I have seen the Motorola Lapdock being used with some other phones (Sony Xperia?) and even with stuff like an Xbox 360 or PS3, just wondering if anyone knows if the Rezound would work using the MHL HDMI adapter. If it would charge the phone, and the keyboard and touchpad worked, that would be great, but I am primarily just wanting to use it as a portable display during my 12 hour shift at work where I spend most of my time in a parked car.
If this doesn't work, does anyone know of an alternative? Possibly a thin portable monitor that can be run on a battery or plugged into a car? Again, my primary goal is just to output to a bigger screen for video and the occasional websurfing or game, I can always control everything via the phone or like a bluetooth keyboard or something.
vphreeze said:
I have seen the Motorola Lapdock being used with some other phones (Sony Xperia?) and even with stuff like an Xbox 360 or PS3, just wondering if anyone knows if the Rezound would work using the MHL HDMI adapter. If it would charge the phone, and the keyboard and touchpad worked, that would be great, but I am primarily just wanting to use it as a portable display during my 12 hour shift at work where I spend most of my time in a parked car.
If this doesn't work, does anyone know of an alternative? Possibly a thin portable monitor that can be run on a battery or plugged into a car? Again, my primary goal is just to output to a bigger screen for video and the occasional websurfing or game, I can always control everything via the phone or like a bluetooth keyboard or something.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not sure about the Moto dock. I would imagine that you could get an LCD that is made for putting in headrests and whatnot for custom car applications that has an HDMI input and you would be set.
http://www.lilliputuk.com/
http://www.lilliputuk.com/index.php?page=869GL
I would look ^here^
Hmm this is giving me ideas... I was fist thinking of making my rezound dockable with my desktop monitor when ubuntu for android came out, but now im think of making a complete lapdock type thing... interesting.
Keep in mind the charging limitation of the MHL adapter. Because it needs the data pins, they can't be shorted out and in turn the phone will only draw 500mA to charge with, there's a number of complaints about batteries dying while using the adapter as a result.
mjones73 said:
Keep in mind the charging limitation of the MHL adapter. Because it needs the data pins, they can't be shorted out and in turn the phone will only draw 500mA to charge with, there's a number of complaints about batteries dying while using the adapter as a result.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ahh yes, the beauty of dual extended batteries.....
Related
Hey XDA. I recently upgraded my phone to a Motorola Photon 4g.
My problem is this:
The phone has a usb input and micro hdmi input.
I bring my phone with me, almost everywhere; however, because I spent a lot of my time at the gym (24 hr fitness), my battery gets low and I cannot keep the phone on long enough (unless airplane mode) without it dying.
My gym has the Nike + Ipod hookups which are mainly dedicated for charging iphones and ipods and also used for video/audio support.
I was wondering, is there an adapter for a male iphone/ipod to hdmi or micro hdmi which I can use to charge my Photon at the gym (even if I cannot get audio/video? I think I have seen some male pin ipod/ipone pin adapters for regular hdmi, and I figured I could then get a regular hdmi to to micro hdmi adapater to see if that would be an adequate work-around?
I'd love to at the "very least" charge my phone at the gym, but my main concern is compatibility issues and/or if the use of multiple adapters may cause voltage or charge/related issues (e.g.: overheating? or future problems down the line?) A while back, I saw a project for a serial to usb DIY project that may work?: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8245
Can anyone offer some advice? Last thing I want to do is brick my phone.
Even a bluetooth or wifi male ipod/iphone pinned adaper to my phone might be cool also? Any advice?
Thank you so much.
Joefarar.
joefarar said:
Hey XDA. I recently upgraded my phone to a Motorola Photon 4g.
My problem is this:
The phone has a usb input and micro hdmi input.
I bring my phone with me, almost everywhere; however, because I spent a lot of my time at the gym (24 hr fitness), my battery gets low and I cannot keep the phone on long enough (unless airplane mode) without it dying.
My gym has the Nike + Ipod hookups which are mainly dedicated for charging iphones and ipods and also used for video/audio support.
