My problem is this: I can't root my device on the stock kernel and rom. (tried superoneclick 2.3.3, DoomLorD's Easy Rooting Toolkit 4.0)
But before I start to explore custom kernels and roms, I'd like to back them up. But all the guides I found uses clockworkmod and a rooted rom.
So my question is this: can you back up your rom without rooting it?
My device:
- YP-G70
- 2.3.6 GINGERBREAD.XWKP6
- kernel: 2.6.35.7 [email protected] #2
radir said:
My problem is this: I can't root my device on the stock kernel and rom. (tried superoneclick 2.3.3, DoomLorD's Easy Rooting Toolkit 4.0)
But before I start to explore custom kernels and roms, I'd like to back them up. But all the guides I found uses clockworkmod and a rooted rom.
So my question is this: can you back up your rom without rooting it?
My device:
- YP-G70
- 2.3.6 GINGERBREAD.XWKP6
- kernel: 2.6.35.7 [email protected] #2
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Turn off all of your computers security, unzip superoneclick again and then root. Make sure USB debugging is on. Your virus protection is automatically deleting files that you need to root. Or you can just flash a rooted kernel via Odin.
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For rooting I asked for help in another topic, but no one could help.
But as I wrote it there, I tried everything. Of course the first step is to turn off the virus protection. Usb debugging is always on, after that I think I tried everything. Running the apps in admin mode, not in admin mode, dismounted the sd card, removed the sd card, tried with sd card, etc.
But rooting is not the issue here. I gave it up on this rom. What I'd like to know, is this: can you back up your stock rom without rooting it. Because before I flash another rom, I'd like to back up the stock rom.
But anyway, thanks for the help.
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radir said:
For rooting I asked for help in another topic, but no one could help.
But as I wrote it there, I tried everything. Of course the first step is to turn off the virus protection. Usb debugging is always on, after that I think I tried everything. Running the apps in admin mode, not in admin mode, dismounted the sd card, removed the sd card, tried with sd card, etc.
But rooting is not the issue here. I gave it up on this rom. What I'd like to know, is this: can you back up your stock rom without rooting it. Because before I flash another rom, I'd like to back up the stock rom.
But anyway, thanks for the help.
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I don't think so, since you need the su/sudo command to run dd and backup the player's partitions.
About the rooting. There are some GB rom's that are somehow patched, so rooting is a no-go.
Well I made a leap of faith, and installed rj's custom kernel. Everything works well so far. With the installed clockworkmod, I can backup now. Even the rooting problem is solved too.
Well this is not a solution for the problem, but a workaround, but it works, so I'm happy.
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hey
so i bought an optimus one this week and have already noticed the touch lag and stuff.
was always gonna root it, and have done jailbreaking on ipt/iphones but i know nothing about the android equivalent apart from what i have googled since then.
have read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901247 and a lot of other stuff and i thought i got it, but obviously i didnt.
basically, phone was on 2.2.2 so i downgraded to 10a 2.2 so i could root. ran z4root, installed custom recovery and then flashed milk_os's fixed kernel onto it.
kept showing "android.process.acore has stopped working" errors on screen, and i thought i could just upgrade back to 2.2.2 without breaking the kernel.
couldn't find a download of the latest firmware (but have since then) so i used pc suite 4 to update.
phone is back in 2.2.2 but root is gone and kernel is back how it was before.
tl;dr what i want to know is the difference between a rom and a kernel, and if it is possible to update the OS without changing the kernel, or root on 2.2 and then update to 2.2.2 without removing root so i can then install the milk_os kernel.
i have a copy of the latest update 2.2.2 from my provider which i can install with recovery if it will stop it overwriting kernel and/or removing root.
alternatively, cm7 is a 2.3.3 rom, is it worth just downgrading, rooting and flashing that? i assume that wont break my root
sorry for noobness, i just want to play angry birds without lag and im a compulsive fiddler/breaker.
