[Q] Is it possible to make this? - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Okay, I was thinking about an app to make...
The perfect idea hit my brain.
It involves using my android phone as an input device, and then controlling my Galaxy Tab with it. It would be a magic mouse, just for Android to Tablet.
I have ideas of going about this, but I'm not sure it's possible.
1. Build the mouse app on the phone, to mimic a mouse, or track pad. Then make Bluetooth functionality like the app that pairs PS3 and Android Phones. Add the track pad area, buttons, scroolbar on the right hand side, some nice GUI, and bam, it's paired and working.
2. Build the mouse app on the phone, to mimic a mouse, or track pad. Then create a receiving server app for the tablet, that includes settings, mouse speed, the connection, login, etc. Then make some kind of something on the phone to be able to connect and communicate with the tablet's server app, to allow it to be set, paired and then working.
Would either two of these be possible?

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The one and only - one remote for ALL ur devcies

hey guys
dont know if anybody has explained that but its possible to create one remote for all (with most common used commands)
in my case i control my sagem iptv stb, onkyo av reciever and my samsung LE46C750
create a remote with manual adding comands and use the remote from device of ur needs
example
sagem remote for channel up,down,epg,...
onkyo remote volume up, down, sound modes,...
samsung only the menu, input and dvb input...
try it it works too with oldern devices, maybe some parents active here, the tablet is the ultimate parental control ^^
I think it's a good idea. Universal remote for basic commands then just register the device by itself for more complex commands.
Now we need a way to trick it to do macros. I'll need one icon tap that'll turn on my Sat receiver, amp, and TV, as well as sets them to the proper inputs for that activity. Another icon to tap for my BlueRay player, amp, and TV. Etc.. Until then my Logitech Harmony wins the Sofa award.
4dthinker said:
Now we need a way to trick it to do macros. I'll need one icon tap that'll turn on my Sat receiver, amp, and TV, as well as sets them to the proper inputs for that activity. Another icon to tap for my BlueRay player, amp, and TV. Etc.. Until then my Logitech Harmony wins the Sofa award.
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^ +1 agreed. Macros would make this unbeatable!
Hmmm... I used to have a 20 something dollar sony remote that was programmable for macros. I wonder if that eoyuld work in this case...although my hrmony app for google tv does the job just fine.
There will be an update coming for the remote software either later this year of beginning of next... In the mean time, to set up one universal remote you can just add a device, sect learn from remote, choose "other" then teach it controls from all your other devices and label the buttons what you like, takes time but saves switching between devices.
What if I send a all ready made "macro signal" from my logitech multi remote to the tablet for example the on/off button?
try it out!
I tried to send a macro command to the sony tablet from my harmony remote that should turn my tv on switch it to hdmi, turn on my popcorn hour and turn on my stereo. It recognised the command but only applied the first 2 steps.
So i think the tablet is able to learn macros but not on several devices.....
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Control a PC using Android without server software?

I've messed with many different apps on my Android phone that, in conjunction with a server app, allow me to control my PC with my phone. I'm curious though if there is a hardware solution that does the same thing and doesn't require any server software to be installed on the PC?
Here's my idea. A dongle that's plugged into your PC and is recognized as a generic HID device. The dongle then connects to your phone via BT. Then using an app on the phone, you can now use your phone as a keyboard, mouse, or PowerPoint controller.
This would be great for times when you don't have admin rights on the PC needing controlled and wouldn't be able to install a piece of software, but you can at least hook up a mouse or keyboard and they work. I have to do a lot of PowerPoint presentations at school and would love to just simply pop a dongle into the PC and almost immediately be able to start controlling the presentation from my phone.
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It's a good thought, but I think it's overkill for just that purpose.
I guess the main use is to utilize your phone as keyboard input? otherwise, you could just plugin a wireless mouse to control the presentation.
I also assume that your ppt is being presented from the PC, instead of from the phone, right?
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It's a good thought, but I think it's overkill for just that purpose.
I guess the main use is to utilize your phone as keyboard input? otherwise, you could just plugin a wireless mouse to control the presentation.
I also assume that your ppt is being presented from the PC, instead of from the phone, right?
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I suppose it may be overkill, sure. I was hoping to minimize what I would have to be carrying around with me. It would be handy to just have a small USB plug sized dongle only with me that I can just plug and and go and not have to have a mouse. Even a small mouse can be a bit of a bulge, and it's something that's easier to break than a small dongle.
And yes, the PPT would be running from the PC, most likely on the teachers computer that's hooked to the rooms projector.
Hmm, TeamViewer can be run without being installed. That may help. Just click on "Run" instead of "Install" on the menu.
No server software
I really don't understand why this isn't implemented already. In theory all you would need is the HID driver in an app on your phone and transmit over Bluetooth. Not sure what the complication is.
I had a feature phone that could do this in 2009, without any software installed anywhere, using standard Bluetooth and HID drivers.

