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It's been a crazy 2 years.
Some of us have already moved on to other devices(me2! ), and some still live here. Some of you , have no idea who I am xD. Most of your upgrades should be soon. (in fact mine is this month) The eris was my first android phone, my door to a magically mystical place I had never been before. While there was a lot of drama, we were able to get root, ***** the device, OC it , and build custom roms. In fact, I was the first person to ever have a rooted Eris(thanks Caboose!) and make the first custom rom for it. I have evolved greatly from these days, and I can always thank my Eris for guiding me the way. If any Evil Eris supporters are still here, thank you so much, I cannot say(or type) the words to show how appreciative I am of you guys. I am now much involved in the Droid X scene. Anywho, I hope you guys enjoyed the phone as much as I did, tell me when your upgrade is, and what you plan to get!
Framework43 said:
It's been a crazy 2 years.
Some of us have already moved on to other devices(me2! ), and some still live here. Some of you , have no idea who I am xD. Most of your upgrades should be soon. (in fact mine is this month) The eris was my first android phone, my door to a magically mystical place I had never been before. While there was a lot of drama, we were able to get root, ***** the device, OC it , and build custom roms. In fact, I was the first person to ever have a rooted Eris(thanks Caboose!) and make the first custom rom for it. I have evolved greatly from these days, and I can always thank my Eris for guiding me the way. If any Evil Eris supporters are still here, thank you so much, I cannot say(or type) the words to show how appreciative I am of you guys. I am now much involved in the Droid X scene. Anywho, I hope you guys enjoyed the phone as much as I did, tell me when your upgrade is, and what you plan to get!
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Now there's a blast from the past. Thanks for everything you've done here with the Eris EE was the first ROM I used and used it for quite some time. My upgrade is due the end of Nov. Currently I still have my original Eris which my wife now uses (finally talked her into moving away from her Blackberry ) and I'm now on the DInc1 until my upgrade time. My next phone will probably be either DInc2 or Vigor. Still waiting to see come Nov/Dec.
Hey Framework43, good to see you posting here again in the Eris forums .
Been a while since I've seen you, Eclips3, jcase, jamezelle, GrdLock, etc. post over here, but I know you guys are still around, here and there.
I've still got my Eris, but I've been using my Droid X as my day-to-day phone since launch day of last year.
I love my X, but I can't let go of the Eris and still tinker with it as much as time allows.
Still waiting to hear about the next big device to come out, but I really want to make sure that we've got a good dev community behind it and an unlocked bootloader would certainly help in that respect. I think we're all hoping (probably foolishly) that the Bionic might be/get unlocked...(I did see last night that the Photon has been unlocked--although not necessarily by Moto).
Anyway, good to see you here again.
Cheers!
My upgrade is September 19. I will probably get the cheapest of the X2, Dinc2, or Tbolt.
I don't want to get a brand new phone for two reasons: 1) I am cheap, and 2) I want a phone already supported by XDA. If you guys have a suggestion concerning another phone I should consider or why I shouldn't consider one of the above let me know. My only restriction is it must be HTC or Moto. I don't want to learn another vendor interface. Did I mention I'm lazy as well as cheap?
The Eris I got for free when my wife got her Droid. I'd like to pay close to that for my next one. She's headed for a Droid3.
I've got until next March before I upgrade. I bought my Eris used several months ago because work agreed to pay for our data plans, and it was the only one I could buy for a decent price (my current phone was a Samsung Hue). I'm sure I'll only have a certain amount of funds to pay for my phone at upgrade time, so maybe the T-bolt or other good 4g phone will be free by then.
LOL - I bought my Eris on drop day, so I'm already eligible for an upgrade.
I had the same "dumb" feature phone for - get this - 5 years before that.
I've been using computers continously since 1976 and can no longer remember how many deskside and laptop computers have passed through my hands, so I don't get all that excited about the prospects of getting "the latest and greatest" any more. Are the new phones that much better? Sure they are.
Having said that though, I will also admit: the little Eris is the coolest device I've ever owned. Maybe not the "best of the bunch" at the time - but that didn't matter to me: I wanted it for its form factor. If I wait a while, the next phone I buy will probably make the same impression on me, rather than just being "a little bit better"... and I won't be married to any carrier at that time.
I'm glad we had the group of devs we did; not every android phone gets the same degree of attention.
The whole time I owned the Eris, my phone kept getting better, thanks to Framework and all the other devs. Pretty awesome that nearly 2 years later, I'm running GB on a phone that shipped as a Cupcake device.
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Framework43 said:
It's been a crazy 2 years.
Some of us have already moved on to other devices(me2! ), and some still live here. Some of you , have no idea who I am xD. Most of your upgrades should be soon. (in fact mine is this month) The eris was my first android phone, my door to a magically mystical place I had never been before. While there was a lot of drama, we were able to get root, ***** the device, OC it , and build custom roms. In fact, I was the first person to ever have a rooted Eris(thanks Caboose!) and make the first custom rom for it. I have evolved greatly from these days, and I can always thank my Eris for guiding me the way. If any Evil Eris supporters are still here, thank you so much, I cannot say(or type) the words to show how appreciative I am of you guys. I am now much involved in the Droid X scene. Anywho, I hope you guys enjoyed the phone as much as I did, tell me when your upgrade is, and what you plan to get!