PS also, if i go to 2.3 gingerbread am i correct in thinking my class2 microsd card will not work anymore on account of app2sd or whatever?
can someone please just tell me the best option for me, i have tried to google and read myself to find an answer but new to the scene and some things seem to be taken as understood and i don't get them at all.
thanks
terrycurls said:
hey
so i bought an optimus one this week and have already noticed the touch lag and stuff.
was always gonna root it, and have done jailbreaking on ipt/iphones but i know nothing about the android equivalent apart from what i have googled since then.
have read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901247 and a lot of other stuff and i thought i got it, but obviously i didnt.
basically, phone was on 2.2.2 so i downgraded to 10a 2.2 so i could root. ran z4root, installed custom recovery and then flashed milk_os's fixed kernel onto it.
kept showing "android.process.acore has stopped working" errors on screen, and i thought i could just upgrade back to 2.2.2 without breaking the kernel.
couldn't find a download of the latest firmware (but have since then) so i used pc suite 4 to update.
phone is back in 2.2.2 but root is gone and kernel is back how it was before.
tl;dr what i want to know is the difference between a rom and a kernel, and if it is possible to update the OS without changing the kernel, or root on 2.2 and then update to 2.2.2 without removing root so i can then install the milk_os kernel.
i have a copy of the latest update 2.2.2 from my provider which i can install with recovery if it will stop it overwriting kernel and/or removing root.
alternatively, cm7 is a 2.3.3 rom, is it worth just downgrading, rooting and flashing that? i assume that wont break my root
sorry for noobness, i just want to play angry birds without lag and im a compulsive fiddler/breaker.
PS also, if i go to 2.3 gingerbread am i correct in thinking my class2 microsd card will not work anymore on account of app2sd or whatever?
can someone please just tell me the best option for me, i have tried to google and read myself to find an answer but new to the scene and some things seem to be taken as understood and i don't get them at all.
thanks
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a. kernal =/= rom
kernel is something that works beneth the operating system.. its like this
YOU -> Interface -> Operating System (ROM/Android/Linux/JVM) -> Kernel -> Hardware
and back.
I also assume LG's updater flashes both the rom and the kernel. so in simple terms, use Custom Rom to flash a new rom (void/CM7/etc) and use it. There is no trick way of the stuff ur explaining to happen.
b. Android 2.2.2 doesn't do jack ****. downgrade to 2.2 then upgrade to CM7 or whatever. class 2 sd cards SHOULD have a random unmount error. i think void might have fixed it; check plz. flashing cm7 should fix everything u explained, but don't expect much from the ROM; its in dev. FYI touchscreen fix is included in cm7
c. custom roms, including cm7 has root built in.
d. conclusion
i. use cm7 route -> flash custom recovery -> flash CM7 (tricky, be careful) -> touchscreen profit!
ii. use froyo rom route -> flash custom recovery -> flash rom of ur choice (void, megatron) -> flash touchscreen kernel -> reboot -> profit
e. press thanks if ur thankful. i would like some thanks lulz
cheers
There is a Kernel you can flash that helps fix the bug
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=929941
thanks!!!
awesome, thanks heaps for that.
just one more thing, i assume the custom roms like cm7 and megatron/void all have root built in? or does the custom recovery do something to stop the root being removed when you reflash
once you root the phone, no matter what custom rom you use, it will still be "un-rooted".
Only when you use the kdz updater to put back original firmware, phone is no longer rooted.
thanks
awesome, thanks for that
Hi guys, thanks to the great tuturuals i've succesfully rooted my device But i have a question. Im still new to the hole android and rooting, so please bear with me.
After i flashed my XWKE7 kernel with the CF-Root-SGS2_XW_XEU_KE7-v4.0-CWM4 kernel, i followed the tururial to get rid of the yellow triangle. I flashed origial kernel back on my device (I9100XWKE7_Nernel), however my device is still rooted... So why should i follow the rest of the tuturial to flash the cf_kernel with CWM?
Isnt it better/more stable to keep running it with the original kernel? The root is still active, so why should i flash the rooted one back with CWM?
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really nobody?
The (for me important) difference are these:
1. While the phone is not booted yet, you can still access superuser through adb. This is important if you screw something up and the device is in a boot loop.
2. You have ClockworkModRecovery, where you can take backups, install updates from sdcard etc.
I don't think the original kernel is more stable, because the custom kernel is based on the original.
Hi,
I am trying to root a second T959 phone, my wife's, but am not having much luck. It is currently running Froyo 2.2 w/ KB5.
I tried using AIO Toolbox to root, but that did not work. The first problem I encountered is that it complained that 'verification failed' when I tried to reinstall package.
I searched through the forums, and found that I have recovery 3e. Noticed that on the recovery menu too. So I did what this thread indicated:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833423&highlight=root+3e
Ran the install.bat, and it did its work. I was still not able to apply the update.zip, but I was able to run 'SuperOneClick' to root the phone, or I thought. SuperOneClick reports that I have rooted the phone, but none of the apps think so. So right now, I am still stuck, with a phone that I cannot root.
