Is it possible to take a OTA update while rooted? - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Is it possible to take a OTA update while rooted? I am still on the stock Rom. And if so, will it unroot me?
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Nope I believe that is one of the benefits of s-off
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1234567188 said:
Nope I believe that is one of the benefits of s-off
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Wrong!
You can take the update, it will unroot you, AND if the new update includes a new HBOOT it will flash over and give you a security warning and/or S-ON.

your best bet is to wait a few hours and someone will make a rooted version of the new ota... but chances are we will have the ota update weeks before it is ever pushed to any non rooted phones... at the moment .6 is stock.. and all the roms are .9 so all I"m waiting on is a new radio update to hopefully fix this wacky 3g signal I get

ikithme said:
Wrong!
You can take the update, it will unroot you, AND if the new update includes a new HBOOT it will flash over and give you a security warning and/or S-ON.
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What he Said but I Think you have to be Rooted Running stock kernel/Rom for it to even take the OTA

HorsexD said:
What he Said but I Think you have to be Rooted Running stock kernel/Rom for it to even take the OTA
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If it detects you are a lower version then the OTA it will still attempt to upgrade.

Ok. From what I understand, the OTA won't automatically install if I am rooted. Which is good. But if I wanted to I could force the OTA to install?
But from what some people in this thread say, it's not worth it, and I could just get a unrooted version of the OTA from here at some point?
Is that all correct?
I am only interested because I heard there was a big OTA coming on the 16th, and I expect that it will fix a bunch of random stuff on the TB. So I'd like to get it.

I'm pretty sure you need to have stock recovery installed to install the OTA. If using CWM it will not install.

Wow this is interesting...i flashed a new radio yesterday is this the new ota update.

jcase said he thinks the leaked ruu is supposed to be the first OTA.

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[Q] [Request] Ruby_WIND_1.45.1500.3

Hello, I did an OTA update and now I have version 1.45.1500.3 and cannot revert back to stock because the RUU on the site is version 1.45.1500.2 and it's impossible to downgrade. I was wondering if anyone has the current version?
uofaboy said:
Hello, I did an OTA update and now I have version 1.45.1500.3 and cannot revert back to stock because the RUU on the site is version 1.45.1500.2 and it's impossible to downgrade. I was wondering if anyone has the current version?
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theres no way to get current version thats why i say dont update otas you see the reason now?
xboarder56 said:
theres no way to get current version thats why i say dont update otas you see the reason now?
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I warned people about this in another thread, and told them you're going to be mad X. No one listens!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1427897
In my defense, I had just joined the forum yesterday and for the first time unlocked the bootloader, removed root, flashed a custom rom and kernel. But the OTA update was performed before I even came onto XDA, so I didn't know that because of it I would not be able to revert to stock. Now I do.
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uofaboy said:
In my defense, I had just joined the forum yesterday and for the first time unlocked the bootloader, removed root, flashed a custom rom and kernel. But the OTA update was performed before I even came onto XDA, so I didn't know that because of it I would not be able to revert to stock. Now I do.
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Well the bright side is I bet you never make that mistake again.
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Rooted: official update consequences

So, what happens to a rooted phone when the official update to ics comes out? Will you be able to update through Verizon, or will a dev need to work on it first? I know there are some great ics roms out there already, but what if you wanted to try the stock update? My wife also has a rezound and she won't let me "mess" with hers.
Thanks!
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blacksmithjim said:
So, what happens to a rooted phone when the official update to ics comes out? Will you be able to update through Verizon, or will a dev need to work on it first? I know there are some great ics roms out there already, but what if you wanted to try the stock update? My wife also has a rezound and she won't let me "mess" with hers.
Thanks!
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use ruu and go back to stock for the update
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466474
go here and do #1~3
for #3, http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...5&postcount=58
go here and download and use this file
this one is the lastest stock ruu.
One of two options:
1. If you are already rooted, wait for a Dev to build a ROM based on the OTA so you can safely flash it.
2. You can unroot/relock your phone to accept the OTA update.
The problem with # 2 is the current methods to achieve root may not work on the updated software so it is possible to be stuck without root for awhile (unless someone finds a work-around).
The way I understand it is simple. You will be able to upgrade to a rooted is rom, however you will not be able to update the radios if you are s-on. I'm Gonna hold out. There will be an unlock tool after ics drops...whether same day or eventually.
A rooted version of the OTA rom will be released within a couple hours of the OTA.

Ge the OTA, i relocked....