Input app for Windows that actually works properly?

I've tried Unified Remote and WinApp off the market, both highly rated, both practically useless for me, if for example you run a setup program the input just stops working so you have to plug a mouse in to complete which completely renders the app pointless to me. That was just an example, all of the ones I've tried have been so flakey as to be frustrating.
Are there any apps that can act as keyboard and mouse for a remote windows system that actually work 100% of the time?
I used to use Gmote a while back and never ran into the issues you're describing. I think now its primary function is based around media control but has a track pad and keyboard function.

WORKING: Sony NSG-MR5U Bluetooth Remote

I was able to successfully pair my Sony NSG-MR5U Remote (from my old Google TV NSZ-GS7)
Keypad works great, directional pad works but the center button on the pad does not function as the "select" button. If you press the "
Enter" key, that serves as the select button as well as the play/pause option on youtube. The mouse/touch pad also does not seem to work as well. The back button and the home button work fine as well. Still playing around with it trying other buttons to see what they do in other apps.
To enable or force pair mode:
Hold Fn + the center button between the navigation arrows on the remote side. you will notice the green light flashing in a slightly different pattern than while pressing the buttons.
The 1st try found the remote but failed when trying to pair. I played around with the Fn + center button a couple more times during paring mode and it finally paired successfully.
This will more than likely work with NSG-MR7U as well.
chibluboy said:
This will more than likely work with NSG-MR7U as well.
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I can verify that all that you have said is true for the NSG-MR7U as well. Tried it all this morning.
Someone from the kodi forums seems to have worked on a patch for the Linux Kernel, but it seems abandonned as the last threads are pretty old.
Here is the informations I've found :
The kodi forum (look the jflatt post where he says everything but the accelerometer works) : http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=153504
The patch (by Jason Flatt, or jflatt) : http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-input/msg26324.html
I don't have any coding abilities, maybe some xda-dev could help create a working module for Android.
Yes...mine works as well, however the center ok button on the directional pad does not work for some reason...very annoying.
Select/OK Button
Well I got the select button in the middle of the direction pad working by installing External Keyboard Helper an app in the play store (web play store!). I then created a custom keyboard layout and programmed the select button as enter!!! Almost perfect, but still no mouse!
I would totally buy one of these if there was a way to get the mouse working! This remote was very well designed and would go great with my NP
I had been trying to get this damned remote to work with my stuff for years. short of finding a developer to create a proper working driver for it, i dont think we will have much success getting it to work completely functional with anything.
Although, i wonder if anyone with the original google tv player this remote works with, can somehow find and pull the android drivers from it? maybe someone here can tweak the driver to make the mouse and other functions work with the nexus player?
I've been playing around trying to figure something out with a different device, and found that in the root directory, going into /system/usr/keylayouts brings up a few files with a .kl extension to them. Its in these kl files that some devices are configured with scan codes. If we can find the proper scan codes for this remote, as well as the device and vendor ID, I think we might be able to create our own kl file specifically for this remote to make it do whatever we want. I think for everything except the mouse/touchpad unfortunately.
Personally im busy and wont be able to jump right onto looking into this, but if anyone is willing to beat me to it, a little research might help configure it. i dont think the mouse/touchpad is affected by this file though: there was only one other file in the folder for a device with an existing mouse/touchpad (the logitech revue, to be exact) and i dont recall seeing any sort of settings related to a touchpad or mouse other than the left and right mouse buttons, but its a step in the right direction.
You can find the device and property ID by pairing the remote to your windows pc, going into device manager and looking in properties for the remote. Not sure how to find scancodes, but if anyone is familiar with Event Ghost, I seem to recall being able to play with the remote in that program (paired to my pc) and i think i was able to pull up scancodes through the programs log. not positive though. just mentioning all of this because unless someone beats me to it, i might not be able to get to it for another month myself.
do you all think that a PS3 or PS4 remote will connect to the nexus player
