Hey XDA. I recently upgraded my phone to a Motorola Photon 4g.
My problem is this:
The phone has a usb input and micro hdmi input.
I bring my phone with me, almost everywhere; however, because I spent a lot of my time at the gym (24 hr fitness), my battery gets low and I cannot keep the phone on long enough (unless airplane mode) without it dying.
My gym has the Nike + Ipod hookups which are mainly dedicated for charging iphones and ipods and also used for video/audio support.
I was wondering, is there an adapter for a male iphone/ipod to hdmi or micro hdmi which I can use to charge my Photon at the gym (even if I cannot get audio/video? I think I have seen some male pin ipod/ipone pin adapters for regular hdmi, and I figured I could then get a regular hdmi to to micro hdmi adapater to see if that would be an adequate work-around?
I'd love to at the "very least" charge my phone at the gym, but my main concern is compatibility issues and/or if the use of multiple adapters may cause voltage or charge/related issues (e.g.: overheating? or future problems down the line?) A while back, I saw a project for a serial to usb DIY project that may work?: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8245
Can anyone offer some advice? Last thing I want to do is brick my phone.
Even a bluetooth or wifi male ipod/iphone pinned adaper to my phone might be cool also? Any advice?
Thank you so much.
Joefarar.
joefarar said:
Hey XDA. I recently upgraded my phone to a Motorola Photon 4g.
My problem is this:
The phone has a usb input and micro hdmi input.
I bring my phone with me, almost everywhere; however, because I spent a lot of my time at the gym (24 hr fitness), my battery gets low and I cannot keep the phone on long enough (unless airplane mode) without it dying.
My gym has the Nike + Ipod hookups which are mainly dedicated for charging iphones and ipods and also used for video/audio support.
I was wondering, is there an adapter for a male iphone/ipod to hdmi or micro hdmi which I can use to charge my Photon at the gym (even if I cannot get audio/video? I think I have seen some male pin ipod/ipone pin adapters for regular hdmi, and I figured I could then get a regular hdmi to to micro hdmi adapater to see if that would be an adequate work-around?
I'd love to at the "very least" charge my phone at the gym, but my main concern is compatibility issues and/or if the use of multiple adapters may cause voltage or charge/related issues (e.g.: overheating? or future problems down the line?) A while back, I saw a project for a serial to usb DIY project that may work?: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8245
Can anyone offer some advice? Last thing I want to do is brick my phone.
Even a bluetooth or wifi male ipod/iphone pinned adaper to my phone might be cool also? Any advice?
Thank you so much.
Joefarar.
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Hmm....I could be wrong but thought one would need an MHL port to charge via HDMI.
I can't offer you a solution to the ipod adapter issue. However, instead of spending money and time trying to modify something to work, might just get a portable battery charger. I have the Splash Intense one and it charges my phone fairly quickly and can do it about 3 times before it needs recharged. Plus, I can charge 2 devices at once if I want to. The other nice thing about this is it can be used anywhere and I even tether it to my phone and put both in my pocket. This way my phone is always on me and charges at the same time.
If this is something you are interested in: http://www.energizerpowerpacks.com/us/products/xp4001/ or just search Amazon for different units.
Sorry if this info doesn't help you.
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UPDATE: Posted in wrong thread - re post in accessories section. Not trying to spam. Thank you.
Hey XDA. I recently upgraded my phone to a Motorola Photon 4g.
My problem is this:
The phone has a usb input and micro hdmi input.
I bring my phone with me, almost everywhere; however, because I spent a lot of my time at the gym (24 hr fitness), my battery gets low and I cannot keep the phone on long enough (unless airplane mode) without it dying.
My gym has the Nike + Ipod hookups which are mainly dedicated for charging iphones and ipods and also used for video/audio support.
I was wondering, is there an adapter for a male iphone/ipod to hdmi or micro hdmi which I can use to charge my Photon at the gym (even if I cannot get audio/video? I think I have seen some male pin ipod/ipone pin adapters for regular hdmi, and I figured I could then get a regular hdmi to to micro hdmi adapater to see if that would be an adequate work-around?
I'd love to at the "very least" charge my phone at the gym, but my main concern is compatibility issues and/or if the use of multiple adapters may cause voltage or charge/related issues (e.g.: overheating? or future problems down the line?) A while back, I saw a project for a serial to usb DIY project that may work?: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8245
Can anyone offer some advice? Last thing I want to do is brick my phone.
