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I think source was released for the i9000's (not sure) 2.3.3 and if that is the case, I thought we'd start seeing work on 2.3.3 kernals with mods like BLN etc brought to the Vibrant.
Are some required ingredients still missing to do that kind of work, are we still waiting on something to get released before that work starts, or maybe the roms have work required before they'll start on the kernal. I'm not impatiently asking for the work to be done at all, I'm curious if the pieces are available to devs yet so that they can work on it.
Thanks for any input if you know what's going on. If you don't know then, well, go ahead an do what you do best.
From what I've been hearing from ttabbal, it seems that Samsung changed the way to gpu loads up by using the bootloader.
What this means is that, without a vibrant gb specific bootloader update (not and sbl.bin, but a boot.bin), then we will only have software rendering in everything graphical, and now viewable recovery screen.
And also, it's kernel, not kernal.
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Very informative amigo, thanks. So the rom will have those gpu issues and now a lot of the graphics stuff makes sense. It's funn that using 2.3 is in many? ways a step back in optimization right now instead of the step forward we hoped for like the nexus S #wishfulthinking
I still wonder if we have the capability yet to implement BLN, I enjoy having that and I guess CM7 has kernEls with something comparable so I could always go that route and specially since it sounds like CM7 has been smoothed out a lot.
I'm actually running CM7 right now and it's pretty smooth. I don't think I'll be going back to 2.2 on this phone unless something huge is offered.
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This is more of a general suggestion to those making the TB GB roms and adding the kernel to them or thinking about it..
Since it would appear reading through the posts and trying out the kernel for myself, I have found that the current GB kernel just gives my phone fits and it appears that other's have the same issue. I know it works for some, wish mine did. But can we get or keep the GB Roms separate from the kernel for a bit?
My phone runs GB fine without the kernel, and it sounds like it runs fine for others as well, since the kernel appears to add issues, it makes it hard to try out Roms that have the kernel included.
Its just a suggestion and at least at some point down the road I (or we) could try the kernel(s) as it matures more. And for those that the kernel works on, they can use it..
Thanks!
If your talking about random reboots just let it throw a few, every time I change a GB kernel I get a few, then after that it's totally fine.
Me too. Mine usually reboots a few times right after I install and then just works.
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I don't quite get what you're saying. Every rom has a kernel. It's basically what allows the software to communicate with the hardware. You can't take the kernel out of a rom or you don't have a complete functional operating system.
You need to remember that the leak was a test version, kind of like a cyanogenmod nightly. So things are going to be broken. They will fix them over time, especially as new leaks emerge.
In the meantime, if you are having problems, just go back to froyo for now. It's fast and fully functional. Gingerbread will be unleashed with ALL of it's greatness soon enough. Then we'll be anxiously awaiting ice cream sandwich
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I don't quite get what you're saying. Every rom has a kernel. It's basically what allows the software to communicate with the hardware. You can't take the kernel out of a rom or you don't have a complete functional operating system.
You need to remember that the leak was a test version, kind of like a cyanogenmod nightly. So things are going to be broken. They will fix them over time, especially as new leaks emerge.
In the meantime, if you are having problems, just go back to froyo for now. It's fast and fully functional. Gingerbread will be unleashed with ALL of it's greatness soon enough. Then we'll be anxiously awaiting ice cream sandwich
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He means including the modified kernel in the ROMs, and rather having users flash the modified version optionally. I think it is a valid point, and the kernel is something that is unrelated to the official release of Gingerbread. New kernels will come and the current ones are being worked on. What you may want to try is going into console and using speedtweak.sh to up the voltage if you are having reboot problems.
I know it gets hard to answer every question with a meaningless philosophical argument invalidating the question itself, but then again the forum has a minimum post count.
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He means including the modified kernel in the ROMs, and rather having users flash the modified version optionally. I think it is a valid point, and the kernel is something that is unrelated to the official release of Gingerbread.
