[Request] Pure ASOP ICS ROM - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777

Having just come from the inspire 4g, I've had the luxury of having asopx, which if you search their forum you'll see its as close to Google source as possible with all the cm crap gutted, I've been hoping to see one pop up over here but didn't know if perhaps there just wasn't any demand here in Samsung land. Anyway the phone is awesome, just dislike touchwiz, and want the bare bones stock look and feel of ics, to which I can then customize from there. Seems like all the roms thus far have traces of touchwiz and or tons of cm tweaks and apex lanuchers and all that nonsense that we should have the ability to add from a bare bones build, kinda like a foundation to then just customize from there.
Please show some love if you want this as well, would gladly donate for some dev to get on it :beer::beer:

CM9 and AOKP are the closest things you will get to a pure AOSP OS.
If you wanted guaranteed pure AOSP, you should've bought a Nexus device.
BTW, that "CM crap" as you put it, vastly improves the ability of the OS. As does (and this is my opinion only) Touchwiz4.

Why don't you build your own op if you're not happy with what's offered.

NJGSII said:
Why don't you build your own op if you're not happy with what's offered.
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Instead of criticizing why not try helping? There actually is a pure AOSP based ROM that we recently got support for named Codename Android. I'm not sure if it 100% running on our phone yet but they are working to do so.
Link to discussion: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1570962
Link to homepage: http://codenameandroid.org/

PatriotXT92 said:
Link to discussion: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1570962
Link to homepage: http://codenameandroid.org/
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Codename Android on my Nexus S [link] is really nice. It was one of my favorites. If we could see that (at some point) on our phones, that would be awesome.
I built and ran AOSP ICS 4.0.3 for my Nexus S and I have to say that while I did it just to see it work, I didn't run it long as I missed the features that CM and other open-source projects such as Codename Android have to offer. But, to each their own.
Just my $.02.

AOKP is about as close as you're going to get. Try it, you wont regret it.

Red5 said:
AOKP is about as close as you're going to get. Try it, you wont regret it.
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Agreed......by far the best ICS Rom
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XXtremeAzzKicker said:
Agreed......by far the best ICS Rom
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Sorry if this post came off as if I was some form of elitiest, I was merely suggesting that if we had a nice bare bones build people can thank tweak as they saw fit, I do not claim to be an Android developer and if I could I would love to build what I'm requesting, unfortunately I do not posses those skills ,hence attempting to lure in unsuspecting developers with donations as I do respect and understand the amount of developers that do this in their spare time while maintaining real life jobs. Secondly, my past experience with cm has been poor with the inspire, perhaps it was just not as highly regarded in the inspire space as it is elsewhere. Cm just didn't play that well with that device, perhaps I was too quick to judge having moved devices.
For those on akop, is it the stock launcher, email, and messaging apps? They don't have any screen shots? I'd like to get away from touchwiz
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AOKP is an aosp build, you will not see anything tw related in the rom

datrumole said:
Sorry if this post came off as if I was some form of elitiest, I was merely suggesting that if we had a nice bare bones build people can thank tweak as they saw fit, I do not claim to be an Android developer and if I could I would love to build what I'm requesting, unfortunately I do not posses those skills ,hence attempting to lure in unsuspecting developers with donations as I do respect and understand the amount of developers that do this in their spare time while maintaining real life jobs. Secondly, my past experience with cm has been poor with the inspire, perhaps it was just not as highly regarded in the inspire space as it is elsewhere. Cm just didn't play that well with that device, perhaps I was too quick to judge having moved devices.
For those on akop, is it the stock launcher, email, and messaging apps? They don't have any screen shots? I'd like to get away from touchwiz
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That's all right man.
AOKP uses the Vanilla ICS launcher, not touchwiz.