Even a bluetooth or wifi male ipod/iphone pinned adaper to my phone might be cool also? Any advice?
Thank you so much.
Joefarar.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1222
You can't charge your phone through the micro HDMI port, only through the micro USB port. Now there is no reason why you can't convert an ipod adapter back to USB but I'm not sure if they make anything like that. You'd probably have to build the cable yourself from multiple parts.
My overall dream and desire
= Have a tablet WITH GPS, with a nice screen, that I can buy cheap that supports at least Honey Comb. I want it to look good in my car and do things for the car. Slacker radio/google music/GPS duties. It'd be cool to have it doing email, etc.. but not needed.
I own a samsung epic. I had it almost completely figured out and installed....but then we find out that if you place your phone in desk dock or car dock, it farks up the sound output and aside from physically modding the dock with new parts there's no way to fix it.
ENTER THE FLYER!! WOOHOO!! Solution is found! HTC FLYER + MHL adapter and I'm all set!
Beautiful screen, MHL adapter means only one wire is seen etc etc etc.
What's the problem?
The DAMN CHARGING SYSTEM. I've got a 2 amp car charger that EVERY android device sees as "AC" ...
HOWEVER when you plug in this 2 amp AC charger into the MHL adapter.... DUN DUN DUN, the Flyer only sees it as a USB CHARGER, thus meaning that if you're using the thing to play music and having the screen stay on (as I do) the tablet cannot charge faster then it drains!!! WTF.
So the solution now is that I have to have two wires sticking out at opposite ends and I wasted 30 bucks on a damn MHL adapter.
Why the FARK can't companies get their SH!T together and just make something that works. IF you're going to be charging through the MHL ADAPTER WHY ON EARTH would it limit you to the lower charge rate...say you have it plugged into the real AC adapter...I'd assume this means that while going through the MHL adapter IT STILL would show up as USB charging (again not enough to keep up!!)..
Farking Stupid companies drive me insane.
here's someone complaining about the same thing on a samsung... http://www.droidforums.net/forum/galaxy-nexus-accessories/196278-mhl-adapter-charging-issues.html
so farking stupid.
Because...............the designers never farkin believed anyone would frickin try to mount a frakin tablet permanently in a frickin car. And frickin for sure never thought anyone would farkin use the MHL in a frickin car. LOL
DigitalMD said:
Because...............the designers never farkin believed anyone would frickin try to mount a frakin tablet permanently in a frickin car. And frickin for sure never thought anyone would farkin use the MHL in a frickin car. LOL
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haha, FINE.
However, if you take this tablet INSIDE and say you want to watch a netflix movie on your tv.
You do this
Oem charger >> MHL ADAPTER >> FLYER
So you're watching a netflix movie via hdmi with all your OEM branded stuff.
Guess what........it STILL doesn't charge fast enough. Will you make it through a 2 hour movie? Maybe... what if it's a 3 hour movie? Probably not.
How stupid does it get.
Here's the car charger I'm using.
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Vehi...Q9CA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1333722016&sr=8-1
What I really would like is a tablet OR PHONE
that has this:
- Horizontal docking option (like the evo 3d)
- Dock MUST include AUDIO out
- Dock must be able to charge at the AC rate, not the USB rate
- Real GPS inside
- Wifi
- Preferably be no less than a 4 inch screen
- When routing Audio through dock it must not be degraded to changed in ANY form (aka samsung epic dock)
That's all I ask for. is it really that hard to find this elusive product??
I don't know of any devices that have a dock that meets your needs. There are of course many devices that meet your needs minus the dock. Or you could buy a Ford car with Sync and sync your device to their system.
J3ff said:
haha, FINE.
However, if you take this tablet INSIDE and say you want to watch a netflix movie on your tv.
You do this
Oem charger >> MHL ADAPTER >> FLYER
So you're watching a netflix movie via hdmi with all your OEM branded stuff.
Guess what........it STILL doesn't charge fast enough. Will you make it through a 2 hour movie? Maybe... what if it's a 3 hour movie? Probably not.
How stupid does it get.
Here's the car charger I'm using.
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Vehi...Q9CA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1333722016&sr=8-1
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Um... OR we could use the PS3, the PC, or any of a million other devices to watch netflix instead of our tablet..