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Exactly, I have no problem running the default kernel that comes with GB Gingerjane 1.2 Rom as their is another kernel to possibly fix camera issues and they are separate downloads. Once I load that kernel I start having all kinds of problems, I restore my backup and all is good. I have seen some posts that others run into a similar issue. I thought it would just be good to keep them separate right now if possible. Its possible that some of the other GB Roms would work too, but I have the same issue with those and they include the new kernel as well for camera fix. So I have assume (I know bad word) that the common issue with mine and possibly others just could be that kernel for whatever reason.
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He means including the modified kernel in the ROMs, and rather having users flash the modified version optionally. I think it is a valid point, and the kernel is something that is unrelated to the official release of Gingerbread. New kernels will come and the current ones are being worked on. What you may want to try is going into console and using speedtweak.sh to up the voltage if you are having reboot problems.
I know it gets hard to answer every question with a meaningless philosophical argument invalidating the question itself, but then again the forum has a minimum post count.
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"Meaningless philosophical argument"? I really don't see where you get that from, but whatever...
Also, a low post count doesn't mean you're a noob, just not as active at xda. This isn't the only forum site on the Internet.
I just saw something on twitter, jcase was posting the stock gb kernel in his thread, so there you go...
Edit: it's posted, happy flashing...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1082001
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It's in the lightning rom thread too.
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sgtguthrie said:
I just saw something on twitter, jcase was posting the stock gb kernel in his thread, so there you go...
Edit: it's posted, happy flashing...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1082001
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It's in the lightning rom thread too.
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Thanks.. that works too.
First of all I would like to apologize if you have heard these questions a thousand times before, but I have done a fair amount of reading and haven't gotten enough concrete answers to be confident enough to continue.
I just got up the courage to root my Fascinate after over a year of having it by following droidstyle's excellent guide. It was very painless and worked first shot, so no worries there. Now I'm at the point of what to do next... I have already frozen the bloatware and looked into some 'root-friendly' apps but I'm not sure where to go from here. I think I've decided I want to get the most out of this thing as I'm not due for an upgrade for (what seems like) a long time. I'm under the impression that installing a good ICS rom is the way to go but I just have a few noob questions before I continue.
1) From what I have been reading Glitched AOKP ICS is the best rom to use currently on the Fascinate, correct? Also quick question, regarding the link to download it... is the current version the build 34 one or the milestone 5 one at the top?
2) Rooting my phone initially didn't erase any of my apps or data. What will installing an ICS rom erase, if anything? I will make backups of course, but I'm just wondering what to expect. Will the 'bloatware' apps still be there or will installing ICS install new system apps?
3) What market apps should I consider 'must haves' to tweak stuff? I already bought setcpu but haven't invested in anything else yet.
4) I plan to follow section 4 of droidstyle's guide but need clarification... even though I have rooted stock 2.3, I should still follow all steps right?
Thank you for listening to my noob questions and thanks to anyone who can offer advice. I have been building and working on computers for years but this cell phone hacking stuff is all new to me (obviously).
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First of all I would like to apologize if you have heard these questions a thousand times before, but I have done a fair amount of reading and haven't gotten enough concrete answers to be confident enough to continue.
I just got up the courage to root my Fascinate after over a year of having it by following droidstyle's excellent guide. It was very painless and worked first shot, so no worries there. Now I'm at the point of what to do next... I have already frozen the bloatware and looked into some 'root-friendly' apps but I'm not sure where to go from here. I think I've decided I want to get the most out of this thing as I'm not due for an upgrade for (what seems like) a long time. I'm under the impression that installing a good ICS rom is the way to go but I just have a few noob questions before I continue.
1) From what I have been reading Glitched AOKP ICS is the best rom to use currently on the Fascinate, correct? Also quick question, regarding the link to download it... is the current version the build 34 one or the milestone 5 one at the top?
2) Rooting my phone initially didn't erase any of my apps or data. What will installing an ICS rom erase, if anything? I will make backups of course, but I'm just wondering what to expect. Will the 'bloatware' apps still be there or will installing ICS install new system apps?
3) What market apps should I consider 'must haves' to tweak stuff? I already bought setcpu but haven't invested in anything else yet.
4) I plan to follow section 4 of droidstyle's guide but need clarification... even though I have rooted stock 2.3, I should still follow all steps right?