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Evil Eris was also the first ROM I ever used. One of my favorites.
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Me3, or 4; Evil Eris was the first custom ROM I flashed on my Eris, too. I was late to the Eris game, but in a way just in time as just about the time my Eris shipped to me, 2.1 OTA was rooted, so by the time I received mine I had researched a lot, already knew how to root it and had decided on what I was going to try first. Thank you, FrameWork43 (it's funny, the second time I used EarthLink as an ISP they still had my original email address reserved - [email protected], so I chose roirrawedoreht43, either because 42 was already taken or because it was the answer to life, the universe, and everything +1), and to everyone else who has made my phone so tinkerable.
I'm not with Verizon any more, I'm with PagePlus and I love the savings. I do plan on paying retail for some phone hopefully within the next year, but we shall see. I know that no matter how powerful my next phone is when stock, that I still won't accept any that can't be rooted because I love to make things do things they're not supposed to be able to do!!!
Got my Eris the day they came out (v1.5) and now that I have Condemned CM7 V17 rooted....I'm gonna keep it another two or three years. Thank You CondemnedSoul.
By the way...your "Noobie video" scared the he!! out of me
I know its not a question, but would like to just say thanks to everyone in this misfit forum for making our phone a better device. Just shows what can happen when people work together. I know I've learned alot about android in the last 10 months & thank you guys for all your help along the way. Let's hope the New Year brings us new possibilities for this misfit of a phone....THANKS AGAIN EVERYONE..MERRY CHRISTMAS & HAPPY NEW YEARS!!!
This happens to be my very first post on XDA. I'm one of those silent followers, reading, re-reading, scratching my head, pulling my hair, but smiling in the end bc of you Devs. I went back to stock last night to flash 2.3.5 and it kept saying error "build.prop & verification blah blah". I'm freaking out. Since I'm on vacation, I tether my phone for internet (throttled, of course, bc I've been downloading as much as a middle school boy with the parents out). I spend forever loading pages, too stubborn to ask a question and too afraid of the "dude, have you ever heard of the search feature?" Yes, mister, I have read about that feature. But I deleted it and need you to send me a link So, it's Christmas Eve and I'm sitting in a Chinese restaurant enveloped in a sea of S. Florida Jews that my sister loves to talk with every year. We're the only Catholics in the room, but she feels right at home. Idk. It may have been Moses working, but I realized I was on 2.3.3. Huzzah! As soon as we got back I immediately satiated my flash fix. Thanks Ace for the nandroid. X-mas came early. Thanks everyone for your help. I've learned so much for my first smart phone bc of XDA and y'all. I really fear ppl are going to be moving on soon. I fear that a lot. I don't know how ppl can go through phones like it's an accessory. I got my phone on August 6th and am sticking with this to at least my 2 year update. Don't worry. I foresee our unlock is near.
Sorry for the long post, if you made it this far. My next ones won't be this bad.
Big thanks to DEVS and...Ashlepedia. I categorize you, Ash, with the Devs bc of the amount of work you put in to this forum. I rooted around the same time you did and it's been great watching how much you've learned. I'll get whatever phone you get next.
Happy holidays, everyone from Old Testament to New to none.
Gtg to run to bed so Nicolas doesn't get mad. I heard he's brining me an Otterbox this year.
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in last 2 years i owned bold 9700, HD2 and now sensation.
unfortunately while trying to clean dust out of the screen i damaged it it was already dropped and leaking on the corner and i separated it even more.
i havent been up to date on cell phones for last year or so
and asking your advice because i do not want to make same mistake like buying this stupid sensation phone with its issues
(camera red color and dust under screen etc)
can anyone that knows more than me about the following phones give me a quick list of major defects that i should look for ?
im planning to get the new phone this saturday and dont have any time to do research since im pretty busy at work..
here are the phones from tmobile that i was eyeballing today.
1 htc amaze how well is it built looked a bit heavy
2 tmo G2X
3 samsung exhibit 2
4 samsung galaxy s2 screen is big but resolution is not so big
can someone post pictures from following phones also? unless theres a thread with pictures i want to see quality the camera on those.
I experienced the "dust under the screen" issue with the MT4G, which I loved, but the dust made me exchange the phone 5 times
I can tell you Samsung phones don't have that problem because they fuse the screen so nothing can get it.. a HUGE plus to me
The T-Mobile Galaxy S2 had been the best phone I have ever owned by far.. and the screen outclasses anything on the market IMO.. I've held my phone next to the iPhone 4S, both playing Cut the Rope, and it almost made my friend throw his phone because he was sure the iPhone had the best screen.. it wasn't even close, the colors, the blacks, everything was so much cleaner on the S2
You will hear complaints about every phone out there, including the S2, but I promise you won't be disappointed, I wouldn't trade this phone for the new Nexus, iPhone, nada
Galaxy S2 all the way.
