I relocked, will this allow me to get the ota?
If not will i have to download and flash the official build in ph98 form?
fenguepay said:
I relocked, will this allow me to get the ota?
If not will i have to download and flash the official build in ph98 form?
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what ota? in case you didn't notice it never came.
I mean the future one
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anyone?
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if there is ever a ota ... as long as u are relocked u should be able to get the ota
yojoe600 said:
if there is ever a ota ... as long as u are relocked u should be able to get the ota
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Not if he's not on stock though right?
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Not if he's not on stock though right?
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right. need to be re-locked and stock non rooted.
I do not understand why you would want to unroot and unlock to get the OTA "when released". In about a day after it is released I am sure a Dev will have a flash-able version posted.
Maybe but since we don't have s-off don't we have to relock to flash the new firmware and radios? Hopefully we have s-off before official update comes.
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qudwis said:
right. need to be re-locked and stock non rooted.
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I didn't think it mattered if you were rooted or not. I thought the things required to get an OTA update from Verizon were:
1. LOCKED or RELOCKED
2. Stock Recovery
3. Close to Stock ROM
Somebody please correct me if I am wrong...
guyd said:
I didn't think it mattered if you were rooted or not. I thought the things required to get an OTA update from Verizon were:
1. LOCKED or RELOCKED
2. Stock Recovery
3. Close to Stock ROM
Somebody please correct me if I am wrong...
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Yea like I think I read you couldn't be debloated or anything
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werdna87 said:
Yea like I think I read you couldn't be debloated or anything
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You will not get the ota on a custom Rom
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No need to relock. Just unfreeze or restore bloat. Radio and such flashed fine while unlocked
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No need to relock. Just unfreeze or restore bloat. Radio and such flashed fine while unlocked
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Wierd, I read a few posts in another topic that said you had to be locked or relocked in order for the new radio to flash...
What about me?
Well my bootloader screen at the top says ***tampered with*** and then under it says ***re-locked*** and rom is a "clean rom" (ICS based). I purchased (expecting a stock device) and it turned out to be rooted/flashed. What I'm wondering is when Verizon HTC releases the "official" ICS update, will it come to my phone? If so, this would be the quickest fix for me to get stock again. I'm not concerned with "bloatware" etc, I just want things Verizon/HTC stock. I don't download enough apps to be concerned about bloatware and internal space etc. So from what I'm reading here, being "re-locked" and having a flashed rom that's close to being stock should allow me to still get the update, am I correct?
In short, what I mean is, will the update come to my phone like it has done previous android devices (that weren't flashed)? Or will I have to flash another OTA based cooked rom AFTER the official one comes out and someone "cooks" it?
You will not get the OTA if you are rooted, that's for sure. If it's the stock ROM, you'll get the option to update, but it'll fail during the installation. I've seen it happen on a few HTC devices and even my rooted Xyboard tablet lol. But, just to be safe if you DO want the OTA, install the stock ROM (If you're on an ICS ROM, you're going to have a tough time getting back to stock. It's bricked a lot of people's phones. You have to restore the firmware yourself, I think.) and relock your bootloader. Don't be worried if it says **Security Warning** this simply means that your bootloader has been unlocked at one point in time.
Just make sure your phone is on a stock, non-rooted ROM with your phone locked to make sure you have no issues. Better safe than sorry.
lol?
refuse2bstopped said:
Well my bootloader screen at the top says ***tampered with*** and then under it says ***re-locked*** and rom is a "clean rom" (ICS based). I purchased (expecting a stock device) and it turned out to be rooted/flashed. What I'm wondering is when Verizon HTC releases the "official" ICS update, will it come to my phone? If so, this would be the quickest fix for me to get stock again. I'm not concerned with "bloatware" etc, I just want things Verizon/HTC stock. I don't download enough apps to be concerned about bloatware and internal space etc. So from what I'm reading here, being "re-locked" and having a flashed rom that's close to being stock should allow me to still get the update, am I correct?
In short, what I mean is, will the update come to my phone like it has done previous android devices (that weren't flashed)? Or will I have to flash another OTA based cooked rom AFTER the official one comes out and someone "cooks" it?