Thank you for listening to my noob questions and thanks to anyone who can offer advice. I have been building and working on computers for years but this cell phone hacking stuff is all new to me (obviously).
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1) M5 is newest. Get glitched build off of the exynos server.
2) Complete wipe. A desktop equivalent would be formatting your hard drive with Windows Vista installed and doing a fresh install of windows 7.
Backup all data and contacts locally or on the cloud. Do NOT use Verizon to backup your contact data. Use Google or a local backup instead.
No bloatware will be present since custom roms do not come from the carrier.
3) NSTools. Maybe Root Explorer or wi-fi tether for google
4) Just follow the guide. Rooting doesn't have much to do with recovery and intalling ics and such.
Not to knock ICS, because I love AOKP, but you could also consider working your way there over time. I had a lot of fun playing with different Touchwiz ROMs like SC3 and TSM Res. You may even find one along the way that you want to stick with for a while. At the very least, you'll learn to get where a complete data wipe doesn't even slow you down.
There's so much good stuff still available for this phone. My phone is sheer perfections right now, but I still have plans to try out GeeWiz and MIUI.
Everyone knows the current destination is Glitched AOKP, but the fun is in the journey.
I agree. I would download everything rom,kernel, and app you can find for the phone between here and rootzwiki, just in case links go dead. Tsm res and awesome sauce are two very good roms that I had a ton of fun with. They are more forgiving to the new user as far as making mistakes goes. Couple of things to know before you continue are that you can use the three finger method to get into recovery on touchwiz roms but not the ics roms(must enter recovery through power off menu). You also cant just flash back and forth from touchwiz roms and cm7 or ics roms, as you have to follow certain steps
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Well I was planning on jumping right into ICS as it looks amazing and I don't think I want to wait... however I wouldn't be opposed to the idea of trying different roms later on down the road. Is it going to be a pain to go backwards from ICS, or just flash like usual? Also, to those that have tried most of the 'good' roms, what would you consider your top 3 non-ICS?
Also on the subject of backing up my apps... I have been using Mybackup as it seems the most simplistic to use and reliable. Will my apps be exactly as they were when I backed them up (after switching to ICS) or is it just better to re-download what I need and configure them again?
I hate to spam some more questions but I figure since I already am... just a few more...
I haven't really messed with Setcpu that much, but is it bad to have it at 100/1000 or should I keep the max lower than that? And last one... what's the best wifi tether to use so Verizon won't send their goons after me? Is the USB tether from clockwork mod any good?
Thanks to all of you for your input. I think I'll be attempting to flash to ICS tomorrow night and hopefully all goes well.
You can go from touchwiz roms to isc roms by flashing but you need to do a lot more using the computer to go backwards. It will make more sense once you have a better understanding. Use titanium backup to backup your apps. If you really dont have any then just redownload them. If you are on the touchwiz roms you can use setcpu, but for ics roms you are going to be using an app called nstools or from control (built into settings section of rom). Again, more of this will make sense later down the road that is why I figured it would be better to start on a from like tsm Res or awesome sauslce
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Well I'm still on the fence here on what to do. I really want to run ICS but with all the little glitches I've read about I think maybe I'll try some of the better GB roms first... I think TSM Res looks top for me with the features, but I might try more than just 1. I've heard not to restore data backups when going ICS... does this apply to GB roms as well? Should I also switch the radio or is what I have the same as the GB one? Thanks
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Well I'm still on the fence here on what to do. I really want to run ICS but with all the little glitches I've read about I think maybe I'll try some of the better GB roms first... I think TSM Res looks top for me with the features, but I might try more than just 1. I've heard not to restore data backups when going ICS... does this apply to GB roms as well? Should I also switch the radio or is what I have the same as the GB one? Thanks
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AOKP milestone 5. You WILL thank me for it. Make sure its Steve's glitchy (the kernel of course) build.
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AOKP milestone 5. You WILL thank me for it. Make sure its Steve's glitchy (the kernel of course) build.
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You don't like the one they just released a few days ago?
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You don't like the one they just released a few days ago?
