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I've been told that LTE is GSM tech and requires SIM card. HTC is LTE capable device. Can anyone tell me if the Thunderbolt does actually have a SIM slot? or I just have bogus information from people. Thanks.
yes the Thunderbolt requires a sim card
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CyberGhos said:
I've been told that LTE is GSM tech and requires SIM card. HTC is LTE capable device. Can anyone tell me if the Thunderbolt does actually have a SIM slot? or I just have bogus information from people. Thanks.
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It sure does.
Can we swap the SIM card between phones without activation? If yes, I will be VZ customer soon.
CyberGhos said:
Can we swap the SIM card between phones without activation? If yes, I will be VZ customer soon.
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as long as the other device is an LTE device and is certified to work on the VZW network then yes
ddarvish said:
as long as the other device is an LTE device and is certified to work on the VZW network then yes
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Sweetttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt. Thanks
ddarvish said:
as long as the other device is an LTE device and is certified to work on the VZW network then yes
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Isn't it LTE just for data, what about voice?
CyberGhos said:
Can we swap the SIM card between phones without activation? If yes, I will be VZ customer soon.
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What difference does it make, it is not like they charge $35 everytime you activate new device.
My understanding is that LTE is just for data and will be that way for years and for the voice you'll still need to activate the phone (cdma radio).
would swapping the sim work for traveling outside of the country? for use on vacation is why i'm inquiring.
don't think so as it doesn't actually have the GSM radio needed to support it. You can roam in one of the few countries that offer CDMA though.
TheloniousOne said:
would swapping the sim work for traveling outside of the country? for use on vacation is why i'm inquiring.
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Nope. I think you are confusing LTE with GSM. My solution for calling the states when abroad is WIFI calling with Google voice and Sipdroid. If you need to use the phone as a GSM you'll need a GSM capable phone. Verizon does have few global/world phones with gsm radios but not very good choices except maybe the coming-soon DINC2 but it wont be 4g I think.
TheloniousOne said:
would swapping the sim work for traveling outside of the country? for use on vacation is why i'm inquiring.
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The SIM is only for the LTE radio. It only supports data, not voice. And it only supports the 700 mHz band. As far as I know, the US is the only country using that band. And it's most likely locked to Verizon. So, lots of obstacles to using it overseas.
The sim stores all your information on it...3g 4g 1x..without the sim you can only makr emergency calls. So the sim stored more than just the 4g information for your phone to work.
Yep VZW is using a CSIM application by storing all your CDMA credentials also on the SIM card. Think of GSM but the 1X voice protocol is CDMA.
willzzz88 said:
Yep VZW is using a CSIM application by storing all your CDMA credentials also on the SIM card. Think of GSM but the 1X voice protocol is CDMA.
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In other words, probably if you go to a country that has a CDMA network that supports RUIM cards (SIM cards for CDMA), you should be able to pop it in and use it like any GSM customer can with their phones on any GSM network.
As far as I know, only India, Japan, and China have the RUIM support implemented.
When the bionic comes out you can just switch your sim card to it and go.
ruddymart said:
What difference does it make, it is not like they charge $35 everytime you activate new device.
My understanding is that LTE is just for data and will be that way for years and for the voice you'll still need to activate the phone (cdma radio).
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Oh, too bad. I am a phoneholic and change phone very often (sometimes once a month).
Hi, I'm in California and I have an Motorola Atrix with AT&T and I just unlocked my phone because I'm about to switch to T-mobile...
However, my friend told me that AT&T and T-Mobile has different 4G networks. He said the AT&T Atrix can not use 3G or 4G speed on a T-Mobile network, It can only go up to Edge speed.... Is that true? Does anyone know about this?
Hope some people can help me here ...
Thank you
tomcklam said:
Hi, I'm in California and I have an Motorola Atrix with AT&T and I just unlocked my phone because I'm about to switch to T-mobile...
However, my friend told me that AT&T and T-Mobile has different 4G networks. He said the AT&T Atrix can not use 3G or 4G speed on a T-Mobile network, It can only go up to Edge speed.... Is that true? Does anyone know about this?
Hope some people can help me here ...
