So, what happens to a rooted phone when the official update to ics comes out? Will you be able to update through Verizon, or will a dev need to work on it first? I know there are some great ics roms out there already, but what if you wanted to try the stock update? My wife also has a rezound and she won't let me "mess" with hers.
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blacksmithjim said:
So, what happens to a rooted phone when the official update to ics comes out? Will you be able to update through Verizon, or will a dev need to work on it first? I know there are some great ics roms out there already, but what if you wanted to try the stock update? My wife also has a rezound and she won't let me "mess" with hers.
Thanks!
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use ruu and go back to stock for the update
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466474
go here and do #1~3
for #3, http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...5&postcount=58
go here and download and use this file
this one is the lastest stock ruu.
One of two options:
1. If you are already rooted, wait for a Dev to build a ROM based on the OTA so you can safely flash it.
2. You can unroot/relock your phone to accept the OTA update.
The problem with # 2 is the current methods to achieve root may not work on the updated software so it is possible to be stuck without root for awhile (unless someone finds a work-around).
The way I understand it is simple. You will be able to upgrade to a rooted is rom, however you will not be able to update the radios if you are s-on. I'm Gonna hold out. There will be an unlock tool after ics drops...whether same day or eventually.
A rooted version of the OTA rom will be released within a couple hours of the OTA.
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Is it possible to take a OTA update while rooted? I am still on the stock Rom. And if so, will it unroot me?
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Nope I believe that is one of the benefits of s-off
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Nope I believe that is one of the benefits of s-off
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Wrong!
You can take the update, it will unroot you, AND if the new update includes a new HBOOT it will flash over and give you a security warning and/or S-ON.
your best bet is to wait a few hours and someone will make a rooted version of the new ota... but chances are we will have the ota update weeks before it is ever pushed to any non rooted phones... at the moment .6 is stock.. and all the roms are .9 so all I"m waiting on is a new radio update to hopefully fix this wacky 3g signal I get
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Wrong!
You can take the update, it will unroot you, AND if the new update includes a new HBOOT it will flash over and give you a security warning and/or S-ON.
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What he Said but I Think you have to be Rooted Running stock kernel/Rom for it to even take the OTA
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What he Said but I Think you have to be Rooted Running stock kernel/Rom for it to even take the OTA
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If it detects you are a lower version then the OTA it will still attempt to upgrade.
Ok. From what I understand, the OTA won't automatically install if I am rooted. Which is good. But if I wanted to I could force the OTA to install?
But from what some people in this thread say, it's not worth it, and I could just get a unrooted version of the OTA from here at some point?
Is that all correct?
I am only interested because I heard there was a big OTA coming on the 16th, and I expect that it will fix a bunch of random stuff on the TB. So I'd like to get it.
I'm pretty sure you need to have stock recovery installed to install the OTA. If using CWM it will not install.
Wow this is interesting...i flashed a new radio yesterday is this the new ota update.
jcase said he thinks the leaked ruu is supposed to be the first OTA.
I haven't found a straight answer yet, so I am posting here. I am currently stock but I would like to root some time in the near future. I would also like to try the update before rooting. However, I am concerned that if I apply the update that the root method in the development forums may no longer be valid. Is it possible that Verizon could lock down the phone with this OTA update such that I will not be able to root after it is applied?
Thanks,
Josh
The ota is the exact same as what was leak about 2 weeks ago. JCase compared both and made that determination. I believe he also made a root unsigned copy for down load. Most devs have already incorporated this update into their roms. The only thing is the new radio will need flashed. Check out the development section and look for the roms posted by jcase. It is best not to run the ota/leaked on the older radio as they compliment each other. Any other questiins pm.
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I thought this update included the new radios?
U would have to flash the entire ruu, and that will give u everything. Most rooted flash the rom through recovery the flash radio through hboot. Jcase has a nice op in the development section.
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So if I update my stock phone via the ota update, I can still root afterwards if I decide no problem?
It appears that yes you should be able to root the ota via JCase's root tutorial.
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If u decide to flash a custom rom, the update is in most of them, u would just have to flash the radio separate.
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Hey Guys,
I rooted my Thunderbolt but I really don't like it anymore. I'm really new to this and just want to go back to the factory settings. I can't get the OTA update doing it manually and its pissing me off.... can anyone help me?
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Hey Guys,
I rooted my Thunderbolt but I really don't like it anymore. I'm really new to this and just want to go back to the factory settings. I can't get the OTA update doing it manually and its pissing me off.... can anyone help me?
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If you're rooted, you could have gotten the OTA update weeks ago. But if you are determined to return to stock for whatever reason, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009423.
A lot of roms already have the OTA's long before they are released, i use those and dont even bother with OTA's anymore. I would really consider staying with root. theres so much more you can do i dont see why anyone wouldnt want it. but if you are determined to then the link mentioned above works fine.
What radio should I flash via hboot on Das BAMF v1.6.3? There are 4 combos to choose from.
Which radio combo is included in the OTA that just went out a few days ago? Is that the one I should choose for Das BAMF v1.6.3?