Have you considered the Samsung Galaxy Note? I just got it one month ago - and I just think its a unique device - works really well as a phone and a tablet, which many people doubted, s pen with s memo allows me to scribble when I am feeling creative/have ideas which are not meant just for typing etc. I do hope they bring ICS to it, which is optimized and not slowed down. You could consider this as well. I know people have S2 and are happy with it, but somehow I thought Note would make the owner feel extra special Hope this helps?
would be nice but its not available through T-mobile.
No offence m8 but you really need to go and put some effort into this one yourself. Its kind of silly to ask people who you don't know and who don't know you to decide which phone is right for you.
You need to go google this sh*t.
get a list of the phones spec.
find 2-3 review of each one and read it all.
then once you have an idea of the difference.
Cross ref what you've found out with whats
1:Essential
2:important
3:Favoured
4:a bonus feature
Than it will become very clear which one is best for you.
Asking on a forum is just plain lazy, and likely to leave you open to other peoples all too common 'mine rewls' mentality, you need to answer this one yourself m8.
no offence m8 but i didnt have time to do any of that, usually i do research but i found out about the sale a day before it so thanks for advice broski.
i listed the phones i was interested in and thats about how much time i had is to check the specs on the phones available through tmobile. other than that i didnt have time to go around forums and dig through 1000s of BS useless posts to try to locate the defects and shortcomings of every phone...
but unfortunately i ended up not upgrading anyting cuz its not worth it.
Whaaaa? Its always a good time to upgrade :]
Sent From Space Using My ICS Flavored Sensation
the recent tmobile "promotion" was a big fail.
i went to the store and was told that there will be no change in my plan. and i get a the money back once i send the rebate.
to find out that i still have to pay full price for the phone over 20 month period...
that is not a damn promotion its a trick..
why the hell would anyone do that.
you get stuck with this company for 2 years AND you still have to pay full price on the phone.
i can walk in any day and buy that phone with my credit card instead and make payments on it and not have to be binded by 2 year contract...
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no offence m8 but i didnt have time to do any of that, usually i do research but i found out about the sale a day before it so thanks for advice broski.
i listed the phones i was interested in and thats about how much time i had is to check the specs on the phones available through tmobile. other than that i didnt have time to go around forums and dig through 1000s of BS useless posts to try to locate the defects and shortcomings of every phone...
but unfortunately i ended up not upgrading anyting cuz its not worth it.
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lol .......... if you'd actually bothered to try it you'd have found everything in a couple of hours max!!!
Whats better spending some time solving your own procurement issues. After all you know what you need want and desire better than anyone else.
OR
Begging the opinions of other people who don't know you, and whos soundness of advice you have no idea about on a website.
Methinks your method indicates how committed to the venture you where, the outcome speaks volumes
cool thanks lol one person actually tried to help.
what did you not understand i didnt have time to do any research past what little searching i did...
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cool thanks lol one person actually tried to help.
what did you not understand i didnt have time to do any research past what little searching i did...
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ROFLOL ......... yeah but you had plenty of time to wait 5 days whilst you expected others to do your legwork for you
Don't wanna make this personal but your just not getting it
"One person helped"?? No m8 one person tossed you a bone ...... since you where begging, probably just bigging up whatever he owns. Everyone else's response (lack of, should tell you a lot about attitudes to posts like this. Where OP clearly states "I can't be arsed doing what i'd like you chumps to do for me".
Best advice you got was from me, your best at deciding what you need not someone else. Amazes me anyone is so lazy that they would rather take dubious advice from a forum than spend 2-3 hours educating themselves.
How old are you ......... seriously you a teen ???
Galaxy s 2 is good screen is great and lots of roms for it.
ROFLOL BRAH. because sale is over... dont need your help stop helping...
i was hoping that someone could throw some details about the phones i listed, you cant read good can you?.
your advice was not worth any more than a piece of doog poop on a sidewalk.
now that i had more time i did some more research and know more about the phones. but you obviously do not get it. and just have to have the last word even if its not relaed to the topic...
u know if soemone needs help quick i give them an answer and then we figure out if he was lazy or not...
i hope your car breaks down and you go and ask on some automotive forums for help and get same responce as you gave me "its your car you should know whats best for it BRAH!!!"
but maybe you still dont get it..
i found out about the sale a day before the sale. you follow?
i work all day.. still with me?
i was busy in teh evening and couldnt do much research. still there?
next day i was working as well and didnt have time to sit research on teh internets instead of working. after work i went to the tmobile store...
i asked if someone could give me a quick rundown of the common problems of the phones i listed... nothing more.
because i dont know how much clearer i can state my question.
"can anyone that knows more than me about the following phones give me a quick list of major defects "
anyway this thread can be deleted since it turned into useless thread.
Well thats what happens when you post a useless question.