Not working for me
Any idea why?
I Hold Fn + the enter key between the navigations buttons on the NSG-MR7U, hit the "add accessory" button on the Nexus Player, but it just goes on searching for accessories without finding anything. The led on the remote's side panel is blinking quickly, but as said nothing seems to be happening.
Thanks,
Roy
With the Sony Nsz gs7 remote, will I be able to control my TV & Sony audio system all by itself without connecting the Sony google tv? I understand Sony google tv has loop through and IR sensor which could be programmed for our devices. My requirement with TV & audio system is going to be very limited like power, input toggle & volume controls. Can anybody please confirm?
shahul_555 said:
With the Sony Nsz gs7 remote, will I be able to control my TV & Sony audio system all by itself without connecting the Sony google tv? I understand Sony google tv has loop through and IR sensor which could be programmed for our devices. My requirement with TV & audio system is going to be very limited like power, input toggle & volume controls. Can anybody please confirm?
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You will not be able to control other items of equipment like you did when it was connected to the NSZ-GS7. The remote is a Bluetooth remote only. It was able to do so because the NSZ-GS7 had the ability to transmit IR. I use it connected to my media server PC, which also has an IR receiver/transmitter, and Event Ghost to turn on/off my system, control volume, and switch inputs (and d-pad and transport controls if I'm using Windows Media Center or Power DVD). But it can only be connected to a single device at a time, so I still use the stock remote to control the Nexus Player. Yeah, it's not a single remote solution, but it's the best I could come up with.
ninja_rancher said:
You will not be able to control other items of equipment like you did when it was connected to the NSZ-GS7. The remote is a Bluetooth remote only. It was able to do so because the NSZ-GS7 had the ability to transmit IR. I use it connected to my media server PC, which also has an IR receiver/transmitter, and Event Ghost to turn on/off my system, control volume, and switch inputs (and d-pad and transport controls if I'm using Windows Media Center or Power DVD). But it can only be connected to a single device at a time, so I still use the stock remote to control the Nexus Player. Yeah, it's not a single remote solution, but it's the best I could come up with.
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Thanks for the detailed response. I hoped Sony ps3 remote would solve my problem but unfortunately I was not able to pair to Nexus player because of the pairing code issue. If only it had worked it would have been my ideal single remote.
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ninja_rancher said:
You will not be able to control other items of equipment like you did when it was connected to the NSZ-GS7. The remote is a Bluetooth remote only. It was able to do so because the NSZ-GS7 had the ability to transmit IR. I use it connected to my media server PC, which also has an IR receiver/transmitter, and Event Ghost to turn on/off my system, control volume, and switch inputs (and d-pad and transport controls if I'm using Windows Media Center or Power DVD). But it can only be connected to a single device at a time, so I still use the stock remote to control the Nexus Player. Yeah, it's not a single remote solution, but it's the best I could come up with.
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Thanks very much for this info. I am yet another person who loves this little remote. I have the MR7U and am attempting to use it with my windows 7 Pc running Kodi. So far I got it paired to my Samsung Note 5 just to play around with. I still need a Bluetooth dongle for my PC, are there any you recommend? Also, I am interested in what you used as an IR transmitter for your PC. I read about Eventghost and have an idea of what it's about. I did notice what you said about the "ok" button not working. I have a harmony remote with IR and RF but I really need the keyboard so I've committed to the idea of using the MR7U and retiring the Harmony. I'm confident I can get the MR7U to do what I want with kodi, but I want to be able to use it to also transmit IR to my Sony receiver and Bravia TV. Can I use the PC IR transmitter to turn on the TV, control the volume on my receiver and control Kodi simultaneously? Any info shared is greatly appreciated!
Jaygatesny said:
Thanks very much for this info. I am yet another person who loves this little remote. I have the MR7U and am attempting to use it with my windows 7 Pc running Kodi. So far I got it paired to my Samsung Note 5 just to play around with. I still need a Bluetooth dongle for my PC, are there any you recommend? Also, I am interested in what you used as an IR transmitter for your PC. I read about Eventghost and have an idea of what it's about. I did notice what you said about the "ok" button not working. I have a harmony remote with IR and RF but I really need the keyboard so I've committed to the idea of using the MR7U and retiring the Harmony. I'm confident I can get the MR7U to do what I want with kodi, but I want to be able to use it to also transmit IR to my Sony receiver and Bravia TV. Can I use the PC IR transmitter to turn on the TV, control the volume on my receiver and control Kodi simultaneously? Any info shared is greatly appreciated!