I was wondering, is there an adapter for a male iphone/ipod to hdmi or micro hdmi which I can use to charge my Photon at the gym (even if I cannot get audio/video? I think I have seen some male pin ipod/ipone pin adapters for regular hdmi, and I figured I could then get a regular hdmi to to micro hdmi adapater to see if that would be an adequate work-around?
I'd love to at the "very least" charge my phone at the gym, but my main concern is compatibility issues and/or if the use of multiple adapters may cause voltage or charge/related issues (e.g.: overheating? or future problems down the line?) A while back, I saw a project for a serial to usb DIY project that may work?: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8245
Can anyone offer some advice? Last thing I want to do is brick my phone.
Even a bluetooth or wifi male ipod/iphone pinned adaper to my phone might be cool also? Any advice?
Thank you so much.
Joefarar.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hmm....I could be wrong but thought one would need an MHL port to charge via HDMI.
I can't offer you a solution to the ipod adapter issue. However, instead of spending money and time trying to modify something to work, might just get a portable battery charger. I have the Splash Intense one and it charges my phone fairly quickly and can do it about 3 times before it needs recharged. Plus, I can charge 2 devices at once if I want to. The other nice thing about this is it can be used anywhere and I even tether it to my phone and put both in my pocket. This way my phone is always on me and charges at the same time.
If this is something you are interested in: http://www.energizerpowerpacks.com/us/products/xp4001/ or just search Amazon for different units.
Sorry if this info doesn't help you.
When using the MHL adapter, is the whole screen mirrored or is it just some apps like gallery/youtube?
Also, does Cyanogenmod (AOSP) work with it?
yousefak said:
When using the MHL adapter, is the whole screen mirrored or is it just some apps like gallery/youtube?
Also, does Cyanogenmod (AOSP) work with it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is full mirroring of the whole screen great huh? I found that out here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXotbjcB6xA
And as far as I know Cyanogenmod does not have it yet but i'm really sure it will soon.
Yup, it does full mirroring, so you can play games as well
The bad part is that i got the ikross mhl adapter and it seems to be defective or smth, cause it keeps disconnecting for no apparent reason (even if i don't touch it).
My question is which mhl adapter is worth buying? I'd really like one i could use while moving the phone. Should i just go with the original one from htc? but that's a bit expensive. Any suggestions?
I have the T-Mobile brand and have no issues with it. It's been carried around in my laptop bag for a while, still works perfect. $20 from the store and around $27 shipped if you order from their site
Sent from my PG86100 using xda premium
Which adapter charges as well?
All of them should, that's their design. Mhl plugs in to the phone, charger and hdmi plug in to the mhl. I know that atleast the T-Mobile version does, all should though. It mirrors everything, and charges my phone just fine at the same time.
Sent from my PG86100 using xda premium
Got my MHL for $15.73 shipped from Monoprice. Been using it everyday since the day I got it to stream netflix and other TV/movie sites from my 3D or off one of the flyers in my house. It's probably been in use for 60+ days straight for about 5-6 hours each day, maybe more... I don't have cable or satellite I'm actually thinking of ordering another one maybe two just in case this one breaks or gets lost.
The monoprice adapter works very well. I've had no connection problems - and I get a great picture depending on the app. Diceplayer works particularly well for putting out HD video.
The only possible drawback is that the monoprice adapter limits you to USB charging, not AC charging - when you use it. So if you're streaming while outputting to the TV, you'll still lose a small amount of phone battery.
On another thread specifically on the MHL adapter charging topic - no one confirmed whether the other chargers were registering AC charging or not. That might be the one advantage in getting another brand.
P0ll0L0c0 said:
The monoprice adapter works very well. I've had no connection problems - and I get a great picture depending on the app. Diceplayer works particularly well for putting out HD video.
The only possible drawback is that the monoprice adapter limits you to USB charging, not AC charging - when you use it. So if you're streaming while outputting to the TV, you'll still lose a small amount of phone battery.