Sent From Space Using My ICS Flavored Sensation
U should buy a basic flip phone. Problem solved. There ya go XD
Sent From Space Using My ICS Flavored Sensation
cool another helper thanks for your help lol
Statutory Warning : This post is SUPER long! May cause delusions, dehydration, rage towards Motorola and/or VZW or depression! For those who can't withstand this post, skip to the end for a one line summary.
So it has been over 8, dreadful and painful months with the DX2. And to dull this pain, I had you guys to follow and read up on. Great devs and their ROMs, Pepperm1nt, Nitro, the_guy_who_made_liberty (Oops, I dunno the name of the guy), Ryman222 for his Molten (which incidentally was my first ROM) and then comes mastafunk, aceoyame and the one and only Dragonzkiller!!! He was THE guy who let me have hope over the last few months (of course, with respect to my phone! If he was the sole reason I'd have hope in my life over the last few months then something is SERIOUSLY wrong with me... ).
There are many others like Moonshadow, TransX2, TravisdroidX2, iBolski (who was the inspiration for my BBB Moto attack), gaad0701, antp121 , Sandso9, ashclepdia(OMG! How did I forget you!) ad infinitum! All of you guys helped me have fun around in these forums and gave me numerous thanks as well. I am very grateful to you and will definitely miss you when I leave. So I'll still pop in every now and then so that I don't completely miss you guys!
Anyway, coming to the actual news! I got a Droid Incredible 2, currently being shipped by VZW with a back plate and a battery as well! Swell! Here is how this happened.
Over the last 1-2 weeks, I got very active in pursuing my Moto and VZW complaints. So, many phone calls, emails and chats have been exchanged. But in short, nothing significant emerged. Then I heard people complaining to VZW and getting a call from an engineer and being offered a Gnex!!! Naturally, I was jealous, but also inspired and motivated to attack VZW to score a new phone.
I got a call from VZW in response to my online complaint. I seized this opportunity to get in touch with a Tech support rep and elaborated and bemoaned about my phone's countless issues. She was sympathetic and TRIED to check if I could possibly get a different phone. Unfortunately I couldn't. BUT she said something that intrigued me! She said that I did not hit the threshold that would make me eligible to getting a different phone. I was told that I needed to order ONE more DX2 replacement device before I can get a different phone. You see, I only ordered one replacement so far. So I hatched a plan.
I ordered a second replacement DX2 (making it the third DX2 I had, the first being the one I purchased and the second and third being the replacements). I ordered it yesterday and I received it today.
Then, I didn't waste anytime tinkering and checking this phone. Instead I activated it and immediately called VZW claiming that this phone had all the issues my previous 2 phones had as well. They lied to you (Moto and VZW) so why not you lie as well! I told them I was not happy and that I was sure that getting another DX2 as a replacement will not help either as it seems to be an issue with all Droid X2's. I added that I was told if I had issues with this phone too, then they may be able to offer me a different model. She looked into it and said, YES, they can offer me a different model!!! Huzzah! Success, finally!
I went through the process and was told that I can have either the HTC Dinc2, the Motorola Droid 3 or the older Samsung Fascinate. Samsung fascinate!? Bleh! No thank you! Droid 3!!!??? Are you ****ing serious!!!??? It is like from one hell to another!!! Not only does it have a locked Bootloader, but it is not even confirmed to get ICS as of now! Plus, I will not go for Droid 3, purely on moral and ethical grounds. I will NOT be doing business with a company that plainly doesn't give a **** about its customers, like Motorola!
On the other hand, HTC has unlocked the Bootloader for the Dinc2 AND it has added Dinc2 to its ICS upgrade list!!! . Plus as per XDA forums, Dinc2 has LOADS of ICS ROMs. Now that is my sort of company!
So sign me up for a HTC Droid Incredible 2 I said to the customer care rep. And she did.
To others wanting to ditch this phone and get a new one like me, the following are some tips and tricks.
1. Complain to VZW. CALL Tech Support: 866-221-4096.Tell them all the faults of your phone you can think of. Refer to this list if you need help : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24528918&postcount=12
2. Tell them that you checked online forums and it appears that ALL DX2's have this problem. So, request them to give you a different device.
3. Now, if you had one or less replacements so far, you MAY not receive a different device. Still, try your best to push for it by stating the systematic issues with it and claiming that ALL DX2's have it. No harm in trying. If not, do what I did and order a replacement DX2 first. It won't cost you anything and you can order another replacement the very next day once you receive this one.
4. After you crossed the threshold of 2 or more replacements, repeat Step 1 and 2. Clearly mention that you have talked to a customer rep previously and that they told you that if you are still facing problems with the device, and if you have had significant replacements (the magic number is 2) then you can be considered/will be eligible to get a different device. Even though this may not have happened, the fact is true and I can confirm it. So, no harm in claiming that you were told as such. Repeat that you are sure and 100% positive that the problem won't be solved by a replacement DX2 and that you really want a different device.