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Even though it's slightly off-topic for using the MR5U/MR7U with the Nexus Player, I'll try and answer some of your questions. First, as far as the PC Bluetooth dongle goes, I just bought a generic cheap one off of eBay for under $5 (USD). Just search for 'usb bluetooth dongle' or 'usb bluetooth adapter'. As far as the "OK" button not working, I believe that was only when it was directly paired with the Nexus Player. All buttons seem to work fine for me when paired with my PC.
Second, I am using a Gateway USB IR receiver (like http://www.ebay.com/itm/GATEWAY-USB...967892?hash=item33ad7cc714:g:PUIAAOSwnH1WWmvY). Also cheap, also off of eBay. It used to be used for receiving IR as well when I had the Sony NSZ-GS7 and I had it blasting its TV and receiver IR codes to my PC instead. But now I just use it as an IR emitter controlled by EventGhost.
You should be able to do everything you want as far as device and app control. The only gotcha I encountered is that I had to disable the Windows 'Human Interface Device Access' service (hidserv). Because the remote pairs as a HID device, there are some buttons that Windows was interpreting automatically. Like the volume and menu buttons. If you want volume to control your receiver, then you need to disable the service to prevent Windows from adjusting its own volume. But it's all very doable. I use the MR5U remote to power my enter system on (TV, receiver), change volume of my receiver, switch inputs on my receiver, and control Windows Media Center or PowerDVD when I have to switch away from the Nexus Player to watch live TV or play a physical disc that I haven't ripped into Plex yet. Just have to have the time and the determination to do it.
ninja_rancher said:
You will not be able to control other items of equipment like you did when it was connected to the NSZ-GS7. The remote is a Bluetooth remote only. It was able to do so because the NSZ-GS7 had the ability to transmit IR. I use it connected to my media server PC, which also has an IR receiver/transmitter, and Event Ghost to turn on/off my system, control volume, and switch inputs (and d-pad and transport controls if I'm using Windows Media Center or Power DVD). But it can only be connected to a single device at a time, so I still use the stock remote to control the Nexus Player. Yeah, it's not a single remote solution, but it's the best I could come up with.
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ninja_rancher said:
Even though it's slightly off-topic for using the MR5U/MR7U with the Nexus Player, I'll try and answer some of your questions. First, as far as the PC Bluetooth dongle goes, I just bought a generic cheap one off of eBay for under $5 (USD). Just search for 'usb bluetooth dongle' or 'usb bluetooth adapter'. As far as the "OK" button not working, I believe that was only when it was directly paired with the Nexus Player. All buttons seem to work fine for me when paired with my PC.
Second, I am using a Gateway USB IR receiver (like Also cheap, also off of eBay. It used to be used for receiving IR as well when I had the Sony NSZ-GS7 and I had it blasting its TV and receiver IR codes to my PC instead. But now I just use it as an IR emitter controlled by EventGhost.
You should be able to do everything you want as far as device and app control. The only gotcha I encountered is that I had to disable the Windows 'Human Interface Device Access' service (hidserv). Because the remote pairs as a HID device, there are some buttons that Windows was interpreting automatically. Like the volume and menu buttons. If you want volume to control your receiver, then you need to disable the service to prevent Windows from adjusting its own volume. But it's all very doable. I use the MR5U remote to power my enter system on (TV, receiver), change volume of my receiver, switch inputs on my receiver, and control Windows Media Center or PowerDVD when I have to switch away from the Nexus Player to watch live TV or play a physical disc that I haven't ripped into Plex yet. Just have to have the time and the determination to do it.
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I'm determined! Haha. I'm going to be ditching cable TV for a few months so Kodi and ps4 will be my only devices. I'm following everything you've said and am very confident at this point. The last question I have is, how do you make the PC's IR emitter send the correct codes to the TV and receiver (on/off, volume, input)? Is there software I would need to learn/program the correct codes to blast? I'm mean there has to be right? Thanks!
Jaygatesny said:
I'm determined! Haha. I'm going to be ditching cable TV for a few months so Kodi and ps4 will be my only devices. I'm following everything you've said and am very confident at this point. The last question I have is, how do you make the PC's IR emitter send the correct codes to the TV and receiver (on/off, volume, input)? Is there software I would need to learn/program the correct codes to blast? I'm mean there has to be right? Thanks!
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There are a couple of ways to accomplish this--assuming you are using EventGhost. The most fool-proof way is if you can find the Pronto remote HEX codes for the device(s) you want to control (the Files section of remotecentral.com is your friend). EventGhost has the ability to enter these codes for emitting IR. Otherwise, depending on the IR receiver/transmitter you buy, the IR plugin for EventGhost will allow you to "learn" a code from a remote. I've found this route to be a bit trial-and-error, though. As there are things that can affect the accuracy of the capture, like distance, the time you hold the remote button down for, etc. If you use this method, expect your workflow to be capture/test until you actually get the captured waveform to control your device.
ninja_rancher said:
There are a couple of ways to accomplish this--assuming you are using EventGhost. The most fool-proof way is if you can find the Pronto remote HEX codes for the device(s) you want to control (the Files section of remotecentral.com is your friend). EventGhost has the ability to enter these codes for emitting IR. Otherwise, depending on the IR receiver/transmitter you buy, the IR plugin for EventGhost will allow you to "learn" a code from a remote. I've found this route to be a bit trial-and-error, though. As there are things that can affect the accuracy of the capture, like distance, the time you hold the remote button down for, etc. If you use this method, expect your workflow to be capture/test until you actually get the captured waveform to control your device.
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You have been an extraordinary help. I think I'm ready to start ordering what I need and getting my hands dirty. One last thing. Does the IR emitter you have come with software or just drivers? The only gap in my fully understanding this is how to tell Event Ghost to tell this emitter what codes to push once I have them? Thanks again, and I will report back with any info I encounter that could help others.
Jaygatesny said:
You have been an extraordinary help. I think I'm ready to start ordering what I need and getting my hands dirty. One last thing. Does the IR emitter you have come with software or just drivers? The only gap in my fully understanding this is how to tell Event Ghost to tell this emitter what codes to push once I have them? Thanks again, and I will report back with any info I encounter that could help others.
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There are no drivers or software for the IR receiver/emitter. Windows is able to recognize it directly. From EventGhost, you will use the 'Microsoft MCE Remote - Vista/Win7' plugin (plus a service that it installs) in order for EventGhost to generate events on incoming IR and to send out IR (either from Pronto HEX codes or via capture). To use the MR5U/MR7U, you will use the 'Generic HID' plugin to perform actions on the button press events. The list of EventGhost plugins can be found here: http://eventghost.org/docs/pluginlist.html (some have links to individual documentation posts). So neither the IR receiver/emitter nor the Bluetooth dongle needed any extra drivers...they just worked out of the box.
ninja_rancher said:
There are no drivers or software for the IR receiver/emitter. Windows is able to recognize it directly. From EventGhost, you will use the 'Microsoft MCE Remote - Vista/Win7' plugin (plus a service that it installs) in order for EventGhost to generate events on incoming IR and to send out IR (either from Pronto HEX codes or via capture). To use the MR5U/MR7U, you will use the 'Generic HID' plugin to perform actions on the button press events. The list of EventGhost plugins can be found. (some have links to individual documentation posts). So neither the IR receiver/emitter nor the Bluetooth dongle needed any extra drivers...they just worked out of the box.
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Understood. I watched some tutorials about event ghost and have a basic understanding now. Also won that gateway ir blaster just now. Just gotta order the bluetooth dongle tonight. Should be good to go soon! Will report back in a couple weeks. Thanks greatly!!

Looking for an app that will make full use of my BT mouse

Hi,
This is a tricky question, I fear. I bought a Bluetooth mouse, and I'm using it when I connect remotely to my computer (using Google's Remote desktop). I thought it would be used like on a computer, but I see that:
- I have to press my left mouse button and then move it in order to move the mouse pointer in my computer.
- Right clicking the mouse does nothing.
- Scroll does nothing.
So I'm not sure what I'm looking for. Perhaps an app to remotely connect to my computer that can utilize a mouse as is. Perhaps an app that somehow monitors my Bluetooth mouse and allows it to right click and scroll. Perhaps both.
Anyone have any suggestion? Thank you!
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