I mean really.. do you have ANY idea how easy it has been made to connect almost any computer in the world to a TV and stream netflix? I mean really it is ONE cable. In addition to that.. I can't even begin to name all the devices that people can use to stream netflix.. but, let me just give you a few.
1. TVs with it built in.
2. PS3
3. Xbox 360
4. Wii
5. netbooks
Before you go off about how "stupid" it is.. you should really ask yourself how many people are relying on a tablet as their all in one go to device for everything.. I would say those people are stupid.. The HTC flyer was never in a million years designed to be your all in one go to media device. it is a great device designed for casual use.
Snow_fox said:
Um... OR we could use the PS3, the PC, or any of a million other devices to watch netflix instead of our tablet..
I mean really.. do you have ANY idea how easy it has been made to connect almost any computer in the world to a TV and stream netflix? I mean really it is ONE cable. In addition to that.. I can't even begin to name all the devices that people can use to stream netflix.. but, let me just give you a few.
1. TVs with it built in.
2. PS3
3. Xbox 360
4. Wii
5. netbooks
Before you go off about how "stupid" it is.. you should really ask yourself how many people are relying on a tablet as their all in one go to device for everything.. I would say those people are stupid.. The HTC flyer was never in a million years designed to be your all in one go to media device. it is a great device designed for casual use.
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Ok so we are now designing "multimedia tablets" to do less and less?
Your argument is pretty dumb mang.
Just because I have a full HTPC at my house doesn't mean that HTC should design a tablet, give it an HDMI out and then make it impossible to charge it (powering the device while losing battery charge is not "charging" while you're using it to do what they designed it to do.
I have seen the Motorola Lapdock being used with some other phones (Sony Xperia?) and even with stuff like an Xbox 360 or PS3, just wondering if anyone knows if the Rezound would work using the MHL HDMI adapter. If it would charge the phone, and the keyboard and touchpad worked, that would be great, but I am primarily just wanting to use it as a portable display during my 12 hour shift at work where I spend most of my time in a parked car.
If this doesn't work, does anyone know of an alternative? Possibly a thin portable monitor that can be run on a battery or plugged into a car? Again, my primary goal is just to output to a bigger screen for video and the occasional websurfing or game, I can always control everything via the phone or like a bluetooth keyboard or something.
vphreeze said:
I have seen the Motorola Lapdock being used with some other phones (Sony Xperia?) and even with stuff like an Xbox 360 or PS3, just wondering if anyone knows if the Rezound would work using the MHL HDMI adapter. If it would charge the phone, and the keyboard and touchpad worked, that would be great, but I am primarily just wanting to use it as a portable display during my 12 hour shift at work where I spend most of my time in a parked car.
If this doesn't work, does anyone know of an alternative? Possibly a thin portable monitor that can be run on a battery or plugged into a car? Again, my primary goal is just to output to a bigger screen for video and the occasional websurfing or game, I can always control everything via the phone or like a bluetooth keyboard or something.
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Not sure about the Moto dock. I would imagine that you could get an LCD that is made for putting in headrests and whatnot for custom car applications that has an HDMI input and you would be set.
http://www.lilliputuk.com/
http://www.lilliputuk.com/index.php?page=869GL
I would look ^here^
Hmm this is giving me ideas... I was fist thinking of making my rezound dockable with my desktop monitor when ubuntu for android came out, but now im think of making a complete lapdock type thing... interesting.
Keep in mind the charging limitation of the MHL adapter. Because it needs the data pins, they can't be shorted out and in turn the phone will only draw 500mA to charge with, there's a number of complaints about batteries dying while using the adapter as a result.
mjones73 said:
Keep in mind the charging limitation of the MHL adapter. Because it needs the data pins, they can't be shorted out and in turn the phone will only draw 500mA to charge with, there's a number of complaints about batteries dying while using the adapter as a result.
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Ahh yes, the beauty of dual extended batteries.....
Anyone tried to fit the Amaze 4G on a lapdock? Can't find any posts via search
Those Lapdocks (eg Atrix Lapdock) go on sale for ~$50, basically a display, keyboard, battery and trackpad.
Below is someone's hack for raspberry pi on the lapdock.... since amaze 4G has HDMI out, only thing to do is to see if we can get the cables to fit properly, and the USB functionality(keyboard+trackpad) to work, and the software
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/21/3105822/motorola-lapdock-hacked-raspberry-pi-rikomagic
So I did a bit of digging...