I relocked, will this allow me to get the ota?
If not will i have to download and flash the official build in ph98 form?
fenguepay said:
I relocked, will this allow me to get the ota?
If not will i have to download and flash the official build in ph98 form?
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what ota? in case you didn't notice it never came.
I mean the future one
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anyone?
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if there is ever a ota ... as long as u are relocked u should be able to get the ota
yojoe600 said:
if there is ever a ota ... as long as u are relocked u should be able to get the ota
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Not if he's not on stock though right?
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werdna87 said:
Not if he's not on stock though right?
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right. need to be re-locked and stock non rooted.
I do not understand why you would want to unroot and unlock to get the OTA "when released". In about a day after it is released I am sure a Dev will have a flash-able version posted.
Maybe but since we don't have s-off don't we have to relock to flash the new firmware and radios? Hopefully we have s-off before official update comes.
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qudwis said:
right. need to be re-locked and stock non rooted.
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I didn't think it mattered if you were rooted or not. I thought the things required to get an OTA update from Verizon were:
1. LOCKED or RELOCKED
2. Stock Recovery
3. Close to Stock ROM
Somebody please correct me if I am wrong...
guyd said:
I didn't think it mattered if you were rooted or not. I thought the things required to get an OTA update from Verizon were:
1. LOCKED or RELOCKED
2. Stock Recovery
3. Close to Stock ROM
Somebody please correct me if I am wrong...
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Yea like I think I read you couldn't be debloated or anything
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werdna87 said:
Yea like I think I read you couldn't be debloated or anything
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You will not get the ota on a custom Rom
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No need to relock. Just unfreeze or restore bloat. Radio and such flashed fine while unlocked
esheesle said:
No need to relock. Just unfreeze or restore bloat. Radio and such flashed fine while unlocked
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Wierd, I read a few posts in another topic that said you had to be locked or relocked in order for the new radio to flash...
What about me?
Well my bootloader screen at the top says ***tampered with*** and then under it says ***re-locked*** and rom is a "clean rom" (ICS based). I purchased (expecting a stock device) and it turned out to be rooted/flashed. What I'm wondering is when Verizon HTC releases the "official" ICS update, will it come to my phone? If so, this would be the quickest fix for me to get stock again. I'm not concerned with "bloatware" etc, I just want things Verizon/HTC stock. I don't download enough apps to be concerned about bloatware and internal space etc. So from what I'm reading here, being "re-locked" and having a flashed rom that's close to being stock should allow me to still get the update, am I correct?
In short, what I mean is, will the update come to my phone like it has done previous android devices (that weren't flashed)? Or will I have to flash another OTA based cooked rom AFTER the official one comes out and someone "cooks" it?
You will not get the OTA if you are rooted, that's for sure. If it's the stock ROM, you'll get the option to update, but it'll fail during the installation. I've seen it happen on a few HTC devices and even my rooted Xyboard tablet lol. But, just to be safe if you DO want the OTA, install the stock ROM (If you're on an ICS ROM, you're going to have a tough time getting back to stock. It's bricked a lot of people's phones. You have to restore the firmware yourself, I think.) and relock your bootloader. Don't be worried if it says **Security Warning** this simply means that your bootloader has been unlocked at one point in time.
Just make sure your phone is on a stock, non-rooted ROM with your phone locked to make sure you have no issues. Better safe than sorry.
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refuse2bstopped said:
Well my bootloader screen at the top says ***tampered with*** and then under it says ***re-locked*** and rom is a "clean rom" (ICS based). I purchased (expecting a stock device) and it turned out to be rooted/flashed. What I'm wondering is when Verizon HTC releases the "official" ICS update, will it come to my phone? If so, this would be the quickest fix for me to get stock again. I'm not concerned with "bloatware" etc, I just want things Verizon/HTC stock. I don't download enough apps to be concerned about bloatware and internal space etc. So from what I'm reading here, being "re-locked" and having a flashed rom that's close to being stock should allow me to still get the update, am I correct?
In short, what I mean is, will the update come to my phone like it has done previous android devices (that weren't flashed)? Or will I have to flash another OTA based cooked rom AFTER the official one comes out and someone "cooks" it?
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I returned a rezound with cleanrom in it.... XD. probably not urs but jsut a question.... is the menu button dim compared to the others?
relock/unlock
You do not need s-off to relock. I unlocked and installed scotts cleanrom. I then a month later relocked installed the leaked OTA ICS update so i could have the new radios. Then unlocked again and installed the cleanrom DE senseless yesterday and i am loving it btw! I get decent battery too (13+ hours with moderate use)!