Thank you
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From everything I have read that is correct, but also know that it won't be much longer till you are back as an AT&T customer since they are acquiring T-Mobile.
tomcklam said:
Hi, I'm in California and I have an Motorola Atrix with AT&T and I just unlocked my phone because I'm about to switch to T-mobile...
However, my friend told me that AT&T and T-Mobile has different 4G networks. He said the AT&T Atrix can not use 3G or 4G speed on a T-Mobile network, It can only go up to Edge speed.... Is that true? Does anyone know about this?
Hope some people can help me here ...
Thank you
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Its true. While both AT&T and T-Mobile use HSPA+ for their "4G" speeds, they run on different bands. If you want 3G/4G, use a T-Mobile phone. Otherwise, enjoy EDGE. Opera Mini with images set to low will be a big help.
T-Mobile leases cellular space from AT&T which is why unlocked AT&T phones can use T-Mobile service. Not sure if it is the phone's software issue that is causing the 4G/3Gnot working. It's possible that T-mobile implemented their so called 4G first but it's still AT&T equipment.....I work for AT&T. Also 4G, is just higher speed 3G, 4G LTE won't be rolling out until next year.
Thank you for the quick reply... I need to get a T-Mobile phone then.
ernestdefoe said:
From everything I have read that is correct, but also know that it won't be much longer till you are back as an AT&T customer since they are acquiring T-Mobile.
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Yep, but sucks that they still charge minutes when I call a T-Mobile number. I'm switching it for my girlfriend, so I can get Unlimited mobile to mobile minutes... I might get a sensation when I switch to T-Mobile
Phoneguy589 said:
T-Mobile leases cellular space from AT&T which is why unlocked AT&T phones can use T-Mobile service. Not sure if it is the phone's software issue that is causing the 4G/3Gnot working. It's possible that T-mobile implemented their so called 4G first but it's still AT&T equipment.....I work for AT&T. Also 4G, is just higher speed 3G, 4G LTE won't be rolling out until next year.
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Good job on the misinformation front.
And also not being helpful, I'm going to assume your in sales and don't actually know anything.
Now on to the OP's question.
T-Mobile uses the same type of technology as AT&T however they operate on different bands. As such most devices that are sold on AT&T will be able work on T-Mobile for phone and edge but don't get 3g or hspa+ due to the radio in the device only supporting some of the bands. Which is why as a general rule AT&T phones such as the iphone, will work on T-Mobile if unlocked but can't use 3g because it doesn't have the ability to operate in the correct MHZ range. Its the same going from T-Mobile to AT&T. My HD2 was awesome, other then the slow data. *Not that my atrix or inspire are much better.
There are exceptions to the rule though. You'll have to check to see which bands the Atrix is capable of using. I know some of the Samsung devices had all the GSM bands so they worked fine on all networks.
the answer is NO the atrix will not work on tmobile USA 3G or 4G network. there, done!
tomcklam said:
Thank you for the quick reply... I need to get a T-Mobile phone then.
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Problem is that if/when the AT&T/T-mobile merger goes through, AT&T will likely flip Tmobile's 3g towers to 4g. All tmobile 3G phones...sorry no more 3g unless you buy a new phone. yay....
linky
AT&T said Monday that it planned to convert T-Mobile's 3G towers to 4G service and move T-Mobile 3G subscribers to AT&T 3G phones.
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gnahc79 said:
Problem is that if/when the AT&T/T-mobile merger goes through, AT&T will likely flip Tmobile's 3g towers to 4g. All tmobile 3G phones...sorry no more 3g unless you buy a new phone. yay....
linky
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They won't just flip a switch and everyone has to buy new phones. They will be phased out as people finish contracts and begin new ones. If they don't, they'll be buying T-Mobile customers all new phones or paying fatcat lawyers to defend them from all the lawsuits.
CaelanT said:
They won't just flip a switch and everyone has to buy new phones. They will be phased out as people finish contracts and begin new ones. If they don't, they'll be buying T-Mobile customers all new phones or paying fatcat lawyers to defend them from all the lawsuits.
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Agreed, sorry I used the term 'flip', never meant to say it would happen instantly . The article I linked stated the switch would take several years. That's not written in stone though, AT&T could move up the timeline if they are losing too many customers to Verizon and Sprint.