5. After the VZW rep agrees, which I believe he/she will and should, go through your replacement options, choose the device you like best and proceed with ordering it as a replacement. Thank your lucky stars you reached this step. Go to your favorite church/temple/mosque/other spiritual place and pray/donate/do social or community service if you got REAL lucky and got a Gnex or may be even a Razr (though it is Craparola's Razr!!!)
6. Once your device arrives at home, close your eyes and return Craparola's DX2.
7. Profit! Sit back, relax and enjoy your new phone and the new found freedom it provides you!!!
The end!
Once again, I am glad I made SO many friends in this community. I am grateful for the entertainment, fun and thanks you guys gave me! I will pop in regularly and check up if Moto did anything right OR if you guys got CM9/ICS via DZK, some other dev or Moto!!!
May you survive this ****storm and hopefully emerge victorious by making Moto do what you want or be bailed out, like me, via VZW!
Cheers!!!
TL;DR? Well read this: Pained by Motorola and its DX2, I got bailed by VZW. Got myself a HTC Droid Incredible 2, yippee and Woohoo!
If Cspire had better lineup of phones then I would take the same route as I love to hack and fiddle with my devices. But I can't so I'm stuck with it. The phone itself is honestly the best I've had. I'm just disappointed that I can't toy around with it much.
bye...
it was a good run. gave me hope with all the work you did to try and get moto to fix this piece of ****. good luck in the VIVOW (sick codename btw) world. i would go for a dinc2 but my contracts up within the next month. thnks for the shoutout btw and you WILL be missed
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i though about it for ten minutes... so why not give it a shot what phone number did you call? basic customer support?
Wish you would have done this a month ago! Oh well I'm happy with what i got now lol
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Wish you would have done this a month ago! Oh well I'm happy with what i got now lol
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it was a good run. gave me hope with all the work you did to try and get moto to fix this piece of ****. good luck in the VIVOW (sick codename btw) world. i would go for a dinc2 but my contracts up within the next month. thnks for the shoutout btw and you WILL be missed
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i though about it for ten minutes... so why not give it a shot what phone number did you call? basic customer support?
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I guess it is a standard number.
I called Verizon Wireless Technical Support: 866-221-4096
UPDATE: My phone is being shipped! Overnight! But there is a god damn weekend in the middle, so I must wait till Monday!!! :/
Oh, CAN'T WAIT!!!
I picture MoonShadow-NM saying: "Patience, little grasshopper"!!!
By the way, all the time I was talking to the customer rep and then she said she can send me a different model device, my hand was shaking and I was giddy with excitement!!!
Enjoy and good for you. I have been currently watching swappa for another device. I agree with your post and you never know I will see what device I end up on next.
Yea I'm waiting on my BBB complaint right now. Its been only a couple days but I'm holding out hope that I can get something better. As it is now, I love this phone but all the problems make me want another kind. I have a year left on the contract and don't know when early upgrade is but I don't plan on buying another device outright.
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What do you have now?
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4s lol I'm pretty sure i told you this in the irc the other night didn't i?
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4s lol I'm pretty sure i told you this in the irc the other night didn't i?
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LOL!!!! XD XD !!
I keep forgetting!! D'oh! I had a funny feeling I asked you this already. Well now I know!!!
Well, Sandso9, I promise I will remember it this time!
Can't Wait till Monday! But I won't be home on Monday! Hope I can make FedEx leave it at a neighbor's location...
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LOL!!!! XD XD !!
I keep forgetting!! D'oh! I had a funny feeling I asked you this already. Well now I know!!!
Well, Sandso9, I promise I will remember it this time!
Can't Wait till Monday! But I won't be home on Monday! Hope I can make FedEx leave it at a neighbor's location...
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Good luck man your going to love that phone its so nice to escape the x2!
I was offered the Droid Incredible 2 as well, but sent it back. Rooting is complex, and S-Off? What is that? I read the sticky threads, and found out that you actually need to downgrade the phone to root it.
The phone is slow in comparison to the DX2, the stock launcher/homescreens are not customizable, no Bluetooth auto-answer, and I would not be able to tether it without paying another $30 for data that I am already grandfathered in for unlimited.
My phone was fine until I paired my Bluetooth headset, then all the issues started. I need a phone that can handle heavy Bluetooth usage and Bluetooth music listening.
I guess I will wait until August for my upgrade date.
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I was offered the Droid Incredible 2 as well, but sent it back. Rooting is complex, and S-Off? What is that? I read the sticky threads, and found out that you actually need to downgrade the phone to root it.
The phone is slow in comparison to the DX2, the stock launcher/homescreens are not customizable, no Bluetooth auto-answer, and I would not be able to tether it without paying another $30 for data that I am already grandfathered in for unlimited.
My phone was fine until I paired my Bluetooth headset, then all the issues started. I need a phone that can handle heavy Bluetooth usage and Bluetooth music listening.
I guess I will wait until August for my upgrade date.
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Yea If I'm only offered that I think I'll tell them to try harder, a lot harder. As if I'm going to take a device that has a smaller screen and was less money then what I bought my phone for.