raduque said:
BTW, that "CM crap" as you put it, vastly improves the ability of the OS. As does (and this is my opinion only) Touchwiz4.
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I share this opinion. I can honestly say if I had to choose between my GS II and the Galaxy Nexus with a locked boot loader, and not rootable, I would take the GS II every time. I would not choose to run Stock ICS over CM9, AOKP, or like stated above, TouchWiz (on ICS).
As others said give AOKP a try. Its definitely daily driver stable and complete. It looks like stock ICS but adds so many features. Things like the power toggles in the notification shade, adding apps to the lock screen as shortcuts, the list is huge. I can't make a firm decision between SHOstock2 and AOKP. I spend a week on one, then swap, repeat. I think people give TW a hard time. Its not sense, its not in your face and leeching into every part of the phone. Its really subtle once you put on a different launcher, even the official att builds. When I run AOKP I miss the TW music player (with controls in the lock screen and notification shade), the video player, and the camera more than anything else. When I run TW builds I miss the people/phone app and calendar. Those are the differences to me between TW and AOSP, a vast majority of the ICS experience is the same in the two.
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datrumole said:
Sorry if this post came off as if I was some form of elitiest, I was merely suggesting that if we had a nice bare bones build people can thank tweak as they saw fit, I do not claim to be an Android developer and if I could I would love to build what I'm requesting, unfortunately I do not posses those skills ,hence attempting to lure in unsuspecting developers with donations as I do respect and understand the amount of developers that do this in their spare time while maintaining real life jobs. Secondly, my past experience with cm has been poor with the inspire, perhaps it was just not as highly regarded in the inspire space as it is elsewhere. Cm just didn't play that well with that device, perhaps I was too quick to judge having moved devices.
For those on akop, is it the stock launcher, email, and messaging apps? They don't have any screen shots? I'd like to get away from touchwiz
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Everyone in here is telling you to go with AOKP. Its as "bare bones" as you can get with stock ICS. There is in TouchWiz whatsoever in AOKP. All the drivers are in there to make all the functions of your phone work. Go try it. Now.

I wish we had a pure AOSP rom also. I really dislike AOKP.
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Red5 said:
Go try it. Now.
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trell959 said:
I really dislike AOKP.
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why?

yup. try out aokp.

insaneturbo13 said:
why?
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I don't know really. I just didn't like it. I may give it another go tonight
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trell959 said:
I don't know really. I just didn't like it. I may give it another go tonight
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You can always try MysticPride.

trell959 said:
I wish we had a pure AOSP rom also. I really dislike AOKP.
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If you really dislike aokp then you would really dislike aosp