This is only an issue if you plan on keeping your tmobile 3g phone for YEARS, which is not likely for anyone that frequents xda .
Weird,
I want to by HTC One to use with T-Mobile in USA, if I select unlocked version from HTC site:
HTC One® Unlocked (32Gb) says: The unlocked version does not support the 1700 band so HSPA+ and LTE will not work on the T-Mobile network.
http://shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=41589
HTC One® Developer Edition (64GB) doen't say this.
http://shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=41599
Is it safe to buy 64G for T-Mobile?
The problem is I can't buy from T-Mobile onlive steore, cos they sell only with a plan (even full-price version).
Thanks.
Make sure you live in area with 1900mhz bands reframed or tmobile lte otherwise you will be stuck with edge speeds
worry said:
Weird,
I want to by HTC One to use with T-Mobile in USA, if I select unlocked version from HTC site:
HTC One® Unlocked (32Gb) says: The unlocked version does not support the 1700 band so HSPA+ and LTE will not work on the T-Mobile network.
http://shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=41589
HTC One® Developer Edition (64GB) doen't say this.
http://shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=41599
Is it safe to buy 64G for T-Mobile?
The problem is I can't buy from T-Mobile onlive steore, cos they sell only with a plan (even full-price version).
Thanks.
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They have the same exact frequencies. HTC goofed up. Its in the forums bro. Anyhow, thing is T-mobile will work on AWS LTE band 4 1700. but not 4G which is hspa. If your in the area with 1900 coverage or LTE then your in luck. If not.. go on to a t-mobile store and get yourself a phone
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They have the same exact frequencies. HTC goofed up. Its in the forums bro. Anyhow, thing is T-mobile will work on AWS LTE band 4 1700. but not 4G which is hspa. If your in the area with 1900 coverage or LTE then your in luck. If not.. go on to a t-mobile store and get yourself a phone
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That's stupid, how do I know my coverage frequency? I'm in Seattle area, sometimes I travel to LA.
worry said:
That's stupid, how do I know my coverage frequency? I'm in Seattle area, sometimes I travel to LA.
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Use this website should help
http://www.airportal.de/
worry said:
That's stupid, how do I know my coverage frequency? I'm in Seattle area, sometimes I travel to LA.
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LA has spotty 1900Mhz coverage on TMo. It's far, far better here with 1700Mhz. That's the exact reason why I bought the TMo version instead. If I need to unlock it, I'll either pay $20 on eBay for a code, or just pay for my device and get one from TMo instead. There isn't any branding on the phone at all, and you'd miss WiFi calling with the HTC store version.
worry said:
That's stupid, how do I know my coverage frequency? I'm in Seattle area, sometimes I travel to LA.
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Bro, if you got always "4G" on your last phone its not going to work on dev edition simply put. no 3g for you sir! if you got "LTE" or "H" on it then dev phone will work for you. if you always got just 4G.. welcome to Edge world on your dev phone.
I just put it to you in simple terms. Off you go Decide either the dev or t-mobile phone. Honestly, its looking like you gotta send that bad boy back and get a t-mobile one
Im in the same boat. I get E on HTC unlocked One, when I had 4G on my Tmobile One S unlocked. So, if I return the phone and get a T-Mobile version I should get 4G like I did with my old One S??
olemetry said:
Im in the same boat. I get E on HTC unlocked One, when I had 4G on my Tmobile One S unlocked. So, if I return the phone and get a T-Mobile version I should get 4G like I did with my old One S??
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Yes.
That is crazy. I dont think that 1700 warning was there two weeks ago when I pre-ordered. Either way, where do I get a T-Mobile unlocked from now? Do I have to buy a regular T-Mobile outright then enter a unlock code? Thanks again.
olemetry said:
That is crazy. I dont think that 1700 warning was there two weeks ago when I pre-ordered. Either way, where do I get a T-Mobile unlocked from now? Do I have to buy a regular T-Mobile outright then enter a unlock code? Thanks again.
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Yes.
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olemetry said:
That is crazy. I dont think that 1700 warning was there two weeks ago when I pre-ordered. Either way, where do I get a T-Mobile unlocked from now? Do I have to buy a regular T-Mobile outright then enter a unlock code? Thanks again.