YAY!
after much *****ing and crying to VZW, the lady offered me an early upgrade. not much to be excited for bc my contract was up june 18 but this weekend... the rezound is 50$. ordered and on its way! i told her all my problems with the phone, she asked her supervisor if i could get a different replacement. after she said no, (never had a replacement before) i asked if i could get an early upgrade. she said she had to ask her supervisor and 15 mins later she said i could! i then asked of i could have a free rezound she said no but i decided to spring because, well, I HATE THIS PHONE !! should be here by Tuesday if all goes well AND... i have off this week so a LOT of time to tinker. 50 bucks for one of the best vzw phones NOT made by CRAPorola? sign me up anyday. i guess this is goodbye dx2 family thanks to all the great devs we have (DZK, Ace, Nitro) the modders (motcher, MoonShadow, skwoodwiva) the themers (hedwig ) and the all around good people in this forum (Ash, Litetaker, BreatheALittle) ill pop back in every once in a while just to see if moto shapes up Good Luck in all your endeavors and hope you all are able to move past this phone
PS: Breathe i hope you do get the Rezound, that way we can fight, i mean share our passion for hockey some more lol
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after much *****ing and crying to VZW, the lady offered me an early upgrade. not much to be excited for bc my contract was up june 18 but this weekend... the rezound is 50$. ordered and on its way! i told her all my problems with the phone, she asked her supervisor if i could get a different replacement. after she said no, (never had a replacement before) i asked if i could get an early upgrade. she said she had to ask her supervisor and 15 mins later she said i could! i then asked of i could have a free rezound she said no but i decided to spring because, well, I HATE THIS PHONE !! should be here by Tuesday if all goes well AND... i have off this week so a LOT of time to tinker. 50 bucks for one of the best vzw phones NOT made by CRAPorola? sign me up anyday. i guess this is goodbye dx2 family thanks to all the great devs we have (DZK, Ace, Nitro) the modders (motcher, MoonShadow, skwoodwiva) the themers (hedwig ) and the all around good people in this forum (Ash, Litetaker, BreatheALittle) ill pop back in every once in a while just to see if moto shapes up Good Luck in all your endeavors and hope you all are able to move past this phone
PS: Breathe i hope you do get the Rezound, that way we can fight, i mean share our passion for hockey some more lol
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Good for you mate! I couldn't have gotten an early upgrade as my upgrade is April next year! Will thank you tomorrow as I ran out of thanks for today!
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Good for you mate! I couldn't have gotten an early upgrade as my upgrade is April next year! Will thank you tomorrow as I ran out of thanks for today!
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haha thanks man i guess ill see you around... i was planing on getting the dinc2 but she wouldnt give me one. so much for that l lol the rezound is a little thick for my liking but hey its got a hd screen, dual core, 4-****ing-G, gig o ram and to top it all off UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER!! WOOT.
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UPDATE: My phone is being shipped! Overnight! But there is a god damn weekend in the middle, so I must wait till Monday!!! :/
Oh, CAN'T WAIT!!!
I picture MoonShadow-NM saying: "Patience, little grasshopper"!!!
By the way, all the time I was talking to the customer rep and then she said she can send me a different model device, my hand was shaking and I was giddy with excitement!!!
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Dude I had the EXACT same feeling when the person I bought my nexus from told me they put it on eBay with buy it now at 350(I am doing a split payment on it, so he put the nexus on for 350buy it now and extended bat for 100 that I pay for next week) and after he told me I refreshed the page and it wasn't showing up at first I was like seriously if someone got it in that 15seconds since he notified me it was ready I would have flipped lol
But for the whole two hours I was conversing with the guy my adrenaline was flowing for sure lmfao
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I was offered the Droid Incredible 2 as well, but sent it back. Rooting is complex, and S-Off? What is that? I read the sticky threads, and found out that you actually need to downgrade the phone to root it.
The phone is slow in comparison to the DX2, the stock launcher/homescreens are not customizable, no Bluetooth auto-answer, and I would not be able to tether it without paying another $30 for data that I am already grandfathered in for unlimited.
My phone was fine until I paired my Bluetooth headset, then all the issues started. I need a phone that can handle heavy Bluetooth usage and Bluetooth music listening.
I guess I will wait until August for my upgrade date.
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The downgrade to root and s-off is a one time deal
Once u have s-off u root easily any build u want usually
That's how it was with my buddies incredible
It was actually a LOT easier than I expected it to be lol
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litetaker said:
UPDATE: My phone is being shipped! Overnight! But there is a god damn weekend in the middle, so I must wait till Monday!!! :/
Oh, CAN'T WAIT!!!
I picture MoonShadow-NM saying: "Patience, little grasshopper"!!!
By the way, all the time I was talking to the customer rep and then she said she can send me a different model device, my hand was shaking and I was giddy with excitement!!!
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I will be doing this on Tuesday when my replacement comes. I think I was too nice to them when I yelled at them on Thursday.