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Am I the only one

who doesn't want an AOSP rom?
I also really don't care about an ICS release - though I'll happily take it, stock and rooted.
raduque said:
who doesn't want an AOSP rom?
I also really don't care about an ICS release - though I'll happily take it, stock and rooted.
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When the ICS kernel is ready, you can flash the i9100 stock ICS rom.
I'll probably try it out at the very least. I think I'm addicted to flashing.
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estxxas said:
I'll probably try it out at the very least. I think I'm addicted to flashing.
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Honestly, I think I'm over the whole constantly flashing thing. I want my phone to just work.
raduque said:
who doesn't want an AOSP rom?
I also really don't care about an ICS release - though I'll happily take it, stock and rooted.
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I just don't like thw TW launcher as much. It's good, don't get me wrong, but I wish it had more flexibility. TW 4.5 has some of those, but then it lacks some from the official TW3.
Other wise, I like some of the other additions by Samsung. Specially the changes in Clock and Contacts.
So now I am aiming for stock i9100 + Nova/Apex launcher
Wow... just...wow....how can you have Android phone, and just want a phone that just works? Just curious case my phone is my computer,TV. Dvr ....everything
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You maybe the only one lol
If you want a phone that just works get a Startac...
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I like Samsung based over aosp based too. But development on both fronts helps make for an overall better experience for anyone who likes flashing and tinkering with there phone.
As far as tw launcher, it has gotten allot better, but no matter whether I run asop based or Samsung based I always seem to find my way to go launcher or adw.
Once ics is working well enough for me to keep it on my phone longer than a day or two, I'm going to spend some time checking out the nova launcher.
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I love aosp roms. Guess this thread isn't for me :-(
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raduque said:
who doesn't want an AOSP rom?
I also really don't care about an ICS release - though I'll happily take it, stock and rooted.
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I partially agree. I don't really care about ICS, but I'll probably update to it when it comes out. I am perfectly happy with the setup I have now. I dont't understand why people are acting like they "need" it.
I also like AOSP and its simplicity, but I love the media format support provided by Samsung roms. Full 1080p wmv's @ 10mbps? Yes please. I don't care for Touchwiz launcher itself though.
And I can't live without allshare
I might be crazy but if a rom has it removed on install I will instantly flash another rom with it.
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I find you need a balance between constantly flashing and having a functional device.
For me it goes in spurts.
kamots said:
Wow... just...wow....how can you have Android phone, and just want a phone that just works?
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How can you have an Android phone, or any device really, that DOESN'T just work? You like having something that's constantly broken?
Just curious case my phone is my computer,TV. Dvr ....everything
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My phone is a communication device primarily, a personal organizer and music source for my truck, and sometimes light gaming device.
It'll never replace my desktop, and it'll never replace my HTPC + 55" Samsung LED SmartTV. I just can't stand watching video on such a small screen.
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You maybe the only one lol
If you want a phone that just works get a Startac...
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I like all the advanced things my phone can do, I just want every feature to always work, 100% of the time.
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How can you have an Android phone, or any device really, that DOESN'T just work? You like having something that's constantly broken?
My phone is a communication device primarily, a personal organizer and music source for my truck, and sometimes light gaming device.
It'll never replace my desktop, and it'll never replace my HTPC + 55" Samsung LED SmartTV. I just can't stand watching video on such a small screen.
I like all the advanced things my phone can do, I just want every feature to always work, 100% of the time.
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1.) Flashing ROMs doesn't mean one's device doesn't work. It simply means they want a change from stock/whatever they decide to change from.
2.) Flashing ROMs doesn't disable your device as a communication platform. AOSP based ROMs (With ICS, at least) have a better calendar, camera application, and are compatible with virtually every app you currently have now.
3.) Not trying to sound like a ****, but if you just want it to work and aren't concerned with flashing the ROM or anything, why are you on XDA Developers?
I hate it, is fugly,, I love touchwiz
eortizr said:
I hate it, is fugly,, I love touchwiz
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This is the first time I've ever head of anyone liking the look of TouchWiz over the Holo theme for ICS...
Hey now. TWlauncher grew on me too. When I got my new phone launcherpro didn't make it back on.
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eortizr said:
I hate it, is fugly,, I love touchwiz
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absolutely agree 100%
I want ics with ics colors, ics lock, ics wallpapers, rings and sounds that don't list twice, and functional camera. no one can fix music quality so forget that. I don't think I'm asking much but some disagree.
brent8577 said:
I want ics with ics colors, ics lock, ics wallpapers, rings and sounds that don't list twice, and functional camera. no one can fix music quality so forget that. I don't think I'm asking much but some disagree.
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You don't stop do you? These devs work for FREE and they work as hard as they can, not everything is easy to fix just be patient and stop disrespecting the devs
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Vote: What flavor of ICS do you want worked on most?