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I returned a rezound with cleanrom in it.... XD. probably not urs but jsut a question.... is the menu button dim compared to the others?
relock/unlock
You do not need s-off to relock. I unlocked and installed scotts cleanrom. I then a month later relocked installed the leaked OTA ICS update so i could have the new radios. Then unlocked again and installed the cleanrom DE senseless yesterday and i am loving it btw! I get decent battery too (13+ hours with moderate use)!
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Is it possible to take a OTA update while rooted? I am still on the stock Rom. And if so, will it unroot me?
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Nope I believe that is one of the benefits of s-off
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1234567188 said:
Nope I believe that is one of the benefits of s-off
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Wrong!
You can take the update, it will unroot you, AND if the new update includes a new HBOOT it will flash over and give you a security warning and/or S-ON.
your best bet is to wait a few hours and someone will make a rooted version of the new ota... but chances are we will have the ota update weeks before it is ever pushed to any non rooted phones... at the moment .6 is stock.. and all the roms are .9 so all I"m waiting on is a new radio update to hopefully fix this wacky 3g signal I get
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Wrong!
You can take the update, it will unroot you, AND if the new update includes a new HBOOT it will flash over and give you a security warning and/or S-ON.
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What he Said but I Think you have to be Rooted Running stock kernel/Rom for it to even take the OTA
HorsexD said:
What he Said but I Think you have to be Rooted Running stock kernel/Rom for it to even take the OTA
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If it detects you are a lower version then the OTA it will still attempt to upgrade.
Ok. From what I understand, the OTA won't automatically install if I am rooted. Which is good. But if I wanted to I could force the OTA to install?
But from what some people in this thread say, it's not worth it, and I could just get a unrooted version of the OTA from here at some point?
Is that all correct?
I am only interested because I heard there was a big OTA coming on the 16th, and I expect that it will fix a bunch of random stuff on the TB. So I'd like to get it.
I'm pretty sure you need to have stock recovery installed to install the OTA. If using CWM it will not install.
Wow this is interesting...i flashed a new radio yesterday is this the new ota update.
jcase said he thinks the leaked ruu is supposed to be the first OTA.
If i flashed the ota. And u have unlocked bl and cwm, can I flash custom roms from 2.3.4?
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Javi97100 said:
If i flashed the ota. And u have unlocked bl and cwm, can I flash custom roms from 2.3.4?
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Yes you can
K thanks
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I too flashed the OTA( 2.3.4), I wasn't rooted or unlocked when i did it. will there be a way to get the official version when released on my device?
(didn't know if i had to start another thread since OP already started it)
velvetmxo said:
I too flashed the OTA( 2.3.4), I wasn't rooted or unlocked when i did it. will there be a way to get the official version when released on my device?
(didn't know if i had to start another thread since OP already started it)
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Since it hasn't come out yet, no one knows if ota 2.34 we flashed will accept official updates properly. But if that's the case devs will definitely figure out ways to extract the files needed to install them either through fastboot or cwm most likely. You'll want to be unlocked and rooted.
mysticdrew said:
Since it hasn't come out yet, no one knows if ota 2.34 we flashed will accept official updates properly. But if that's the case devs will definitely figure out ways to extract the files needed to install them either through fastboot or cwm most likely. You'll want to be unlocked and rooted.
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looks like i'm out of luck with the unlocking and rooting since it requires me to RSD flash to a different rom prior to updateing to 2.34 when they are saying it causes bricks. guess i'll wait for the official att and see if we can do the same update setup over the beta..love it though..just hate the fact my signal keeps going white then blue...any way thanks
Just a question will I need to be unrooted to receive and or download/ install the ICS upgrade when it is made available?
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From what I recall, you need to relock the bootloader to install OTA updates... So, I would assume you would need at least to relock the bootloader if they do not give us a zip to upgrade to ICS... And even then, to update from zip, you have to relock the bootloader, it will also delete your superuser on the rom, so you will lose root. It will probably also overwrite your recovery at the same time, so in the end, it's best to relock the bootloader before you upgrade to OTA to prevent it from bricking your phone.
With the last update we did not have to relock our bootloader however we did need the stock recovery. We've only had one OTA update since we've obtained root so it's difficult to say what a totally new build will require.
In most cases with various different phones, you can download the OTA to the phone but it will not install if the /system partition has been modified and you have a custom recovery installed. In order to properly update with an OTA, the ROM would need to be returned to stock and you would need to flash the stock recovery back to the phone as the OTA does checks against the system to ensure it's okay to flash. You do not have to be relocked in order to install it, however.