On another thread specifically on the MHL adapter charging topic - no one confirmed whether the other chargers were registering AC charging or not. That might be the one advantage in getting another brand.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I will test my T-Mobile MHL adaptor tonight to verify that it is ac charging. I do know that I gain battery life when streaming though, so I assume it is
Sent from my PG86100 using xda premium
stanglifemike said:
I will test my T-Mobile MHL adaptor tonight to verify that it is ac charging. I do know that I gain battery life when streaming though, so I assume it is
Sent from my PG86100 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks - please do. People in the other thread assumed their phone was charging whether streaming or not - but couldn't confirm with testing values. I thought my phone was charging as well - until I installed a battery monitor and checked. After using many - Battery Monitor Widget appears to work the best on our phone.
If you could test your MHL adapter while streaming, and report back the charging rate reported - that would be a great help. Please report what radios you have on, I usually leave all of them on for testing purposes.
I'm very interested to see if any of these MHL adapters will charge while streaming, as well. I plan on this being my next accessory for the 3D but I don't want to get one that charges with half power.
Forgot to test out the other night. I'll try an get to it tonight before going to bed. Oh, I use Battery Monitor Widget Pro. Saw some one mentioning that app earlier, so you'll be able to relate fully. For radios, Wifi and Mobile Network are never turned off on my phone. That's how I'll be testing as I never have Bluetooth on when steaming movies, and only have GPS on when I'm using Navigation or an app that needs GPS. Obviously won't need GPS to stream a movie in my house...
Sent from my PG86100 using xda premium
got Monoprice MHL to charge last night while streaming
Took quite a bit of tinkering, but finally got positive charging (albeit not much) while streaming Battle of Midway from Netflix and the Wire from HBO GO last night. Using WTSB 1.9 rom and Monoprice MHL adapter.
What I had to do was:
-Airplane Mode;
-Turn on Wifi;
-Turn off account sync;
-Taskmanager to kill off everything but netflix;
-Use SetCPU to underclock to (648ishMHZ for netflix) or (900ishMHZ for HBO GO);
-Covedesign app to turn off button backlights;
-Covedesign app to go to backlight "blink" and disabled blink (like jumping rope) just at the right time for the backlight to stay off (may have to do this several times)(though this makes it damn hard to interact with phone unless you have bt mouse or keyboard - if not, may just want to turn brightness down as far as you can get);
My setup:
Evo3d streaming via wifi from iSpot 4G Clear device, outputting via MHL to optoma pk201 pico projector, with stock charger+usb, and audio via MHL/HDMI to pico projector.
Comment:
Netflix ROCKS (wonder why no stock landscape UI though)!!! Great streaming, no hiccups; HBO GO, on the other hand, (while AMAZING selection) constantly drops out to "Audio only stream, connect to stronger network or wifi for video", stutters, ... all kinds of crap and this is on a pretty regular 6mbps 4G Clear iSpot!
---------- Post added at 01:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:55 PM ----------
BTW, anyone know of an app that lets you monitor your total mA usage live?
like a graphing app or anything?
There used to be a great one for WM6 that showed, for example 400milliamps with screen on, and 200milliamps with screen off and graphed it over time.
I keep getting pissed off with these phones; can anyone help me (I've been searching for years and can't find answers) mind you, I'm coming from the x51v wm6.5.3; PalmTX; Sammy Omnia...
-Why can't we turn off the backlight to the screen?
-Why can't we MANUALLY rotate to landscape or portrait? (I know you can manually engage or disengage the AUTOmatic rotation feature)
-(maybe this does exist) Why can't we get readings on how many mA we are using?
It just seems like the x51v from 2002 was so much more advanced and customizable, seems like we are re-creating the wheel over and over again.
Sorry for the rant.
Battery Monitor Widget, as mentioned in the post previous to yours...
P0ll0L0c0 said:
Thanks - please do. People in the other thread assumed their phone was charging whether streaming or not - but couldn't confirm with testing values. I thought my phone was charging as well - until I installed a battery monitor and checked. After using many - Battery Monitor Widget appears to work the best on our phone.