Maybe some devs are just blown away by the options - or maybe they don't think this device is that popular? Blow them away by voting and showing how in demand their services are - and for what!
There is a lot of variety out there right now- and with the official ICS leak these things SHOULD be much more possible, so let me ask you what flavor of ICS do you want the most?
All examples are from vibrant because I have tested all of them on my old phone.. many of the more popular devices have them all.
Ports/official:
Slim ICS - Clean, Simple, and fast - the google way - as barebone aosp as it gets.(Can you say a 75mb download?)
Something like MIUI - A feature heavy nearly total redesign of Android - everything about this type of rom is different - but most of you probably know that. Easily themable in every aspect. Some of the features are here(don't forget it takes advantage of all the new features of ICS)
AOSP(Android open source project) - Either official CM9 or pure AOSP - the stock experience without our blessed "SenseUI" we all have come to love/hate - CM9 of course has some extra features.. and is also easily themable.
AOKP(Android open kang project) - Much like a feature rich version of CM9, while still aiming at a stock experience - if you want to know the differences click here(or check some of the features here)
SenseUI+ - Do you just want modified Senseui with some tweaks? Maybe some root, crt displays, power menu options.. just a stock+ experience? If so go to the development section, it has only been a week yet some good roms seem to be popping up all over(*cough* signature *cough*).
I like stock - HTC and Tmobile decide what I should use, and that's the way I like it! The most I could ask for, if I was feeling risky, is to get a little bit of root. Maybe.
Gingerbread - Damn this new radio! My battery sucks! Life sucks! How dare they leak a rom that isn't even finished! Those @ss&*#(s!
I'm gonna buy a new phone - You guys are noobs, I'm gonna buy a new phone!
If I missed an option, I'm sorry.. send me a PM and I'll see if I can add it to the list- but these are some of the choices out there, maybe help out devs and the potential ones alike by shouting at them all in one place!(rather than in their threads- I'm pretty sure they hate that.)
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AOSP 4.0.4
Got AOKP on my Glacier and its dope
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glacierguy said:
AOSP 4.0.4
Got AOKP on my Glacier and its dope
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I wondered where you chose that name.. now it all makes sense!
I tried AOKP on my vibrant.. unfortunately that phone just can't compare to this one.
Sense 4.0 or MIUI ICS!
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Sense 4.0 or MIUI ICS!
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And yet there is no vote for MIUI? What gives?
I haven't seen that sense4 has enough improvements over 3.6, and then there is the fact that many of those features were integrated into ICS anyways.. is it worth the slowdown?
Now Miui on the other hand has some really original features..
I voted on MIUI after posting. Had it on my HD2 and couldn't wish for anything better!
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I've been bouncing between the 2 senseless roms, and I like both of them so far so I vote for anything without sense.
I have cm9 nexus on my HD2 and still cheat on my amaze with it sometimes.
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For me its.between aokl for its aosp qualities and tweaks and sense 4 for its ui and features and not to mention, endless eye candy lol
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Sense 4.0 is my favorite
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AOSP/AOKP are the same .
AOKP just builds on AOSP. Once you have one you work on the other no ?
xManMythLegend said:
AOSP/AOKP are the same .
AOKP just builds on AOSP. Once you have one you work on the other no ?
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Basically i already have both working but i'll start working on miui
My vote went to AOSP and AOKP. I don't care which...I just want one of them!
CM9. Would love to play around with Sense 4.0, though.
I want my Amaze to look and run similar to the Galaxy Nexus.
AOSP!!.. Pleaaaase!..
Sense 4 could be on fire and I'd pee in the other direction to avoid even 1 drop quenching a single flame
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Aosp
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sportsstar89 said:
Basically i already have both working but i'll start working on miui
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Well since 65%(so far) of everyone who voted went with aosp you know your work there will be appreciated!
I'm really surprised more people haven't put in their opinion!
Well I would like an aosp before anything, then bring speed Rom over to it
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The Ruby needs to be blessed with any variant of ICS AOSP. We've seen enough Sense lately.
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Silentbtdeadly said:
Well since 65%(so far) of everyone who voted went with aosp you know your work there will be appreciated!
I'm really surprised more people haven't put in their opinion!
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If you would like you could start working on miui i want to dedicate my time to AOSP

which one do you vote ? [CM or Gingerbread, HTC SenseUI]or other.

Respected all
I don't know what people in the world think about difference builds of android.I just want to see your answers .which one do you prefer and why?.
Many thanks.
I like CM best because of the massive amount of features and customizations it has. When you say GB i presume you mean AOSP-its not bad but i got used to the extra features of CM and whenever i go to a AOSP rom i really miss them. As for Sense-personally its ugly to me and it also makes pointless load on system resources just to display a shiny rainbow-collored button.
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nerot said:
I like CM best because of the massive amount of features and customizations it has. When you say GB i presume you mean AOSP-its not bad but i got used to the extra features of CM and whenever i go to a AOSP rom i really miss them. As for Sense-personally its ugly to me and it also makes pointless load on system resources just to display a shiny rainbow-collored button.
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Do you think people like CM more than sense IU ? how can we have a threat to evaluate them in here by vote?
CM for me too. I love the extra features. Htc is good but I find cm better.
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I like AOKP, pretty similar to look and feel of CM9+. Was not a fan of CM7, for gingerbread I prefer MIUI.
CM is a skin too. CM, AOKP, MIUI, TouchWiz, Sense, Blur, LG skin, Pantech skin, etc. They all run on top of Android, spanning several versions of Android.
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Dylan Bay said:
Do you think people like CM more than sense IU ? how can we have a threat to evaluate them in here by vote?
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Doesn't have to mean. I just think CM is spread more because of it's features and stability .
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[Q] What are considered the "best" HTC EVO LTE ROMS?

I'm currently on CM10.1 and love it, but what are the absolute best ROMs for this phone?
Pachonk said:
I'm currently on CM10.1 and love it, but what are the absolute best ROMs for this phone?
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You would need to define your criteria for "best" first.
For me, "best" ROMs are ROMs that give me better speed, more features, and similar stability to stock. I also keep my devices for a pretty long time. So as they age I look to the community for support in keeping up to date. Hell, I still have a Tegra 2 tablet (Gtab) and my old Hero C laying around.
In this respect, I have had very good luck with ViperROM on the LTE. YMMV
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You would need to define your criteria for "best" first.
For me, "best" ROMs are ROMs that give me better speed, more features, and similar stability to stock. I also keep my devices for a pretty long time. So as they age I look to the community for support in keeping up to date. Hell, I still have a Tegra 2 tablet (Gtab) and my old Hero C laying around.
In this respect, I have had very good luck with ViperROM on the LTE. YMMV
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I know this is off topic but I have the Gtab too but sadly this happend... The touch screen doesn't work anymore but I still have it for the memory
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If u like stock look but souped up! Go with Meanbean.. If u want to custimize then go with viper4g..
What is considered the best Rom?
Ask the fanboys...
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I like Viper4G but JB Tranquility and Operations Jelly Bean are good, as well.
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I'm currently on CM10.1 and love it, but what are the absolute best ROMs for this phone?
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I used to love aosp but I use viper now lol
Granted it's desensed and I use nova launcher
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jesuscash said:
I used to love aosp but I use viper now lol
Granted it's desensed and I use nova launcher
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Can I use a cm10.1 like contact app? One that isn't htc sense contact?
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Can I use a cm10.1 like contact app? One that isn't htc sense contact?
