId you get rid of this wakelock. this error is not lettign my phone to sleep.
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No. It seems to have gotten slightly better with a different kernel, but still present. I'm still getting decent deep sleep and awake: screen on ratios... It isn't completely preventing deep sleep for me.
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No. It seems to have gotten slightly better with a different kernel, but still present. I'm still getting decent deep sleep and awake: screen on ratios... It isn't completely preventing deep sleep for me.
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I saw this wakelock first time on my phone.. i installed a new ROM today. I used this rom before also, but i never saw this wakelock. What you have done to reduce this wakelock
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I saw this wakelock first time on my phone.. i installed a new ROM today. I used this rom before also, but i never saw this wakelock. What you have done to reduce this wakelock
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Is been around for a few days... I think it is being caused by updates to background Google services, but I'm not sure. Since I don't know what's causing it, chasing it down by freezing stuff or using greenify odd going to take time. I haven't had that time yet. So I am living with it for now.
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Is been around for a few days... I think it is being caused by updates to background Google services, but I'm not sure. Since I don't know what's causing it, chasing it down by freezing stuff or using greenify odd going to take time. I haven't had that time yet. So I am living with it for now.
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ok, let me try different options.
I tried all the options given in Better Battery Stats app, to minimize gsf wakelocks and disabling maps. I tired these settings for the first time..
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ok, let me try different options.
I tried all the options given in Better Battery Stats app, to minimize gsf wakelocks and disabling maps. I tired these settings for the first time..
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Did it help? Just out of curiosity..
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Did it help? Just out of curiosity..
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yes,it helped after fully recharging and restarting the phone. now no more nlpcollector wakelock on my phone
This sounds very much like the aggregated Network Location Provider that was introduced in the I/O Keynote?? Or is this something different?
It's supposed to use far less power not more... :what: It got a very good reception from the crowd tho.
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This sounds very much like the aggregated Network Location Provider that was introduced in the I/O Keynote?? Or is this something different?
It's supposed to use far less power not more... :what: It got a very good reception from the crowd tho.
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Could be. I haven't had really any time to chase this yet. But for grins, I installed the app AutomateIt, which if I understand correctly takes advantage of some of those new Google features. I turned on a couple options in the app to trigger things "when in a vehicle". I subsequently saw more of this wakelock.
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Anyone fount out what is the solution ?
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This sounds very much like the aggregated Network Location Provider that was introduced in the I/O Keynote?? Or is this something different?
It's supposed to use far less power not more... :what: It got a very good reception from the crowd tho.
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Sounds like it to me too. And yeah, it probably does use less power than the old default way of doing location services. Our problem is that we have tuned our phones to avoid location services as much as possible, and now we are getting them again.
I'm sure someone will figure out the best way to tame it... or we may find out it's battery-friendly enough to actually use location services now
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Sounds like it to me too. And yeah, it probably does use less power than the old default way of doing location services. Our problem is that we have tuned our phones to avoid location services as much as possible, and now we are getting them again.
I'm sure someone will figure out the best way to tame it... or we may find out it's battery-friendly enough to actually use location services now
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It may be battery friendlier than the old location services - it doesn't seem particularly drain inducing to me - but it is running on top of the old location services (I haven't noticed any reduction in wakelocks from them) so it does result in some additional drain.
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Sounds like it to me too. And yeah, it probably does use less power than the old default way of doing location services. Our problem is that we have tuned our phones to avoid location services as much as possible, and now we are getting them again.
I'm sure someone will figure out the best way to tame it... or we may find out it's battery-friendly enough to actually use location services now
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It aggregates it from wifi, data and gps remember.
If you are using wifi - it will be there.
Keep your smart phones smart.
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It may be battery friendlier than the old location services - it doesn't seem particularly drain inducing to me - but it is running on top of the old location services (I haven't noticed any reduction in wakelocks from them) so it does result in some additional drain.