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Not speaking about all reps. But most if not all I have encountered dont know
Sh0t. I call them about carrier billing. It is not working for me for some reason. They first want to check my imei/meid to see if my device and line support it. I am put on hold for 5 minutes and they come back stating they cant find a way for me to access these items. I tell them either on back under battery or in about phone under settings. They so OK, then ask me to read it. We proceed to featuers blocked on my line. They say the only thing blocked is the MBBN. I ask if that will block billing and he says I honestly dont know. I then ask him if I need to contact the FCC. He then asks "What is a FCC?" I say really... so then I have to explain to him what that is. Subject never gets resolved. Moral of this story, might not want to look to VZW for certain support info. Anyone else ever encounter a problem like this with VZW support.
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Not speaking about all reps. But most if not all I have encountered dont know
Sh0t. I call them about carrier billing. It is not working for me for some reason. They first want to check my imei/meid to see if my device and line support it. I am put on hold for 5 minutes and they come back stating they cant find a way for me to access these items. I tell them either on back under battery or in about phone under settings. They so OK, then ask me to read it. We proceed to featuers blocked on my line. They say the only thing blocked is the MBBN. I ask if that will block billing and he says I honestly dont know. I then ask him if I need to contact the FCC. He then asks "What is a FCC?" I say really... so then I have to explain to him what that is. Subject never gets resolved. Moral of this story, might not want to look to VZW for certain support info. Anyone else ever encounter a problem like this with VZW support.
Sent from my rooted Verizon Galaxy Note 2. FU Verizon and all tour BS you throw around.
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All the time. In store I had a rep tell me that their verizon intuition had "way better" the specs then the note 2. I loled
I think I would have had a natural reflex and slapped them
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A lot of techie stores are like this. The people working there know sqwak and then like to give people that do know stuff dirty looks. Whenever I'm in a Best Buy with my dad and a rep comes over we tell them we're fine and my dad always makes a joke like "I'm fine with him, he knows everything." The reps just glare me down. Most of them stand next to the info tag and read directly from it to the customer they're helping which is pretty sad.
They give jobs to 20 year olds that still say "axe" instead of "ask," use other slang/ghetto speak, and don't know the difference between two TVs besides one is LG and LCD the other is Sony and LED, but don't accept the 17 year old that goes to a prestigious high school in the area and who's resume shows tech experience.
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A lot of techie stores are like this. The people working there know sqwak and then like to give people that do know stuff dirty looks. Whenever I'm in a Best Buy with my dad and a rep comes over we tell them we're fine and my dad always makes a joke like "I'm fine with him, he knows everything." The reps just glare me down. Most of them stand next to the info tag and read directly from it to the customer they're helping which is pretty sad.
They give jobs to 20 year olds that still say "axe" instead of "ask," use other slang/ghetto speak, and don't know the difference between two TVs besides one is LG and LCD the other is Sony and LED, but don't accept the 17 year old that goes to a prestigious high school in the area and who's resume shows tech experience.
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Any sales experience? Pretty sure 6 months is required. I applied with 1 year of sales and IT experience and said no after they wanted to make me a cashier.
Best Buy is terrible anyway. I ordered the Collector's Edition of Diablo 3 at a store that was closing (found out 3 weeks after I ordered) and got an email that I needed to call them to change the store or ship it to my house. I called them 5 times and opened 2 cases. They couldn't get it changed or shipped to my house because of a glitch it the system. 2 days before the game came out they said they would "send it to the correct department for viewing" and yeah... never got it.
Verizon is terrible about knowing about their phones (in or out of the store). When I bought my Thunderbolt, the first rep said I didn't have a discounted upgrade (literally saw it on her little tablet thing that I did) so I went to the next rep and he didn't know how much internal storage their was. Needless to say, I've ordered online since then.
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A lot of techie stores are like this. The people working there know sqwak and then like to give people that do know stuff dirty looks. Whenever I'm in a Best Buy with my dad and a rep comes over we tell them we're fine and my dad always makes a joke like "I'm fine with him, he knows everything." The reps just glare me down. Most of them stand next to the info tag and read directly from it to the customer they're helping which is pretty sad.
They give jobs to 20 year olds that still say "axe" instead of "ask," use other slang/ghetto speak, and don't know the difference between two TVs besides one is LG and LCD the other is Sony and LED, but don't accept the 17 year old that goes to a prestigious high school in the area and who's resume shows tech experience.
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A friend of mine works at the Target Mobile kiosk; he literally knows crap-all about phones, owns an old smartphone he's never turned on, and whenever I'm there talking to him, I end up telling the customers more about the phones they look at than he does. Which is why I work in a car wash, and he tries to sell people tech he doesn't understand. It's practically a joke by now.
Did you really pull the FCC card because of an account snafu?
That makes you as ridiculous as the rep.
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Did you really pull the FCC card because of an account snafu?
That makes you as ridiculous as the rep.
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That's about what i was thinking.
A lot depends on the customers attitude.
A buddy of my Son's works at BestBuy. He and all his coworkers are great guys.
I stop in there all the time to shoot the breeze with those guys.