I found this other thread talking about using ODIN to flash in a CWM instead of using recovery. I am a bit hesitant about this, as I am worried about flashing anything at this point without a backup.
I realize that I could ODIN to stock and I would be able to root and upgrade ROMs without problems, but I would really like to backup using Titanium before doing so.
Maybe I missed something somewhere, but is there a way that I can root this phone on the current fw?
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Ok, found this thread with further searching, and it solved my problem.
Phone rooted and upgraded to JB! Woohoo!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925400
thank you for posting where you found how to root. helped me alot i was running kb5 and now have it rooted and can access CWM. My question to you is did you just download and install the rom? im still on kb5 and am rooted and looking for any OS upgrade GB at least but dont have access to a pc all the time. Do i have to have one or are there any roms that i can flash from my rooted stock froyo?
shizno said:
thank you for posting where you found how to root. helped me alot i was running kb5 and now have it rooted and can access CWM. My question to you is did you just download and install the rom? im still on kb5 and am rooted and looking for any OS upgrade GB at least but dont have access to a pc all the time. Do i have to have one or are there any roms that i can flash from my rooted stock froyo?
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You don't need a computer to flash a ROM. Find a ROM you like, I recommend a JB ROM as they are supported, anything prior will not be. Download the ROM zip and gapps zip if required. Use a root file app, I use root browser, and move the zips from
sdcard/download to sdcard. Boot to recovery, wipe cache, advanced>wipe dalvik cache, wipe data/factory reset, install zip from SD, install ROM then install gapps, reboot and profit!
*you might have to flash the ROM more than once as it has to update recoveries and partitions.
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ty for your reply it was very helpful. i got impatient and flashed a ram before i saw it and everything went perfect. But i do appreciate not only the reply but the steps as well. i am now running iczen with subzero on my vibrant and its the most beautiful thing ive ever seen. lol. i dont even recognize my phone anymore and it feels like i just got a 800 dollar phone for free. i have even recommended every person i know with an android phone to join the site as well as read all steps carefully. thank you again sorry for the long post but i have just been so thrilled about the results i have got.
Hello almighty XDA peoples.
I watched the video, I have lurked here for months. I read everything I could on my phone, but I feel like my dilemma is slightly different. If not I would be glad to rectify it.
I purchased an unlocked gt-i9100 in the UK. I now use a Tmobile sim in the US.
After a lot of reading, I rooted my phone using ODIN and CF-Root-SGS2_XX_OXA_LQ5-v5.6-CWM5 kernel.
I installed titanium backup, and used it. I put in ROM manager.
I decided I wanted to put a custom ROM on, but I read that a full wipe was necessary so I went into clockworkmod recovery. I followed all the instructions.
Now I can't boot into OS. I can get into both clockwordmod and download mode, but my computer wont recognize my phone so I can't put a zip file onto my sd card. (probably should have done that first huh)
All I want is a normal working phone. I will leave rooting to the professionals.
It was previously running 4.0.4 xxlq6.
Cynikalrealist said:
Hello almighty XDA peoples.
I watched the video, I have lurked here for months. I read everything I could on my phone, but I feel like my dilemma is slightly different. If not I would be glad to rectify it.
I purchased an unlocked gt-i9100 in the UK. I now use a Tmobile sim in the US.
After a lot of reading, I rooted my phone using ODIN and CF-Root-SGS2_XX_OXA_LQ5-v5.6-CWM5 kernel.
I installed titanium backup, and used it. I put in ROM manager.
I decided I wanted to put a custom ROM on, but I read that a full wipe was necessary so I went into clockworkmod recovery. I followed all the instructions.
Now I can't boot into OS. I can get into both clockwordmod and download mode, but my computer wont recognize my phone so I can't put a zip file onto my sd card. (probably should have done that first huh)
All I want is a normal working phone. I will leave rooting to the professionals.
It was previously running 4.0.4 xxlq6.
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Ouch.
Rather dont wipe with the Samsung 4.0.4 kernel they had the brickbug...
You can try reinstall the drivers on the PC for the phone and also make sure KIES is not running then try download mode again else
try take the sd card out of the phone and put it in the pc and copy the ROM on to the SD card that way then flash with CWM.
A SD card reader is cheaper then fixing the phone if you don't already have one....
I can still access download mode and CWM though. Is that a sign of life? I went a bought a micro sd card and have put the rom onto it, which hopefully I can access through CWM. WIll update soon.