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Yeah, I was under the impression that it's kind of up to the apps to actually USE the new service. If they still go about things the old way then the new service doesn't help anything.
I posted the following on my own thread but I'll be moving my discussion here because it's pretty much the same thing.
I noticed recently that I have two Google related networking services running constantly. They are GoogleLocationService and NetworkLocationService. Are both necessary? I remember only one was there before the new Google Services update. I also have noticed an increase in Android OS under Battery usage and a slight decrease in battery life. I think the two maybe related. Anyone have some insight?
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I think the issue is that the old service and the new service are running simultaneously and is negatively impacting battery instead of saving like what was promised with the new service. Maybe we need to find a way to remove/freeze the old service.
Hi all,
I love my DNA (stock) and I haven't had any issues until the past couple of weeks, when I noticed that my phone started draining battery much more quickly than normal without me changing my usage habits. I'm consistently draining about 10% per hour even when I just pull it out of my pocket every hour or so to check notifications. I've also noticed sluggish behavior as well (lag when unlocking especially).
I got the Wakelock Detector app to see what was causing me issues, but I'm pretty new to it--I'm not sure what is normal and what is a problem. I've disabled a lot of my location services as a result, but that doesn't seem to have solved anything as of yet, which is why I'm posting.
I'm attaching a few screenshots from WLD so you can see what I've got going on. Android System looks awful, but I don't want to disable backup (I like having my app choices and such saved, and don't want to lose them). What should I really chase after to get this draining issue solved?
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There's a known issue with Google services causing drain, its been mentioned in a few places around here, it started with an update a little while ago. You can try removing updates if it let's you, may help, or just have to wait out an update to correct it. I think for now disabling all of the location stuff helps.
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you could also try the newly released Qualcomm Snapdragon BatteryGuru.
If you can I would change kernels. crpalmer's kernel fixed my wakelock issues. I had a maps issue related to location services and disabled maps in Titanium Backup and then later I had wakelock issues that I couldn't pin down but switching to crpalmer's kernel fixed it for me.
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you could also try the newly released Qualcomm Snapdragon BatteryGuru.
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This app looks great! I'll certainly give it a try. I used JuiceDefender on my old Droid Charge and it helped (back in 2011), but I don't think the app is maintained any more.
I'll let you know if it helps.
I have a theory, which may be wrong, is that apps set up all sorts of events that the system tracks and acts upon. As a result, when tracking CPU usage and wake locks, it is often hard to find the culprit behind most of the activity because it registers under system processes rather than directly from the offending app.
So the solution may be to do a factory reset (which is painful) or just freeze some apps to see what difference it makes.
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This app looks great! I'll certainly give it a try. I used JuiceDefender on my old Droid Charge and it helped (back in 2011), but I don't think the app is maintained any more.
I'll let you know if it helps.
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That itself causes wakelocks and is 90% placebo effect.
Having same issue and it is definitely Google. I use Google Maps a lot so disabling location renders it useless. Bad deal since its killing my battery.
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That itself causes wakelocks and is 90% placebo effect.
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If so, this is the best placebo effect ever. Once BatteryGuru trained for 2 days, my battery life has improved dramatically, back to where it used to be (if not better). My phone now can enter deep sleep for longer than 2 minutes over a 10 hour period.
I did see that BatteryGuru was the cause of additional wakelocks, but my real cause for concern was the lack of deep sleep.
I can now make it through a 16 hour day without getting range anxiety.
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That itself causes wakelocks
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Ok... Just about every app causes wakelokcs, big whoop.
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90% placebo effect.
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Yep, getting an extra couple of hours of battery life due to that app is definitely placebo.
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It isn't mentioned in this thread and is a really important recent development. The new play store solves the excessive drains that google play services was having. I've seen mentioned in a few posts above some issues that will be solved by installing the new play store.