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It was there all along and everyone who did the research knew it won't get T-Mobile aws band. Your best bet is buying direct from T-Mobile and unlocking.
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Becool0130 said:
Bro, if you got always "4G" on your last phone its not going to work on dev edition simply put. no 3g for you sir! if you got "LTE" or "H" on it then dev phone will work for you. if you always got just 4G.. welcome to Edge world on your dev phone.
I just put it to you in simple terms. Off you go Decide either the dev or t-mobile phone. Honestly, its looking like you gotta send that bad boy back and get a t-mobile one
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T-Mobile's branded phones always say "4G" when on HSPA+. International phones usually idle with "3G" and then change to "H" or "H+" while data is active. Neither of these things is an indication of what frequency your data is being transferred over.
That airportal site linked above seems pretty good; there are other crowdsourced options for finding the PCS refarmed areas, too. A good way to be safe if you're dead set on the developer edition is to wait for LTE to roll out in your area since that will definitely work.
olemetry said:
That is crazy. I dont think that 1700 warning was there two weeks ago when I pre-ordered. Either way, where do I get a T-Mobile unlocked from now? Do I have to buy a regular T-Mobile outright then enter a unlock code? Thanks again.
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You don't need an unlock code if you plan to use it on T-Mobile US (including prepaid MVNOs), only if you plan to use it on AT&T or internationally.
Dude call tmobile and you will be able to order via the phone
olemetry said:
That is crazy. I dont think that 1700 warning was there two weeks ago when I pre-ordered. Either way, where do I get a T-Mobile unlocked from now? Do I have to buy a regular T-Mobile outright then enter a unlock code? Thanks again.
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Wal-mart has it for $148 with 2 years contract.
I got as a gift a Galaxy Mega 6.3" (SCH-R960) and its for US Cellular. They don't have coverage or dealers in my area (CA, US) so I need to flash it to work with any other CDMA network. How could I do that?
tegraconn said:
I got as a gift a Galaxy Mega 6.3" (SCH-R960) and its for US Cellular. They don't have coverage or dealers in my area (CA, US) so I need to flash it to work with any other CDMA network. How could I do that?
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You could possibly just sim unlock the device and use another carriers sim card
cdma
jzsidebott said:
You could possibly just sim unlock the device and use another carriers sim card
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Thanks, but this is a CDMA phone. That can only be done on GSM phones.
tegraconn said:
Thanks, but this is a CDMA phone. That can only be done on GSM phones.
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sorry didnt know that.
I am in the same situation.
please can some one tell me how can i activate this phone with another company here in my country. how to get spc and prl please.
thank you I will appreciated
mastterjuan said:
please can some one tell me how can i activate this phone with another company here in my country. how to get spc and prl please.
thank you I will appreciated
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ive got mine on page plus (verizon service) works fine but then again i flash phones for a living.other then paying someone (the easy way) theres a few ways to flash it just gotta look around the forums
unlocking US Cellular Samsung MEGA
All you have to do is go to a US Cellular store and they can unlock the phone for you. However, this limits you to roaming (voice) and 3G (data). Doesn't cost you any more or mess up your service, but lack of 4G is painful. Also note that the MEGA does not have hotspot mode so you can't use its data capabilities for any other machine.
If store won't unlock is still doable to unlock them and sprint phones relatively easy or pretty cheap depending how handy you are
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Long story short. Will a HTC One AT&T work on the Sprint network? Google has Sprint to AT&T, but not the other way around. I read about different bands and 4G and all that, but simple yes or no, will it work and what will work...
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Long story short. Will a HTC One AT&T work on the Sprint network? Google has Sprint to AT&T, but not the other way around. I read about different bands and 4G and all that, but simple yes or no, will it work and what will work...
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Sprint Phones do not use a SIM card. So any phone that uses a SIM card will not work on the Sprint network. The One uses a SIM card.
SinCere910 said:
Long story short. Will a HTC One AT&T work on the Sprint network? Google has Sprint to AT&T, but not the other way around. I read about different bands and 4G and all that, but simple yes or no, will it work and what will work...
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simple answer ..No you have a GSM phone .. Sprint is a CDMA network