As long as you don't go in there with a "know it all" attitude, I find the BB guys are all helpful & a pleasure to talk to.
Some of them are tech geeks & others are not so knowledgeable but they don't pay sh!t so that's understandable.
I have had some great tech B.S. sessions concerning ROMs, locked bootloaders etc with these guys.
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adrynalyne said:
Did you really pull the FCC card because of an account snafu?
That makes you as ridiculous as the rep.
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No kidding.
jmorton10 said:
A lot depends on the customers attitude.
A buddy of my Son's works at BestBuy. He and all his coworkers are great guys.
I stop in there all the time to shoot the breeze with those guys.
As long as you don't go in there with a "know it all" attitude, I find the BB guys are all helpful & a pleasure to talk to.
Some of them are tech geeks & others are not so knowledgeable but they don't pay sh!t so that's understandable.
I have had some great tech B.S. sessions concerning ROMs, locked bootloaders etc with these guys.
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No kidding.
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You are right about attitude as well. When I exchanged my DNA for my Note II, I could have berated and slammed the rep working with me that was telling me that KLP source was online, but instead I just lightly conversed with him and ignored it.
As a result, I was in and out quickly without any troubles.
Be careful how you treat people who are in a position to screw you. He could have easily nixed my unlimited data because I was getting in through a loophole.
About 10 years ago I worked for MS doing tech support. If a customer was a douche to me (or acted like a know it all), the resolution immediately became format and reinstall the OS. If they hung up on me, I put it in the notes and as a senior tech, others listened to me. However, if you were acting decent and respectful, I would fix your OS without reinstalling it and potentially losing data.
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They give jobs to 20 year olds that still say "axe" instead of "ask," use other slang/ghetto speak, and don't know the difference between two TVs besides one is LG and LCD the other is Sony and LED, but don't accept the 17 year old that goes to a prestigious high school in the area and who's resume shows tech experience.
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Technically they are both LCDs, just with different backlighting.
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About 10 years ago I worked for MS doing tech support. If a customer was a douche to me (or acted like a know it all), the resolution immediately became format and reinstall the OS. If they hung up on me, I put it in the notes and as a senior tech, others listened to me. However, if you were acting decent and respectful, I would fix your OS without reinstalling it and potentially losing data.
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LOL, I can relate to that.
A number of years ago I did some tech support for HP Pavilion desktops.
Same thing, if the customer was a douche I would simply tell them the only fix was to run the recovery disc which was the same thing as a format and OS reinstall.
Some of the customers where great however and with them I occasionally spent hours on the phone with them, walking a novice through basic PC troubleshooting etc.
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Technically they are both LCDs, just with different backlighting.
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And they probably wouldn't know that
Lol. Was all part of it. He didnt know anything else. In all reality was a test. No lie did it on purpose
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I work at a store and me and one other guy knows what we're talking about...so yeah you get about a 5 percent chance of the reps knowing anything, but as a guy said before me it's easier to be nice to the rep and probably get what you want than to be a Douche and end up getting nothing and possibly losing something.
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No offense to anyone, but if you know enough to be here at XDA there should be no reason to step foot inside a store or call tech support. I buy all my gear online and If I call tech its because I already know it's gonna be a warranty replacement. I do the little song and dance on the phone, and a couple days later the phone shows up.
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I wasnt mean.
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Yep, I really don't get the folks trying to buy stuff in stores or calling tech support. It's literally just someone reading a screen, there is no such thing as tech info you can't find yourself online and quicker than tech support. Sad but true.
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The moral of this story is:
Be nice to the guys at the store or on the phone. They make less than you do, and they have to deal with a hundred people just like you every day. They don't owe you anything but if you're cool they'll help you out. Oddly enough this is a lesson which can be applied to human interactions everywhere in your life.
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No offense to anyone, but if you know enough to be here at XDA there should be no reason to step foot inside a store or call tech support. I buy all my gear online and If I call tech its because I already know it's gonna be a warranty replacement. I do the little song and dance on the phone, and a couple days later the phone shows up.
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All you have to know to be here at XDA is how to read and follow a simple sign up. Not that special.
mr_schticker said:
Yep, I really don't get the folks trying to buy stuff in stores or calling tech support. It's literally just someone reading a screen, there is no such thing as tech info you can't find yourself online and quicker than tech support. Sad but true.
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Most tech supports have a database of issues that have occurred in the past and how to fix them (not found on Google). There are also things that can happen that is beyond the user's control. I didn't get a delivery notice from Verizon for my Note 2 so I called them and found out there was a bug in the system and we had to resubmit it. If I had your way of thinking on the matter I would have never got my phone.
Just because many people here at XDA don't need tech support, doesn't mean the majority of people don't. You can see this in most mod/ROM threads. Lots of people ask questions because they have issues and the communuty helps them out (basically tech support). I work in IT and some people don't know anything about electronics eventhough they work with them everyday.
Not trying to attack you guys or anything, just trying to bring the real world to a tech forum since I help them every day.
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