OTA update

can this update be done if you are rooted and unlock?
It is always recommended to not accept any ota updates once rooted as you may lose root and the ability to root in the future. The dev's will post a stock rooted updated rom within a day or two. I would wait and flash that.
I'm sure you could, but give the devs time they will work this into an update fairly quickly I"m sure. you never know what OTA is going to break root or worse.
I wouldn't take the OTA. be patient
ekz13 said:
I'm sure you could, but give the devs time they will work this into an update fairly quickly I"m sure. you never know what OTA is going to break root or worse.
I wouldn't take the OTA. be patient
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Thanks I appreciate the quick response.
I have root with the stock ROM, and I am using RootKeeper. Has anyone verified that you can apply the OTA update and restore root with RootKeeper?
ReproOne said:
I have root with the stock ROM, and I am using RootKeeper. Has anyone verified that you can apply the OTA update and restore root with RootKeeper?
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I wouldn't trust it.
ReproOne said:
I have root with the stock ROM, and I am using RootKeeper. Has anyone verified that you can apply the OTA update and restore root with RootKeeper?
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Take the advises from above and wait. I'm also waiting a little longer before flashing a ROM. If you want the fixes from this update just download MEAN ROM and install it, it already has most of this fixes incorporate. The most important feature for me is tethering and I already got it.
chico1983 said:
can this update be done if you are rooted and unlock?
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It's being discussed all over the boards... But, yes, this update breaks root...
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natefuhr said:
It's being discussed all over the boards... But, yes, this update breaks root...
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Anyone know if it removes s-off?
I'm half rooted not unlock can I take it i don't mind if I loose it
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General rule of thumb is to never accept OTAs if you plan on being or are rooted. If you have s-off that should be safe though, far as I know the only way to lose it is to manually turn it back on.
xHausx said:
General rule of thumb is to never accept OTAs if you plan on being or are rooted. If you have s-off that should be safe though, far as I know the only way to lose it is to manually turn it back on.
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There is a new hboot included in this ota so i would be very careful even if s-off.
xHausx said:
General rule of thumb is to never accept OTAs if you plan on being or are rooted. If you have s-off that should be safe though, far as I know the only way to lose it is to manually turn it back on.
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njfoses said:
There is a new hboot included in this ota so i would be very careful even if s-off.
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Dang njfoses. xHausx's comment was going to give me confidence enough to update and then you go and throw some doubt back in my mind. Oh well.

[Q] Question about restoring with LGNPST and future ota updates

Excuse my newness but this is a bit confusing. Since I have flashed my phone back to stock from being rooted/unlocked using LGNPST, not using my original bootloader backup from freegee or anything like that...just straight from the tutorial in irc, the rom and all....will i be able to get an at&t jellybean update ota when they finally decide to release it? It seems there was an OTA update to E97011c and I am at E97010o right now and it says no update available. Does that mean I can't get ota updates now? I can't seem to find a direct answer to this.
gwarokk said:
Excuse my newness but this is a bit confusing. Since I have flashed my phone back to stock from being rooted/unlocked using LGNPST, not using my original bootloader backup from freegee or anything like that...just straight from the tutorial in irc, the rom and all....will i be able to get an at&t jellybean update ota when they finally decide to release it? It seems there was an OTA update to E97011c and I am at E97010o right now and it says no update available. Does that mean I can't get ota updates now? I can't seem to find a direct answer to this.
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you should be able to flash the new ROM through lgpnst and mabey the ota. I think there was a problem with the latest ota for people rooted and unrooted.... And there should be custom ROMs based off of the new release that you could flash through recovery if I'm not mistaken
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Dr0!dFreek said:
you should be able to flash the new ROM through lgpnst and mabey the ota. I think there was a problem with the latest ota for people rooted and unrooted.... And there should be custom ROMs based off of the new release that you could flash through recovery if I'm not mistaken
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Right, but does unlocking/rooting/installing canadian JB, then unrooting and relocking bar me in any way from receiving future offical ota updates from at&t? I've probably been phrasing the question wrong
You will be able to ota. The process the use to tell if you are eligible is just odd, so sometimes it can take a few days / weeks to get it.
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SnowLeopardJB said:
You will be able to ota. The process the use to tell if you are eligible is just odd, so sometimes it can take a few days / weeks to get it.
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This answered my question. Thanks for the reply.

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