I've been told that LTE is GSM tech and requires SIM card. HTC is LTE capable device. Can anyone tell me if the Thunderbolt does actually have a SIM slot? or I just have bogus information from people. Thanks.
yes the Thunderbolt requires a sim card
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CyberGhos said:
I've been told that LTE is GSM tech and requires SIM card. HTC is LTE capable device. Can anyone tell me if the Thunderbolt does actually have a SIM slot? or I just have bogus information from people. Thanks.
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It sure does.
Can we swap the SIM card between phones without activation? If yes, I will be VZ customer soon.
CyberGhos said:
Can we swap the SIM card between phones without activation? If yes, I will be VZ customer soon.
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as long as the other device is an LTE device and is certified to work on the VZW network then yes
ddarvish said:
as long as the other device is an LTE device and is certified to work on the VZW network then yes
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Sweetttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt. Thanks
ddarvish said:
as long as the other device is an LTE device and is certified to work on the VZW network then yes
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Isn't it LTE just for data, what about voice?
CyberGhos said:
Can we swap the SIM card between phones without activation? If yes, I will be VZ customer soon.
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What difference does it make, it is not like they charge $35 everytime you activate new device.
My understanding is that LTE is just for data and will be that way for years and for the voice you'll still need to activate the phone (cdma radio).
would swapping the sim work for traveling outside of the country? for use on vacation is why i'm inquiring.
don't think so as it doesn't actually have the GSM radio needed to support it. You can roam in one of the few countries that offer CDMA though.
TheloniousOne said:
would swapping the sim work for traveling outside of the country? for use on vacation is why i'm inquiring.
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Nope. I think you are confusing LTE with GSM. My solution for calling the states when abroad is WIFI calling with Google voice and Sipdroid. If you need to use the phone as a GSM you'll need a GSM capable phone. Verizon does have few global/world phones with gsm radios but not very good choices except maybe the coming-soon DINC2 but it wont be 4g I think.
TheloniousOne said:
would swapping the sim work for traveling outside of the country? for use on vacation is why i'm inquiring.
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The SIM is only for the LTE radio. It only supports data, not voice. And it only supports the 700 mHz band. As far as I know, the US is the only country using that band. And it's most likely locked to Verizon. So, lots of obstacles to using it overseas.
The sim stores all your information on it...3g 4g 1x..without the sim you can only makr emergency calls. So the sim stored more than just the 4g information for your phone to work.
Yep VZW is using a CSIM application by storing all your CDMA credentials also on the SIM card. Think of GSM but the 1X voice protocol is CDMA.
willzzz88 said:
Yep VZW is using a CSIM application by storing all your CDMA credentials also on the SIM card. Think of GSM but the 1X voice protocol is CDMA.
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In other words, probably if you go to a country that has a CDMA network that supports RUIM cards (SIM cards for CDMA), you should be able to pop it in and use it like any GSM customer can with their phones on any GSM network.
As far as I know, only India, Japan, and China have the RUIM support implemented.
When the bionic comes out you can just switch your sim card to it and go.
ruddymart said:
What difference does it make, it is not like they charge $35 everytime you activate new device.
My understanding is that LTE is just for data and will be that way for years and for the voice you'll still need to activate the phone (cdma radio).
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Oh, too bad. I am a phoneholic and change phone very often (sometimes once a month).
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I own an HTC Thunderbolt, but I am forced to switch to AT&T. I am able to buy an unlock code for my phone, will I be able to unlock it and it run on AT&T? I would like it to run 3G or better. If you have any info, please let me know. THANKS!!
McNugget93 said:
I own an HTC Thunderbolt, but I am forced to switch to AT&T. I am able to buy an unlock code for my phone, will I be able to unlock it and it run on AT&T? I would like it to run 3G or better. If you have any info, please let me know. THANKS!!
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short answer: no
long answer: read the other posts in the thunderbolt forums for similar questions.
Side note: there are some verizon phones that are "world phones" that have sim cards in them. The droid 2 I think some of the blackberries do. I would return and get one if you can.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...etail&selectedPhoneId=5567&deviceCategoryId=1
the TBolt has a SIM card....
Verizon uses 700mhz and att doesnt. Not compatible
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Ferrari353 said:
the TBolt has a SIM card....
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different type of SIM card. Thunderbolt has one for 4g only. Verizon uses CDMA for 3g and LTE for 4g, and probably some other band for voice. ATT uses GSM for 3g and HSPA+ for 4g. So they are completely NOT compatible.
ATT will be eventually going to LTE, but they could be dicks about it and choose a different frequency of LTE than verizon to prevent people from switching networks (since there's more than one to pick from), thus making it incompatible still.
Currently, all voice is CDMA on verizon still and data is CDMA as mentioned if it's 3g and LTE if it's 4g (which is what the sim card uses as it is the next incarnation of GSM). Next year they will be transitioning to voice over LTE.