The best idea would be to wait until the OTA has been modified to ignore /system modifications and can be flashed using CWM, but of course that takes a little time until it is available.
I found the Stock Roms forum but will that relock my boot loader as well. I'm thinking it won't but doesn't hurt to ask.
TramainM said:
I found the Stock Roms forum but will that relock my boot loader as well. I'm thinking it won't but doesn't hurt to ask.
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No, the only ways to relock the bootloader is to run the Relocker script in the dev forum, or manually type "fastboot oem lock" in fastboot. Flashing ROMs will not relock the phone for you.
However, it is worth noting that you cannot flash the official stock ROMs without having the phone relocked first.
electronicrice said:
However, it is worth noting that you cannot flash the official stock ROMs without having the phone relocked first.
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Not true. we did flash the stock roms the last time ota update came out and we didnt relock the bootloader. it only required to have stock recovery because you lose root once you flash the stock rom.
Felinos11 said:
Not true. we did flash the stock roms the last time ota update came out and we didnt relock the bootloader. it only required to have stock recovery because you lose root once you flash the stock rom.
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You must relock the bootloader to flash the RUU file.
i think i will wait until one of the developers or x makes a ota rooted build, usually when all the major ota comes somebody makes a rooted flash leak about it,
electronicrice said:
No, the only ways to relock the bootloader is to run the Relocker script in the dev forum, or manually type "fastboot oem lock" in fastboot. Flashing ROMs will not relock the phone for you.
However, it is worth noting that you cannot flash the official stock ROMs without having the phone relocked first.
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Thank You!
Felinos11 said:
Not true. we did flash the stock roms the last time ota update came out and we didnt relock the bootloader. it only required to have stock recovery because you lose root once you flash the stock rom.
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I can assure you that you did not. What I'm talking about is the RUU stock ROM file. But the point is moot because you're wrong.
Hi everyone,
I just s/w HTC customer service today about the ICS 4.0.x update & Sense x.x update.
Well, customer service has told me that they are working on the release of ICS for the Amaze 4G, our phone.
The customer service rep stated "1st quarter of this year."
Sorry I couldn't squeeze more info. out!
Enjoy........Until another Google forced phone & OS comes out! $$$$
stefnuts said:
Hi everyone,
I just s/w HTC customer service today about the ICS 4.0.x update & Sense x.x update.
Well, customer service has told me that they are working on the release of ICS for the Amaze 4G, our phone.
The customer service rep stated "1st quarter of this year."
Sorry I couldn't squeeze more info. out!
Enjoy........Until another Google forced phone & OS comes out! $$$$
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I squeezed out February out of the rep I was talking too. Having a little sister with a cute voice comes in handy
jkozan said:
Just a question will I need to be unrooted to receive and or download/ install the ICS upgrade when it is made available?
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Nah. XBoarder56 will have it for us before tmo does Support our Devs
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TramainM said:
I squeezed out February out of the rep I was talking too. Having a little sister with a cute voice comes in handy
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How dare you use your sister for your evil deeds!!! Lol
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fuego77 said:
How dare you use your sister for your evil deeds!!! Lol
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Easy a script, Q cards, and 10 bucks =D
TramainM said:
I squeezed out February out of the rep I was talking too. Having a little sister with a cute voice comes in handy
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go on....
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LOL.......
o crap we literally had the same exact thread started after this ....why was two necessary? I answered exactly the same way as binary!!! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1484426
Ok I'm all set now, I got everything flashed, but now I sill have question.
I started with the ENG H boot then I wen to the safer hacked one.
I'm looking for ROMS now and they have a PH98IMG file. Is that the kernel or updated firmware? I wouldn't want to flash different firmware right?
also what about the old firmware patch for ICS roms?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614180
Do I need to be using that as Im still on the GM H boot?
and finally what about mainver errors? since Im s off will that still warn me?
I just want to be careful not to do anything I shouldn't now that most of the safety nets are gone.
Also sorry of my questions are silly, its late at work and I've been starting at this screen all day. Its time to go.
thanks
loki993 said:
Ok I'm all set now, I got everything flashed, but now I sill have question.
I started with the ENG H boot then I wen to the safer hacked one.