The problem I had with battery guru was that it required turning location services on. Since I normally don't run location services unless I need them, having to enable them for the battery savings app to run kind of negates the purpose of the app. It would be nice to hack it up and delete the business that requires location services.
For the poster above who wasn't getting deep sleep, I would try removing battery guru, solve the deep sleep problem and then reinstall battery guru, it might make your battery life even mo betta.
The G2 has a fantastic battery already, why not make it even better?
I like to see how far I can push this phone's battery. In no way does that mean that you need too as well, but for those of you that do want a few more hours or another day, I'm happy to share what I've learned.
After I've spent time learning the quirks of this phone, and most of its respective ROMs, I've come up with quite a few tricks for improving battery life, some specific to this phone, some just in android general. I now get average 3-4 days battery life, when I use the phone quite often during the day all day long.
It is your personal preference on how much of android's background services that you use compared to apps. This is only suggestions for the users that want to improve battery life.
Heres some of the simplest questions you can ask yourself when you go through the settings center:
Do I really need this feature enabled? Do I use it often? Even if I do occasionaly use it, is it that much of a pain to just turn on when I need it?
Do I really need GPS on 24/7? How often do I really use GPS?
How many apps do I need running in the background?
Do I need to keep autobright on, or keep the screen super bright?
That being said, here are some of the simple things that Ive done.
I keep everything off unless I use it every day.
I keep GPS off 24/7, I never use it.
Out of habit, I always close all apps.
I keep autobright off and keep the screen on 14 brightness. Unless Im right outside in the sun its easy to see, and if I am I can just turn it up with the quick setting.
Some of the more advanced stuff I do, that completely varies on your ROM:
Go through all the system apps and freeze anything you dont use. Example being the Picasa uploader (for me at least).
Leave as little system services running as you need. You wouldent believe how many unneeded services android runs. On the stock roms there are TWO location daemons running.
Currently Im using CleanROM, I switch between it and Cyanogen about once a week, just cant make up my mind on stability v. features, but on CleanROM, some of the stuff I have currently froze
Nearly anything involving Verizon, the carrier APKs are massive bloatware.
I disabled a lot of google services, some people may rely on these, personally I dont, the biggest two google apps I use are chrome and Gmail.
If your on a stock based ROM, disable the LG services you dont use. Textlink wastes a huge amount of power, as does QSlide.
(This applies alot more to carrier based roms than it does Cyanogen/AOSP, but even they do have a few unneccesary servcices.) Be careful when you are touching system services, if you dont know what one does, a google on its function is helpful.
Use a different launcher. Excluding the stock google launcher, most factory launchers are very inefficient, LG Home is no exception. Personally, I use SmartLauncher, a very light and very nice looking launcher with a fantastic layout. Nova I know is very light on resources aswell.
The more widgets you have cluttering your screen, the more power they will waste.
I can personally confirm myself that Kitkat based roms have incredible battery life after they settle in for a few days, the kernel level improvements brought with KitKat are very noticable. Currently Gummy Rom and three CM11 builds exist for KitKat, why not give them a try?
If you have unusually high battery usage, check your wakelocks, and see what exactly is using all the power, and you can disable/turn it off and remove that battery drain.
On a final note, comeon guys turn your phones off at night. I have yet to hear a good reason to leave it running over night, all it does is waste power and most commonly let the notification light run for 8 hours. If you use your phone as a alarm, you could turn on airplain mode overnight.
These are just some of the things that I do, if you have any more suggestions, feel free to post them or message me, I'll be glad to add them to the list.
I do not own this device but whats the point of turning all the feature of your phone off just to get a couple more hours out of it just use it like you should and stop worrying too much...
My 2 cents.
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shahkam said:
I do not own this device but whats the point of turning all the feature of your phone off just to get a couple more hours out of it just use it like you should and stop worrying too much...
My 2 cents.
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What I do is abit extreme, but I enjoy seeing how far I can push it. A few people complained of low battery and wondered what I did. The guide is simply suggestions for improving. Most of a phones 'features' are rarely used.