Cynikalrealist said:
I can still access download mode and CWM though. Is that a sign of life? I went a bought a micro sd card and have put the rom onto it, which hopefully I can access through CWM. WIll update soon.
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Having read the thread about 4.0.4 being susceptible to bricking, I'm now wondering what to do.
I bought a microSD card and put the Resurrection remix zip on it. I can access that though CWM and it's allowing me to update. WOuld it be better to try to downgrade to gingerbread or an early ICS, or have I passed the point where my phone should be bricking? Thanks so much in advance.
Cynikalrealist said:
I can still access download mode and CWM though. Is that a sign of life? I went a bought a micro sd card and have put the rom onto it, which hopefully I can access through CWM. WIll update soon.
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Well firstly why did you use Rom Manager? Its not properley compatible with I9100 and can lead to issues like you have if you mess about and try to flash kernel through it.
If you can still access download mode simply flash stock via ODIN and then flash custom kernel like Siyah (version depends on rom version) to gain root, cwm etc.
Alternatively first flash Siyah (.tar version) via ODIN then flash your custom rom.
Cynikalrealist said:
Having read the thread about 4.0.4 being susceptible to bricking, I'm now wondering what to do.
I bought a microSD card and put the Resurrection remix zip on it. I can access that though CWM and it's allowing me to update. WOuld it be better to try to downgrade to gingerbread or an early ICS, or have I passed the point where my phone should be bricking? Thanks so much in advance.
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if you can access download/recovery your device is not bricked. Just do as I said above and flash kernel or rom via ODIN.
I guess sometimes reading doesn't equals learning.
Wait a sec, I already knew that. Reading whole threads intead of OP-only equals learning.
Sent from the little guy
I am looking for some help bc of all the roms out there I am really confused. Ihad a droid X before this and flashed several roms without a problem. Here is when I get lost:
Right now I am back on stock I605VRAMC3.
I use adam outliers root method to get rooted with super user acess.
This gives me TWRP not CWM.
If I use TWRP to flash a rom I end up with a bricked phone.
I would like to use a CM11 4.4 rom or something similar. When I watch the video on galaxynote2root.com the user uses CWM and if I use that on my phone it turns into a brick even after rooting. What step am I missing? I see some roms are touchwiz based. I'm not familiar with what touchwiz is or how to install ot before flashing roms or if I even need it for CM11. Anyone on the same build as me that has flashed several roms I would greatly appreciate any info so I can start to enjoy some of these roms and decide which one I like. Thanks.
Sorry, I haven't done this stuff to know exactly where the issue is, but I will assume you're more likely to get the answer in the development section since it's all about themes, roms, rom flashing, rooting etc. If not there, then the trouble shooting section. Hope that helps. (assuming you're still looking)
You can flash Philz recovery in twrp & switch to it. Then you can flash CM11.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2552655
You can use casual to root and unlock bootloader.... And then install cwm via rom manager apk... Hope this solves your concern
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How is TWRP bricking your phone? I rooted with Outler's method and have had no problems with TWRP. You've mentioned that CWM has bricked your phone too. If that's the case, how were able to flash anything at all? As for TouchWiz, it's not anything you install. There are two basic types of ROMS for the N2. TouchWiz based, which have more of the Samsung apps along with the ROM customizations, and AOSP (Android Open Source Project). AOSP is more like stock Android, but with custom features. CM11 is an AOSP ROM. Here are the steps I took when I initially rooted:
Installed Samsung drivers to my laptop
Made sure Java was up to date
D/L Outler's Casual
Put phone in USB Debugging Mode
Attached phone
Ran Casual
Rooted phone (at this point I believe I had to select between CWM or TWRP)
There you have it. If you missed any of these steps, that could be the problem. Another issue might be that you're trying to use TWRP and CWM simultaneously
I'm assuming you are not wiping(factory reset. I do it three times) prior to your install. If you're not then your trying to install a rom on top of a rom and bam...boot loop.
nikhil.kdhand said:
You can use casual to root and unlock bootloader.... And then install cwm via rom manager apk... Hope this solves your concern
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+1 for this... when i tried to flash CM11 using TWRP I ended up in a bootloop.. restored my backup, downloaded rom manager apk from google play and used that to install CWM... then in CWM did a backup, wipe everything, and flashed CM11 + gapps and everything works without a hitch
one more note... my CWM backup was hanging on generating the MD5 sum, so i changed the encryption method away from the default... takes up more space on the ext-sd, but it works.