I'm looking for ROMS now and they have a PH98IMG file. Is that the kernel or updated firmware? I wouldn't want to flash different firmware right?
also what about the old firmware patch for ICS roms?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614180
Do I need to be using that as Im still on the GM H boot?
and finally what about mainver errors? since Im s off will that still warn me?
I just want to be careful not to do anything I shouldn't now that most of the safety nets are gone.
Also sorry of my questions are silly, its late at work and I've been starting at this screen all day. Its time to go.
thanks
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ROMs generally will never have firmware present unless it specifically states otherwise (perhaps somebody will release one after an OTA if there's a new firmware update). Prior to last week, we all had S-ON (well most of us) so all ROMs came with a script that would dump the boot.img (kernel and RAMdisk) into a PH98IMG.zip, then reboot to bootloader so you can flash it.
Use the old firmware patch for ICS ROMs only if you are on HBOOT 2.11 or lower.
I'm not sure about mainver issues... I don't think they matter now... but if you do get that error there's a simple fix thats been around for awhile.
I am on 2.11 so I would need the patch. Is it ok to use even it I'm not on am ics Rom, should I flash it just in case or wait until I need it.
Yeah I was kinda thinking the same thing about the mainver. Not sure either though
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loki993 said:
I am on 2.11 so I would need the patch. Is it ok to use even it I'm not on am ics Rom, should I flash it just in case or wait until I need it.
Yeah I was kinda thinking the same thing about the mainver. Not sure either though
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The patch is apart of the system so you only flash it when you are going to run a ics Rom based on the ics firmware. You already have the patch files in the Rom you are running if its GB. But when you flash a new Rom the system is wiped which is why you need to flash the patch. I hope I explained that ok.
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Thanks for this thread, answered some of my nagging questions
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The patch is apart of the system so you only flash it when you are going to run a ics Rom based on the ics firmware. You already have the patch files in the Rom you are running if its GB. But when you flash a new Rom the system is wiped which is why you need to flash the patch. I hope I explained that ok.
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I understand, its ok. You right though dont know what I was thinking, of course the system gets wiped.
Im debating which ROM to run now. I was going to go with one of the BAMFs, but I also would mind a senseless ROM either.
Is it wrong that I actually kinda like Sense, I just wish it didnt bog the phone at times.
Also I thinking its probably best to say on the 2.11 firmware, that way I can still run GB if I want and go to ICS ROMS too if I want with the patch.
I like sense too especially since this is my first HTC phone so its something different for me. I had Motorola's in the past. I'm on GB firmware with the eng hboot and running ics Clean Rom.
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Well Sense is certainly an upgrade for me from TouchWiz....I miss a few things but overall it is better...
I think you would be happy with CleanROM, extremely fast and reliable ICS build. You would never know it wasn't stock.
I have my own silly question...why do I need htcdev unlocked to get s-off. Just rooted and s-offed my of MT4G for the fun of it. Seems like we should be able to s-off without official unlock support
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Geoi1006 said:
I have my own silly question...why do I need htcdev unlocked to get s-off. Just rooted and s-offed my of MT4G for the fun of it. Seems like we should be able to s-off without official unlock support
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Not sure about MT4G, but I don't think the control bear program can access everything it needs on the Rezound without being unlocked. Just a guess mind you .
Geoi1006 said:
I have my own silly question...why do I need htcdev unlocked to get s-off. Just rooted and s-offed my of MT4G for the fun of it. Seems like we should be able to s-off without official unlock support
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You have to be rooted to acquire s-off. Up until this point you had to be unlocked to acquire root. Now, if you are s-off you can root without unlocking. It's a vicious circle! Lol!
I just haven't gotten to unlock since I don't have home internet access
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Hi guys, quick question.
On GB Right now with a HTC AMaze S-On.. Bootloader Relocked
Just downloaded the file
RUBY_ICS_35_S_TMOUS_2.14.531.3_R2_Radio_1.14.550L.17DC_30.78.550L.15_release_262141_signed
How do I flash this? Do I rename it as PH85IMG.Zip?
After renaming do I enter bootloader?
Thanks!
nitrogen618 said:
Hi guys, quick question.
On GB Right now with a HTC AMaze S-On.. Bootloader Relocked
Just downloaded the file
RUBY_ICS_35_S_TMOUS_2.14.531.3_R2_Radio_1.14.550L.17DC_30.78.550L.15_release_262141_signed
How do I flash this? Do I rename it as PH85IMG.Zip?