The Amaze uses a MHL connector (see wiki) which allows for access to HDMI and USB over one connector. The lapdocks seem to have two connectors to plug into the Motorola phones. It doesn't seem like a big issue to replace the cable from the lapdock with a MHL one that you could probably buy off ebay.
Double check which pin corresponds to which wires on the MHL and also on the USB and HDMI cable from the lapdock, cut the wires, re solder, heat shrink, close the lapdock back up....profit???
That's as far as I can tell regarding connecting the hardware the phone. I'm willing to bet that the HDMI will output directly to the screen fine without any software adjustment. But I'm unsure about the keyboard and trackpad.
Thoughts?
I'd be willing to give this a try if there's interest.
derpTastic said:
So I did a bit of digging...
The Amaze uses a MHL connector (see wiki) which allows for access to HDMI and USB over one connector. The lapdocks seem to have two connectors to plug into the Motorola phones. It doesn't seem like a big issue to replace the cable from the lapdock with a MHL one that you could probably buy off ebay.
Double check which pin corresponds to which wires on the MHL and also on the USB and HDMI cable from the lapdock, cut the wires, re solder, heat shrink, close the lapdock back up....profit???
That's as far as I can tell regarding connecting the hardware the phone. I'm willing to bet that the HDMI will output directly to the screen fine without any software adjustment. But I'm unsure about the keyboard and trackpad.
Thoughts?
I'd be willing to give this a try if there's interest.
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from looking at the raspberry pi and other stuff(laptop/wii connected to the hdmi port), you'll get a "mirrored" display... the keyboard/trackpad depends on the usb connection/driver/OTG Kernel, dunno about that
Youll need
Lapdock: $20-$60 (i'd suggest getting the atrix/bionic versions, not the motorola 500 one)
http://www.all4cellular.com/product/motorola-atrix-4g-laptop-dock-hdmi-upgrade-kit.html
http://slickdeals.net/f/5035746-Lapdock-ATRIX-4G-60-and-Droid-Bionic-90
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29994146&postcount=16
MHL connector for HDMI: $10-$35
Official http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Adaptor-Jetstream-Tablets-Package/dp/B005LSOPN4
Unofficial, may need USB cable for power http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=8675&seq=1&format=2
->I can't get any clear indication that the USB data from phone passes through to the USB connector on the MHL adapter
maybe some HDMI cables/connector (HDMI male from MHL connector to miniHDMI female on the lapdock)
I have a tablet and a netbook too, so don't think I'll be attempting this for now
the 35Whr battery(from googling), people say it can charge your phone a couple of times over(your phone's battery is 4Volts*2AmpHr = 8Whr)
I'll see if I can find a cheap one here in Canada.
It's a rather interesting concept.
It kinda reminds me of this.http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
Definitely interested in this, would be cool to have this setup.
Live and Die on this day....
went to a radioshack nearby, they didn't have it..
bascially, i would only get one if its around $20 (since you can charge phone with it, $20 for a large battery is worth it, though not for the laptop form factor)
The only docks I can get my hands on are $50+ from ebay. This idea is such a niche product...I'm trying to think of a time where this could be useful.
derpTastic said:
The only docks I can get my hands on are $50+ from ebay. This idea is such a niche product...I'm trying to think of a time where this could be useful.
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commute on a train/bus, could watch video on a larger screen while charging your battery
if we had the software to support it as well (like the ubuntu-phone posted earlier or webtop options), could compose email or edit code on the go...
Isn't that why we have laptops?
derpTastic said:
Isn't that why we have laptops?
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if you want to spend more than $200, a laptop
if you want just one device that has everything loaded, and customizable(via the lapdock), maybe a netbook or this lapdock
i guess that's why the Atrix Lapdocks are selling at a discount... the manufacturers couldn't find a good way to advertise this expensive device (MSRP is $300 or so)
it's available for $40 on bensoutlet
http://slickdeals.net/f/5501414-AT-T-Motorola-11-6-Lapdock-40-FS
http://bensoutlet.com/products/lapdock-atrix
1% in stock left...
I got one, will play with it
We don't have hdmi
I took the dock section apart n tried to plug in my amaze to the built in hdmi but no go with netflix. I'll try something else and report back.
Living life in reverse....
chozyn said:
I took the dock section apart n tried to plug in my amaze to the built in hdmi but no go with netflix. I'll try something else and report back.
Living life in reverse....
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amandez said:
We don't have hdmi
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yes we do, via the ExtMicro / MHL port
http://androidforums.com/htc-amaze-4g/500285-clearing-air-mhl-hdmi-adapters-amaze.html
I heard that the Amaze 4G is picky about which MHL cable it accepts, and the kernel/android build on it must support HDMI out
PHP:
Just got it, but would like to watch movies on my TV. I have chromecast but i wanted a wired solution to eliminate any lag.
I know the phone has MHL 3.0, but I have a 5 year old Samsung non-smart TV.
which MHL cables can I use? My only requirement is that the MHL adapter should NOT need power. Basically looking for something like the iPhone HDMI/Lighting adapter, or the Samsung MHL 2.0 cables that didn't require power.
Thanks in advance.
Something like this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/LINDY-MHL-H...e=UTF8&qid=1445628106&sr=8-1&keywords=MHL+3.0
"Additional USB Micro-B female for charging & power"
In my experience, MHL requires power, I don't think the phone pumps out enough to power the HDMI without it. That might not be conceptually correct, but every lead I've ever tried will only work with power connected anyway.
somebloke said:
"Additional USB Micro-B female for charging & power"
In my experience, MHL requires power, I don't think the phone pumps out enough to power the HDMI without it. That might not be conceptually correct, but every lead I've ever tried will only work with power connected anyway.
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MHL 3.0 do not require external power, the port is there for compatibility with MHL 2.0 & 1.0 phones or if you want to charge the phone while using the adaptor.
This adaptor works fine without external power on my Z5C
Somebody gave me this .
MHL Micro USB to HDMI HD TV Adapter Cable Samsung Galaxy S3 S4 S5 Note 2 Tab 3 (from ebay)
needless to say, it doesn't work with my Z5c, it even says so in the description. Is this because the cable is not MHL 3?
Samsung uses a different number of pins I think.
Also, doesn't the receiving device have to support MHL?
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MHL 3.0 do not require external power, the port is there for compatibility with MHL 2.0 & 1.0 phones or if you want to charge the phone while using the adaptor.
This adaptor works fine without external power on my Z5C
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Good to hear MHL 3.0 doesn't require external power but it might be the power output on Z5c usb port is higher. Are you sure it doesn't has any problem because when I'm reading the customer reviews I found that.
"I'm usually a fan of Lindy products and have bought a lot in the past, but this adapter has a critical flaw and I'm appalled that they have decided to sell it anyway. When connected to either my Xperia Z1 or Z5 it creates so much interference with the mobile network signal that it the signal completely cuts out. Meaning I can still share the screen, but not stream any content. A quick look on Google confirmed that the adapter is the cause, and cheap knock-off active MHL adapters often do this."
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Good to hear MHL 3.0 doesn't require external power but it might be the power output on Z5c usb port is higher. Are you sure it doesn't has any problem because when I'm reading the customer reviews I found that.
"I'm usually a fan of Lindy products and have bought a lot in the past, but this adapter has a critical flaw and I'm appalled that they have decided to sell it anyway. When connected to either my Xperia Z1 or Z5 it creates so much interference with the mobile network signal that it the signal completely cuts out. Meaning I can still share the screen, but not stream any content. A quick look on Google confirmed that the adapter is the cause, and cheap knock-off active MHL adapters often do this."
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I haven't used it that much yet, only to display content from the phone's SD card. I'll give it a test tonight, to see if there are any problems with network signal while using the adaptor.
TheEndHK said:
Good to hear MHL 3.0 doesn't require external power but it might be the power output on Z5c usb port is higher. Are you sure it doesn't has any problem because when I'm reading the customer reviews I found that.
"I'm usually a fan of Lindy products and have bought a lot in the past, but this adapter has a critical flaw and I'm appalled that they have decided to sell it anyway. When connected to either my Xperia Z1 or Z5 it creates so much interference with the mobile network signal that it the signal completely cuts out. Meaning I can still share the screen, but not stream any content. A quick look on Google confirmed that the adapter is the cause, and cheap knock-off active MHL adapters often do this."
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3G and WiFi works fine with Lindy MHL adaptor, just tested it