basically i wanna know if the bell/rogers i747M imei would show up on att imei database ?
i wanna use the non-smartphone unlimited data with it if possible
also whats the diff between the i747 and i747M ? only software ?
if you're trying this in order to use LTE, it won't work. you'd need an LTE simcard in which case AT&T will know you're on a real smartphone.
dLo GSR said:
if you're trying this in order to use LTE, it won't work. you'd need an LTE simcard in which case AT&T will know you're on a real smartphone.
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You actually don't need an LTE sim card. The HSPA+ sim cards that was previously used still picks up a LTE signal.
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You actually don't need an LTE sim card. The HSPA+ sim cards that was previously used still picks up a LTE signal.
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i have a 3g sim card from my nokia n8 that gets "3.5 g" speeds, i was planning to cut down into a micro sim. but the main concern is if the Canadian imei's are on att's database or not ....???? maybe i'll have to be the guinea pig on this one ...
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hi guys does anybody know if it is possible to get my o2 xdmini s to except a 3 sim card, it excepts all other sim cards (virgin - vodafone) etc
thanks, jim
Think the simple answer is no.
My understanding is that three use a different frequency and specification - ie wideband CDMA for their mobile coverage, which is not compatible with sims from other carriers using gsm and/or 3gsm services.
If you correctly use the word "accept" instead of "except" in your future posts it will be much easier for people to help you.
one thing that i know is that it will work but no 3g
ultraprimeomega said:
one thing that i know is that it will work but no 3g
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how? i sim unlocked my G4 mini s. It works with o2, vodafone and should be fine with orange.
But I did check to use my 3 simcard. However, it doesn't accept the card at all. (not only can't use 3G, but no phone feature is available to use)
wildcolor said:
how? i sim unlocked my G4 mini s. It works with o2, vodafone and should be fine with orange.
But I did check to use my 3 simcard. However, it doesn't accept the card at all. (not only can't use 3G, but no phone feature is available to use)
Q: How do I know my G4 has ever been CID unlocked?
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Try SIM Unlocking again. A 3G sim means that it's capable of 3G speeds in a 3G device. I'm currently using a 3G sim in a non 3G device and all is good.
If you didn't CID unlock your device yourself....more than likely it's still CID locked. G4's were only able to be CID unlocked by imei.com or something like that till now. There's a new CID unlocking tool floating around that works on G4's. Give it a try.
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Try SIM Unlocking again. A 3G sim means that it's capable of 3G speeds in a 3G device. I'm currently using a 3G sim in a non 3G device and all is good.
If you didn't CID unlock your device yourself....more than likely it's still CID locked. G4's were only able to be CID unlocked by imei.com or something like that till now. There's a new CID unlocking tool floating around that works on G4's. Give it a try.
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Thanks for the reply. But i thought the 3 networks and other networks are working completely different.
I have a sim-free phone. I can use O2, Orange, Vodafone, T-mobile, etc. But when I put my 3 sim-card in. It doesn't allow me to use it. I don't care the 3G speeds. It will be fine to me if I can use the 3 sim card to make a phone call.
The same situation for my Wizzard (O2 Mini S).
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Thanks for the reply. But i thought the 3 networks and other networks are working completely different.
I have a sim-free phone. I can use O2, Orange, Vodafone, T-mobile, etc. But when I put my 3 sim-card in. It doesn't allow me to use it. I don't care the 3G speeds. It will be fine to me if I can use the 3 sim card to make a phone call.
The same situation for my Wizzard (O2 Mini S).
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i sometimes use a 3g sim and its the same as my regular sim but as long as the sim is for a GSM network it will work but of curse it has to be on a sim unlocked phone
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i sometimes use a 3g sim and its the same as my regular sim but as long as the sim is for a GSM network it will work but of curse it has to be on a sim unlocked phone
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My Wizzard is Sim Unlocked, CID locked. I can use my regular sim cards, like O2, Vodafone, etc.
But why can't I use my 3g sim card to make any call? Any idea about this will be appreciated.
i believe the wizard phones arent made for 3g. so thats probably why your
3g sim wont work.
i emailed imei-check.co.uk and this was the reply
"This is TECHNICAL IMPOSSIBLE. Your device is a 2G device and can handle all GSM SIM cards.
"3" (3G network) does not have GSM SIM cards. They use special U-SIM cards (note the U in front) which are NOT GSM compatible.
In short: To use a "3" sim card you need a 3G/UMTS device which can handle U-SIM cards. Your device is NOT a 3G/UMTS device and thats why it will NEVER be able to use a U-SIM."
that sucks ive got 12 months left of my contract
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i emailed imei-check.co.uk and this was the reply
"This is TECHNICAL IMPOSSIBLE. Your device is a 2G device and can handle all GSM SIM cards.
"3" (3G network) does not have GSM SIM cards. They use special U-SIM cards (note the U in front) which are NOT GSM compatible.
In short: To use a "3" sim card you need a 3G/UMTS device which can handle U-SIM cards. Your device is NOT a 3G/UMTS device and thats why it will NEVER be able to use a U-SIM."
that sucks ive got 12 months left of my contract
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ouch that really does suck...
jimblob said:
i emailed imei-check.co.uk and this was the reply
"This is TECHNICAL IMPOSSIBLE. Your device is a 2G device and can handle all GSM SIM cards.
"3" (3G network) does not have GSM SIM cards. They use special U-SIM cards (note the U in front) which are NOT GSM compatible.
In short: To use a "3" sim card you need a 3G/UMTS device which can handle U-SIM cards. Your device is NOT a 3G/UMTS device and thats why it will NEVER be able to use a U-SIM."
that sucks ive got 12 months left of my contract
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Exactly, I have 17 and a half months left for my 3 contract.
But the guy "ultraprimeomega" above mentioned, he could use the 3 simcard as well as other simcards. It's very strange to me
I've been told that LTE is GSM tech and requires SIM card. HTC is LTE capable device. Can anyone tell me if the Thunderbolt does actually have a SIM slot? or I just have bogus information from people. Thanks.
yes the Thunderbolt requires a sim card
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CyberGhos said:
I've been told that LTE is GSM tech and requires SIM card. HTC is LTE capable device. Can anyone tell me if the Thunderbolt does actually have a SIM slot? or I just have bogus information from people. Thanks.
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It sure does.
Can we swap the SIM card between phones without activation? If yes, I will be VZ customer soon.
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Can we swap the SIM card between phones without activation? If yes, I will be VZ customer soon.
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as long as the other device is an LTE device and is certified to work on the VZW network then yes
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as long as the other device is an LTE device and is certified to work on the VZW network then yes
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Sweetttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt. Thanks
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as long as the other device is an LTE device and is certified to work on the VZW network then yes
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Isn't it LTE just for data, what about voice?
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Can we swap the SIM card between phones without activation? If yes, I will be VZ customer soon.
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What difference does it make, it is not like they charge $35 everytime you activate new device.
My understanding is that LTE is just for data and will be that way for years and for the voice you'll still need to activate the phone (cdma radio).
would swapping the sim work for traveling outside of the country? for use on vacation is why i'm inquiring.
don't think so as it doesn't actually have the GSM radio needed to support it. You can roam in one of the few countries that offer CDMA though.
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would swapping the sim work for traveling outside of the country? for use on vacation is why i'm inquiring.
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Nope. I think you are confusing LTE with GSM. My solution for calling the states when abroad is WIFI calling with Google voice and Sipdroid. If you need to use the phone as a GSM you'll need a GSM capable phone. Verizon does have few global/world phones with gsm radios but not very good choices except maybe the coming-soon DINC2 but it wont be 4g I think.
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would swapping the sim work for traveling outside of the country? for use on vacation is why i'm inquiring.
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The SIM is only for the LTE radio. It only supports data, not voice. And it only supports the 700 mHz band. As far as I know, the US is the only country using that band. And it's most likely locked to Verizon. So, lots of obstacles to using it overseas.
The sim stores all your information on it...3g 4g 1x..without the sim you can only makr emergency calls. So the sim stored more than just the 4g information for your phone to work.
Yep VZW is using a CSIM application by storing all your CDMA credentials also on the SIM card. Think of GSM but the 1X voice protocol is CDMA.
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Yep VZW is using a CSIM application by storing all your CDMA credentials also on the SIM card. Think of GSM but the 1X voice protocol is CDMA.
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In other words, probably if you go to a country that has a CDMA network that supports RUIM cards (SIM cards for CDMA), you should be able to pop it in and use it like any GSM customer can with their phones on any GSM network.
As far as I know, only India, Japan, and China have the RUIM support implemented.
When the bionic comes out you can just switch your sim card to it and go.
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What difference does it make, it is not like they charge $35 everytime you activate new device.
My understanding is that LTE is just for data and will be that way for years and for the voice you'll still need to activate the phone (cdma radio).
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Oh, too bad. I am a phoneholic and change phone very often (sometimes once a month).
So I pre ordered the ATT version of the Gnote. My current phone is the iPhone 3G. Yes 3G not even 3GS. I heard LTE phones require a sim card specifically for LTE phones. So my question is do I need a new sim card to use LTE on the Gnote or can I use my current sim card (from the iPhone 3G) and still receive LTE speed? I'm looking at my order and I see 3 things "Freight", "Samsung i717" and "Various Sim".
Thanks.
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So I pre ordered the ATT version of the Gnote. My current phone is the iPhone 3G. Yes 3G not even 3GS. I heard LTE phones require a sim card specifically for LTE phones. So my question is do I need a new sim card to use LTE on the Gnote or can I use my current sim card (from the iPhone 3G) and still receive LTE speed? I'm looking at my order and I see 3 things "Freight", "Samsung i717" and "Various Sim".
Thanks.
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Just make sure it's blue and orange, those are our most current ones. Yours is probably blue and white. You can go into any AT&T store and just ask for one. They're free and compatible with your iPhone until your note comes in.
SIM cards don't affect data speeds, but with LTE you should have the newer one
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Thanks MM! I'm gonna guess that "Various Sim" in my order is probably the sim card I will need. If not I'll stop by an ATT store as you mentioned.
Ebae226 said:
Thanks MM! I'm gonna guess that "Various Sim" in my order is probably the sim card I will need. If not I'll stop by an ATT store as you mentioned.
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In your order will be the newest SIM card (orange / blue) but you would have activate it. It may be more convenient to just get one before it comes in.
A few days ago I found out that T-Mobile's 3g won't work on the Photon (only their Edge service) after I'd already ordered 2 T-Mobile pre-paid SIMs. Yesterday I received my T-Mobile pre-paid SIM cards, and sure enough, it's like being back on dial-up.
When I go to StraightTalk's website to order a SIM card and put in my zip code, it tells me that it will send me an AT&T compatible SIM card. Here's my question: Since AT&T is also GSM, will I still be stuck with 2g speeds or will I be able to get 3g? I know that both AT&T and T-Mobile have good service where I live. (Sorry if this seems like a stupid question, but I've been on CDMA for almost a decade).
Thanks in advance!
--Adam
niphoet said:
A few days ago I found out that T-Mobile's 3g won't work on the Photon (only their Edge service) after I'd already ordered 2 T-Mobile pre-paid SIMs. Yesterday I received my T-Mobile pre-paid SIM cards, and sure enough, it's like being back on dial-up.
When I go to StraightTalk's website to order a SIM card and put in my zip code, it tells me that it will send me an AT&T compatible SIM card. Here's my question: Since AT&T is also GSM, will I still be stuck with 2g speeds or will I be able to get 3g? I know that both AT&T and T-Mobile have good service where I live. (Sorry if this seems like a stupid question, but I've been on CDMA for almost a decade).
Thanks in advance!
--Adam
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Yes, you will get 3G data speeds. I have 3G data speeds that beat Sprint's 3G speeds.
Make sure to flash the KDDI radio before doing so or you won't get any results.
tmobile is unique in that they use 1700mhz for 3G (which isnt used by any other US carrier). The photon is a quad band (not penta band) phone and doesnt pick up 1700mhz frequency. Tmobile is making a transition to put 3G on 1900mhz so that it is more iphone friendly. Some locations in the US have already made that transition.
Thanks for the help guys. I guess I'll finish out this month on T-mobile then switch to straight talk.
I've read somewhere that the two LTE networks are compatible, but I cannot get the Verizon sim card to work on an AT&T phone.
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I've read somewhere that the two LTE networks are compatible, but I cannot get the Verizon sim card to work on an AT&T phone.
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This happens because Verizon is a cdma network, at&t is a gsm one, verizon uses lte only for data, and the at&t phone doesn't have cdma hardware