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That is a nightly and has a minor bug where apps on SD card force close. No biggie for more experienced users who know its a nightly and can deal. Nightlies are bleeding edge releases and as such can contain a bug or two. Milestones are stable releases to be used as a reliable daily driver if one is needed (some do). I recommend the m5 release since it is a milestone and you are new to this. I also want to see you have the best experience possible.
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I'm in a similar spot. I put CM7 on my wife's phone a while ago, but she has downloaded so much crap on it it's running like garbage and crashing.
Does the AOKP M5 have any bugs I should be aware of? As long as it's working well and everything is working (WiFi, Camera, MMS, etc), she'll be fine with it as a daily driver.
Two other questions I have.
Where can I get the correct glitchy Kernel?
Do I just need to download the ROM and kernel, wipe data/cache, then flash the ROM then kernel, then gapps (in that order) in Clockwork Recovery? Anything else?
She really likes the ICS stuff I've been showing her on my Rezound, especially the speech to text typing.
Thanks for your feedback.
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Just to make sure my i's are dotted and my t's are crossed--
Build for Verizon Fascinate:
http://forum.aokp.co/page/releases/_/milestone-5-r20
fascinatemtd Samsung Fascinate
Glitch Kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459475
Are those right?
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Should I update radios as well? (Assuming yes since going to AOKP from CM7). Which ones should I do? Again, is this a simple flash in CWR? What's the install sequence?
Thanks.
EtherBoo said:
I'm in a similar spot. I put CM7 on my wife's phone a while ago, but she has downloaded so much crap on it it's running like garbage and crashing.
Does the AOKP M5 have any bugs I should be aware of? As long as it's working well and everything is working (WiFi, Camera, MMS, etc), she'll be fine with it as a daily driver.
Two other questions I have.
Where can I get the correct glitchy Kernel?
Do I just need to download the ROM and kernel, wipe data/cache, then flash the ROM then kernel, then gapps (in that order) in Clockwork Recovery? Anything else?
She really likes the ICS stuff I've been showing her on my Rezound, especially the speech to text typing.
Thanks for your feedback.
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Just to make sure my i's are dotted and my t's are crossed--
Build for Verizon Fascinate:
http://forum.aokp.co/page/releases/_/milestone-5-r20
fascinatemtd Samsung Fascinate
Glitch Kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459475
Are those right?
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Should I update radios as well? (Assuming yes since going to AOKP from CM7). Which ones should I do? Again, is this a simple flash in CWR? What's the install sequence?
Thanks.
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Get the Milestone 5 Glitched build found HERE
It includes the Glitch kernel, so no need to flash separately, and also has a few extra cherry picks thrown in. This is a Milestone build, so no real bugs, should run smooth as silk.
I'm not sure of the recommended radio for fascinate on ICS.
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Get the Milestone 5 Glitched build found HERE
It includes the Glitch kernel, so no need to flash separately, and also has a few extra cherry picks thrown in. This is a Milestone build, so no real bugs, should run smooth as silk.
I'm not sure of the recommended radio for fascinate on ICS.
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Might sound like a cheesy question, but what radios are you running?
Thanks for your help.
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Get the Milestone 5 Glitched build found HERE
It includes the Glitch kernel, so no need to flash separately, and also has a few extra cherry picks thrown in. This is a Milestone build, so no real bugs, should run smooth as silk.
I'm not sure of the recommended radio for fascinate on ICS.
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QFT.
Get the Glitched build as it has fixes, extra available RAM, and much more not available in the AOKP official build.
Wifi, cam, and MMS all work fine. I can't honestly think of anything not working off the top of my head. NovaLauncher (Regular is free, Prime is $4 and well worth it for gestures) is recommended at this point since Apex has gotten a little slow.
Radio is recommended to be EH03 though I think ec09 and anything newer than eh03 work fine. I am running EH03 and no complaints.
I think I remember reading something about torch not working in ICS... is that the type of app that turns on the LED? Believe it or not I use that a lot and it would be a pain if it didn't work when I switch.