If you could test your MHL adapter while streaming, and report back the charging rate reported - that would be a great help. Please report what radios you have on, I usually leave all of them on for testing purposes.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My MHL adapter mirrors everything and charges directly from the wall.
LiquidSolstice said:
My MHL adapter mirrors everything and charges directly from the wall.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ummm... Thanks? You provided exactly zero new information.
P0ll0L0c0 said:
Ummm... Thanks? You provided exactly zero new information.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Except...I did. For this person:
bagelicious said:
I'm very interested to see if any of these MHL adapters will charge while streaming, as well. I plan on this being my next accessory for the 3D but I don't want to get one that charges with half power.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
MHL Adapters are required to charge while being used, in fact, they only function if the charger is plugged in. That's part the spec, and I'd like to think I know quite a bit about MHL since I've done work and testing on the product for the company that created it, which is Silicon Image : http://www.siliconimage.com/products/family.aspx?id=10 . As for the quoted person, the adapter is not supposed to the the problem (unless you're getting a cheap knockoff one) but the power output of your charger can be an issue as well. The original Evo 3D charger outputs the proper power for the adapter to charge your phone properly. If you're using a cheap generic brand eBay MicroSD power cord, it will most likely not charge at the same output.
I've been using and testing these adapters before you ever knew about them. Is that enough information for you?
Went to a friends after work an just got home a little while ago. Battery is at 15% so instead of putting in a freshly charged battery, I'm going to test my T-Mobile MHL Adaptor for those interested. Hope to post results tonight, definitely going to test tonight though even if results aren't posted until the morning.
Sent from my PG86100 using xda premium
Sent from my PG86100 using xda premium
@LiquidSolstice What the heck's a "cheap generic brand eBay MicroSD power cord"? Did you mean microUSB? So much for your expertise... Dunno what you're going on about, but the MHL adapters could very well affect the current fed to the phone since it's literally going THRU them. Have you tested every single MHL adapter? Even if there's a spec they should conform to, it doesn't mean they all do, just like all chargers out there are not 1A chargers with properly shorted pins to deliver 1A.
The concerns you quoted and dismissed were valid, no need for that attitude. The USB cable used shouldn't really matter in the vast majority of cases, resistances introduced by even the thinnest retractable cables are pretty much negligible... I've actually tested that too. It really comes down to the charger, and possibly the MHL adapter that's in between. If mike hasn't posted his results with the T-Mo adapter tomorrow I'll test mine as I have the same one. Can't speak for the MP adapter as I don't have it, MP usually sells quality cables & adapters tho.
Impulses said:
@LiquidSolstice What the heck's a "cheap generic brand eBay MicroSD power cord"? Did you mean microUSB? So much for your expertise... Dunno what you're going on about, but the MHL adapters could very well affect the current fed to the phone since it's literally going THRU them. Have you tested every single MHL adapter? Even if there's a spec they should conform to, it doesn't mean they all do, just like all chargers out there are not 1A chargers with properly shorted pins to deliver 1A.
The concerns you quoted were valid, no need for that attitude. If mike hasn't posted his results with the T-Mo adapter tomorrow I'll test mine as I have the same one. Can't speak for the MP adapter as I don't have it, MP usually sells quality cables & adapters tho.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So much for my expertise? Tell you what. Remove the MHL adapter out of the question. Try to charge the phone using a Samsung Moment power cord. It's all MicroUSB as you say.
It won't properly charge. Just because a power cord has a plug on one end a MicroUSB on another doesn't mean they're all equal. The point that I'm responding to is that unless you're buying a knockoff MHL adapter (or a really, really cheap one) the spec specifies that they all charge from both USB and AC, and that there is enough power to properly charge the device.
Hey guys,
Just wondering if there is a way to get the hdmi mirroring to work without the power cable plugged in.
A little about my phone: hboot 1.4, rooted. Im using Deck's sense ROM (i know it's old, but it is really stable) and using Ziggy kernel. Overclocked to 1.8ghz.