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I believe the apk has to be modded to work with sense. I tried restoring some aosp system apps on a sense rom and just got FCs. Clean ROM used to have a bunch of modded apks but I think it's been abandoned...haven't seen any out there for 4.1.2 yet.
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I believe the apk has to be modded to work with sense. I tried restoring some aosp system apps on a sense rom and just got FCs. Clean ROM used to have a bunch of modded apks but I think it's been abandoned...haven't seen any out there for 4.1.2 yet.
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What makes them force close on different frameworks?
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Its more like what Rom is best for u.
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This is always going to be a question that never has the perfect answer. It depends on what you want/need. Go sense if you want the classic evo look and just want the basic experience its for people who don't care as much about making the device faster and better, they just want it to work and the only real reason they rooted it was to get rid of the bloatware. Keep it simple stupid. Honestly sense is fast, but aosp is is much more reliable and stable. Sense kernels have that small chance of corrupting your file system if and when your device crashes. It's a small chance but a chance none the less.
AOSP is by far the best for the ones who do want to unlock the devices full potential. AOSP (Android open source project) roms are more difficult to create and perfect but they give these devices more potential but its also up to the user to do his or her research. Don't flash or tweak even the slightest thing until you do your research and search xda and google. When you find a guide that of course isn't too old and you know you can trust it, read it over and over and bookmark it. Always search xda but never listen to the opinions of others until you test it yourself.
These rom creators work hard and they expect us to know what we are doing.
tl;dr - I will just say this, if your willing to spend more time to give you the best experience go AOSP. And if you go AOSP go CyanogenMod and nothing else. And for the kernel if you do wish to use a custom kernel I hightly recommend Komodo if you want an even better user experience.
Best rom is...
... the one that works best for you
FWIW. I love the ViperRom. Phone feels like it just "works" and, if I want, there are lots of customizations available.
That said, I just switched to HatkaLTE because I wanted to stay with a sense rom and it seems to me that the last update of ViperRom reintroduced the original rom's sensor problems on my phone. [I say seems because it's still not perfect, just better, on the HatkaLTE and maybe the hardware has developed a defect]. I can't say much about this rom yet because I haven't had it on my phone long enough and because I'm also playing around with different launchers at the same time.
Good luck!
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I like Viper4G but JB Tranquility and Operations Jelly Bean are good, as well.
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are these roms updated on 3.16?
Keyz450 said:
are these roms updated on 3.16?
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ViperROM is. Operation Jelly Bean and Tranquility ROM are not.
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What makes them force close on different frameworks?
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Square peg, meet round hole.
I say decks cm10.1 or the sense5 port.
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IDK, but I'm really excited to install the new VIPERROM
Very, very excited. Hopefully it (re)fixes the proximity sensor problem, but if not, I have the init file all ready to solve the problem myself!
I have to agree with many of the posts, it's more of a personal taste question. I've run almost every ROM at some point, and I love the speed of AOSP, but like the features of Sense. There are a few key features that you lose on AOSP. After a whole lot of flashing, I've settled on SuperJelly Bareback, it strips out all the bloat of Sense while retaining those key features, and is almost spot on with the speed of AOSP. It's my happy medium. Good luck and happy flashing.
If you dont need Bluetooth, Sense 5. Otherwise Viper or Super LTE.