After renaming do I enter bootloader?
Thanks!
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Same here. I want to get ICS back but I don't know what to do. Now my phones stuck with no rom
don't flash the ICS ruu if you are still on Gingerbread. If you are unable to accept the O T A update to ICS then you will need to s off your device in order to flash the ICS ruu.
If you are able to accept the ICS update, then all you need to do is root your phone and you can flash any custom ICS ROM without ever having to worry about the ruu. Unless of course you want to revert everything back to as it is out of the box then you will need to re l
don't flash the ICS ruu if you are still on Gingerbread. If you are unable to accept the O T A update to ICS then you will need to s off your device in order to flash the ICS ruu.
If you are able to accept the ICS update, then all you need to do is root your phone and you can flash any custom ICS ROM without ever having to worry about the ruu. Unless of course you want to revert everything back to as it is out of the box then you will need to relock the bootloader, and flash the ruu.
However you are correct on how you renamed the ruu to PH18IMG just don't add dot zip or it will not work because it's already a ZIP file
Now to make sure you don't screw yourself, absolutely never flash PH18IMG I c s image over gingerbread or you will brick your device or possibly semi brick your device.
Do keep in mind that there is an amaze 4 G Bible that will teach you anything and everything you need to know about screwing with this phone lol
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Spastic909 said:
don't flash the ICS ruu if you are still on Gingerbread. If you are unable to accept the O T A update to ICS then you will need to s off your device in order to flash the ICS ruu.
If you are able to accept the ICS update, then all you need to do is root your phone and you can flash any custom ICS ROM without ever having to worry about the ruu. Unless of course you want to revert everything back to as it is out of the box then you will need to re l
don't flash the ICS ruu if you are still on Gingerbread. If you are unable to accept the O T A update to ICS then you will need to s off your device in order to flash the ICS ruu.
If you are able to accept the ICS update, then all you need to do is root your phone and you can flash any custom ICS ROM without ever having to worry about the ruu. Unless of course you want to revert everything back to as it is out of the box then you will need to relock the bootloader, and flash the ruu.
However you are correct on how you renamed the ruu to PH18IMG just don't add dot zip or it will not work because it's already a ZIP file
Now to make sure you don't screw yourself, absolutely never flash PH18IMG I c s image over gingerbread or you will brick your device or possibly semi brick your device.
Do keep in mind that there is an amaze 4 G Bible that will teach you anything and everything you need to know about screwing with this phone lol
If you found this helpful at all please hit the thanks button
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Um you seen a bit mis-informed in this area, yes you can flash the ICS ruu from GB since it's upgrading the device's system files, you can even flash the same ruu over the current system setup of the same file version, only thing you cannot do without s-off is downgrade files/flash an older version ruu.
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Um you seen a bit mis-informed in this area, yes you can flash the ICS ruu from GB since it's upgrading the device's system files, you can even flash the same ruu over the current system setup of the same file version, only thing you cannot do without s-off is downgrade files/flash an older version ruu.
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First off I'm not misinformed dude! You've been being kind of a **** lately by the way. I simply confuse myself by saying ruu instead of leaked I c s ROM because if I'm correct which I hope I am this time you can't flash the leaked version without s off. Is that better
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Spastic909 said:
First off I'm not misinformed dude! You've been being kind of a **** lately by the way. I simply confuse myself by saying ruu instead of leaked I c s ROM because if I'm correct which I hope I am this time you can't flash the leaked version without s off. Is that better
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The leaked roms are ruu files, I haven't been a **** either, your attitude is very close to that but I shall say no more on it, I've noticed how you talk to new members, so yeah, last time I talked to you about it, you snapped at me as if I was insulting or flaming you in any way, but that's all I have to say on the topic, if I see the rude attitude or response again, I will be reporting you.
That is all, have a good night, sir.
Spastic909 said:
First off I'm not misinformed dude! You've been being kind of a **** lately by the way. I simply confuse myself by saying ruu instead of leaked I c s ROM because if I'm correct which I hope I am this time you can't flash the leaked version without s off. Is that better
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Actually, you are misinformed. You can flash the ICS "Leak". It's actually an official ROM. You can flash it over Gingerbread. The only time you need S-Off is when your Amaze is for another carrier and you want to use a ROM that is not made for your carrier.