Yes and no. A tv supporting mhl will power your phone and just requires the mhl cable which is usb to hdmi. However, the mhl adapter, which is different than the mhl cable, does require power. What the difference is is the adapter is converting the signal so the tv sees it as hdmi. Because the adapter is doing the work, it needs a power source. Very few tvs support mhl natively. I think it just came out this year in consumer tvs. And when you do get a tv supporting mhl natively, you may have to ditch the adapter and use the normal mhl cable, but I'm not for sure. I'm sure you could still use the adapter, but it would probably still require power.
Sent from my PG86100 using XDA App
what he said
vt_hokie2008 said:
what he said
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
___________
gk1984 said:
Yes and no. A tv supporting mhl will power your phone and just requires the mhl cable which is usb to hdmi. However, the mhl adapter, which is different than the mhl cable, does require power. What the difference is is the adapter is converting the signal so the tv sees it as hdmi. Because the adapter is doing the work, it needs a power source. Very few tvs support mhl natively. I think it just came out this year in consumer tvs. And when you do get a tv supporting mhl natively, you may have to ditch the adapter and use the normal mhl cable, but I'm not for sure. I'm sure you could still use the adapter, but it would probably still require power.
Sent from my PG86100 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
wow, thank you so much! That cleared up a lot.
I'm running into this problem, I had the 3D hooked up to the TV via mhl adapter, and the power plugged in. I was streaming netflix (wifi) to the TV. After 2 hours, my battery went from 98% to 23%.... Any idea as to what gives? When it comes to mirroring, OG Evo was far superior.
Thanks
nubie said:
wow, thank you so much! That cleared up a lot.
I'm running into this problem, I had the 3D hooked up to the TV via mhl adapter, and the power plugged in. I was streaming netflix (wifi) to the TV. After 2 hours, my battery went from 98% to 23%.... Any idea as to what gives? When it comes to mirroring, OG Evo was far superior.
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think the power drain is from powering the mhl adapter. I'm not 100% sure of the amount but I think it's 5 volts you get through usb. Figure that's what the phone uses to charge. But now the adapter needs that power for the signal now too. So now you're splitting that 5 volts between the 2 devices. This wouldn't be such a big deal if the screen could be turned off the phone but that kills the mirroring. Because the screen is on, you're drawing mode power.
Another example of charging while using the phone. If I drive using Gps, Pandora, and leave the screen on, I may gain 1% battery increase in 30 minutes driving vs maybe 10% if the phone were just sitting there asleep. Both using Gps and mhl adapter involves the phone actually working, thus using power. The difference is the mhl adapter needs power too so a portion of the charge isn't going to the phone to begin with.
Sent from my PG86100 using XDA App
Picoprojector
Hello,
To use a pocket picroprojectors like the Microvision ShowWX+ HDMI on my galaxy note or S2 I need to power the converter. it's very bad iPhone can do video out without external power.
I guess the ship used inside this converter is the SiI9292 MHL-to-HDMI Bridge. I need to power it without power the phone (cut MHL VCC line on PCB ?)
The adapter is not expensive I want to check this... For me the power requirements of the cable is low, But if the phone require power to enable video out my hack is not possible
English is not my native language, so I'm sorry for mistakes.
Pascal
serveurperso said:
Hello,
To use a pocket picroprojectors like the Microvision ShowWX+ HDMI on my galaxy note or S2 I need to power the converter. it's very bad iPhone can do video out without external power.
I guess the ship used inside this converter is the SiI9292 MHL-to-HDMI Bridge. I need to power it without power the phone (cut MHL VCC line on PCB ?)
The adapter is not expensive I want to check this... For me the power requirements of the cable is low, But if the phone require power to enable video out my hack is not possible
English is not my native language, so I'm sorry for mistakes.
Pascal
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is there a question here?
And was there really a need to bump a 3 month old thread? And this is the Evo 3d section, not the Galaxy Note section.
HDMI out without Power IS Possible.