Also, is there any way to check what radio you're currently using before flashing? Tried looking that up but couldn't find it
Ah yes...torch doesn't work but you can use the tiny flashlight app to turn on the flash and achieve the same functionality.
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Ah yes...torch doesn't work but you can use the tiny flashlight app to turn on the flash and achieve the same functionality.
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The Tiny Flashlight + LED app? That's actually what I'm using now and if that works then I'm all set... I thought when people said 'torch' they just meant any app that turns on the LED
I flashed and ran into 1 problem. I had to flash Team Hacksungs Build 2 ROM first. Flashing glitched put me in an endless boot. Then I couldn't boot to recovery. I really was flipping out.
I had to Odin a new recovery in, wipe, then flash Team Hacksungs Build 2 ROM. For some reason, it booted into AOKP (?) then. I went back to recovery, wiped, reflashed AOKP and got it working.
I haven't searched yet, but anyone know where I can change the boot screen? It's really not a "wife friendly" boot screen.
As I understand it, torch refers to the built in flashlight feature in aokp called torch. Tiny flashlight plus the widget give similar functionality.
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*begin rant* I give up. I'm tired of flashing different roms everytime just to have a stable device. I've tried all the ics roms for our device, but all seem to have their different issues to deal with. I'm now going to stick to rooted stock gb, for I feel that it meets my needs ,though its slow as hell. Imma wait for the official ics update, hopefully that is stable enough with no issues. The leaks have terrible battery life.
On another note, pun intended, if the whole T-Mobile modem situation doesnt work out, looks like imma sell this bad boy. I love the size and the screen, but I value stability. Maybe I'll wait for cm9 to come out alongside the official kernel. If that doesn't help, bye bye g note.
Anyone else feel like this? Imma try out saurom in the mean time, tho I'm in love with ics.
Dueces.
*end of rant.
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Saurom on dag's kernel is the only rom I will ever flash until we get access to the kernel
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I felt the same way until I tried flapjaxx base ics. Its very stable compared to the others I've tried.
I really think it is an app causing your issues, or the way you are restoring them. The latest ICS leak is rock solid for me, not a single FC after weeks of use, and insane battery life. Off the charger for 14 hours and at 68% right now.
Try going to a solid no frill ROM (might I suggest the one by Flappjaxx). Set the CPU to use the FJ settings. Then just try a basic setup for a while. Don't go crazy with the apps, just configure mail and whatnot, see how everything goes for a day or two.
Do yourself a favor and down load this rom, i have been using for about 2weeks and its more stable than GB.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1669170
Flashing aint for everyone. So, if you can't take it then leave, I guess. I don't know what you're whining about. I have had several fast, stable ROMs on my Note. I am currently using Flapjaxxx IMM. (By the way, the link above me is for a rip off of Flapjaxxx ROM so yes, it works.) As already stated, your issues may very well be your own cause. Depending on how you flash and restore your data you may be messing it up yourself. One last thing. You have no right to feel so entitled. These ROMs, and XDA as a whole, is experimental and FREE. So stop whining.
Before giving up try FlapJaxx, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664980
I agree with the others. Try flashing Flapjaxx's ROM and installing your apps again manually instead of using Tibu. Most likely something app related, because most of the roms are stable as hell for most people.
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My problem isn't exactly the roms; its the idea that I need to flash in order to have a stable/fast device. I've been lurking here since the old winmo days. First device was a T-mobile mda, and now i'm here with the note. I'm very grateful for the community, for obvious reasons. I'm getting old lol, and no time to keep flashing and experimenting. I tried the hyfer, clean install n everything... touchwiz kept crashing. I tried flapp's rom, kept fc'ing whenever i used cut/copy/paste. numerous other small issues. its the little things. I'm not complaining. I'm just deciding to stick to stock lol. So far my flash counter is up to 16. I keep odin'ing back to stock.