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polaric said:
What I do is abit extreme, but I enjoy seeing how far I can push it. A few people complained of low battery and wondered what I did. The guide is simply suggestions for improving. Most of a phones 'features' are rarely used.
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U buy a smartphone to see how long it last? man you got too much money...
I use everything from 4G to syncing...
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U buy a smartphone to see how long it last? man you got too much money...
I use everything from 4G to syncing...
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I only buy a new phone when Verizon let's me, I just enjoy seeing how far I can push each phone's battery. Some people go crazy on theming, I go crazy on battery life. A few people wondered what I did, so I just made this.
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I think u shouldn't use smartphone. With my G2 I turn on everything from 3g, WiFi, GPS, push and sync everything from mail, Facebook, viber,...
Plz use smartphone, don't let smartphone use u.
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I think u shouldn't use smartphone. With my G2 I turn on everything from 3g, WiFi, GPS, push and sync everything from mail, Facebook, viber,...
Plz use smartphone, don't let smartphone use u.
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I'll say this again, not everyone is aware of some of the lower level services that android runs that are completely pointless and cause a lot of wakelocks. This drills some's battery life down to 8hrs or less, which they then complain about. You would be surprised at the amount of stuff I have enabled.
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I'll say this again, not everyone is aware of some of the lower level services that android runs that are completely pointless and cause a lot of wakelocks. This drills some's battery life down to 8hrs or less, which they then complain about. You would be surprised at the amount of stuff I have enabled.
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So u should make a thread to bring out list junk apps of android. That is more helpful.
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I'll say this again, not everyone is aware of some of the lower level services that android runs that are completely pointless and cause a lot of wakelocks. This drills some's battery life down to 8hrs or less, which they then complain about. You would be surprised at the amount of stuff I have enabled.
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GPS is not pointless, it uses for Facebook, navigation, weather update, yelp and a lot of apps.. what you deem is pointless is different than everyone...your reason to own a smartphone is seriously wrong in so many ways...just saying man but its your money.
Honestly people should just enjoy the phone rather than trying to make it last longer. If your phone can make it through the day then consider that a successful phone.
I assumed everyone used their phone as an alarm. I never turn my phone off subsequently.
Some nice hints for someone needing more battery; however, I disagree with your assertion that closing applications saves power. Assuming you need to open the application again it would make sense to leave the application running (idle) in cached ram.
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Great write up. Thanks for sharing ??
I have just clocked it to 1,5 and frezeed a few LG stuff. I'm always from 5 hour screentime and up. If I just reading a weekend between 8 and 9 [one time ]
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How do u freez the apps?
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Instead of turning it OFF for the night, turn ON Aeroplane mode. That consumes less energy, than a turn off and on. This also solves the alarm problem, and no email or whatsoever shall wake you up at while you sleep
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3thman said:
How do u freez the apps?
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Thanks for the tips!
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Thanks. I found this thread very useful
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I assumed everyone used their phone as an alarm. I never turn my phone off subsequently.
Some nice hints for someone needing more battery; however, I disagree with your assertion that closing applications saves power. Assuming you need to open the application again it would make sense to leave the application running (idle) in cached ram.
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It completely depends on how often said application is opened, and what it does while idle. I know out of hand while I'm at work I see several people with 3-4 games left open on their phone, this is more what I was reffering too.
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polaric said:
Go through all the system apps and freeze anything you dont use. Example being the Picasa uploader (for me at least).
Leave as little system services running as you need. You wouldent believe how many unneeded services android runs. On the stock roms there are TWO location daemons running.
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Could you list all the stuff you freeze? I'd appreciate more specific examples, thanks
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Could you list all the stuff you freeze? I'd appreciate more specific examples, thanks
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I wrote this late last night, so I didnt have time to look through the list of everything I froze, but I'll add it to the OP in the next few minutes since I have a few free moments.