I relocked, will this allow me to get the ota?
If not will i have to download and flash the official build in ph98 form?
fenguepay said:
I relocked, will this allow me to get the ota?
If not will i have to download and flash the official build in ph98 form?
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what ota? in case you didn't notice it never came.
I mean the future one
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anyone?
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if there is ever a ota ... as long as u are relocked u should be able to get the ota
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if there is ever a ota ... as long as u are relocked u should be able to get the ota
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Not if he's not on stock though right?
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Not if he's not on stock though right?
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right. need to be re-locked and stock non rooted.
I do not understand why you would want to unroot and unlock to get the OTA "when released". In about a day after it is released I am sure a Dev will have a flash-able version posted.
Maybe but since we don't have s-off don't we have to relock to flash the new firmware and radios? Hopefully we have s-off before official update comes.
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right. need to be re-locked and stock non rooted.
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I didn't think it mattered if you were rooted or not. I thought the things required to get an OTA update from Verizon were:
1. LOCKED or RELOCKED
2. Stock Recovery
3. Close to Stock ROM
Somebody please correct me if I am wrong...
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I didn't think it mattered if you were rooted or not. I thought the things required to get an OTA update from Verizon were:
1. LOCKED or RELOCKED
2. Stock Recovery
3. Close to Stock ROM
Somebody please correct me if I am wrong...
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Yea like I think I read you couldn't be debloated or anything
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Yea like I think I read you couldn't be debloated or anything
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You will not get the ota on a custom Rom
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No need to relock. Just unfreeze or restore bloat. Radio and such flashed fine while unlocked
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No need to relock. Just unfreeze or restore bloat. Radio and such flashed fine while unlocked
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Wierd, I read a few posts in another topic that said you had to be locked or relocked in order for the new radio to flash...
What about me?
Well my bootloader screen at the top says ***tampered with*** and then under it says ***re-locked*** and rom is a "clean rom" (ICS based). I purchased (expecting a stock device) and it turned out to be rooted/flashed. What I'm wondering is when Verizon HTC releases the "official" ICS update, will it come to my phone? If so, this would be the quickest fix for me to get stock again. I'm not concerned with "bloatware" etc, I just want things Verizon/HTC stock. I don't download enough apps to be concerned about bloatware and internal space etc. So from what I'm reading here, being "re-locked" and having a flashed rom that's close to being stock should allow me to still get the update, am I correct?
In short, what I mean is, will the update come to my phone like it has done previous android devices (that weren't flashed)? Or will I have to flash another OTA based cooked rom AFTER the official one comes out and someone "cooks" it?
You will not get the OTA if you are rooted, that's for sure. If it's the stock ROM, you'll get the option to update, but it'll fail during the installation. I've seen it happen on a few HTC devices and even my rooted Xyboard tablet lol. But, just to be safe if you DO want the OTA, install the stock ROM (If you're on an ICS ROM, you're going to have a tough time getting back to stock. It's bricked a lot of people's phones. You have to restore the firmware yourself, I think.) and relock your bootloader. Don't be worried if it says **Security Warning** this simply means that your bootloader has been unlocked at one point in time.
Just make sure your phone is on a stock, non-rooted ROM with your phone locked to make sure you have no issues. Better safe than sorry.
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Well my bootloader screen at the top says ***tampered with*** and then under it says ***re-locked*** and rom is a "clean rom" (ICS based). I purchased (expecting a stock device) and it turned out to be rooted/flashed. What I'm wondering is when Verizon HTC releases the "official" ICS update, will it come to my phone? If so, this would be the quickest fix for me to get stock again. I'm not concerned with "bloatware" etc, I just want things Verizon/HTC stock. I don't download enough apps to be concerned about bloatware and internal space etc. So from what I'm reading here, being "re-locked" and having a flashed rom that's close to being stock should allow me to still get the update, am I correct?
In short, what I mean is, will the update come to my phone like it has done previous android devices (that weren't flashed)? Or will I have to flash another OTA based cooked rom AFTER the official one comes out and someone "cooks" it?
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I returned a rezound with cleanrom in it.... XD. probably not urs but jsut a question.... is the menu button dim compared to the others?
relock/unlock
You do not need s-off to relock. I unlocked and installed scotts cleanrom. I then a month later relocked installed the leaked OTA ICS update so i could have the new radios. Then unlocked again and installed the cleanrom DE senseless yesterday and i am loving it btw! I get decent battery too (13+ hours with moderate use)!
As the title states, I'm just curious what I need to have done to be ready for the OTA update.
Currently I'm on the ICS leaked firmware, running CleanROM 4.3. Do I need to S-Off?
I would just wait until it gets incorporated into CleanRom after the official version comes out.
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I would think you would need to s-off so you could RUU back to gingerbread. Then you could receive an update.
You don't do anything. Let our great devs update their coding based off OTA. It's usually a good idea to not take OTAs right away. Never know what kind of hidden security patches may be included. I would hold off until you hear some news pertaining to what the update provides and if it's safe to flash.
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I'm with the original poster. I would like to know if there is step by step instructions on how to unroot my phone if I need to to get the update. Or would just relocking be enough to get it? I'm currently on cleanrom de 1.2. Also, are we supposed to get sense 4.0 or 3.6 with this, or does anybody know?
Nick
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I'm with the original poster. I would like to know if there is step by step instructions on how to unroot my phone if I need to to get the update. Or would just relocking be enough to get it? I'm currently on cleanrom de 1.2. Also, are we supposed to get sense 4.0 or 3.6 with this, or does anybody know?
Nick
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Sense 4 won't be coming to the Rezound officially. It will be 3.6
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I second this!
slosrtnick said:
I'm with the original poster. I would like to know if there is step by step instructions on how to unroot my phone if I need to to get the update. Or would just relocking be enough to get it? I'm currently on cleanrom de 1.2. Also, are we supposed to get sense 4.0 or 3.6 with this, or does anybody know?
Nick
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luis86dr said:
You don't do anything. Let our great devs update their coding based off OTA. It's usually a good idea to not take OTAs right away. Never know what kind of hidden security patches may be included. I would hold off until you hear some news pertaining to what the update provides and if it's safe to flash.
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I agree and wouldn't sweat it at all. Once it becomes official the devs will do what they do and we'll have plenty of options for the upgrade.
to actually answer the question that was asked, the easiest way is to just flash the leaked or stock RUU if that's what you want. you won't lose s-off, and you'll be updated like anyone else. You won't be root, of course, since it's a stock ruu. you'll still be able to flash a non stock rom later, load amon-ra, etc.
there may be a rooted stock rom out there that i don't know about that will do the same for you. i've not dug too heavily into the stock rom scene, since i prefer a rom with a lot of features.
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to actually answer the question that was asked, the easiest way is to just flash the leaked or stock RUU if that's what you want. you won't lose s-off, and you'll be updated like anyone else. You won't be root, of course, since it's a stock ruu. you'll still be able to flash a non stock rom later, load amon-ra, etc.
there may be a rooted stock rom out there that i don't know about that will do the same for you. i've not dug too heavily into the stock rom scene, since i prefer a rom with a lot of features.
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The only thing I would do for now is to S-Off just in case this new update makes it impossible to S-Off after updating the system. As others have said you should wait until after Devs have time to play around with the OTA and incorporate it into ROMs before going ahead and flashing it.
S-off first, then just run the most current official gb ruu and don't unlock it or change recovery until after you have the ota update. I will personally wait for the official ics ruu (probably from football) and then run that and start from scratch.
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so i'm on CleanRom 4.3 standard, unlocked and rooted, s-on, stock firmware.
can you get s-off from here?
this root/unlock buisness is cray maybe I need to give up..
I kinda want to be ready for the ICS OTA but I guess I might as well wait for CleanROM to be updated. But then am I going to need s-off at all ever?
what do
Since you didn't do the Leak, You don't need S-OFF. if you don't want it.
Just wait until the Dev releases it and forget about the OTA.
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I'm on the leak also I'm hopping it isn't like the the Eris or Incredible leak, which ever it was. To many phone's to keep track of Lol.
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Excuse my newness but this is a bit confusing. Since I have flashed my phone back to stock from being rooted/unlocked using LGNPST, not using my original bootloader backup from freegee or anything like that...just straight from the tutorial in irc, the rom and all....will i be able to get an at&t jellybean update ota when they finally decide to release it? It seems there was an OTA update to E97011c and I am at E97010o right now and it says no update available. Does that mean I can't get ota updates now? I can't seem to find a direct answer to this.
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Excuse my newness but this is a bit confusing. Since I have flashed my phone back to stock from being rooted/unlocked using LGNPST, not using my original bootloader backup from freegee or anything like that...just straight from the tutorial in irc, the rom and all....will i be able to get an at&t jellybean update ota when they finally decide to release it? It seems there was an OTA update to E97011c and I am at E97010o right now and it says no update available. Does that mean I can't get ota updates now? I can't seem to find a direct answer to this.
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you should be able to flash the new ROM through lgpnst and mabey the ota. I think there was a problem with the latest ota for people rooted and unrooted.... And there should be custom ROMs based off of the new release that you could flash through recovery if I'm not mistaken
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you should be able to flash the new ROM through lgpnst and mabey the ota. I think there was a problem with the latest ota for people rooted and unrooted.... And there should be custom ROMs based off of the new release that you could flash through recovery if I'm not mistaken
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Right, but does unlocking/rooting/installing canadian JB, then unrooting and relocking bar me in any way from receiving future offical ota updates from at&t? I've probably been phrasing the question wrong
You will be able to ota. The process the use to tell if you are eligible is just odd, so sometimes it can take a few days / weeks to get it.
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You will be able to ota. The process the use to tell if you are eligible is just odd, so sometimes it can take a few days / weeks to get it.
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This answered my question. Thanks for the reply.