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My problem isn't exactly the roms; its the idea that I need to flash in order to have a stable/fast device. I've been lurking here since the old winmo days. First device was a T-mobile mda, and now i'm here with the note. I'm very grateful for the community, for obvious reasons. I'm getting old lol, and no time to keep flashing and experimenting. I tried the hyfer, clean install n everything... touchwiz kept crashing. I tried flapp's rom, kept fc'ing whenever i used cut/copy/paste. numerous other small issues. its the little things. I'm not complaining. I'm just deciding to stick to stock lol. So far my flash counter is up to 16. I keep odin'ing back to stock.
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Which version of Flap's did you try? It was updated like a week and a half ago, and cut copy and paste work just fine.
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It's unfortunate that you are having these issues. I'm running the latest unofficial CM9 and it's solid with everything I use (don't use spen) . I haven't had an fc yet.
I'm at 31% after 15 hours off charger. 2 hours of screen time and 40 minutes of phone time as well as some steaming music through my Bluetooth, headset.
I will say that I'm very anxious for Samsung to release the official ICS so we can get an overclock kernel.
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I've tried most of the roms with varying degrees of success....I am currently running the hybrid 6.2 and it had been fast and stable! I was running an earlier version and did an upgrade but ended up doing a full wipe....I reinstalled all of my apps manually and it really works great now.... Just my two cents worth....lol
Thanks guys for the response. Actually, I think something might be wrong with the device. Even after odin'ing back to stock, i'm still greeted by fc's. Perhaps i'm using the wrong odin file? Like i just flashed saurom, and still problems galore. i'll keep you updated.
Thank you all.
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Thanks guys for the response. Actually, I think something might be wrong with the device. Even after odin'ing back to stock, i'm still greeted by fc's. Perhaps i'm using the wrong odin file? Like i just flashed saurom, and still problems galore. i'll keep you updated.
Thank you all.
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Like someone said, flashing isn't for everyone. If you are having problems now you didn't have on stock rom before, obviously the way you flash isn't right. Especially when others are okay on problems you have on the same rom.
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I too have decided to stay with Gingrrbread and have not even been tempted to try any of the ICS roms. I am a grown up and I have the patience to wait for the official ICS and the kernel source to be released. I never get caught up in leaks cause they are a hassle. I am on Gingerbread and everything works as it should as opposed to a buggy ICS rom thats been rigged to sorta work. If anyone uses a rom that has more than two things that simply don't work they are wasting their time and I know of at least 10 things that don't work on any of the ICS roms we have available. To each his own though. I am sure the roms will be excellent as soon as the official ICS and source are released so I don't care to wait. I have been using the same rom for three months and I doubt any of the ICS roms can touch it in any way. Try Solaris Prime A New Hope rom you won't be disappointed.
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I too have decided to stay with Gingrrbread and have not even been tempted to try any of the ICS roms. I am a grown up and I have the patience to wait for the official ICS and the kernel source to be released. I never get caught up in leaks cause they are a hassle. I am on Gingerbread and everything works as it should as opposed to a buggy ICS rom thats been rigged to sorta work. If anyone uses a rom that has more than two things that simply don't work they are wasting their time and I know of at least 10 things that don't work on any of the ICS roms we have available. To each his own though. I am sure the roms will be excellent as soon as the official ICS and source are released so I don't care to wait. I have been using the same rom for three months and I doubt any of the ICS roms can touch it in any way. Try Solaris Prime A New Hope rom you won't be disappointed.
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I don't think there's that much broke with the ICS roms. On Flapjaxx's ROM the only thing broke afaik is MHL out, which I don't use, so to me, the ROM is fully functional. Plus, since it's ICS, I also have the premium suite and SVoice, which is even more capability than any GB ROM. Don't get me wrong, I loved Solaris Prime when I used to run it, but once ICS leaked, there was no turning back. I guess the only other thing I can't do is overclock, which doesn't matter to me anyways, as ICS is already smoother than Solaris Prime was overclocked.
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Not to be rude but if you can't appreciate the work thats done by the community then you shouldn't be here. Every dev provides disclaimers (which most people don't bother to read I guess), and they do so because they don't want to deal with people whining. I do a lot of free work for people and there is nothing more disheartening than someone moaning and whining that the free help/work I'd done was not enough, when in reality the same amount of effort would've cost them $200+ dollars without the personal touches.