Lack of development?

I'm just curious as to why Verizon note 2 is lacking so much in the ROM development side of things compared to other carriers. Is it solely because we are still only 4.1.1? Just thought it would be interesting to see peoples input!
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By the way, sorry if this is in the wrong thread :/
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It's been discussed already...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2127422&highlight=development
Oops! Sorry for taking up space Haha. Didn't look too far into the forums for anything related.
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nunyazz said:
It's been discussed already...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2127422&highlight=development
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Only a quarter of a year ago....And even in the thread you linked there were whiny people complaining that someone else at some point had asked the question. Lighten up.
Didn't mean to step on any toes or anything. There just hasn't been hardly any development on here lately so I thought I would get something going. Trust me if I had the time, and the abilities like these developers do, I would throw my hat in the ring. But at my current level of (lowly) expertise I should probably leave that up to the people that know what they're doing
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Yet Scott just released a zip that will allow us to flash t mobile, and att roms. Give me a moment, and I will find the thread, and post it here. If you want to see a dead phone, go look at the rezound. The phone is barely a year and a half old, and it is marching into obscurity. The droid incredible has more action. These threads aren't going to produce more roms, just bad attitudes. Try playing with all of the mods we have, and theme it to whatever you want it to be. Morphology, Xposed, and a slew of others. Troll the other carriers threads, and pull mods that you want. That is all we can ask for, unless you are paying the devs a paycheck.
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HughesNet said:
. Lighten up.
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Really dude? Get a life.
nunyazz said:
Really dude? Get a life.
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Yes, really.
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jbrown30 said:
Didn't mean to step on any toes or anything. There just hasn't been hardly any development on here lately so I thought I would get something going. Trust me if I had the time, and the abilities like these developers do, I would throw my hat in the ring. But at my current level of (lowly) expertise I should probably leave that up to the people that know what they're doing
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Which have you tried? Both Jedi and Jelly Beans are both great. I am using the mod in my sig right now as I like that it keeps the samsung allshare features working.
With a combination of Jelly Beans, Widget Locker, and a theme you could pretty much get anything done you want. Pick up the odd app or mod here and there to fill in the gaps.
By the way, if you want to give 4.1.2 a go Jedi is running that. It is great if you don't need the Samsung services.
Here is a thread with all the info for running other carriers. This should keep you busy for awhile. Though, I hear sprint roms are a disaster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239353
Is there a way to run Sprint, and T-Mobile roms on Verizon?
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Though, I hear sprint roms are a disaster.
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I think this has been my main take away from discussions, and browsing the other forums. Quantity in this case definitely does not equal quality. I don't see the point in having 10 options if only 2 or 3 are viable. However, that is just my opinion.
Most source built ROMs (AOSP) are going to have issues, whether major or minor, and are much easier to customize as you're dealing with XML and java. However, the lack of TW features keep people away from them.
With TouchWiz ROMs, you don't lose any functionality, but there is only so much that smali hacking can do. Most of this is just the time consuming nature of trying to hack a ROM via smali only. You could get everything in your favorite source built ROM if you wanted to take the time to do so. But, given that this is a for-fun thing and not a money making venture, developers aren't likely to take that amount of time if they wouldn't use it themselves.
jcollier said:
I think this has been my main take away from discussions, and browsing the other forums. Quantity in this case definitely does not equal quality. I don't see the point in having 10 options if only 2 or 3 are viable. However, that is just my opinion.
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I would definitely prefer a few quality roms with great support than 27 versions of cyanogenmod that are 98% the same. Beans, MeanBean, Tweaked, Jedi, Elemental...that should be plenty to keep the crack flashers happy.
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Here is a thread with all the info for running other carriers. This should keep you busy for awhile. Though, I hear sprint roms are a disaster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239353
Is there a way to run Sprint, and T-Mobile roms on Verizon?
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Appreciate the input man!
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What is a rom really? To me It's just a better version of what the manufacturer builds. The stuff is basically the same for the most part with the addition of tweaks for better battery performance etc... That are added by the dev. The thing that makes a rom different are the things like themes and different looking batteries etc..., so why have 100 roms that essentially are the same? I would prefer to have 1 rom that performs well with a bunch of themes and mods hence i only use meanbean and love the real icon theme, or morphology. Mean bean is a great rom and with pbj kernel even better.
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To each their own ya know. My reason personally for rooting and unlocking is personalization, which is why I tend to end up at aosp more often than not. There's plenty of options and stuff to mix around. The only reason why I made a topic about it was because of the extensive development on other carriers. Not because I'm not pleased with what's here, I just have a hard time staying on one ROM for long
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To each their own ya know. My reason personally for rooting and unlocking is personalization, which is why I tend to end up at aosp more often than not. There's plenty of options and stuff to mix around. The only reason why I made a topic about it was because of the extensive development on other carriers. Not because I'm not pleased with what's here, I just have a hard time staying on one ROM for long
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This answer makes me glad I didn't flame you last night when I was drunk haha. Meanbean plus morphology is plenty of customization for me haha
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stock android firmware has evolved into something so much better than it use to be...im still on beans build 2 because it flatout works and has all the things I need. Its hard to develop when stock touchwiz is so good out of the box. the only real thing that touchwiz needs is themeing. beans takes the cake on that. aosp was nice on my gs1 because it trimmed the fat and made the ol single core with limited ram run smooth. these quad core beasts are designed to handle bloat and a festure rich skins(touchwiz), so aosp does not have the appeal and performance advantage it use to. however for the folks that
keep this device well past tthe point verizon quits supporting it, then aosp will shine...simply for the fact it will bring the latest android offerings and keep the note 2 alive.
I think it had A LOT to do with TW and Spen/Note 2 specific features. Nobody really wants to lose them, and there's only so many ways to mess with TW. There's plenty of AOSP/KP stuff but look at the involvement compared to TW roms... It's there, but not as much... My take on it anyway.
Edit: Yeah, what Droidstyle said, lol.
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Don't forget that Samsung has promised an update to 4.2 for the Note II sometime this year. No real timetable, but when it comes it will be a shot in the arm for development.
Myself, I bounce between Beans ROM and CyanogenMod. The S-Pen features are what generally keep me hopping, but both are good.

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