This is not a question this is search for solution, didn't notice the date (noob sorry). This thread is #1 referenced on google for :
mhl without power
hdmi without power
This is a generic MHL question, for all MHL phones.
I just realized a DIY tiny self powered MHL to HDMI adapter for my (showwx+ laser) picoprojector with PCB from a chinese adapter.
This could give some information to DIYer that want to make a self powered adapter for picoprojector.
The HDMI out work without charging the phone. I just unsoldered the VCC (red) wire from MHL side of adapter.
The hdmi bridge need 60mA on 5V (0,3 watt) and can work @ 3 - 3.3V. I used a very tiny LiPo (1 cell 200mA) to power it. Now it need a tiny charge and discharge controller. It work for >1 hour (deep discharge <3V can killl the small LiPo).
Pascal
Another, cheaper and easier, option is to use a portable battery. Preferrably one with an on-off switch so that it'll keep charging the adapter even when the phone is fully charged. The other variety will shut itself off when the phone itself is full.
I had bought a $10 portable battery from Newegg that I throw in my car for occasional use. When I use it for MHL when on the go - I use a retractable usb cable to connect it to the MHL adapter. The portability is pretty decent, since the battery itself is less than half the size of the phone.
My overall dream and desire
= Have a tablet WITH GPS, with a nice screen, that I can buy cheap that supports at least Honey Comb. I want it to look good in my car and do things for the car. Slacker radio/google music/GPS duties. It'd be cool to have it doing email, etc.. but not needed.
I own a samsung epic. I had it almost completely figured out and installed....but then we find out that if you place your phone in desk dock or car dock, it farks up the sound output and aside from physically modding the dock with new parts there's no way to fix it.
ENTER THE FLYER!! WOOHOO!! Solution is found! HTC FLYER + MHL adapter and I'm all set!
Beautiful screen, MHL adapter means only one wire is seen etc etc etc.
What's the problem?
The DAMN CHARGING SYSTEM. I've got a 2 amp car charger that EVERY android device sees as "AC" ...
HOWEVER when you plug in this 2 amp AC charger into the MHL adapter.... DUN DUN DUN, the Flyer only sees it as a USB CHARGER, thus meaning that if you're using the thing to play music and having the screen stay on (as I do) the tablet cannot charge faster then it drains!!! WTF.
So the solution now is that I have to have two wires sticking out at opposite ends and I wasted 30 bucks on a damn MHL adapter.
Why the FARK can't companies get their SH!T together and just make something that works. IF you're going to be charging through the MHL ADAPTER WHY ON EARTH would it limit you to the lower charge rate...say you have it plugged into the real AC adapter...I'd assume this means that while going through the MHL adapter IT STILL would show up as USB charging (again not enough to keep up!!)..
Farking Stupid companies drive me insane.
here's someone complaining about the same thing on a samsung... http://www.droidforums.net/forum/galaxy-nexus-accessories/196278-mhl-adapter-charging-issues.html
so farking stupid.
Because...............the designers never farkin believed anyone would frickin try to mount a frakin tablet permanently in a frickin car. And frickin for sure never thought anyone would farkin use the MHL in a frickin car. LOL
DigitalMD said:
Because...............the designers never farkin believed anyone would frickin try to mount a frakin tablet permanently in a frickin car. And frickin for sure never thought anyone would farkin use the MHL in a frickin car. LOL
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
haha, FINE.
However, if you take this tablet INSIDE and say you want to watch a netflix movie on your tv.
You do this
Oem charger >> MHL ADAPTER >> FLYER
So you're watching a netflix movie via hdmi with all your OEM branded stuff.
Guess what........it STILL doesn't charge fast enough. Will you make it through a 2 hour movie? Maybe... what if it's a 3 hour movie? Probably not.
How stupid does it get.
Here's the car charger I'm using.