Can I get Photon on Boost Mobile and if so, do I get the $49.99 everything plan?
I ask becuause, I'v made it known that I want new EVO 4G LTE and was thinking of giving Photon to my mother.
No one?
afaik the sim is locked for domestic towers but will work in other countrys
rexxxgg said:
afaik the sim is locked for domestic towers but will work in other countrys
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Boost and Sprint are the same company? (almost!)
There is already a thread on this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1314416
If the qualdcom processor on the EVO is ment to support LTE which in turn uses a sim card shouldn't that make the phone a world phone I know it is suppose to have an embeded sim. But my true question is will we be able to reporgram the sim once we get root or will write have to go with more of a hardware mod if we wish to make it a world phone.
Tactic13 said:
If the qualdcom processor on the EVO is ment to support LTE which in turn uses a sim card shouldn't that make the phone a world phone I know it is suppose to have an embeded sim. But my true question is will we be able to reporgram the sim once we get root or will write have to go with more of a hardware mod if we wish to make it a world phone.
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Sprint uses embedded LTE technology to my knowledge, so its not like on Verizon where there is an LTE sim card. Also, this phone is a CDMA phone, and therefore does not have a regular sim card slot (Like phones on ATT or TMo). No software modifications will change this, and I highly doubt that anyone could even attempt to make a hardware modification to make this phone a world phone. Also, and LTE sim card is not the same as a regular sim card, as they perform different actions (access to LTE and the rest of the network is seperate).
Yeah I was thinking that it does not have the slot the thing is that the processor does support gsm also I was kinda hopeing it was like the rezound it is cdma phone on Verizon. It was found out that just by removing verizons LTE sim card and adding a gsm one it allowed the phone to work as a gsm phone.
the evo lte does not have the GSM and HSPA+ radios to be a world phone
When I preordered, the rep told me it was a world phone. I didn't think she was right but I didn't say anything.
Yeah i read the same post on Engadget i think. What a bummer was hopping it was since it is rocking the same processor that the at&t one (correct me if im wrong). Plus like i also stated was hopping it was like the HTC rezound on Verizon that with a experiment it ended up working. O well .... still kinda wanna take it apart and try wouldn't be xda without some experimenting or moding.
My friend has a Droid bionic which wasn't supposed to have GSM support, but it did through some hacks on rootzwiki and using a T-Mobile sim card. I think that the s4 includes a GSM radio, so its probably possible at least if the sim card can be accessed. Lte is GSM based so it is likely that GSM support is there if software is modified like it was on the bionic.
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mlin said:
When I preordered, the rep told me it was a world phone. I didn't think she was right but I didn't say anything.
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Sure, you can use it anywhere in the world that has a compatible CDMA network.
Many identify world phone with GSM radios (which the Evo 4G LTE does not have), but CDMA (which it does have) does work well for roaming in Asia.
I've roamed with my Evo 4G across Japan, Korea, and China for both voice and data. There's a full list of countries with CDMA roaming on the Sprint website. As soon as you arrive in country (if roaming works), you receive a free text with the rates and instructions on how to make international calls.
basically i wanna know if the bell/rogers i747M imei would show up on att imei database ?
i wanna use the non-smartphone unlimited data with it if possible
also whats the diff between the i747 and i747M ? only software ?
if you're trying this in order to use LTE, it won't work. you'd need an LTE simcard in which case AT&T will know you're on a real smartphone.
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if you're trying this in order to use LTE, it won't work. you'd need an LTE simcard in which case AT&T will know you're on a real smartphone.
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You actually don't need an LTE sim card. The HSPA+ sim cards that was previously used still picks up a LTE signal.
Spartoi said:
You actually don't need an LTE sim card. The HSPA+ sim cards that was previously used still picks up a LTE signal.
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i have a 3g sim card from my nokia n8 that gets "3.5 g" speeds, i was planning to cut down into a micro sim. but the main concern is if the Canadian imei's are on att's database or not ....???? maybe i'll have to be the guinea pig on this one ...
Long story short. Will a HTC One AT&T work on the Sprint network? Google has Sprint to AT&T, but not the other way around. I read about different bands and 4G and all that, but simple yes or no, will it work and what will work...
SinCere910 said:
Long story short. Will a HTC One AT&T work on the Sprint network? Google has Sprint to AT&T, but not the other way around. I read about different bands and 4G and all that, but simple yes or no, will it work and what will work...
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Sprint Phones do not use a SIM card. So any phone that uses a SIM card will not work on the Sprint network. The One uses a SIM card.
SinCere910 said:
Long story short. Will a HTC One AT&T work on the Sprint network? Google has Sprint to AT&T, but not the other way around. I read about different bands and 4G and all that, but simple yes or no, will it work and what will work...
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simple answer ..No you have a GSM phone .. Sprint is a CDMA network