Blame Samsung, they haven't officially released ICS for this device. You come in here and start badmouthing ICS roms, which were produced by the effort of devs, who ask us for our input, then have to wade through the innumerable useless posts and weed out the genuine feedback they need to improve the user experience for us.
/end rant.
I wouldn't really rant about it on XDA, but from what I read in the various ROM threads the OP isn't far off. The ROMs are generally good, EXCEPT for X, Y, Z, oh this doesn't work, and there's a bug there, etc.
I often see a lot of this is due to people trying silly DPI numbers, and that's just self-inflicted problems... Unfortunately a lot of that gets attributed to ROM problems when it should not be, and in fact at least one ROM thread has very clear if you're NOT running 320, don't report bugs.
Personally, stock rooted GB is working great and I'll keep using it until I see an ICS ROM that doesn't have as many caveats as I see in various threads. Some of these might be feature-over-function problems (adding too much random stuff into a ROM) but I'd say a lot of it is due to kernel and ICS Source. Hopefully the latter is less a problem as it was a month ago or so, but the kernel of course is still outstanding.
I do my fair share of tinkering on secondary devices and tablets, but my Note is my primary phone, so I don't mess with it.
Let's face it, there are a lot of people who don't want to tinker, they just want to put a ROM on their phone. That's the XDA atmosphere of today. IMO those people should not flash random ROMs on their phone.
Flapjaxx ICS rom is excellent .
Guaranteed my stock build was worse. And battery was horrible on stock. Rooted or not that bloated 2.3.6 stock rom wasted my time.
If ya don't like bugs ....wipe data /factory reset and put the phone down.
They "all " have bugs.
At least our batteries don't melt like an isheep phone ..LOL ....g
You should try objections ucle2 #2 RC1 its really fast and stable. I know what you mean it gets old having to be flashing every other day but what can you do. Its the only way to keep up with the software.
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Try one of flapps roms, I've been in all of them and they are all great...
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I'm a little late to the game. I've been running AOSP GB for a while and just decided to flash an ICS ROM yesterday. The kernel I have is imoseyen's leankernel.
I flashed http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1879151 Liquid Smooth ICS.
It seems to be working fine but i have one qualm about it. The touch screen doesn't seem to flow as naturally as it did when I had GB. It seems to be more sticky. Is anyone else having trouble with this?
Also Navigation seems to be dumbed down as it doesn't say street names anymore. Not a big deal but I'm confused at how the UI of specific apps has changed in the upgrade when it is still the same app.
My other question is in regards to this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2122886 ICY-S by MaceksMod
I'm thinking about moving over to this ROM if the stickiness isn't resolved.
However, What is the kernel used for this ROM? I'm pretty sure it's AOSP but I kept seeing mentions of Sense & Team BAMF (who uses Sense).
Glad to see there are still devs for this phone!
You cant use a gingerbread kernel with an ics ROM. Just use the kernel that comes with the ROM.
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Not to say anything bad about MaceksMod's mod but it is very new, may need time to mature. If you like Liquid's ICS try Twisted Umbrella, its essentially the same thing with more updates/fixes whatever. And yes the screen scrolling is fixed on that one.
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Thanks for the replies.
I will check out Twisted Umbrella.
Where can I find an ICS kernel for the Thunderbolt? What type of file is the kernel in the ROM package? Is it typically the boot.img? Does every ROM downloaded have a kernel that is attached to it?
There aren't any custom kernels yet,I do believe twisted has been working on one for his Rom. Kernels are usually baked into the Roms
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Thanks for the replies.
I will check out Twisted Umbrella.
Where can I find an ICS kernel for the Thunderbolt? What type of file is the kernel in the ROM package? Is it typically the boot.img? Does every ROM downloaded have a kernel that is attached to it?
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There aren't any aftermarket ICS kernels for the thunderbolt yet because we don't have the source code to build them yet. Yes the boot.img does contain the kernel and all Roms have to have a kernel or they will not boot.
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MaceksMod's
My other question is in regards to this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2122886 ICY-S by MaceksMod
I'm thinking about moving over to this ROM if the stickiness isn't resolved.
However, What is the kernel used for this ROM? I'm pretty sure it's AOSP but I kept seeing mentions of Sense & Team BAMF (who uses Sense).
Glad to see there are still devs for this phone![/QUOTE]
I flashed 8.5 yesterday and all is supposed to be working. I am currently having issue with the WIFI connecting or staying connected if it connects.
I am not sure if it is r/t to the MaceksMod's rom. I am sure there will be many as soon as the OTA is widly distributed.
That ROM is essentially sense since it is based off of the leak. If you want to found some really goof and stable ICS Roms then I suggest going to infectedrom.com. Santods sense Roms are the best and you won't be disappointed.
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Thank you guys for the responses.
I've been using TwistedUmbrella's ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2056575 for a little over 24 hours now. I like it but random apps keep on crashing and rebooting the phone.
Some examples include: making a phone call, ruzzle, facebook, gmail, quickpic, etc. I'm not sure if these are app specific but some of the freeze-reboots happen when executing a command such as deleting pictures and entering a username/password.
I don't really know where to start troubleshooting this or if this is just a ROM instability. My install procedure was wipe cache, wipe dalvik, flash the kernel that was supplied in the thread (baseKernel-184Mhz_01-14-2013_22.55.zip), flash the ROM, and reboot. Earlier today, I decided to wipe the cache and dalvik again to see what would happen. The ROM does seem to run a little better but I am still experiencing the random reboots.
Have you guys experienced this? Is there a fix to this?
stfleck said:
I flashed 8.5 yesterday and all is supposed to be working. I am currently having issue with the WIFI connecting or staying connected if it connects.
I am not sure if it is r/t to the MaceksMod's rom. I am sure there will be many as soon as the OTA is widly distributed.
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I used MacekMod's ROM for a little while but found the lack of customization to be unappealing. I like using the power widgets on my phone (not sure if it's the correct term but that bar of toggle icons that appears when you slide down the android menu) and was sad that it was not available.
zilla. said:
Thank you guys for the responses.
I've been using TwistedUmbrella's ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2056575 for a little over 24 hours now. I like it but random apps keep on crashing and rebooting the phone.
Some examples include: making a phone call, ruzzle, facebook, gmail, quickpic, etc. I'm not sure if these are app specific but some of the freeze-reboots happen when executing a command such as deleting pictures and entering a username/password.
I don't really know where to start troubleshooting this or if this is just a ROM instability. My install procedure was wipe cache, wipe dalvik, flash the kernel that was supplied in the thread (baseKernel-184Mhz_01-14-2013_22.55.zip), flash the ROM, and reboot. Earlier today, I decided to wipe the cache and dalvik again to see what would happen. The ROM does seem to run a little better but I am still experiencing the random reboots.
Have you guys experienced this? Is there a fix to this?
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I have heard of this and I have heard santod suggest that the ramdisk may need some tweaking. Probably won't get fixed anytime soon but what do I know.
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disconnecktie said:
I have heard of this and I have heard santod suggest that the ramdisk may need some tweaking. Probably won't get fixed anytime soon but what do I know.
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I guess I can hold out til a fix is released. It is annoying but I have to say it boots up pretty fast.
Yea most aosp Roms will because they have such a small footprint. Try unsense on infectedrom.com. Its a heavily desensed rom that is so close to aosp you won't be able to tell a difference and it has a working camcorder too.
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Maceksmod icy-s
I am running this mod and it seems very smooth... took 2 minutes for my SMS to backup using SMS Backup and Restore, taking it about 18 hours to restore them though (ugh... gotta be a better way to move SMS messages from one ROM to another!!!)... anyway, what I am wondering is... it looks like the icy-s camera app is going to work fine for front facing camera and recording video, but how do you make Google+ use that camera instead of the stock one in order to use google hangout???
:crying::crying::crying:
Update?
I am currently running Beta 8.5 RC4... It is running pretty well except radio doesn't seem to be a solid as the old .19, and the camera is flakey with google hangouts. I see there is a 9.5 now... can I do a dirty flash to update? Does it have an updated radio??
Thanks