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Vehi...Q9CA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1333722016&sr=8-1
What I really would like is a tablet OR PHONE
that has this:
- Horizontal docking option (like the evo 3d)
- Dock MUST include AUDIO out
- Dock must be able to charge at the AC rate, not the USB rate
- Real GPS inside
- Wifi
- Preferably be no less than a 4 inch screen
- When routing Audio through dock it must not be degraded to changed in ANY form (aka samsung epic dock)
That's all I ask for. is it really that hard to find this elusive product??
I don't know of any devices that have a dock that meets your needs. There are of course many devices that meet your needs minus the dock. Or you could buy a Ford car with Sync and sync your device to their system.
J3ff said:
haha, FINE.
However, if you take this tablet INSIDE and say you want to watch a netflix movie on your tv.
You do this
Oem charger >> MHL ADAPTER >> FLYER
So you're watching a netflix movie via hdmi with all your OEM branded stuff.
Guess what........it STILL doesn't charge fast enough. Will you make it through a 2 hour movie? Maybe... what if it's a 3 hour movie? Probably not.
How stupid does it get.
Here's the car charger I'm using.
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Vehi...Q9CA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1333722016&sr=8-1
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Um... OR we could use the PS3, the PC, or any of a million other devices to watch netflix instead of our tablet..
I mean really.. do you have ANY idea how easy it has been made to connect almost any computer in the world to a TV and stream netflix? I mean really it is ONE cable. In addition to that.. I can't even begin to name all the devices that people can use to stream netflix.. but, let me just give you a few.
1. TVs with it built in.
2. PS3
3. Xbox 360
4. Wii
5. netbooks
Before you go off about how "stupid" it is.. you should really ask yourself how many people are relying on a tablet as their all in one go to device for everything.. I would say those people are stupid.. The HTC flyer was never in a million years designed to be your all in one go to media device. it is a great device designed for casual use.
Snow_fox said:
Um... OR we could use the PS3, the PC, or any of a million other devices to watch netflix instead of our tablet..
I mean really.. do you have ANY idea how easy it has been made to connect almost any computer in the world to a TV and stream netflix? I mean really it is ONE cable. In addition to that.. I can't even begin to name all the devices that people can use to stream netflix.. but, let me just give you a few.
1. TVs with it built in.
2. PS3
3. Xbox 360
4. Wii
5. netbooks
Before you go off about how "stupid" it is.. you should really ask yourself how many people are relying on a tablet as their all in one go to device for everything.. I would say those people are stupid.. The HTC flyer was never in a million years designed to be your all in one go to media device. it is a great device designed for casual use.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok so we are now designing "multimedia tablets" to do less and less?
Your argument is pretty dumb mang.
Just because I have a full HTPC at my house doesn't mean that HTC should design a tablet, give it an HDMI out and then make it impossible to charge it (powering the device while losing battery charge is not "charging" while you're using it to do what they designed it to do.
Anyone tried to fit the Amaze 4G on a lapdock? Can't find any posts via search
Those Lapdocks (eg Atrix Lapdock) go on sale for ~$50, basically a display, keyboard, battery and trackpad.
Below is someone's hack for raspberry pi on the lapdock.... since amaze 4G has HDMI out, only thing to do is to see if we can get the cables to fit properly, and the USB functionality(keyboard+trackpad) to work, and the software
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/21/3105822/motorola-lapdock-hacked-raspberry-pi-rikomagic
So I did a bit of digging...
The Amaze uses a MHL connector (see wiki) which allows for access to HDMI and USB over one connector. The lapdocks seem to have two connectors to plug into the Motorola phones. It doesn't seem like a big issue to replace the cable from the lapdock with a MHL one that you could probably buy off ebay.
Double check which pin corresponds to which wires on the MHL and also on the USB and HDMI cable from the lapdock, cut the wires, re solder, heat shrink, close the lapdock back up....profit???
That's as far as I can tell regarding connecting the hardware the phone. I'm willing to bet that the HDMI will output directly to the screen fine without any software adjustment. But I'm unsure about the keyboard and trackpad.
Thoughts?
I'd be willing to give this a try if there's interest.
derpTastic said:
So I did a bit of digging...
The Amaze uses a MHL connector (see wiki) which allows for access to HDMI and USB over one connector. The lapdocks seem to have two connectors to plug into the Motorola phones. It doesn't seem like a big issue to replace the cable from the lapdock with a MHL one that you could probably buy off ebay.
Double check which pin corresponds to which wires on the MHL and also on the USB and HDMI cable from the lapdock, cut the wires, re solder, heat shrink, close the lapdock back up....profit???
That's as far as I can tell regarding connecting the hardware the phone. I'm willing to bet that the HDMI will output directly to the screen fine without any software adjustment. But I'm unsure about the keyboard and trackpad.
Thoughts?
I'd be willing to give this a try if there's interest.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
from looking at the raspberry pi and other stuff(laptop/wii connected to the hdmi port), you'll get a "mirrored" display... the keyboard/trackpad depends on the usb connection/driver/OTG Kernel, dunno about that
Youll need
Lapdock: $20-$60 (i'd suggest getting the atrix/bionic versions, not the motorola 500 one)
http://www.all4cellular.com/product/motorola-atrix-4g-laptop-dock-hdmi-upgrade-kit.html
http://slickdeals.net/f/5035746-Lapdock-ATRIX-4G-60-and-Droid-Bionic-90
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29994146&postcount=16
MHL connector for HDMI: $10-$35
Official http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Adaptor-Jetstream-Tablets-Package/dp/B005LSOPN4
Unofficial, may need USB cable for power http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=8675&seq=1&format=2
->I can't get any clear indication that the USB data from phone passes through to the USB connector on the MHL adapter
maybe some HDMI cables/connector (HDMI male from MHL connector to miniHDMI female on the lapdock)
I have a tablet and a netbook too, so don't think I'll be attempting this for now
the 35Whr battery(from googling), people say it can charge your phone a couple of times over(your phone's battery is 4Volts*2AmpHr = 8Whr)
I'll see if I can find a cheap one here in Canada.
It's a rather interesting concept.
It kinda reminds me of this.http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
Definitely interested in this, would be cool to have this setup.
Live and Die on this day....
went to a radioshack nearby, they didn't have it..
bascially, i would only get one if its around $20 (since you can charge phone with it, $20 for a large battery is worth it, though not for the laptop form factor)
The only docks I can get my hands on are $50+ from ebay. This idea is such a niche product...I'm trying to think of a time where this could be useful.
derpTastic said:
The only docks I can get my hands on are $50+ from ebay. This idea is such a niche product...I'm trying to think of a time where this could be useful.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
commute on a train/bus, could watch video on a larger screen while charging your battery
if we had the software to support it as well (like the ubuntu-phone posted earlier or webtop options), could compose email or edit code on the go...
Isn't that why we have laptops?
derpTastic said:
Isn't that why we have laptops?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if you want to spend more than $200, a laptop
if you want just one device that has everything loaded, and customizable(via the lapdock), maybe a netbook or this lapdock
i guess that's why the Atrix Lapdocks are selling at a discount... the manufacturers couldn't find a good way to advertise this expensive device (MSRP is $300 or so)
it's available for $40 on bensoutlet
http://slickdeals.net/f/5501414-AT-T-Motorola-11-6-Lapdock-40-FS
http://bensoutlet.com/products/lapdock-atrix
1% in stock left...
I got one, will play with it
We don't have hdmi
I took the dock section apart n tried to plug in my amaze to the built in hdmi but no go with netflix. I'll try something else and report back.
Living life in reverse....
chozyn said:
I took the dock section apart n tried to plug in my amaze to the built in hdmi but no go with netflix. I'll try something else and report back.
Living life in reverse....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
amandez said:
We don't have hdmi
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes we do, via the ExtMicro / MHL port
http://androidforums.com/htc-amaze-4g/500285-clearing-air-mhl-hdmi-adapters-amaze.html
I heard that the Amaze 4G is picky about which MHL cable it accepts, and the kernel/android build on it must support HDMI out
PHP: